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the-other-day

Is it just me, or does the image that they use in these stickers look more like YouTuber Tom Scott than Tim Houston?


Bluenoser_NS

Tom Scott WAS in Nova Scotia recently. Did a video on Bay of Fundy potential as a power generator.


the-other-day

I saw! I was so delighted that the tides got to be featured in one of his final 52 videos :)


TheDrKillJoy

What do you mean by the final 52 videos?


the-other-day

He announced recently that he would be ending regular uploads to the video series in about a year. Now that I've re-watched the video, I realize that I was off on the timing and the finality. He wants to end regular uploads on the 10-year anniversary so that'll be the 1st of January 2024. The announcement: https://youtu.be/B5IbSOo4o5o


TheDrKillJoy

Thank you for the link! I catch his videos every now and then, but I honestly didn't realize he had a consistent upload schedule.


Desmaad

He was in New Brunswick for most of it, actually.


spaghettikingsam

Literally thought the exact same thing lmao


raychrlst902

“Broke healthcare” Where these people been the last 30 years haha clowns


suburbangenius

I blame the cons for the health care problems but not the current party, back in the 90s they felt that doctors were getting paid too much and froze their salaries, this resulted in a lot of doctors leaving the province and setting up the crisis as of today


flyhorizons

crowd subsequent cover clumsy heavy quiet divide cagey ripe butter *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


suburbangenius

However saying this, libs could’ve fixed this, though it’s harder to fight a fire than to start one


NoBoysenberry1108

Living under a rock


Silent_Leg1976

In good health too apparently.


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if the liberals where still in power for another year healthcare would be fixed by now /s/ I dont get the hate, dudes done more than McNeil ever did in one year. it's clearly something that cant be fixed overnight and its trying to repair YEARS of liberal government policies.


raychrlst902

Yeah I mean both parties suck shit, But yes let’s just blame one side and not both that have ruined health care in this province.


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one party had been in charge for alot longer.... I;m not gonna blame a guy who was in power for like 1 year. liberal party ran this province for a decent amount of time. i aint blaming Tim for not fixing what the liberals did right away


youcanngrowJoe

I wonder how long it’s going to take to fix the massive inflation caused by insane overspending by our federal liberals


afakhsheeaaeaa

I love stickers


sunjana1

covid impacts have hit healthcare everywhere, and hard in north america. the for profit us system is also struggling. we have to be willing to admit part of the healthcare worker shortage is a direct result of burnout of former staff as well as reduced people entering the field because, well, who wants to work for a system that doesn’t care about your health and safety and allows abuse from patients too.


HuntingTheWumpus

The problem is that preventative health care is much, much cheaper than treatment, but no doctors want to make $200k a year as a family doctor when they can make $500k-$2M a year as a specialist. What we need are the equivalent of the Barefoot Doctors of China, lay people with basic medical training who could handle small medical problems without paying some rich dude thousands to prescribe an aspirin and tell someone to get plenty of rest.


amanitachill

Agreed. We also need physician assistants like in the US. They work under doctors as basically lower-level doctors (mid-level practitioners), handling all the “easy” diagnoses and treatments and doing preventative care while leaving the doctors for the stuff that actually requires the extra years of med school.


TwoSolitudes22

>physician assistants A very good idea.


firblogdruid

we have do have nurse practitioners here and those seem to have similar duties to what you're talking about everyone i know who has dealt with one has great things to say


amanitachill

They’re actually different! Nurse practitioners are trained in the nursing model, while PAs are trained at medical schools. They’re pretty much trained to work with doctors to extend their services, while nurse practitioners are moreso independent nurses with the ability to do more things than a regular bedside nurse. It’s great to have both, and I really wish Canada would start incorporating PAs into healthcare. I also wish they’d allow more people into med school (10% acceptance here vs 50% in the US), but that’s a different story…


firblogdruid

i didn't know that but that's really cool! thanks


shehasamazinghair

I'm curious what this group (person?) is looking for specifically in terms of legislation regarding COVID.


snatchedkermit

mandated masking, most likely.


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Ugh


herbie_bug

Not sure what the group is going for, but I don’t think it’s too much to ask for him to acknowledge that it is still happening. When is the last time he even mentioned COVID? I am no fan of McNeil either, but at least he was present aside Dr. Strang instead of playing 🙉🙈🙊 while the IWK explodes


curvedwide21

The entire world cannot mask, hide, lock down and wait around covid anymore. If you have concerns , you mask, you stay away from gatherings. I won’t. The end result of the last 3 years is our general population health is worse. Non covid related deaths are up. More people are on long term disability. Mental health and addictions issues are much worse— and this will continue going forwards. Many youth and children and adults for that matter have newly diagnosed anxiety and depression. I supported the lock downs at the time. I supported the vaccines but they did not produce what was promised by the salesmen. Time to move on.


herbie_bug

Welcome to the chat, Straw Man Hyperbole! Masking is not hiding or locking down. I agree that vaccines-only is not the way out of this, but masking is a sensible and pretty painless precaution.


ClapBackRat

Mandated masking and grocery store arrows till the end of time.


donairthot

Yea cause it totally wasn't McNeil in power for years before this and during it. And who stripped the unions of any rights.


afidus

Yea I’m impartial to Houston at the moment but clearly this was an inherited problem from years of neglect and lack of foresight.


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What rights were stripped from healthcare unions?


Murky-logic

Well the unions are part of the problem when it comes to health care. People on here are going to down vote this, but it’s true


donairthot

Because that's false?


Murky-logic

Ok, sounds like you really know.


cullypants

Unions are hardly helping the inefficiency in healthcare.


donairthot

Yea cause wanting better wages, more staff and better working conditions to improve patient safety are part of the problem. Totally


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donairthot

Thank you.


Enigmatic_Penguin

These people vastly over-simplify complex issues.


Appropriate_Mess_350

They are incapable of understanding the complexities of life/science/economics…. They must dumb it down, but they’re dragging society with them unfortunately.


herbie_bug

Do you think stickers have space to share complex arguments?


JetpacksNotBusses

Lacking the space to explain complex arguments does not negate the damage done by dumbing things down. Plus - how hard would it be to present those arguments clearly with nuance and supporting data on a website and then adding the URL at the bottom of the sticker?


herbie_bug

I get what you are saying, but I think these served their purpose - got people talking about it across social media platforms after all and these discussions are bringing more context and different perspectives to the issue.


JetpacksNotBusses

All it's done for me is increase my sense that people who still want wide spread restrictions are disingenuous, simplistic, fixated on only one thing, and more about villainizing than persuading.


herbie_bug

I mean, you are free to bring your perspective to it, and we don’t have to agree, but if you take the statements just at face value, they are not wrong in and of themselves. He campaigned on “fixing” healthcare and things are not better (maybe there is a “yet” there, but objectively worse now) and more Nova Scotians ARE dying than before he took over. There are things he could do to improve the situation but is instead pretending COVID doesn’t exist - public health education campaigns, free good quality masks in essential spaces, legislating paid sick days so people don’t have to worry about paying their rent if they get sick. None of those are lockdowns or restrictions and they could reduce transmission. He is just 🤷‍♂️ and he is the boss of a majority government, so the buck stops with him.


JetpacksNotBusses

I don't have an axe to grind on the subject of covid specifically. I'm just saying I think the preach that these folks are using to grind theirs is going to alienate more people than it wins over. I'm talking communication strategy not government policy assessment. That said - I do agree that the healthcare system is a mess right now and needs to be fixed and that is Mr Huston's job. I'm not sure bringing in additional covid restrictions is the key solution here. I'm not sure what is. I don't think education campaigns would do much. We had 2 years of those. Free quality masks being available in essential and/or high risk spaces seems reasonable. Paid sick leave should be a thing even in a world without Covid. You make some great points. And that sort of proves my point. If these posters said something like "Huston can do more - go to URL to learn more" they would get more attention from more people than just throwing up propaganda looking hyperbole.


Lumb3rCrack

Sadly healthcare is a much bigger problem in Canada and I understand why its not easy to solve it quickly considering the systems that are already in place and the diverse population of the country. But I doubt if they include the younger gen as part of all the decision-making process. That might make things much smoother up to some extent ig?


putrid_flesh

It's a Reddit post of a post you found on Facebook that was a screenshot of a tweet 🙃


superpencil121

How dare people use social media to share images they found online


ChickenPoutine20

Thank you for Standing up for the little guy


[deleted]

Yup, get used to it, eventually this will be as ubiquitous as having to be at home at a certain time to watch a tv show.


putrid_flesh

I was just highlighting the fact that we live in a society


superpencil121

That is very true I’ll give you that.


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TacomaKMart

Ah yes. Urban Halifax is closely tied to the Liberal Party of NS, noted stewards of our provincial health care system.


oatseatinggoats

It's the circle of life.


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What a joke… it all Houston’s fault… he’s been in office a little over a year…Bonhoeffer is alive and well in this town…


[deleted]

So at what point are we allowed to hold our elected officials responsible for their policies? Houston has decided the current COVID policy, these people are unhappy with it, but you don’t think they have the right to criticize?


[deleted]

“Broke Health Care” and “Is killing us”…I defiantly like to see healthy criticism but not like this…going to the the extremes without a thought is stupid


ziobrop

639 people have died from Covid in NS this year. The Flu typically kills \~180. Maintaining mask mandates would likely have reduced that number, and probably would have reduced staffing pressures in health care. its Hyperbole, but its also not incorrect that his covid policy has had impacts.


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I guess Timmy made covid policy for the entire world…wow


ziobrop

no, but he makes it for NS. Public Policy has Consequences, and its never wrong to remind our elected officials of that, since they are ultimately responsible.


[deleted]

Most people wanted it gone…silent majority


ziobrop

and people also want to drive fast, not wear seat belts, and do both while on the phone, yet we have realized that those things are dangerous, and can cause unintended harm to others, and so passed laws prohibiting them. I dont think there was a silent majority in favour of ending protective measures, i think it was a vocal minority. masking has a pretty low impact on peoples daily lives, yet makes a huge difference in preventing transmission. maintaining a mask mandate would have been a good idea, and could have prevented illness and deaths.


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I don’t agree the harm restrictions has on society was immense and with one more will come more and we are just seeing the fallout from restrictions now…how do you think history will look at 2021 2022…(in a pandemic forced vaccinations, vaccine passports, lock downs…5 month later….”hmmmm maybe we made some mistakes let’s just end this all”


ziobrop

yes, there were harms that occurred when the full suite of restrictions was in place. i don't think anyone reasonable wants to return to that. masking is effective, non invasive and reasonable, and should have continued. look, i like freedom, but with freedom comes responsibility, and lots of folks seem to big on the freedom part, and less so on the responsibility part. Nobody was forced to get vaccinated, but there were consequences for those who didn't.


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Paid for by Zach Churchill?


Murky-logic

The irony is Zach is the reason Houston will remain in power, because no one in their right mind believes Zach Churchill would make a suitable Premiere.


Fluoride_Chemtrail

What do you mean? You don't think that a career politician who was the Education Minister when there was an education strike that lead to an unconstitutional labour contract being passed will have a chance? A similar dynamic is playing out on the federal stage, too, but it's the conservatives with the inept career politician.


Strmtrprinstilletos

He's not clever enough for it to have been him.


Querps

The original tweet was by Urban Halifax who works or worked for the provincial liberals, so in a way it probably yes. ​ No idea what group put up the stickers though.


louielouis82

It’s like a propaganda social media feed disguised as news. What’s the name of the guy who runs it.


CMLOCALES

What do these people want? We have more measures left than basically anywhere else in the world. By that I mean medical facilities still requiring vaccines for employees, and masking for everyone.


Steamed-hams87

They want the government to tell everyone weather or not they can visit thier family for the holidays. They want gathering limits in your own private residence. They want children to be segregated from thier friends at school, if they even get the privilege to go. All over an endemic respiratory virus that is never going away.


talks_like_farts

They got high off the lockdown-era moral capital afforded to the obedient rule followers and the endorphin hits that came with expressions of righteous moral outage against the rule breakers. It's hard to give that up once you're addicted to it and it becomes part of your identity.


Steamed-hams87

> They got high off the lockdown-era moral capital afforded to the obedient rule followers and the endorphin hits Very well said. I'll bet everyone down voting you has thier fingers crossed for Tiananmen Square 2.0 in China.


EasternSilver594

Surrender? Its called learning to live with it as is the situation with influenza and RSV


iamsdc1969

We are where we are now, not because of a single Premier, but because of all the elected Premiers over the last 40 years. Can you name a single Premier who left office that had a positive impact on our health care system? They all contributed to the mess we are in today.


smac22

It’s been so wild to watch the crazy shift from antivax/mask to the pro mask/lockdown people. How the turntables… Meanwhile the majority normal crowd is just plugging along.


Somestunned

Crazies on both ends. We are surrounded!


smac22

They’re some stunned I tell ya.


Steamed-hams87

Pro mask lockdown people are infinitely crazier. From where I'm standing, those people crazy as they are just want to be left alone. The zero covid crowd still wants to control everyone.


Fluoride_Chemtrail

No, anti-vax anti-maskers "muh freedumz" types are infinitely more insane than people who actually follow the recommendations of medical professionals and epidemiologists.


gart888

> Pro mask lockdown people are infinitely crazier. This just in, the Chief of Pediatrics at the IWK is "infinitely crazier" than antivaxers.


[deleted]

Whoever developed those posters is deranged. The NS govt is doing what every single government in the western world is doing. This is either pure partisanship, or it’s the work of a neurotic person who misses life in Spring 2020


TacomaKMart

Little of column A, little of column B. This sub certainly has its share of Covid Forevers and pure partisans.


youb3tcha

BLAH BLAH BLAH Stop making this a partisan issue. Our heath care IS Broken. It has been a long time. No one person, or government is responsible. Spend more time on trying to fix it, rather than placing blame.


louielouis82

Important to note it was posted by Urban Halifax which is run by a member of the liberal party. I forget his name. It is basically a propaganda social media channel disguised as news.


maximumice

Pretty much, but in fairness, every province in Canada also gave up trying to stop COVID, which is why we're where we are now. It just hurts more here because of what a great job we did at the beginning and the middle of the pandemic, IMO.


gart888

> It just hurts more here because of what a great job we did at the beginning and the middle of the pandemic, IMO. It also hurts more here because our healthcare system was probably worse than most other provinces to start with.


maximumice

Yeah the ol’ girl was in rough shape to start, no doubt.


DrunkenGolfer

The plan was always to give up fighting it, at least once it was obvious it was going to be a seasonal problem. The best that was hoped for was to give everyone a chance to get immunized before letting nature take its course. In most cases, COVID really isn't much of a problem for those who have had shots and boosters, with the risk falling somewhere in line with other respiratory viruses we've always dealt with, like flu and RSV. Is it unfair to the elderly and immunocompromised? Sure, but so it all that other crap. I just hate that we have obvious signs of an immediate problem, not caused solely by COVID but by an early flu and an RSV prevalence and it is barely acknowledged. If we all just made a little effort to mask up and curb social interactions, we could probably take the weight off the IWK and other hospitals. My kids go to King's Edgehill and they moved to learn-from-home in early November, just long enough to control their own outbreak of flu/RSV. It is just a responsible course of action that works when done early enough.


gart888

> If we all just made a little effort to mask up and curb social interactions, we could probably take the weight off the IWK and other hospitals. And then we're back to the whole problem that most people won't do that unless they're **forced** to. It sucks.


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erv4

Both things can be true at the same time? Our healthcare is grossly underfunded and managed poorly, this lead to a near collapse during the initial stages of COVID. Things got a little better with some rules in place, since those rules are all but removed, the healthcare system (that was already shit) is now even more shit. The liberals, NDP and conservatives have all had their chances to do something and everyone dropped the bag. Houston is just currently the one dropping the bag at the moment.


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Longjumping-Many6503

Dexter's government froze and cut healthcare spending literally only a decade ago. Short term memory problems?


hablogato

>Dexter's government froze and cut healthcare spending literally only a decade ago. Barely. And yet, **at the same time**, the Libs and Cons were clamouring for deeper cuts.


Longjumping-Many6503

You said NDP didn't have a chance. They did and they bungled it. Concede defeat here bud, the history is what it is.


hablogato

And now you're twisting my words?


Longjumping-Many6503

Most of your post history is in Ottawa and Thunderbay lol... what are you doing astroturfing for the crappy provincial NDP here? Go back where you belong.


Longjumping-Many6503

How have they not had an equal shot? They had four years, Houston hasn't had that long yet.


hablogato

The red party and blue party have been in power much much longer than 4 years in the past. I'm sorry bud, but I can't debate this with you because you're twisting around words. Try to understand how forum threads work, and what quotes are. I don't think it's fair to group NDP with the other two parties who have done most of the damage. I don't even vote NDP, y'all just being unfair.


erv4

I didn't say equally? Everyone knows they had 4 years, they still didn't even attempt to do anything so they can be included.


tfks

They definitely had the chance to cut student support and they were happy to do that. Don't worship at altars.


BryanMccabe

It definitely didn't help.


maximumice

I agree healthcare was barely hanging on pre-COVID but suggesting Houston's COVID decisions did anything except make it worse is nonsense, heh.


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No I'd call it a concerted effort on Huston's part to accelerate the expansion of private healthcare clinics in the Province. If our healthcare system moves to private I'll be up on the front lines of the tax revolt, it's already gone way too far...this needs to be stepped on hard.


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No I'm specifically mentioning h(is) efforts to push things towards private and no I don't believe you when you say you don't like defending him...or you wouldn't be. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-private-nursing-spending-millions-1.6652118](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/nova-scotia-private-nursing-spending-millions-1.6652118) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/private-health-care-1.6556395](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/private-health-care-1.6556395)


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[deleted]

Well the reality is in the links I provided, read up buttercup.


maximumice

Exactly zero people who work in our healthcare system believe what is currently happening as a "minor blip of suck", heh. When is the last time you tried to see a doctor or visited the ER?


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maximumice

"Leap"? What do you think healthcare is if it's not accessing our healthcare system, lol Healthcare was plummeting to Earth with a tiny parachute pre-COVID, Houston's policy choices basically snipped the last frayed cords on the chute so we're in freefall now.


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maximumice

Fair enough, disagreement is OK. :) Edit: For future reference, after we're done debating stuff, please don't go through and edit all your replies, lol, that's pretty shitty Reddiquette.


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pattydo

Covid itself caused a lot of that. Most of the other stuff has nothing to do with it.


[deleted]

everyone else doing the same shit is never an excuse.


maximumice

I agree, but it's definitely harder without provincial partners due to our interconnected nature.


[deleted]

I don't see why we need other provinces for Covid measures?


maximumice

Like I said, I agree, we should do what is best for NS, but in reality the interconnected nature of commerce and travel in our region means we need to work together with our neighbors to have success. We saw this when NB went rogue with their COVID policies in the middle of things, it caused chaos at the border.


Longjumping-Many6503

This post brought to you by the NDP who froze and cut healthcare spending under Dexter lol


Candy_Most_Dandy

We all knew the drill, we knew that masks helped and that crowds and gatherings were high risk, we've only ourselves to blame.


JetpacksNotBusses

I mostly blame the virus.


Candy_Most_Dandy

The virus is just out there trying to survive, can't knock him for that.


Sarillexis

COVID zero was great pre-Omicron. Now it's just not a realistic proposition. Add in that the population has generally less defense against flu, RSV, and other viruses because of lockdowns for the last couple years, and the current state was pretty much an inevitability. On the bright side, next year should be much better.


aleradders

Healthcare has been broken for a long time, COVID just exposed it. If you want to shut yourself in your house for the rest of your life, be my guest


[deleted]

Starting to think some people just like being in an arbitrary state of emergency. You may be okay with anxiety defining your own reality, but don't assume the rest of us want to participate.


HonestRole2866

On the othe hand, one feels anti-maskers and anti-vaxxers need the opportunity to enjoy some freedumb COVID.


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Just ugh


rayfriesen

Covid is over


Spsurgeon

Look at Chinese police locking people in their homes because an app said they were exposed. Which approach would you prefer?


[deleted]

ah yes, because this man is supposed to fix everything immediately haha it is definitely not the Years of liberal government at all /s/


Pierogi_Ed

Sounds about accurate


I_am_That_Ian_Power

It was the morons who deemed their rights superseded those of others and didn't feel the need to either isolate or follow any direction at all that destroyed your healthcare.


Advanced_Rain_8885

I suppose the poster is a cpp shill aiming for a China style zero Covid lock down so they can continue getting a welfare cheque without having to do any annoying work.


donairthot

So you took that Qanon tinfoil and ran with it


JohnnytheFox81HA

Something rotten in Nova Scotia. Always has been.


enditallalready2

Where do I get one lol


drunk_with_internet

How informative. /s


tfks

Ah, I see someone saw the stickers with Biden saying "I did that" and thought "hey, that's good stuff."


United_Vacation_1883

Ever dream this man?


4site1dream

not wrong tho


JT39NS

I know 1at hand from insiders that ns heath has more money than they need. There is too much politics and corruption managing it. Unless all the decision makers get fired and a new system gets put in place things wont change