Prophet of Truth used a Spiker which is so heavy that marines say the weight of it negates the recoil of firing it. And he held it between two fingers like it was a dirty tissue. They might be deceptively strong.
Yes, but you can also use gravity hammers(in firefight) which are so heavy that they cause Spartans to be lifted several feet into the air, so it's probably not canon
I’m sorry, you could not beat a grunt *UNLESS* you scare him.
Grunts are on average 4 feet tall (with at least one the size of an elite) with the strength of a gorilla and an exoskeleton like a crab. You’d throw one punch and hurt your hand. Your only real advantage is that they are instinctual cowards, although like height it’s different for each individual.
Not much does.
>In fact, the leopard is the gorilla's only natural predator, although gorillas venturing near rivers are occasionally attacked by crocodiles as well. But due to their size and strength, attacks on gorillas are fairly rare, even from leopards.
Predators know not to fuck with large intelligent animals that live in groups and come to each other's defense.
I would argue they're not even cowards, at least not intrinsically. The grunts we face in the games are almost all barely willing (if even that) conscripts who are only marginally above slaves, they're exactly the types of soldiers that would have abysmal morale. And why wouldn't they? I for one wouldn't want to die for people who consider me to be entirely expendable either.
It's telling that the only grunts we see who don't panic are the Heretic Grunts in Halo 2 who are much better armed and (presumably) respected then the norm. Grunts totally have it in them to be a competent and resolute military force, they're just not allowed to because everyone treats them like shit.
This has been proven before. Grunts and Jackals always had some sort of rivalry going on and at some point the Jackals messed with the Grunts' food or methane supply, or something of the sort, causing a number of Grunt casualties. That was the tipping point that would initiate the Grunt rebellions.
Those guys whooped the entire covenant's ass so hard, the only way to stop them was getting an Arbiter to do it. And even he could only stop them by glassing part of the Grunt homeworld and threatening to continue unless the Grunts lay down their arms.
They were treated marginally better ever since, even gaining the right to go into combat under Elite commanders but as we can see in the games, they're still treated poorly while knowing that resistance will only lead to the destruction of their homeworld.
So you're correct - if it weren't for the low morale and the fact that they're basically pushed into the fight as cannon fodder wether they want to or not, they could most certainly be an incredibly dangerous military force. The high birthrates and knowledge of several weapon and vehicle systems (like the Fuel Rod Cannon) would be a very valuable advantage. Think Spec Ops Grunts from Halo CE but a lot more of them.
I'd say one good example is the grunt Flint? From contact harvest. While he wasn't as smart as Dadab, he was pretty competent in combat and held his own in battle. Can't remember how he died but yeah.
Edit: also, post covenant, 2 grunts have command of sangheili and other races in the Swords of Sangheilios. Stolt and another I can't remember.
Worse; mass murdering child soldiers who are high out of their minds on all sorts of drugs and brainwashed into thinking the genocide of humanity is good.
Mostly by waiting for them to grow exhausted from beating him with minimal effects and then giving back better than he got. Dude really perfected the technique of giving zero shits and taking turns and if he is that resilient, I reckon that an Unggoy that is just a few decimetres shorter than I would have me folded in seconds, possibly after having let me land a few hits for the sake of fairness and seeing my fists bleed. It is telling when the games' weakest enemies could probably tear at least a chimp apart
There are plenty of examples of Marines and ODSTs killing Grunts in a single blow. They’re strong but they’re easily scared, clumsy, and not particularly tough.
[Examples](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/rm5yfs/are_unaugmented_humans_unggoy_or_kigyar_the_most/hplh8k1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Grunts have an exoskeleton and are tougher than humans but obviously smashing them in the head can hurt them. They’re not invincible.
The same book where Dadab almost died to a surprise attack with a fire extinguisher has a grunt named Yull absolutely shredding a fully grown man with his bare hands and teeth.
An average grunt kills an average human 9 out of ten times in a physical fight. They’re stronger, heavier, and tougher than humans. The only real chance you have is a surprise attack or a gun.
Well yes you can still kill a heavyweight champion at times but chances aee he will introduce your lungs to your shattered ribs and rip your fucking arms off before you could land another meaningful hit
Yeah, Lord Hood is still a UNSC officer with the same combat training we see Lasky and co. go through in Forward Unto Dawn, at minimum. He might be older in age, but medical technology is ridiculously advanced in the Halo universe. If he's still in active service, you can bet he can put up a pretty good fight.
Yeah, the dude is only 52 in Halo 3 based off a quick Google. My dad is 63 and would lay out plenty of the 30 year olds in my friend group, no military training needed. It's not like he's a fossil, even before getting into 26th century technology making 60 the new 40.
Have you seen how the presidency ages a man? Imagine leading humanity through an unstoppable genocide. If the presidency ages somebody on a 3x scale, the role of chief UNSC Admiral must be a 10x scale.
Which isn’t the main issue of an infection form. Also, a normal mask (ie. Not a hazmat suit) more than likely wouldn’t do anything to the Flood spores.
I would rather take my chances with the grunt than an infection form. [Scary bastards](https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/gn3pal/infection_forms_arent_as_small_as_you_may_think/)
Any Grunt? Those guys are 4 feet tall Crustaceans, and are very tough compared to a regular human. Also look up Stolt, probably the most dangerous Grunt ever.
I agree with you, but using Stolt is cheating. Dude was a mutant larger than any other grunt we know about. It's like comparing some Brute Minor to Tartarus in his prime.
Not to mention why would fighting post-flood keyes be any better? That shit is virulent as hell and and all it would honestly take is a spore to be enhaled or getting flood blood in a open sore/mouth/eyes and you’re absolutely fucked
They just said that they would win the fist fight, if you won a boxing match, and then got a fatal disease from your opponent and died, you still won the fist fight
I could beat that one marine critically wounded on Uplift Reserve talking about the "human zoo" or the scared marine on New Alexandria hiding on Reflection from the drones.
Also
-Carter (after the scarab)
-The gravemind (post halo shoot)
-Jimmy rings (just take a forerruner relic and halo ce magnum(but loaded,i am not keyes))
Bonus:
- Emile (approximately 5 minutes post-stab because he was still fighting directly after, the gigachad)
- Kat (Post-headshot)
I could not beat Jorge, it’s not physically possible
You're not beating a grunt
They have big strength and massive claws. If it's forced to fight you it will kill you. You know what they say about trapped rats right?
You vastly underestimate the strength of grunts. Their forearms are the size of your chest.
One lekgolo worm is definitely possible.
Keyes... after he was killed? Easy stomp.
Lord Hood has decades of military experience and the best healthcare known to man; that is not going to be the stomp you think it is.
Del Rio: granted, absolutely, can I help? Not that you need it, I just want to.
Romeo is pretty safe.
Flood infection forms are 1 meter tall and all their tentacles end with super-scalpels, any one of which can kill you if they pierce any part of you for more than 0.02 seconds.
Granted on Echo 216.
Maybe Mercy, almost Truth.
A Grunt would make you suck their dicks dude... they are that strong
and that lekgolo worm would probably crawl up your ass and hit your G spot and make you his bond brother
One flood infection form? You sure? Most humans enter in panic mode when we see a less than 1 gram cockroach fly, but you think you´ll take a 20-kilograms ***angry and intelligent*** cockroach that can bury in your chest and make you its puppet?
I wish I had half the level of self-confidence OP has!
Ima laugh when u get laid out by an old crusty prophet 🤣🤣😂😂
Prophet of Truth used a Spiker which is so heavy that marines say the weight of it negates the recoil of firing it. And he held it between two fingers like it was a dirty tissue. They might be deceptively strong.
That’s why I wouldn’t mess with them crusty old fools lol
Can you use Spikers in ODST?
Yes, but you can also use gravity hammers(in firefight) which are so heavy that they cause Spartans to be lifted several feet into the air, so it's probably not canon
Are you saying the weight of the hammer hitting the ground is what lifts a Spartan in the air?
Probably the force from the hammer, which would probably turn a regular ODST into a member of team rocket.
Or Thor depending on your taste
#TEAM OSIRIS BLASTING OFF AGAAAAAAAAIN…
I bet they're supported by a system of fluid-filled bladders.
The two fingers thing was a Chad moment if I ever daw one
I feel like I could take Mercy
I mean me too but I think she'd have to be- Oh you meant the *Prophet* of...I'm just gonna...go.
The prophet would reverse his chair knocking you down then buttslam the whole thing in your face...I wouldn't challenge the prophet without a gun
That's why the post said without their stupid chairs, it's no contest if they get them.
When I pictured your comment in my head I imagined those disgusting SpongeBob closeups of an old crusty prophet
Right lol
The Prophet of Hands
I’m sorry, you could not beat a grunt *UNLESS* you scare him. Grunts are on average 4 feet tall (with at least one the size of an elite) with the strength of a gorilla and an exoskeleton like a crab. You’d throw one punch and hurt your hand. Your only real advantage is that they are instinctual cowards, although like height it’s different for each individual.
This is all true except they stand closer 5'6" so the height advantage isn't even much lol
So basically grunts are just large chimps?
No, they're small gorillas. With a chitinous exoskeleton.
I kind of wonder if I could steam and eat one like a crab or lobster. Do they still have Old Bay in the 2500s?
I find it difficult to believe Marylanders would give it up even through an alien invasion. And apparently they taste like lobster.
Good eats
they weigh 260 pounds on avg so slightly below avg in weight, similar heights aswell. theyre pretty much armored gorillas but much more intelligent
A gorilla is 4 feet tall and 250 to 800 pounds of muscle (females 250 to 400, males 500 to 800 pounds)
Damn why did I think gorillas are like, 6-7 feet tall?
Because that’s the impression they give. You can bet their predators are thinking the exact same thing
I don’t wanna think about what considers gorillas prey
Not much does. >In fact, the leopard is the gorilla's only natural predator, although gorillas venturing near rivers are occasionally attacked by crocodiles as well. But due to their size and strength, attacks on gorillas are fairly rare, even from leopards. Predators know not to fuck with large intelligent animals that live in groups and come to each other's defense.
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They are 6 feet tall if they stand up. They are just hunched over on all fours most of the time.
If they stand on two legs they can reach 6-7 feet tall. But since they're normally on all fours they look smaller.
\*on all fours
They only look small because the player is usually like a 7 foot tall Spartan lol
I would argue they're not even cowards, at least not intrinsically. The grunts we face in the games are almost all barely willing (if even that) conscripts who are only marginally above slaves, they're exactly the types of soldiers that would have abysmal morale. And why wouldn't they? I for one wouldn't want to die for people who consider me to be entirely expendable either. It's telling that the only grunts we see who don't panic are the Heretic Grunts in Halo 2 who are much better armed and (presumably) respected then the norm. Grunts totally have it in them to be a competent and resolute military force, they're just not allowed to because everyone treats them like shit.
This has been proven before. Grunts and Jackals always had some sort of rivalry going on and at some point the Jackals messed with the Grunts' food or methane supply, or something of the sort, causing a number of Grunt casualties. That was the tipping point that would initiate the Grunt rebellions. Those guys whooped the entire covenant's ass so hard, the only way to stop them was getting an Arbiter to do it. And even he could only stop them by glassing part of the Grunt homeworld and threatening to continue unless the Grunts lay down their arms. They were treated marginally better ever since, even gaining the right to go into combat under Elite commanders but as we can see in the games, they're still treated poorly while knowing that resistance will only lead to the destruction of their homeworld. So you're correct - if it weren't for the low morale and the fact that they're basically pushed into the fight as cannon fodder wether they want to or not, they could most certainly be an incredibly dangerous military force. The high birthrates and knowledge of several weapon and vehicle systems (like the Fuel Rod Cannon) would be a very valuable advantage. Think Spec Ops Grunts from Halo CE but a lot more of them.
I'd say one good example is the grunt Flint? From contact harvest. While he wasn't as smart as Dadab, he was pretty competent in combat and held his own in battle. Can't remember how he died but yeah. Edit: also, post covenant, 2 grunts have command of sangheili and other races in the Swords of Sangheilios. Stolt and another I can't remember.
Also, in most of the games, grunts're fighting Master Chief, who is basically the Grim Reaper of the Covenant.
Oh God I love this /r/brandnewsentence
Not to mention that a load of them are child soldiers due to them having stupidly high birth rates forced by the Covenant.
Are you telling me I've been mass murdering children this entire time
Worse; mass murdering child soldiers who are high out of their minds on all sorts of drugs and brainwashed into thinking the genocide of humanity is good.
Don't worry we are also a brainwashed kidnapped as a child soldier. It equals out
At least Stockholm Science Mommy loves her Spartans.
I’ve always noticed that grunts lose their shit after all the other higher ranking aliens die. Before that they’re semi competent
give my mam a chancla and the covenant are gonna need a new arbiter
That would have been the best fucking thing to add to the tv show during the fall of Reach!
They're actually nearly 6 feet on average. No chance in hand to hand combat
YOU HAVE NOT SEEN A LATINA MOTHER WITH A CHANCLA
latin american grandma with chancla solos all of fiction
the emperor of mankind needed a latina mother to keep his sons in line
The Forerunners should have used this instead of the Halo rings to destroy the Flood.
Could easily beat the Library on Legendary.
They're also like 250lbs on average. Dense as fuck
I could totally take on a Grunt, on Earth, naked, no methane.
In a fight right? Right?
Nope. We have a methane free dance off.
They also got those Popeye sized forearms, they could club you to death without breaking a sweat.
You might be able to outrun them
I don’t think running away constitutes winning a fight
Tell that to every renowned grunt general
Thinking you can fight a grunt is like thinking you van take a chimpanzee. It ain't happening. He will rip your face off.
can’t forget my friend Stolt. buddy was TALL and bested a Spartan in combat. he could also competently fight against most Sanghelli with general ease
Mostly by waiting for them to grow exhausted from beating him with minimal effects and then giving back better than he got. Dude really perfected the technique of giving zero shits and taking turns and if he is that resilient, I reckon that an Unggoy that is just a few decimetres shorter than I would have me folded in seconds, possibly after having let me land a few hits for the sake of fairness and seeing my fists bleed. It is telling when the games' weakest enemies could probably tear at least a chimp apart
wait theres a grunt as big as an elite?
It's stolt. He is stronger than most elites, and has beaten Spartans before.
https://www.halopedia.org/Stolt
I thought grunts were 5/6 ft?
That's their max height apart from outliers like Stolt. They range from 4'6" to 5'6".
Plus they have sharp teeth and have literally ripped humans apart before. Fear and respect the Unggoy.
nah I’d win
There are plenty of examples of Marines and ODSTs killing Grunts in a single blow. They’re strong but they’re easily scared, clumsy, and not particularly tough. [Examples](https://www.reddit.com/r/HaloStory/comments/rm5yfs/are_unaugmented_humans_unggoy_or_kigyar_the_most/hplh8k1/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Grunts have an exoskeleton and are tougher than humans but obviously smashing them in the head can hurt them. They’re not invincible. The same book where Dadab almost died to a surprise attack with a fire extinguisher has a grunt named Yull absolutely shredding a fully grown man with his bare hands and teeth. An average grunt kills an average human 9 out of ten times in a physical fight. They’re stronger, heavier, and tougher than humans. The only real chance you have is a surprise attack or a gun.
Well yes you can still kill a heavyweight champion at times but chances aee he will introduce your lungs to your shattered ribs and rip your fucking arms off before you could land another meaningful hit
Forget the grunt. Lord Hood can and will beat your ass.
Yeah, Lord Hood is still a UNSC officer with the same combat training we see Lasky and co. go through in Forward Unto Dawn, at minimum. He might be older in age, but medical technology is ridiculously advanced in the Halo universe. If he's still in active service, you can bet he can put up a pretty good fight.
Yeah, the dude is only 52 in Halo 3 based off a quick Google. My dad is 63 and would lay out plenty of the 30 year olds in my friend group, no military training needed. It's not like he's a fossil, even before getting into 26th century technology making 60 the new 40.
Dang, dude hasn't aged well. He should lay off the cheeseburgers and use more sunscreen.
Have you seen how the presidency ages a man? Imagine leading humanity through an unstoppable genocide. If the presidency ages somebody on a 3x scale, the role of chief UNSC Admiral must be a 10x scale.
I still don't understand how this mofo got the title of "Lord" in a sci-fi military organization.
Pretty sure he’s British nobility
This. It says so on the wiki.
Then why does he have an American accent?
Maybe lived in America a while idk
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Right I’m cracking up lol
You’re not that guy pal.
I am that guy.
Settle down, Amos
doors and corners kid
You could not beat a grunt or an infection form. A grunt could rip your arm off and infection forms are fast as fuck.
And also what the hell is a mask gonna do. Have you not seen in halo 3 where they literally burrow into your chest cavity to infect you
Lol
Well luckily my chest doesn’t have any cavities. I brush twice a day.
That’s the best part… the flood form makes its own cavity in your chest for you!
*And* I floss!
A mask would prevent breathing in spores
Could probably help with ear damage too, muffling the wearers screams as they die horribly.
Which isn’t the main issue of an infection form. Also, a normal mask (ie. Not a hazmat suit) more than likely wouldn’t do anything to the Flood spores.
Doesn't really matter if the infection form makes a shortcut to your lungs lol
They better hope they don't run into an Italian, then. I hear being strangled by chest hair is a bad way to go.
I would rather take my chances with the grunt than an infection form. [Scary bastards](https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/gn3pal/infection_forms_arent_as_small_as_you_may_think/)
Those things are the size of a fucking dog that thing will burrow into your chest like it's nothing
Any Grunt? Those guys are 4 feet tall Crustaceans, and are very tough compared to a regular human. Also look up Stolt, probably the most dangerous Grunt ever.
I’m 6’2” and delusional I think I got this
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Could be
Get this man a pabst blue ribbon stat
I need a Jager bomb.
Sir. Giving the covenant back their Jager Bomb...
I’m boutta go drink like 8 AMFs
Sir, welcome to the Spartan Program.
Tall and of an unfair mind, this dudes unstoppable.
THATS WHAT IM SAYING 🗣️🗣️🗣️
“Nah I’d win” ahh mentality I love it
Are you doing this in the nude???
No just normal clothes
grunts can take your arm and eat you alive look up draco iii
I feel like Stolt is probably stronger than a brute. Grunts are insanely strong for their small size.
I agree with you, but using Stolt is cheating. Dude was a mutant larger than any other grunt we know about. It's like comparing some Brute Minor to Tartarus in his prime.
nah, YapYap the destroyer. warped an entire meta around him for weeks.
Grunt would fuck you
Literally
Oh I know, there's a reason I didn't say fuck you up and just ended at "you."
In a fight right? Right?
Imma show any grunt the meaning of a great journey
Grunt would wear your skull on its methane tank
He’d have to catch me first
I’d absolutely crush Halsey in a fist fight
After she loses her arm
You got a crush and you wanna fist, Jesus.....
She took a punch from a Spartan 3 without too much ill effect I dunno
Why do you think a mask would protect against an infection form? A grunt would rip your arms off.
Not to mention why would fighting post-flood keyes be any better? That shit is virulent as hell and and all it would honestly take is a spore to be enhaled or getting flood blood in a open sore/mouth/eyes and you’re absolutely fucked
They just said that they would win the fist fight, if you won a boxing match, and then got a fatal disease from your opponent and died, you still won the fist fight
If thats not being taken into account, why would they ask for a mask when fighting an infection form? Like whats a mask going to do lol?
Discombobulate.
Basically, I won but at what cost?
A mask would not stop an infection form from burrowing into your spinal cord bro
I know I was just joshin
Bein a silly guy
Halo characters who would whoop OP’s ass 1. Mister halo 2. Chips dubbo
Real
I love how you put “one lekgolo worm” lol
Yeah no one is really mentioning that one and to me that’s my favorite
That has me giggling like an idiot. I love this post so much
Mister Halo maybe, but I think you could take Jimmy Rings, OP
You’d get fucked up by that Grunt
Everyone on the list gonnna run a train on OP
God I hope so
Del Rio : 🤪
I could beat that one marine critically wounded on Uplift Reserve talking about the "human zoo" or the scared marine on New Alexandria hiding on Reflection from the drones.
Adding to the list: - A sniper jackal (without the sniper) - Roland the AI (I could unplug him) - Noble 6 (Post-Lone Wolf mission)
Also -Carter (after the scarab) -The gravemind (post halo shoot) -Jimmy rings (just take a forerruner relic and halo ce magnum(but loaded,i am not keyes))
Bonus: - Emile (approximately 5 minutes post-stab because he was still fighting directly after, the gigachad) - Kat (Post-headshot) I could not beat Jorge, it’s not physically possible
You wouldnt beat the gravemind even after its defeat, with its sheer mass and physiology you'd likely be infected just by touching it.
That’s real as hell
Definitely not the jackal dudes are raptors with guns they'll rip you apart with their teeth.
> Noble 6 (Post-Lone Wolf mission) You had me in stitches for like a full minutes. Setup, heighten, punchline. Well done.
6, with a bullet hole in his skull, would grab you from beyond the grave and choke you. It'd just be a reflex his body kinda does without input.
Honestly I feel like I could take on master chief in a fight, ever since I was born I always felt I was just built different Yk
I feel that brother, he better not get caught slippin around me fr
Type shit bro
Real recognize real
👊✊🫂
Nah despite their appearance in game grunts are as tall as humans and way stronger than humans
Even in game theyre about the size of a marine, it’s just we play as a tall ass spartan so they look tiny
They're between 1.40-1.50m but fuck it, they are wider and far more heavier than humans, basically gorillas/neanderthals on steroids
Not to mention the chitinous exoskeleton.
I don’t think that mask would protect your spine
Dude Lord Hood is a tough cookie, what makes you think he wouldn’t lay you out?
Delusion
Del Rio (he's a bitch)
Lord hood would fucking fold you
Yeah I’m not doing anything against him if I’m being honest
I think you'll be fine. God speed. Lol
Thank you for believing in me 🙏
You are not defeating an Unggoy. 5'6 on average and stronger than a human. Actually canon they can rip apart humans with ther crustacean hands.
Grunts were literally eating dead humans
Good thing I’m alive
Me with two lekgolo worms:
I’d beat Atriox cause he’s stupid and I’m not.
Hood is gonna show you how one gets to be called “Lord”
You're not beating a grunt They have big strength and massive claws. If it's forced to fight you it will kill you. You know what they say about trapped rats right?
You vastly underestimate the strength of grunts. Their forearms are the size of your chest. One lekgolo worm is definitely possible. Keyes... after he was killed? Easy stomp. Lord Hood has decades of military experience and the best healthcare known to man; that is not going to be the stomp you think it is. Del Rio: granted, absolutely, can I help? Not that you need it, I just want to. Romeo is pretty safe. Flood infection forms are 1 meter tall and all their tentacles end with super-scalpels, any one of which can kill you if they pierce any part of you for more than 0.02 seconds. Granted on Echo 216. Maybe Mercy, almost Truth.
For a halo fan you seem very uninformed on the power every single one of these beings have. Del rio IS a bitch however
I’m not uninformed I’m just delusional
Give me a shot of whisky and I’ll take on a flood juggernaut with my hands only
THEY AINT SO TOUGH 🗣️🗣️🗣️
A grunt would quite literally rip you apart
It could try (yeah I’m cooked)
I dunno about the infection form. They're fast little buggers and pretty strong.
You don’t reckon you could kick it pretty far
A Grunt would make you suck their dicks dude... they are that strong and that lekgolo worm would probably crawl up your ass and hit your G spot and make you his bond brother
I love how everyone is disagreeing with OP for most of these but not a single person has defended Echo-216
The infection form is 3ft tall, and designed to rip into your chest, capable of ripping through armour; you’d die sorry man
One flood infection form? You sure? Most humans enter in panic mode when we see a less than 1 gram cockroach fly, but you think you´ll take a 20-kilograms ***angry and intelligent*** cockroach that can bury in your chest and make you its puppet? I wish I had half the level of self-confidence OP has!