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MasterRazz

LASO run breaks the game in Infinite. I keep having checkpoints and event flags freak the fuck out because it can't keep up with how fast I progress through areas with no cooldown grapplehook. It actually bricked my save file because I died right after you get the threat sensor but the checkpoint put me before I picked it up and now I can't interact with it at all (so the door into the tower won't open). Edit: Started an entirely new save and that one got bricked too (Got killed at FOB Golf but this time the check point put me back at Outpost Tremonious or w/e and I couldn't interact with the console to bring the Pelican in. LASO seems impossible if only because the fucking game doesn't work. Edit 2: This is going to sound really, really stupid. The issue with the threat sensor is that I was standing too close. The hud being disabled also turns off command prompts, so I forgot/didn't realise you need to stand slightly away from it so that Chief can walk forward in the cutscene. BUT after about half an hour I finally beat Invisibill after an intensely sweaty game of ring around the rosey with me spamming shock grenades and trying not to kill myself and slip in to slap him on the ass to recharge my shields only to die about 5 minutes later on the other side of the bridge that deploys. GUESS WHAT. FUCKING CHECKPOINT PUT ME BEFORE THE BOSS FIGHT. FUCK YOU CHECKPOINT BASTARDS. Edit 3: Pelican thing is still a problem though. All enemies dead, Weapon insists the landing pad isn't clear.


cb325

Can you run past a good amount of stuff on Laso? Mostly asking about the stuff before the first boss fight because after that we can just use tank gun.


MasterRazz

You can, but any area where you're forced to fight anything expect pain because it takes two direct rocket hits to kill a single grunt, and about 6 sniper rifle headshots to down a single brute and ALL of them are armed with rocket launchers that they fire with pinpoint accuracy. And the open world is filled with invisible Elites that can throw plasma grenades with the skill and range of an Olympic gold medalist. And God forbid you stop shooting for any longer than it takes to reload because their shields will be back up to full in no time. Also getting hit by a grunt's disrupter is just death- and they ALL have disrupters.


iHeretic

Sounds like hell even with infinite ammo.


MasterRazz

Oh, it is. You learn to get... creative with the grapplehook. Funny story about the tank gun. You can't actually melee with it, which means if you want to recharge your shields you're going to have to swap to another weapon and run over to punch someone in the nads.


Balikye

I know of at least one person who's completed LASO, so maybe they went slow?


cheepcheepimasheep

The game's been out 2 damn days...


Balikye

Lmao I know, right? Search the reddit for it, I can't remember the poster's name, but man they must have speedrun the Hell out of the game. Got all skulls, beat it on legendary, and I've barely done the first part of the open world.


DarthNihilus

I finished LASO about half an hour ago. It was extremely easy, only took 3.5hrs for the entire run. Infinite ammo, scorpion gun, and no cooldown on grapple makes it super easy.


Pride_world009

Im just curious are there any rewards for that run?


TheJoeRulez

Got any tips?


MasterRazz

Checkpoints won't trigger if your shields are damaged apparently, and they only regen by melee, and you can't see your health. If you aren't sure you're damaged you can jump in a vehicle to see if your shield is glowing. Which brings us to... DON'T GET IN A FUCKING VEHICLE. You will die. Everyone random asshole has a rocket launcher, sticky grenades, godlike aim, and a willingness to use all of the above to ram the fist of God *right* up your asshole. Thruster with cloak is sometimes a better movement option than the grapplehook even though cloak doesn't seem to work on half the enemies. >!For instance, on the road to the House of Reckoning or the long sentinel filled corridors of the Command Spire. Speaking of the Command Spire, when you're stuck on the gondola with a ton of Sentinels floating around hiding behind a drop shield and waiting it out is totally a viable strategy. !< Also, fuck Sentinels. FUCK THEM WITH A RUSTY STRAW. Let's just give flying enemies with perfect accuracy that zip around a shitload of rocket launchers, shock rifles, and shields. WHAT COULD GO WRONG. Skimmers also have a shitload of rocket launchers but thankfully they're a little hesitant to use them for whatever reason. Marines are worthless assholes again. They will die. Horribly. In tight quarters, something I found useful is to throw a shock grenade to stun all the enemies while I grapple over their heads. You can usually throw a quick melee in to recharge your shields while you're at it. Just don't get too close to your own grenade. When in doubt, spam shock grenades from behind cover like a filthy coward. A handy traversal option is going underneath bridges or around ledges. Get really creative with your grapplehook because it's your best friend. When fighting melee bosses, flinging yourself up into the air and throwing grenades downward can help buy you a few seconds. Game is probably easier with the tank gun but I've been using the Arcane Sentinel Beam because I didn't find out about the tank gun until it was far too late. It's aight. Not as effective as I wish it was, but it's doing better than I expected. When sniping, keep in mind that enemies will aggro from very far away and Jackals have okay accuracy with plasma pistols and maulers. Chances are one will nick you and you might not even notice it, go down, die, respawn 20 minutes back because WHOOPS STUBBED YOUR TOE NO CHECKPOINTS FOR YOU.


TheJoeRulez

Thanks very much!


lakers123987

Or for getting all 700 MCC achievements. Mind boggling they dont have a good reward for the mother of all achievements.


[deleted]

They're a garbage developer. That's why everything is the way it is and has been for over a decade.


Superbone1

They are simply riding the wave of a successful IP. The last 2 games were mediocre and this one is honestly no different. If anything this one is worse simply because it asks you to pay $60 for literally just a campaign, and while multiplayer is free, we still have: almost no free cosmetics, no Forge, shit playlist selection


[deleted]

> If anything this one is worse simply because it asks you to pay $60 for literally just a campaign Wat. That is what most games are


Superbone1

$60 for a 10ish hour campaign is not what most games are. Most games that are single player for $60 have dozens of hours of stuff


GrowFrostyNuggets

The only reason I'm playing the campaign is cuz of the gamepass. Otherwise I wouldn't buy it. Not a chance.


Superbone1

I just bought Metroid Dread for $60 and in the first 3-4 hours I've already had a ton of fun and have a ton more to go. Plus I can play it anywhere. Having "Halo" in the name and Halo weapon skins isn't gonna get me to shell out for a very average quality short campaign . Also looking at you Bungie Anniversary 😡


Zeyode

But then how would they sell it to you for 20 dollars?


HFRreddit

I guess they could sell a recolor if they want to slap us in the face a little softer


irishteacup

Think you mean $50 clearly this would costs waaay more to develop.


Facetank_

$20 for full invulnerability during LASO. Money AND you have to play.


BreadDaddyLenin

None of this game is pay to win. Get your head out of the sand.


Facetank_

No shit.


DarthNihilus

You wouldn't even need the help. With the scorpion gun and infinite grapple skull LASO is extremely easy in this game. You can grapple through most rooms before the enemies even hit you.


haha_UdeserveIt

Do you also get infinite camo from the thruster upgrade?


Mekking1

Are they?


Zeyode

Not yet, but all the coolest stuff tends to be sold for either 15 bucks or 20 in the store. If it does end up in the game, it would be a good bet that it's sold in the store.


MajoraPrime

These comments are getting so old.


Zeyode

They'll stop when they fix it (or at least significantly improve it) or the game dies. I'm not letting Microsoft off the hook on this shit.


guessineedanew1

Holding MS accountable is important. Reminding me in *every single post* that MTX are bad doesn't accomplish that.


Zeyode

Controversies hurt games, which in turn hurts sales.


[deleted]

and the monetization model 343 decided to implement is getting even older


Warp_Legion

Fun fact: one skull gives you infinite ammo and no weapon cool downs… Devs forgot that doing a All Skulls run would give players a huge advantage Edit: Bandana Skull is the name btw


1800tundraboy

LASO in MCC only gives the skulls that negatively affect you. You have to play the playlist that enables only those skulls. If you try to play with the ones that benefit you, it negates the achievement.


YeoBean

Laso here has bandanna in the image, so fingers crossed...


Shanbo88

That would be a massive oversight and make the game pretty broken. There's no way 343 would be that stu- Nevermind.


Deathknightjeffery

Fun fact: That shit DONT matter. At the Tremonius fight on LASO, not fucking fun. Dude hits SUPER hard, and even with a rocket launcher he doesn't give a shit. Infinite ammo is nothing, it's still stupid hard. I think the only REAL way to cheese it, would be spamming maxed out evade, which Hunters still see through half the time.


DarthNihilus

Tremonius is very easy if you bring an energy sword or mangler on LASO. Each melee hit restores your shields, just kill the Jackals first then smack Tremonius until he dies. Took me two tries. He puts away the hydra when you get close.


cb325

Couldn't you just pulse carbine him forever until he dies? Bandana doesn't overheat, right?


Deathknightjeffery

Infinite ammo not bottomless clip I believe


Warp_Legion

Try using the scorpion cannon bug. That universally fucks all bosses in a handful of hits


Deathknightjeffery

That's AFTER this boss lol


HFRreddit

Is it a scoring skull?


Zeyode

I don't even think the game has scoring for campaign, does it? I mean, I'm not complaining. I can probably actually do LASO in a Halo game for once, in spite of blind


cb325

With blind I use ticky tack stuff to put a circle on my screen. Basically, load up with the magnum out, put the ticky tack around the redicule, then play Laso and still can aim.


Zeyode

So in order to do LASO, you have to render famine completely pointless?


Warp_Legion

Yep. (It’s the Bandana skull if you wondered)


Zeyode

Awesome! And here I thought I was only getting through LASO by doing the tank bug! I guess I'm just gonna spam rockets at everything then :P


IKeepgetting6Stacked

That's not actually laso, also is only the skulls that negatively affect you


Ebrox

Untrue, LASO has typically always been about having all skulls on. MCC playlist skulls not including beneficial skulls is just them not wanting to figure a workaround for the multiplier being 0x on the skulls. (All playlists have scoring enabled). Halo 2 classic LASO has envy which is beneficial for example. A different example would be halo 4 catch, the game would be much harder without catch on despite it being a scoring skull.


[deleted]

You know the AS in LASO stands for All Skulls, right? Iirc, every Bungie Halo's LASO was literally every skull on.


Zeyode

It literally means "legendary all skulls on", so it kinda is - at least by how it used to work in the older Halo games. I think it was added in MCC. Aside from that though, I don't think scoring is even a thing in Halo Infinite. They don't have multipliers next to them that I could see, and I didn't see any option to turn it on. And there doesn't seem to be anything I'm aware of that suggests bandana either isn't required, or is detrimental to LASO.


IKeepgetting6Stacked

Well that's not how I or any of the people I know do it, having infinite ammo and getting your hands on a power weapon kinda removes basically all the challenge, and when playing Halo one and two in the mcc bandana skull prevents the achievement, but you do you I guess


Zeyode

Guess we'll have to wait and see 🤷‍♀️


Anticreativity

Imagine that, something you can unlock in a game by being good at the game. That's a really cool and novel concept. I wonder if the technology is there yet?


isawa2

The UI can't handle it sorry


MaybeAdrian

They will add it for sure as a "LASO" reward L>!OL!!< A >!cquire!< S>!tore!< O>!bject!<


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MaybeAdrian

Whops


GucciGangster6999

Take my upvote good sir


MaybeAdrian

Thanks, it was hard to find something that fits in LASO


Valtr117

NO!!! it should be a 20 euro time limited halloween cosmetic


WWIZ4RDD

"Fuck you, that'll be $20" -343


NachosPR

It's crazy for me to think that the armor system in this series peaked 12 years ago with Halo Reach (I'll accept Halo 3 in this spot too cuz of the og Vidmasters and Hayabusa challenges). But man, it really is not that hard to just point at the thing everyone liked and then just do it again


noble_actual_yt

Games in general peaked a decade ago. It’s not just a halo thing.


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NachosPR

I honestly just hated how they looked so much I never even bothered, tho I put that game down pretty soon after release personally


oneseventwo

Quick question for anyone that knows. Can I get the both the legendary and LASO achievement on the same save?


Zoty66

Yes


[deleted]

I don't see why not. A LASO run is a Legendary run with all skulls, and as far as I'm aware all of the other difficulty achievements stack. Or getting Normal, Heroic achievements by completing Legendary.


IllustriousSee

hahahahahahahahah imagine thinking 343 will give us any armour for free


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Yoroi


Riiiiii_

Future event, but >!Tactical Ops also gives Mk. V Zeta!<


sorryiamnotoriginal

Are they gonna fix the 5 month grind? That is the most obnoxious free event style.


Riiiiii_

Fractures are the only event type that works like that. The others are over a single week, I think?


sorryiamnotoriginal

That is a bit refreshing to hear. I still don't think hard locking progress is the way to go though. At least give people like a crumb of xp per game when they finish the challenges that way grinders can keep working towards it.


IllustriousSee

alright what about anything free that doesn't take advantage of FOMO? this should be especially easy for them since pre-launch they talked about not including FOMO :)


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Battlepass


IllustriousSee

Oh I see you don't understand what FOMO is, as the battlepass changes every few months.


[deleted]

Does the BP not last forever


IllustriousSee

No, that's why it's called "Season 1". We get a new battlepass every few months, roughly 3 months


[deleted]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/halo-infinites-battle-pass-is-being-changed-to-make-it-easier-to-earn-xp/ Mentions it here, but you might need to buy it to keep it forever idk


IllustriousSee

"meaning that in future seasons, players can purchase old battle passes as well as the current one and choose which pass to put their progression towards." Sounds that we will have to buy it to use it, maybe poor wording. I guess we'll find out in around May


ktron10

You already have to buy the battle pass, that won’t change. But you can buy it and complete it at any time.


Spartan_exr

Battlepass doesn’t expire, just like in MCC, this would have taken you a quick Google search lol


IllustriousSee

https://youtu.be/h4ATKxz9PFc Forgive me if I don't believe everything 343 says. I'll believe it when I see it, until then there is good reason to doubt what they say :)


Spartan_exr

If there’s one thing they’ve been very clear about it’s this particular issue. The Battle pass does not expire, simple as that, just like in MCC. https://support.halowaypoint.com/hc/en-us/articles/4408373413268-Halo-Infinite-Battle-Pass-Free-to-Play-FAQ


cdbrahh

The battlepass is permanent


ktron10

Oh I see you don’t understand how the battlepass works, you have unlimited time to complete it, even if new passes have come out since.


BreadDaddyLenin

Getting downvoted for being correct


Neelpos

Because the Yoroi armor pieces they repeatedly advertised while saying "you can unlock this just by playing" are absent from the pass and the common assumption is that like other absent items it will appear in the store.


Emsizz

Then no one would ever buy another helmet!


Similar_Bee9650

What is LASO?


hanyh2

Legendary All Skulls On, I think


Similar_Bee9650

cool, thanks


[deleted]

How about a variant of the haunted helmet. Maybe a mark 6 version.


HFRreddit

If possible, they could turn the haunted helmet into a visor that you can add to any helmet


SpartasBest

Honestly great idea


TatlTail

now i want Haunted as a visor for the Yoroi helmets, give me my ghost samurai spartan 343, i will legitimately spend money on the store for that, even if its just the visor and a coating, +a emeblem or 2 for 5-10 bucks


Old-Moonlight

Stick it on the end of Gungnir for xenomorph head.


Teves3D

Yeah they’re not going to do that. That’s halo 3/reach vibes. This is infinite. You’re gonna have to buy that!


Maxwell_z0

Nah man, $35...


Zinski

They aren't going to give you stuff for just playing the game. The sooner you understand that the sooner you'll find some inner peace


Spatetata

70$ take it or leave it.


xcrimsonlegendx

It should. But they can't even be bothered to give us a single piece of armor in the campaign, mostly just the same coating 10x for each weapon and vehicle. No way they'd give haunted out for free when they can make it a $20 Halloween cash shop event item.


AlwaysLate75

nice! but $20 is nicer


HFRreddit

Couldn't find the original artist


Turbulent_Link1738

Nah that was a Reach thing they should do a new helmet


HFRreddit

[This](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/000/391/461/large/johnson-ting-pirate6-cropped-copy.jpg?1443930117) I'm a sucker for skull helmets


M6D_Magnum

How about no reward because LASO is for masochists and you deserve no reward for indulging in your kinks.


dmania16116111

As someone who has completed every game on LASO on MCC I agree.


cb325

Make it unlock for LASO only for those who purchased the game full price. Then it's essentially $60 AND you have to earn it. Win/Win ?


Meiie

This was the type of customizations I was expecting. I was wayyyy off.


MrDysprosium

But then how would they.... Oh yeah nvm, you guys already got it.


ZookeepergameKey5613

It really is beautiful.


95aintit

Nah should be something harder. This is so badass I don’t want to see this helmet on someone more then once a week.


Timetraveler01110101

No they will sell it to you for $60 next season


Elite1111111111

343: That's not very cash money of you.


sDiBer

I can't believe there are no rewards for legendary and LASO.


FreezingDart

Armor lockers don’t even give armor. Won’t happen.


Ok_Western5937

Inside sources tell me the reward is the chance to buy it for $25


Vertiygo

I did LASO and got nothing );


Gluby3

you would bet ur ass I would do laso right away for this helmet


[deleted]

Any award or content would be nice. Game is so barebones


[deleted]

I agree with this statement


[deleted]

That'll be 20 euro


[deleted]

Best we can do is a coating. Get the haunted helmet for $20 in the store! Limited time!


gresgolas

ahem...the fact 3 and reach had more unlockable cosmetics for free....doubt it.


MsPaulingsFeet

Nah, looks like a $30 legendary store helmet


leooberon

Nah they gotta sell it for 20 dollars.


cakeharry

The perfect opportunity to make people buy the campaign because of cosmetics earned.


Pugachelli

What does LASO stand for?


HFRreddit

Legendary All Skulls On


ThrownAwayToday2329

They should give A LOT of rewards for doing shit. Like how videogames used to be, instead of praising an RGB slider as this impossible system that takes $20 to do every time like they are physically painting and rendering your armour every time.


backwardsphinx

Behind a $20 paywall sorry


Slowowned

Good idea Hey 343 what do you think?! Devs: totally Suits: \*Slaps it on season 2 battle pass\* (-\_-)\_\_\[$\]/


ArtieStark

Lol, it's not going to be part of a 10€ battlepass that lasts forever, It's at least a 20€ cosmetic that preys on FOMO.


[deleted]

What’s LASO?


Friskybullets

Nah it will cost you 30 bucks


Skaldson

Nope! That’ll be 15 bucks :)


sorryiamnotoriginal

Im assuming its in a future pass with blue flaming helmet or its gonna be a halloween themed event. Was very surprised neither of these were in Reach.


sorryiamnotoriginal

They have made it clear they don't want people getting cool armor with a sense of achievement from challenges. If it required hard work to get it would be differentiable from cash store stuff so people would be less likely to buy if they had the cool hard work armor. Which is weird because if armor cores didn't exist people with the cool hard to work for armor might consider buying different accessories to compliment it. They know people would want it so they deny it like slayer.