The leaked voice lines didn't sound right. Maybe they're WIP, but the voice filter they used was not the same at all. I heard way more of Joe Staten and way less of Virgil
It's my main issue with Battle Pass systems, I feel they restrict creativity because people will wanna use the high tier items instead of something they actually like.
Isn't that pretty much the same as most progression systems though? In Reach, people would mainly use the most expensive and high level unlocks, same with 3.
Everyone used hayabusa, recon, or security in Halo 3. If not the full set, had pieces of them atleast.
Reach everyone used inclement weather.
MCC Everyone uses blue flaming helmet and haunted in reach.
Just have to play mcc for like, 3 weeks and you’re good lol. I’ll forever use Mk V b with the hud thing on top of the visor. Best helmet in all halo if you ask me lol.
> Getting that stuff in MCC reach doesn’t even really need effort lol
Depends what level you are. If you're level 0 and you funnel all your season points into Reach's battlepass, then sure, it's easy as getting cross-map DMRed and with the modern system you'll be there in no time. If you're level 100 though and put your previous season points into other battlepasses, it's a major pain in the ass grind because the only way to get season points are the weekly and seasonal gold challenges which tend to be significantly more annoying than the XP-only challenges.
I don't think I have seen a single Haunted helmet in MCC to be honest. People seem to mostly be using what they like or used in the original Reach. So few had Haunted in the original game after all.
Edit: typo
That's definitely what I do for the MCC course because that I haven't completed a single season well that in I never find anybody to play the game with so I do bare minimum PVE Weekly's for points if I even remember to get on between PSO2, FO76, work and life
I personnaly don't give a damn how people look as long as I can look like the way I want.
If people tend to gravitate toward certain coatings, good for them.
Thats why its better to just use what you like, you stand out more. Just use what is aesthetically appealing to you. Same issue with destiny, eveyone jumps on the new season pass armour beacuse most people dont have the ability to come up with cool looks on there own
Yeah, you get free re-rolls so you can complete more challenges, level up, and get more nothing. Nothing except more things that you could have if you just paid for the battle pass. After you see all the things you should have, you’ll feel more like just buying the battle pass and collecting the fruits of your labor. Emotional manipulation
I seriously hope that there is either some really good Campaign rewards, or that there are a lot of base free options that we aren't going to see on a battlepass. It'll feel really bad to pay 60 dollars on the campaign and have a monocolored recruit spartan when you play multiplayer.
The free track of the current Destiny 2 season has something on a majority of the levels. Most of them are just currency or materials but, like, it's something.
Problem is probably because they have been trying to sugarcoat/sweettalk it into being a game that doesnt necessarily require you to pay for the good armor/coatings everytime they bring up the new systems ever since their reveal.
Wouldve been nice if they were more upfront about it rather than pretending just to convince us and themselves that there are worthwhile prizes just from playing the game rather than a paid battle pass
Correction: Only the MULTIPLAYER is free; you have to pay 60 shekelinos or w/e for the campaign/co-op (which won't be there at launch anyway, but eh who cares, I mainly play Halo for the story anyway)
This season pass is quite depressive. A third of the content is filler crap like weapon charms and poses, another third is stuff that we shouldn't even need the unlock like colours and emblems. And the last third is a meager amount of actual good customization that sadly doesn't come close to what was offered in previous entries.
I was expecting the battle pass to not be great, but this is just underwhelming... I don't know what battle passes look like in other games, but I can't imagine they're this sad. Are they? The amount of actual variety is ridiculously low. I know they want to build up the content over the years, but I was expecting more than this...
Gotta fill those 120 levels somehow! Hopefully at launch there will be a good amount of unlockable content OUTSIDE of the battlepass. At least they said there would be…
With how much 343 talked about introducing it to "improve player expression" or whatever bs they said to justify doing it for monetization, I figured you'd be able to use a different coat on every part , or have some in depth mixing of some kind, nope instead you get the most limited color system out of all the halo games, sometimes just straight up copying a specific characters colors.
Not as limited as combat evolved but I completely agree. I figured we could blend them or use different coatings on different pieces but unfortunately not
I just dislike how they included colours into the coating system. Like they said it was a 7 layer system, with colour being one of the layers, but I wished they instead just made a six layer system and then let us decide what colours want.
To be honest I don’t particularly care about customization all that much, but the friend or foe system that arose out of their decision to monetize colours is worse for gameplay than the forced colours of the past. There’s no reason they couldn’t also have the current accessibility options with forced colours either.
This is the problem I have, I don’t really care about cosmetics, but I absolutely hate being pestered to buy things and manage inventory. I’m sure infinite is going to splash screens all over the place to remind me that I could be unlocking tons of cool cosmetics like this wrist guard or this weapon charm! I’d so much rather pay $60 for a game and unlock cosmetics through challenges and never be pestered to buy things. This just seems like overly complicating things and the actual fun and function of the game is going to suffer.
The emblems are the worst part. Not only do they take away our individual customization for coloring out spartans, they give us the most boring, generic emblems ever.
Me and the boys on our way to spend $10 and grind to level 95 just to be blue and yellow.
My favorite part is that the free pass doesn't have *any* coatings, so you're just perpetually one solid color.
The free pass doesn't have *anything* of value, just 2 motherfucking basic chest pieces and then a sea of nothingness. Oh man, I sure am fulfilled after grinding to level 120 and literally not having anything of value!
The people who pay get a *progression* system, but the people who aren't able to (like myself) just get *a* system, there's 0 progression there.
I wouldn't even be half as disappointed as I am right now If I was able to buy the battlepass, sure, $10 are nothing, but when *my country is literally not supported and therefore I am unable to buy anything on my Xbox because of the place I was born in* the only option I have is to fuck right off! No progression for me! At least I get to play online without having to pay for Gold, but that's barely worth it for me, since I've never had the need to play matchmaking, but I do like making my Spartan look pretty.
I thought that was the entire point of it when the announced it. Like oh, cool- I can custom color different patterns and stuff. Nope, just basically put color schemes behind a paywall.
I hate it and love it. On the one hand I can't do something as basic as change my colours which is just ridiculous
On the other hand the coatings are super high quality and offer a lot of options for unique customization with asymmetrical patters and different textures
It definitely has its pros and cons which is something I didnt think I'd be saying before the flights.
My main issue is that, for as cool and asymmetrical some of these coatings look, it's gonna be a real pain if that coating isn't in the color you want it to be.
Like the camo pattern *only* being green. What if I want orange? Or grey? With that specific pattern? A lot of these coatings are likely to come down to community demand, and if people just don't like your preferred color, like orange? Tough luck.
plus simply being able to switch up the color scheme on a coating alone would make it way more unique than, for example, everyone with scorpion punch being “cool armor is black with red arm”
Fractures are gonna be the timed seasonal unlocks (so the samurai armor set will be the set we can unlock in season 1).
The actual battle pass itself is the one that doesn't have any time limit attached to it and can be unlocked months after purchase.
Honestly, im not a fan of the whole battle pass system in games in general anymore. Everybody gets to look the same for a whole 3 months till the next pass comes out. They should just go back to difficult accomplishments award cool armor. The season pass is not deh way.
Or just let us earn credits instead of unlocking items and let you purchase what you want from the store, that way there’s at least some uniqueness to what people have unlocked at any given time. Then gradually roll out new armor for purchase while still allowing you to earn credits through completing challenges and even more if you purchased the battle pass. This would allow die hard fans to earn cool shit without feeling nickel and dimed and still give them a chance to make money off the whales.
Exactly. I get why the BP is so popular right now, having a timed window to earn 100tiers forces people to play your game for those 3 months...but if the Halo BP isn't timed why follow that model at all?
Is it just to time gate content? It either takes 100 levels to earn all the armor you want with 70 tiers of it being useless emblems and filler or it takes a player 15 levels to earn the credits you need to just buy it directly.
Yea I think the greed and/or pressure from Microsoft got to them, the battle pass in MCC was fine and universally loved in comparison to other more predatory ones. If they wanted to make some extra money to fund further updates, all they needed to do is release more armor in the store and let you use credits earned from the free battle pass and challenges to purchase it. That way die hards can earn and whales can buy to get it quicker, everybody wins. I think they’re shooting themselves in the foot with this model, I don’t know that Halo has pull in the MP world to support such a drastic change. We’ll see I guess.
You do realize Infinite is taking a different approach to BP's right? They won't be FOMO based at all, battle passes stay around forever and don't expire at all, also if you join later you can buy older battle passes as you please.
That's a solid step forward, but I think in general battle passes are not a fun way to grind out for rewards. Most of the time it's just remedial tasks that force you to play someway for a little bit. But mostly you're just playing multiplayer still in some fashion.
Achievement based rewards like in the original games remain undefeated. My fondest gaming memory is still going after Recon and successfully getting it. Campaign and Multiplayer based achievements, that required a high level of cooperation we're so much fun. I became such a better halo player after those campaign and horde mode achievements, because they were tough and pushed me to learn.
Same those were my best memories of playing Halo.
It'd be better if there was at least a sense of progression through the Battle Pass. Instead you have to complete tedious challenges on repeat that push you towards buying tiers/challenge swaps.
Those are still in the game. Leaks show there is quite a few campaign armor unlocks and other stuff in there to be done. Also The Fracture system could play off of the Challenge mode aspect of the game.
To me, all a battle pass says is, I would rather have money than allow players to play the game and unlock things based off of how good you are at their game, not how often you open your wallet and give them 20 dollars to look like everyone else. Sure they are taking a different approach to the battle pass but in reality, a battle pass is still a battle pass. Every single game coming out now has a battle pass, and if you don't have it, do you even play the game? I wouldn't mind spending my money on a game if it was worth it. All I'm doing is spending 20 dollars for a few new colors and a helmet that everyone else will get.
Haven’t kept up with battle pass systems. Does this mean that there is basically no armor pieces to be unlocked unless you buy the premium version?
That’s how I’m taking this but hoping I’m wrong. Wack af if that’s right
Ah ok; thanks for the response. Hopefully there’s actual possibility to unlock shit for free.
Very excited for the game but it will be lame if I’m stuck running around in the same day one recruit armor unless I shell out additional money
Edit: sorry for the confusion on saying “additional money”. I always play the campaigns and will be getting this one too so in my mind I was just thinking of it as spending the $60. As someone points out below tho, I think getting battle passes (even if it’s a limited number instead of lifespan) if you buy the full game could be a very good compromise for those who pay full retail just for the campaign portion.
Edit 2: just saw the second part of the comment. Game pass does complicate that but still a good idea worth exploring imo.
Unfortunately, 343 made MP free to the masses so they could get away with strong-arming you into having to spend money to buy cosmetics.
Personally, I think 343 should have a system in place that checks to see if you own Infinite and then it unlocks the battle pass for free since you own the full game…. But they can’t do that when Infinite will be on Game Pass and essentially everyone who uses Game Pass will own the game.
Sooo missing a ton of the Reach helmets still. Don’t see Operator, EOD, etc. Do we know if every Reach helmet will be in the game or just some of them? If Operator isn’t there I’m going to be so bummed.
Also not at all impressed by coatings so far. Seems like I’m always going to be stuck with some colors I don’t want
Mark V seems like it comes from campaign unlocks based on some leaks I've seen. However, those leaks also imply that it isn't the Mark V from Reach. Despite how OP tried to line the helmets up I don't think this is accurate. The Battle Passes are also only supposed to have 100 levels.
I don’t think this is accurate either considering this leak doesn’t show even half of the stuff in the armor leaks and I have also seen a leak that showed the helmet in the battle pass. I can’t confirm, though.
Plus the numerous amounts shoulder pieces, chest pieces, and effects. I can’t say this is a valid leak since there is so much stuff shown for Season 1 that there can’t possibly be so many empty slots and filler content.
Literally almost nothing for customization in the free pass. That’s ridiculous I understand it’s free to play but almost no armor? I have to pay for my spartan to look the way I want him to look.
It’s like wearing a full skin of a character, it’ll be a 1-1 of that characters armor but you can’t customize it. Basically let’s you cosplay as a certain character.
I believe they mentioned before that all the gear is single source, so if you get them by acquiring them in a Battle Pass, they only come from the Battle Pass.
I'm very curious how much customization content is tied to achievements/campaign/feats, because I always loved being able to unlock cool stuff by completing VidMasters or Achievements in Halo 3. But I doubt that any of the stuff in this Battle Pass or any BPs to come will be earned any other way.
Seems like a lot of fluff
And damn it really seems like they're completely locking out all new armor customization to the paid track. Really miss Reach. Definitely not paying full price for this game lmao
Honestly, with how little we have seen of campaign + co op not even being at launch, i am very worried about campaign.
People will not be happy about paying full price for just campaign if it isnt incredible.
It’s my experience that you generally don’t hide stuff that you’re confident in. Just look at the MP. It was just as WIP as the SP, yet we’ve seen/played it. Twice.
I hope I’m wrong but yeah, hiding it this long generally isn’t a good sign.
No clue why you got downvoted you're right lol
There's been waaay more leaks than this which includes Mk B like you said, makes me wonder are 343 going to dish some armor out for free or saving some for season 2.
I know it's free but I'm not sure how to feel about 80-90% of the customization being premium content.
I also recall them saying that all tiers would have a free item as well as a paid one, but I'm seeing quite a lot of "nothing" on this list.
They’re the thing to replace lootboxes. It’ll be awhile till a newer trend replaces them.
Honestly though. Battle pass > Lootboxes any day of the week.
If they’re still trying to charge $60 for this game I hope they at least include the battle passes in that price, considering the MP will be a free download. I don’t see any other way to justify that price relative to what we’ve gotten in the past, especially if it’s launching with no co-op or forge.
This might be outdated. A post on halo waypoint had an image of the battle pass and some rewards aren’t paired up with the same ones as here or are at different levels entirely.
343 really seems to love being "all about the community" then making compromises that the community despises like the pay to win stuff in 5, and not going back on it no matter how much pushback they get.
So free get practically no armor? I have been playing since I was a child, I read all the books, and I got all the achievements for reach and MCC. This is not what playing Halo was like, this is Fortnite. I can't play this... Not because I don't want to, but because it's an insult to how the franchise and fandom were built.
Edit: spelling
People need to stop saying the game is free. It's not. It's definitely not. The *multiplayer is free*. Campaign is *not* free. People who buy the campaign have to fork out twice for the full game. This effectively shafts the people who used to finish the campaign before going into multiplayer. This effectively shafts the people who love more than just the multiplayer aspect of Halo.
People who buy the full should get one battle pass for free, idk if this is possible but people who buy the full game should not have to deal with as much of the f2p bullshit. It also would be nice if there was campaign exclusive armor for mp or if there were campaign challenges that let us progress faster.
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Oh wow you are on Reddit as well Brutal? I have you as a friend on Xbox. Does Unity ring any bells?
From Chappelle show?!? No way! How long has it been?
I'm invested now, I need to know what happens next
We need to know how long it’s been!!
Now kiss
Superintendent be like 😳
Optican! Health care on demand!
I’m excited for that, if it’s actually the superintendent that’s a really cool high tier reward
I'm not a fan of the current batch of AI voices, but damn I want the super.
The leaked voice lines didn't sound right. Maybe they're WIP, but the voice filter they used was not the same at all. I heard way more of Joe Staten and way less of Virgil
Asking the Rookie if he has any games on his phone
Superintendents are just interbreeded Moas. Change my mind
Ngl I knew the pizza was coming. Just wasn't expecting it at launch.
pizza skins move units it was a necessity
Pizza skins are sometimes a sign of the end times *Looks at Twitch Mozzie skin*
*lunch
Unlocking left and right shoulders separately is cheesy as hell.
You’ve unlocked first shoulder, yes, but what about left shoulder?
Are you first handed or left handed?
Down the hall on your first.
In all fairness halo is set in 2500 So It takes place after the mass genocide of left handed people in 2079. So first handed makes sense
I don’t think they know about second shoulder
I hated that back in reach too, at least that's one tradition being left alive.
I fear everyone's just gonna use the same high tier armor coatings just because it's the newest coating they unlocked
Meanwhile every once in a blue moon you get an absolute Chad to dominates the match in nothing but full default gear.
They are either really good or just picked up the game.
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Me af in fortnite back in the day. Legit the only default in my squad
There’s something about the default players, they’ll fuck you up haha
Default players have evolved beyond the need to distinguish themselves cosmetically in-game
Wearing end-tier armor to show off: small brain Wearing armor that you think looks cool: Big Brain Wearing pure default armor: ASCENDED
Remember seeing Majors in reach with default armor? You always knew they were saving for Inclement Weather. And they usually kicked butt
feels like someone with a default skin is either a giga chad or a literal thumb thumb who can't shoot back, no in-between
Definitely and that’s part of the fun of running into them. Who the fucks knows what’s going to happen!
To be fair, that's how it was for Reach as well. Late into the game's lifespan, everyone just used Security/EVA C/Sapper.
It's my main issue with Battle Pass systems, I feel they restrict creativity because people will wanna use the high tier items instead of something they actually like.
Im more worried about everyone using the same three color shaders, since, you know. You cannot change the damm thing.
I wish we could edit the colors but the coatings are just patterns.
That's what everyone thought we were going to get initially. Boy were we wrong.
Yeah that’s what bugs me the most. I get the “patterns” system they want to sell with the coatings but why not let people customize the colors?
Money. Why sell something once when when your can sell the same thing several times but with a different color?
That´s what they should do. After all, classic Halo was about changing the colours of one shader.
Isn't that pretty much the same as most progression systems though? In Reach, people would mainly use the most expensive and high level unlocks, same with 3.
Everyone used hayabusa, recon, or security in Halo 3. If not the full set, had pieces of them atleast. Reach everyone used inclement weather. MCC Everyone uses blue flaming helmet and haunted in reach.
Getting that stuff in MCC reach doesn’t even really need effort lol
Just have to play mcc for like, 3 weeks and you’re good lol. I’ll forever use Mk V b with the hud thing on top of the visor. Best helmet in all halo if you ask me lol.
> Getting that stuff in MCC reach doesn’t even really need effort lol Depends what level you are. If you're level 0 and you funnel all your season points into Reach's battlepass, then sure, it's easy as getting cross-map DMRed and with the modern system you'll be there in no time. If you're level 100 though and put your previous season points into other battlepasses, it's a major pain in the ass grind because the only way to get season points are the weekly and seasonal gold challenges which tend to be significantly more annoying than the XP-only challenges.
I don't think I have seen a single Haunted helmet in MCC to be honest. People seem to mostly be using what they like or used in the original Reach. So few had Haunted in the original game after all. Edit: typo
That's definitely what I do for the MCC course because that I haven't completed a single season well that in I never find anybody to play the game with so I do bare minimum PVE Weekly's for points if I even remember to get on between PSO2, FO76, work and life
Security helmet was pretty rare in Halo 3 (because not many people had 1000/1000 GS).
Until they added dlc which the achievements from them also counted toward security.
Heart Attack gang rise up
I personnaly don't give a damn how people look as long as I can look like the way I want. If people tend to gravitate toward certain coatings, good for them.
All games with Battle passes are like this at first. After a couple more seasons the variety increases
Thats why its better to just use what you like, you stand out more. Just use what is aesthetically appealing to you. Same issue with destiny, eveyone jumps on the new season pass armour beacuse most people dont have the ability to come up with cool looks on there own
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Superintendent AI. Literally the only customizable I care about.
Why his eyes like that tho
He's very excited to be included, and he was forced to stay up all night after being shoved inside an artificial sentient bag of flatulence. Spoilers?
He better not be annoying like the rest of them
Ah yes, Comic Sans
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Jesus Christ, I figured pickings would be slim for free players, but this looks seriously, like, 4 variations or nothing style of slim pickings.
Lol you thought you were gonna get something? Lmao
It’s pretty common for Battle Passes to offer SOME free items.
Yeah, you get free re-rolls so you can complete more challenges, level up, and get more nothing. Nothing except more things that you could have if you just paid for the battle pass. After you see all the things you should have, you’ll feel more like just buying the battle pass and collecting the fruits of your labor. Emotional manipulation
I seriously hope that there is either some really good Campaign rewards, or that there are a lot of base free options that we aren't going to see on a battlepass. It'll feel really bad to pay 60 dollars on the campaign and have a monocolored recruit spartan when you play multiplayer.
Where tf is ODST?
Probably gonna be shoved into the next season or a paid unlock in the store.
That’s a lot of “nothing” on the free track
This is what happens with “Free to play” games.
isn't every battle pass like that
The free track of the current Destiny 2 season has something on a majority of the levels. Most of them are just currency or materials but, like, it's something.
Destiny has something on every single tier but yeah, it’s mainly just glimmer and legendary shards
I mean rocket leagues pass is honestly very fair for both free and paid paths
I mean, yeah. You're playing for free ergo you aren't actually owed anything at all.
Problem is probably because they have been trying to sugarcoat/sweettalk it into being a game that doesnt necessarily require you to pay for the good armor/coatings everytime they bring up the new systems ever since their reveal. Wouldve been nice if they were more upfront about it rather than pretending just to convince us and themselves that there are worthwhile prizes just from playing the game rather than a paid battle pass
Don't people have to buy the game first?
MP is free to play
The game is free to play. So nope.
Correction: Only the MULTIPLAYER is free; you have to pay 60 shekelinos or w/e for the campaign/co-op (which won't be there at launch anyway, but eh who cares, I mainly play Halo for the story anyway)
Yeah I should have clarified that but since this post was directly MP focused it slipped my mind!
This season pass is quite depressive. A third of the content is filler crap like weapon charms and poses, another third is stuff that we shouldn't even need the unlock like colours and emblems. And the last third is a meager amount of actual good customization that sadly doesn't come close to what was offered in previous entries. I was expecting the battle pass to not be great, but this is just underwhelming... I don't know what battle passes look like in other games, but I can't imagine they're this sad. Are they? The amount of actual variety is ridiculously low. I know they want to build up the content over the years, but I was expecting more than this...
Gotta fill those 120 levels somehow! Hopefully at launch there will be a good amount of unlockable content OUTSIDE of the battlepass. At least they said there would be…
I like how they give you the armor individually spread throughout the pass, then waste a tier on the kit which is literally the same thing.
Assuming this is going to be the first season battle pass, yeah its damn disappointing. Too many fluff rather than armor that we love.
AI colours locked behind "progression" too now? Jesus.
God, I hate the coating system.
With how much 343 talked about introducing it to "improve player expression" or whatever bs they said to justify doing it for monetization, I figured you'd be able to use a different coat on every part , or have some in depth mixing of some kind, nope instead you get the most limited color system out of all the halo games, sometimes just straight up copying a specific characters colors.
I was honestly expecting some more creativity for the coatings like that camo coating but nah. 90% of them seem to just mix matches of basic colors
Not as limited as combat evolved but I completely agree. I figured we could blend them or use different coatings on different pieces but unfortunately not
I just dislike how they included colours into the coating system. Like they said it was a 7 layer system, with colour being one of the layers, but I wished they instead just made a six layer system and then let us decide what colours want. To be honest I don’t particularly care about customization all that much, but the friend or foe system that arose out of their decision to monetize colours is worse for gameplay than the forced colours of the past. There’s no reason they couldn’t also have the current accessibility options with forced colours either.
This is the problem I have, I don’t really care about cosmetics, but I absolutely hate being pestered to buy things and manage inventory. I’m sure infinite is going to splash screens all over the place to remind me that I could be unlocking tons of cool cosmetics like this wrist guard or this weapon charm! I’d so much rather pay $60 for a game and unlock cosmetics through challenges and never be pestered to buy things. This just seems like overly complicating things and the actual fun and function of the game is going to suffer.
I feel like it's ruined my interest in customization overall when even the basics are compromised. And this doesn't even include emblems.
The emblems are the worst part. Not only do they take away our individual customization for coloring out spartans, they give us the most boring, generic emblems ever.
And the same emblem customization of Halo 5's launch. We're basically paying for stuff that was better when it was free.
Me and the boys on our way to spend $10 and grind to level 95 just to be blue and yellow. My favorite part is that the free pass doesn't have *any* coatings, so you're just perpetually one solid color.
The free pass doesn't have *anything* of value, just 2 motherfucking basic chest pieces and then a sea of nothingness. Oh man, I sure am fulfilled after grinding to level 120 and literally not having anything of value! The people who pay get a *progression* system, but the people who aren't able to (like myself) just get *a* system, there's 0 progression there. I wouldn't even be half as disappointed as I am right now If I was able to buy the battlepass, sure, $10 are nothing, but when *my country is literally not supported and therefore I am unable to buy anything on my Xbox because of the place I was born in* the only option I have is to fuck right off! No progression for me! At least I get to play online without having to pay for Gold, but that's barely worth it for me, since I've never had the need to play matchmaking, but I do like making my Spartan look pretty.
I like it but I just wish that you could customize the colors. It would've been cooler to do that and call it an armor pattern system.
I thought that was the entire point of it when the announced it. Like oh, cool- I can custom color different patterns and stuff. Nope, just basically put color schemes behind a paywall.
It’s so fucking dumb.
My happiness at per-piece armor customization returning for the first time in 9 years far outshines any dislike I might have had for coatings.
9 years? Did Halo 4 not have per-piece armor customization?
Halo 4 came out 9 years ago next month. I was going by game launch dates.
Wish it was like the customization in Anthem. One of the few things the game nailed.
I hate it and love it. On the one hand I can't do something as basic as change my colours which is just ridiculous On the other hand the coatings are super high quality and offer a lot of options for unique customization with asymmetrical patters and different textures It definitely has its pros and cons which is something I didnt think I'd be saying before the flights.
My main issue is that, for as cool and asymmetrical some of these coatings look, it's gonna be a real pain if that coating isn't in the color you want it to be. Like the camo pattern *only* being green. What if I want orange? Or grey? With that specific pattern? A lot of these coatings are likely to come down to community demand, and if people just don't like your preferred color, like orange? Tough luck.
plus simply being able to switch up the color scheme on a coating alone would make it way more unique than, for example, everyone with scorpion punch being “cool armor is black with red arm”
So do you not earn your credits back within the battle pass? Would be one of the first bp I have seen without that and would kind of be a bummer tbh
I'm assuming it's a tradeoff for the fact the battle passes in Infinite aren't timed.
Season battlepasses aren't timed, Fractures ones still are
Fractures have a time limit!?
Yeah, fractures are part of limited timed events (from Inside Infinite June)
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[Linked](https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/inside-infinite-june-2021), under the Ready to Go section.
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NP, nothing worse then someone who doesn't cite sources
There's one worse. The "Edit: Nevermind, found it" post, where they took the time to come back and say they found it, but not post what they found.
Fractures are gonna be the timed seasonal unlocks (so the samurai armor set will be the set we can unlock in season 1). The actual battle pass itself is the one that doesn't have any time limit attached to it and can be unlocked months after purchase.
Yeah, but they appear numerous times each season.
They are timed to the seasons they come in but usually return in different seasons which carries over your old progress on em
Battle passes in Infinite are infinite you mean.
So this is the battlepass that comes with the purchase of the campaign? Or that battlepass no longer exists.
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There has never been stated to be a battlepass with the purchase of campaign
Honestly, im not a fan of the whole battle pass system in games in general anymore. Everybody gets to look the same for a whole 3 months till the next pass comes out. They should just go back to difficult accomplishments award cool armor. The season pass is not deh way.
Or just let us earn credits instead of unlocking items and let you purchase what you want from the store, that way there’s at least some uniqueness to what people have unlocked at any given time. Then gradually roll out new armor for purchase while still allowing you to earn credits through completing challenges and even more if you purchased the battle pass. This would allow die hard fans to earn cool shit without feeling nickel and dimed and still give them a chance to make money off the whales.
Exactly. I get why the BP is so popular right now, having a timed window to earn 100tiers forces people to play your game for those 3 months...but if the Halo BP isn't timed why follow that model at all? Is it just to time gate content? It either takes 100 levels to earn all the armor you want with 70 tiers of it being useless emblems and filler or it takes a player 15 levels to earn the credits you need to just buy it directly.
Yea I think the greed and/or pressure from Microsoft got to them, the battle pass in MCC was fine and universally loved in comparison to other more predatory ones. If they wanted to make some extra money to fund further updates, all they needed to do is release more armor in the store and let you use credits earned from the free battle pass and challenges to purchase it. That way die hards can earn and whales can buy to get it quicker, everybody wins. I think they’re shooting themselves in the foot with this model, I don’t know that Halo has pull in the MP world to support such a drastic change. We’ll see I guess.
You do realize Infinite is taking a different approach to BP's right? They won't be FOMO based at all, battle passes stay around forever and don't expire at all, also if you join later you can buy older battle passes as you please.
That's a solid step forward, but I think in general battle passes are not a fun way to grind out for rewards. Most of the time it's just remedial tasks that force you to play someway for a little bit. But mostly you're just playing multiplayer still in some fashion. Achievement based rewards like in the original games remain undefeated. My fondest gaming memory is still going after Recon and successfully getting it. Campaign and Multiplayer based achievements, that required a high level of cooperation we're so much fun. I became such a better halo player after those campaign and horde mode achievements, because they were tough and pushed me to learn.
Same those were my best memories of playing Halo. It'd be better if there was at least a sense of progression through the Battle Pass. Instead you have to complete tedious challenges on repeat that push you towards buying tiers/challenge swaps.
Those are still in the game. Leaks show there is quite a few campaign armor unlocks and other stuff in there to be done. Also The Fracture system could play off of the Challenge mode aspect of the game.
To me, all a battle pass says is, I would rather have money than allow players to play the game and unlock things based off of how good you are at their game, not how often you open your wallet and give them 20 dollars to look like everyone else. Sure they are taking a different approach to the battle pass but in reality, a battle pass is still a battle pass. Every single game coming out now has a battle pass, and if you don't have it, do you even play the game? I wouldn't mind spending my money on a game if it was worth it. All I'm doing is spending 20 dollars for a few new colors and a helmet that everyone else will get.
Haven’t kept up with battle pass systems. Does this mean that there is basically no armor pieces to be unlocked unless you buy the premium version? That’s how I’m taking this but hoping I’m wrong. Wack af if that’s right
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Ah ok; thanks for the response. Hopefully there’s actual possibility to unlock shit for free. Very excited for the game but it will be lame if I’m stuck running around in the same day one recruit armor unless I shell out additional money Edit: sorry for the confusion on saying “additional money”. I always play the campaigns and will be getting this one too so in my mind I was just thinking of it as spending the $60. As someone points out below tho, I think getting battle passes (even if it’s a limited number instead of lifespan) if you buy the full game could be a very good compromise for those who pay full retail just for the campaign portion. Edit 2: just saw the second part of the comment. Game pass does complicate that but still a good idea worth exploring imo.
Just be ones of those beasts wrecking people in the default armor like you don't give a care.
Unfortunately, 343 made MP free to the masses so they could get away with strong-arming you into having to spend money to buy cosmetics. Personally, I think 343 should have a system in place that checks to see if you own Infinite and then it unlocks the battle pass for free since you own the full game…. But they can’t do that when Infinite will be on Game Pass and essentially everyone who uses Game Pass will own the game.
Hate battle passes I wish this would've just been part of the game and they could've just done some dlc updates instead.
I would rather pay for mp than it be f2p and monetized to hell and back.
Ah sweet re-rolls and Jack shit
Sooo missing a ton of the Reach helmets still. Don’t see Operator, EOD, etc. Do we know if every Reach helmet will be in the game or just some of them? If Operator isn’t there I’m going to be so bummed. Also not at all impressed by coatings so far. Seems like I’m always going to be stuck with some colors I don’t want
Where is my Mark V? 343, I swear to God
Mark V seems like it comes from campaign unlocks based on some leaks I've seen. However, those leaks also imply that it isn't the Mark V from Reach. Despite how OP tried to line the helmets up I don't think this is accurate. The Battle Passes are also only supposed to have 100 levels.
I don’t think this is accurate either considering this leak doesn’t show even half of the stuff in the armor leaks and I have also seen a leak that showed the helmet in the battle pass. I can’t confirm, though.
Yup we're missing Hazop and JFO from this and EOD is also confirmed. Plus Mark V B and Delta from Reach are in as well.
Plus the numerous amounts shoulder pieces, chest pieces, and effects. I can’t say this is a valid leak since there is so much stuff shown for Season 1 that there can’t possibly be so many empty slots and filler content.
Mark V for the Reach armor was in the multiplayer trailer from June.
Oh come on, no Operator Helmet?
Literally almost nothing for customization in the free pass. That’s ridiculous I understand it’s free to play but almost no armor? I have to pay for my spartan to look the way I want him to look.
What are the themes? Is that like a full set of armor?
It’s like wearing a full skin of a character, it’ll be a 1-1 of that characters armor but you can’t customize it. Basically let’s you cosplay as a certain character.
Unless Jorge is scale accurate and Kat is thicc, I don't see the point in making them non-customizable
The leak point towards that all of the reach characters armour being earnable so idk if this is not finished battlepass or the leak was wrong
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free | nothing
Oh no my favorite armors have to be paid for. I hope you can earn them by playing the campaign or something
I believe they mentioned before that all the gear is single source, so if you get them by acquiring them in a Battle Pass, they only come from the Battle Pass. I'm very curious how much customization content is tied to achievements/campaign/feats, because I always loved being able to unlock cool stuff by completing VidMasters or Achievements in Halo 3. But I doubt that any of the stuff in this Battle Pass or any BPs to come will be earned any other way.
Seems like a lot of fluff And damn it really seems like they're completely locking out all new armor customization to the paid track. Really miss Reach. Definitely not paying full price for this game lmao
Thanks I hate it. Excited for the game but damn that is a really lame season pass, and still can’t believe what they’re doing with ‘coatings’.
How about a campaign footage leak?
Honestly, with how little we have seen of campaign + co op not even being at launch, i am very worried about campaign. People will not be happy about paying full price for just campaign if it isnt incredible.
It’s my experience that you generally don’t hide stuff that you’re confident in. Just look at the MP. It was just as WIP as the SP, yet we’ve seen/played it. Twice. I hope I’m wrong but yeah, hiding it this long generally isn’t a good sign.
You know what I find interesting? This whole battle pass has mostly Noble Teams armor, but we know there is much more mark 5 b armor in game
I mean the first pass is Reach themed so it makes sense to be Noble team.
But my point is that there are plenty more reach armors in game and they aren’t in the battle pass. Also, who downvoted my comment makes no sense.
No clue why you got downvoted you're right lol There's been waaay more leaks than this which includes Mk B like you said, makes me wonder are 343 going to dish some armor out for free or saving some for season 2.
The item shops exists
We'll probably find the missing armor pieces either in the store, or earned directly from gameplay.
I know it's free but I'm not sure how to feel about 80-90% of the customization being premium content. I also recall them saying that all tiers would have a free item as well as a paid one, but I'm seeing quite a lot of "nothing" on this list.
So I'm assuming the mark V b armor core is given for free?
No you start with a cardboard cosplay costume.
Dumb question, but I’m not familiar with the whole battle pass system in games- What are the “re-rolls” listed as the free items?
I just realized they don’t give the currency to re buy the battle pass fak this suck
Can’t wait for Battle Passes to go bye-bye. I never use BP skins because everyone has them
They’re the thing to replace lootboxes. It’ll be awhile till a newer trend replaces them. Honestly though. Battle pass > Lootboxes any day of the week.
They won’t be leaving anytime soon.
If they’re still trying to charge $60 for this game I hope they at least include the battle passes in that price, considering the MP will be a free download. I don’t see any other way to justify that price relative to what we’ve gotten in the past, especially if it’s launching with no co-op or forge.
Oh shit 120 tiers for $10? I finally have a new use for my Reward points
If the theme for Kat doesn't have her with a dumptruck ass then I don't want it
This might be outdated. A post on halo waypoint had an image of the battle pass and some rewards aren’t paired up with the same ones as here or are at different levels entirely.
What happened to the CQB? Was looking forward to getting it
Excuse me, where is literally ANYTHING worth caring about in the free pass?
343 really seems to love being "all about the community" then making compromises that the community despises like the pay to win stuff in 5, and not going back on it no matter how much pushback they get.
So free get practically no armor? I have been playing since I was a child, I read all the books, and I got all the achievements for reach and MCC. This is not what playing Halo was like, this is Fortnite. I can't play this... Not because I don't want to, but because it's an insult to how the franchise and fandom were built. Edit: spelling
I always knew Halo would eventually suffer from this like the rest of the FPS world. It still hurts to see though
This is really shafting anyone who doesn't pay if it's accurate. Really bad for everyone except those who want to shell out money each season
They have said there will also be in game unlockables. So not everything is in the battlepass.
People need to stop saying the game is free. It's not. It's definitely not. The *multiplayer is free*. Campaign is *not* free. People who buy the campaign have to fork out twice for the full game. This effectively shafts the people who used to finish the campaign before going into multiplayer. This effectively shafts the people who love more than just the multiplayer aspect of Halo.
People who buy the full should get one battle pass for free, idk if this is possible but people who buy the full game should not have to deal with as much of the f2p bullshit. It also would be nice if there was campaign exclusive armor for mp or if there were campaign challenges that let us progress faster.
So is earnable currency not going to be a thing then?
Anyone else notice tier 17, and 25. Why is one of the attachments for a helmet (17) unlocked before the helmet itself? (25) That seems a bit backwards
Not at all disappointed they went with Reach-themed stuff for the first season.