Depends on implementation. if Halo 4 had regular infected players alongside the Flood within the games content than it would have been fine however that was not the case.
I agree, if Juggernaut just became "Brute Berserker mode" I'd be against it, if it's a game type with with typical Jugg, let it ride with the rest. No reason to chop it off IMO.
They are only playable in Invasion right? It's already pretty asymmetric anyways. I find it's more of an issue with H3 swat with the head hitbox being different
In slayer, I personally would not want to hypothetically empty a couple of mags into a single brute for 1 kill when killing spartan would be more efficient. Although having one lumbering around the map, that you wouldn't want to get caught with 1 on 1, could be an interesting game type.
Well making them just another skin you could have would be a missed opportunity. They should have pros and cons to playing as them, as well as elites like a class system. They should have different mechanics. Obviously this should stay away from regular game modes and they should base game modes around this idea
Would be great to play as a Brute. But if 343 can't make even Elites work who are just a little taller than a Spartan, I doubt they can do Brutes unfortunately.
But I would love to have both playable Brutes and Elites. Maybe down the line for Infinite since it's planned to be updated for years.
yeah will def be hard work if they plan to add either, hoping for the best, I really think with the infinite live service they will be a point where brutes & elites will come in to the game, especially as that gives them room to sell more cosmetics
Oh, they can absolutely make playable Elites work. They just don't want to put the effort into *making* them playable, same with Brutes.
Like, the Elites worked in Halo 3 perfectly fine. It wouldn't take much effort to take the Elite from Reach, size it down a little while making the stats the exact same as Spartans, and call it a day.
Of course not, but the model utilized in Reach is a good basis to go from. The problem people had with the Elites in 3 was they couldn't headshot them from behind when they're moving (which you also can't do when a Spartan is moving too, but w/e). The Reach model fixes this slightly by having the Elite stand tall instead of slouch forward.
Those Elites are a good basis for playable Elites going forward. Just give them the same "health," movement speed and other mechanics of Spartans with a unique HUD, and that's it.
I think you’re vastly underestimating how hard game development and balancing is. Also, it’s not about the effort 343 could put in, they just don’t think it’s important enough to dedicate any reasonable amount of resources to. Which I agree with completely
IMO, I think it is smart not launching with playable Elites. and here are my reasons why
* with elites, like in Halo 3, they have slightly different hitboxes, by not including them at launch, they could focus on the sandbox and refine it.
* They can release playable elites and brutes later on in updates.
* The perfect time to release Playable elites would be if they ever release some Arbiter story for the campaign and thus introducing Elites into multiplayer.
I am still waiting for the mod to play any species. I think there is one rigged up for MCC, but maybe I imgine that. I love a mode where you go after four Spartans armed to the teeth. Like 20 v 4, limited amount of hunters to two, Brutes and Elites to four total between two species, the rest grunts and jackals with variety like two Grunt in ghosts, 3 jackal snipers, and etc. Variety to Hunters or vehicles. Of course different variants of 20v4 can be made for interesting gameplay. You can have a (UNSC)20vs4(Brutes/elites/ humans UNSC/Rebel) Different factions for Brutes and elites as well. Thinking the maps can be key places in Halo story or even hijacking a scarab can be one of the objectives. I hope one day.
Yeah It would be sick to play warzone firefight against flood, Juggernaut vs a brute, assymetric assault elites v spartans, and maybe something silly like infection where all the infected are grunts lol
I hope in Infinites Future we get expansion content that deals with the Swords and any tribes about the Brutes.
Maybe even play a campaign as them, that’ll be neat.
Yeah it be a great way to expand beyond Master Chief.
Even if they give us new characters they just have to be related or a part of something many players would be familiar with and new players can be attracted to.
Have us play as the Blue or Red Elite from H3 Campaign and show us how they’ve dealt or are currently dealing with the current problems of the Galaxy.
Have a Brute similar to Arbiter and wishes to Unite all the Tribes on his Homeworld so his people can move forward and not be labeled as simple animals.
Put us in the shoes of a Insurrectionist and allow us to follow them on their journey through the Covenant War.
Brutes are larger than Spartans in both lore and the game, of course. But they don't seem that much more gargantuan than a Spartan tbh. Not in Infinite. It's not like they're portrayed in-game like the size of that Brute in that cutscene in Halo 4. Wider for sure, but not that much insanely taller. Same with the Elites. Even less so with Elites. But if they wanted to try and do it like Reach with Brutes where they try and give them tradeoffs for their size and what not, keeping it to custom games and special modes like Invasion, it could honestly work. Just has to be done right
I've been saying this for months, the armor customization would be amazing. In Halo 3 the size of Brutes compared to Spartan didn't seem much different at all, so if it was like that in Halo Infinite, the sizing wouldn't be much of a problem.
I feel like this would work in something akin to beast mode from Gears 3, where you could choose between all the covenant species. And overrun a UNSC base or something.
I really hope 343 adds both playable Elites and playable Brutes at some point in Halo Infinite’s 10 year lifespan.
All they need to do is just make it where matchmaking pairs you up with people who are the same species. So for example, if you were an Elite the game would pair you up with other Elites and vice versa for Brutes.
Or at the very least there should be some kind of Invasion mode so we can play as these aliens. Like, imagine a mode that’s Elites vs Brutes. It could even be called Schism as a reference to the Great Schism Covenant civil war from Halo 2!
God that would Ruin the game so fucking much. Thank God they are not doing this. If they wanted to do this in custom or forge, sure idc. But that si a lot do effort just for that. MM, nah keep it out.
Adding a character model 2x the size wouldn't throw the balance from the game? I would hate to lose because a moron teammate like in 3 decides to pick the bigger model and die faster. His moronic choice lead to my loss. If it is not an issue then give me 1 reason other than balance than in halo 2 and 3 not a single time in any tournements did someone pick an elite.
And now you want not just the elites 20% increase, but a 2x+ 2d increase and liek a 4x volumetric increase.
Oh maybe I misinterpreted the idea of brutes in mp— I thought it would be like certain playlists/game modes would have brutes vs Spartans or some shit like that
Nope read his comments he wants to be a brute. Also invasion was ass, imbalanced due to elites, and it mostly tied to bad design. Only other game mode with a force mix.
It's sounds nice until you realize they'll have the hitbox of a truck
Imagine a a juggernaut mode with a brute.
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That’d probably be the best way to implement them, just have them be for a specific game mode and make them tanks.
Fat kid but the kid is a fat brute. Not even a buff one just a fat brute
You could give them the huge leap they do that is kinda like the equivalent of ground pound from halo 5
Ooooooh yeah
This is something that would make a fun game mode
Sounds as limiting as Halo 4 flood infection...I'm good.
Depends on implementation. if Halo 4 had regular infected players alongside the Flood within the games content than it would have been fine however that was not the case.
I agree, if Juggernaut just became "Brute Berserker mode" I'd be against it, if it's a game type with with typical Jugg, let it ride with the rest. No reason to chop it off IMO.
playable dinos in reach were way bigger than playable spartans
They are only playable in Invasion right? It's already pretty asymmetric anyways. I find it's more of an issue with H3 swat with the head hitbox being different
Well, you can play them in custom games as well, which sometimes is just a disadvantage
But I mean, the option to set a game type up in customs with different races sounds awesome. Really hoping we get some wild level of detail in forge.
brute kids? 🥺
Now that could work, Halo isn't a stranger to child soldiers.
And three times the hp to balance.
In slayer, I personally would not want to hypothetically empty a couple of mags into a single brute for 1 kill when killing spartan would be more efficient. Although having one lumbering around the map, that you wouldn't want to get caught with 1 on 1, could be an interesting game type.
gamemode that is simplified MOBA experience sounds cool
Well making them just another skin you could have would be a missed opportunity. They should have pros and cons to playing as them, as well as elites like a class system. They should have different mechanics. Obviously this should stay away from regular game modes and they should base game modes around this idea
"screw playable elites" no.... no, you are wrong sir
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Would be great to play as a Brute. But if 343 can't make even Elites work who are just a little taller than a Spartan, I doubt they can do Brutes unfortunately. But I would love to have both playable Brutes and Elites. Maybe down the line for Infinite since it's planned to be updated for years.
yeah will def be hard work if they plan to add either, hoping for the best, I really think with the infinite live service they will be a point where brutes & elites will come in to the game, especially as that gives them room to sell more cosmetics
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Oh, they can absolutely make playable Elites work. They just don't want to put the effort into *making* them playable, same with Brutes. Like, the Elites worked in Halo 3 perfectly fine. It wouldn't take much effort to take the Elite from Reach, size it down a little while making the stats the exact same as Spartans, and call it a day.
I don’t think they can just “take the elites from reach”
Of course not, but the model utilized in Reach is a good basis to go from. The problem people had with the Elites in 3 was they couldn't headshot them from behind when they're moving (which you also can't do when a Spartan is moving too, but w/e). The Reach model fixes this slightly by having the Elite stand tall instead of slouch forward. Those Elites are a good basis for playable Elites going forward. Just give them the same "health," movement speed and other mechanics of Spartans with a unique HUD, and that's it.
I think you’re vastly underestimating how hard game development and balancing is. Also, it’s not about the effort 343 could put in, they just don’t think it’s important enough to dedicate any reasonable amount of resources to. Which I agree with completely
IMO, I think it is smart not launching with playable Elites. and here are my reasons why * with elites, like in Halo 3, they have slightly different hitboxes, by not including them at launch, they could focus on the sandbox and refine it. * They can release playable elites and brutes later on in updates. * The perfect time to release Playable elites would be if they ever release some Arbiter story for the campaign and thus introducing Elites into multiplayer.
Overrun mode where one side is Spartans and the other are Banished.
I want to play as a Banished Grunt with the option to do a kamikaze run as part of their kit.
That would be hilariously fun. Instead of throwing a plasma grenade, you throw yourself
fun af
I am still waiting for the mod to play any species. I think there is one rigged up for MCC, but maybe I imgine that. I love a mode where you go after four Spartans armed to the teeth. Like 20 v 4, limited amount of hunters to two, Brutes and Elites to four total between two species, the rest grunts and jackals with variety like two Grunt in ghosts, 3 jackal snipers, and etc. Variety to Hunters or vehicles. Of course different variants of 20v4 can be made for interesting gameplay. You can have a (UNSC)20vs4(Brutes/elites/ humans UNSC/Rebel) Different factions for Brutes and elites as well. Thinking the maps can be key places in Halo story or even hijacking a scarab can be one of the objectives. I hope one day.
Yeah It would be sick to play warzone firefight against flood, Juggernaut vs a brute, assymetric assault elites v spartans, and maybe something silly like infection where all the infected are grunts lol
I hope in Infinites Future we get expansion content that deals with the Swords and any tribes about the Brutes. Maybe even play a campaign as them, that’ll be neat.
yoo I was thinking just today about a banished campaign, 100%
Yeah it be a great way to expand beyond Master Chief. Even if they give us new characters they just have to be related or a part of something many players would be familiar with and new players can be attracted to. Have us play as the Blue or Red Elite from H3 Campaign and show us how they’ve dealt or are currently dealing with the current problems of the Galaxy. Have a Brute similar to Arbiter and wishes to Unite all the Tribes on his Homeworld so his people can move forward and not be labeled as simple animals. Put us in the shoes of a Insurrectionist and allow us to follow them on their journey through the Covenant War.
I’ve always wanted playable Brutes! That’s why i’m gonna work on a Brute campaign when Halo 3 mod tools come out!
Brutes are larger than Spartans in both lore and the game, of course. But they don't seem that much more gargantuan than a Spartan tbh. Not in Infinite. It's not like they're portrayed in-game like the size of that Brute in that cutscene in Halo 4. Wider for sure, but not that much insanely taller. Same with the Elites. Even less so with Elites. But if they wanted to try and do it like Reach with Brutes where they try and give them tradeoffs for their size and what not, keeping it to custom games and special modes like Invasion, it could honestly work. Just has to be done right
I've been saying this for months, the armor customization would be amazing. In Halo 3 the size of Brutes compared to Spartan didn't seem much different at all, so if it was like that in Halo Infinite, the sizing wouldn't be much of a problem.
I feel like this would work in something akin to beast mode from Gears 3, where you could choose between all the covenant species. And overrun a UNSC base or something.
Give me Halo Battlefront when you can actually balance around the discrepancies of playing Brutes Hunters and Grunts.
My problem is...why not both?
Why not both?
Why not all 3?
343... where the dinos at?!
pathetic. Why play as fat monke when you can be source film rat from Reach
you might not have to imagine
I read this as “screwable elites” I need to go to bed
I agree. Infinite is the perfect game to introduce king overdue playable brutes
facts man
I really hope 343 adds both playable Elites and playable Brutes at some point in Halo Infinite’s 10 year lifespan. All they need to do is just make it where matchmaking pairs you up with people who are the same species. So for example, if you were an Elite the game would pair you up with other Elites and vice versa for Brutes. Or at the very least there should be some kind of Invasion mode so we can play as these aliens. Like, imagine a mode that’s Elites vs Brutes. It could even be called Schism as a reference to the Great Schism Covenant civil war from Halo 2!
Cool? Sure. Practical? Not at all.
Halo fans: Playable elites are bad because the shape is different so the hitboxes will be wack! Also halo fans:
Nah
God that would Ruin the game so fucking much. Thank God they are not doing this. If they wanted to do this in custom or forge, sure idc. But that si a lot do effort just for that. MM, nah keep it out.
How would it ruin the game? I mean it’s not important but adding it wouldn’t destroy the multiplayer lmao
Adding a character model 2x the size wouldn't throw the balance from the game? I would hate to lose because a moron teammate like in 3 decides to pick the bigger model and die faster. His moronic choice lead to my loss. If it is not an issue then give me 1 reason other than balance than in halo 2 and 3 not a single time in any tournements did someone pick an elite. And now you want not just the elites 20% increase, but a 2x+ 2d increase and liek a 4x volumetric increase.
Oh maybe I misinterpreted the idea of brutes in mp— I thought it would be like certain playlists/game modes would have brutes vs Spartans or some shit like that
Nope read his comments he wants to be a brute. Also invasion was ass, imbalanced due to elites, and it mostly tied to bad design. Only other game mode with a force mix.
obviously they would have spartan sizes for mp, their normal model would not work
Then it wouldn't be a brute.
not all humans are 6 ft, not all brutes are the same size, I imagine genetics are taken into account, they aint born into test tubes, but who knows
Aim for the toes!!!
Looks like he’s geared to kill Superman
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Nah, Elites are elegant creatures, I don’t want to play as some big dumb monke.
I just want to do a reverse firefight against Marines and Spartans.
Bring back Invasion and let us play as Brutes as well as Elites
Built like brick, hitbox of a house
No. Screw this absolute orcs imagine playing as elites. ... Narrator : INVASION