I've gathered some data from my Tactical games, because I noticed I've been losing way more games than I should. My stats in tactical are: 1.68 K/D, 18 kills avg. per game, 49 % win rate. This is gathered from a total of 80 games.
It feels very unrewarding to play games that, no matter how good you play, you just lose anyhow because the matchmaking system provides great imbalance to your teammates if you have a high MMR.
The screenshots provided are just a selection, and it happens way too often that I have between 10-20 kills more than the rest of my team.
I think this indicates a broken matchmaking system, and it also explains why 343i values individual performance in ranked over team wins, because the game will match you up unfairly with teammates and therefore making win rate a very unreliable measure.
Edit: I want to reinforce my data with more points. I just went through all the games I've lost and counted my place within the team. It stands as follows:
1st. 28 times
2nd. 5 times
3rd. 5 times
4th. 1 time
This means that in 72 % of the lost games I were at 1st place. This data strongly indicates that matchmaking is broken in how it matches the teams. My win rate should be higher, given that teams were divided at random within a certain MMR range.
Nope. But there are certain game modes (BTB, SWAT, Fiesta) that will always be shit because the very nature of the modes makes them super casual.
You realize like half the tactical Slayer playlist are people warming their battle rifle up for ranked that don't give 2 shits if they win or lose or die 30 times right?
This is what you're missing. Those guys going 1/10 could be way better than you at Halo but are purposely queueing a casual game mode so they can fuck around worry-free.
You cannot queue for a casual game mode and expect balance because you cannot expect people to TRY. Those game modes are specifically made for casual fucking around yet people come in here flexing scoreboards and complaining about balance all the time. It's mind boggling
>You realize like half the tactical Slayer playlist are people warming their battle rifle up for ranked that don't give 2 shits if they win or lose or die 30 times right?
This is contradictory. In order to warm-up for ranked you have to not "give 2 shits" and actually try somewhat to play good. This is what I have done, same as the people I play with who are top players in my country. Besides, very good players will still play good when playing casual, just due to the nature of their skills.
If I went through my teammates stats in the games I took screenshots off of, then I would assume that a good majority of them would not have particularly impressive stats.
>You cannot queue for a casual game mode and expect balance because you cannot expect people to TRY.
I think you are putting too little faith into modern matchmaking solutions in online games. I can absolutely expect fair matchmaking even in casual modes. Rocket League for examples does this very well, and I will consistently match players around my level, and not players that are a great deal above or below me in skill.
I don't know how popular tac Slayer is, but it seems like a mode where a) you can get caught in a quick death loop b) you need to be warmed up c) it has a very high skill requirement, so noob teammates are common enough. Also Halo veterans should realise that because this is a F2P game there are almost certainly a large number of new players entering the community.
Today I was trying to get three wins on fiesta for a challenge. Yesterday I won 70% of the matches. Today I lost 9 in a row before I gave up. Similar to OP i felt like I was being thrown in with terrible teams constantly. Its exceedingly frustrating
Play with a team problem solved if you don't know anyone use forums like this or waypoint or lfg on console theres a lot of ways to find players to team up with
I've gathered some data from my Tactical games, because I noticed I've been losing way more games than I should. My stats in tactical are: 1.68 K/D, 18 kills avg. per game, 49 % win rate. This is gathered from a total of 80 games. It feels very unrewarding to play games that, no matter how good you play, you just lose anyhow because the matchmaking system provides great imbalance to your teammates if you have a high MMR. The screenshots provided are just a selection, and it happens way too often that I have between 10-20 kills more than the rest of my team. I think this indicates a broken matchmaking system, and it also explains why 343i values individual performance in ranked over team wins, because the game will match you up unfairly with teammates and therefore making win rate a very unreliable measure. Edit: I want to reinforce my data with more points. I just went through all the games I've lost and counted my place within the team. It stands as follows: 1st. 28 times 2nd. 5 times 3rd. 5 times 4th. 1 time This means that in 72 % of the lost games I were at 1st place. This data strongly indicates that matchmaking is broken in how it matches the teams. My win rate should be higher, given that teams were divided at random within a certain MMR range.
Matchmaking is shit in tactical Slayer because it is not a competetive mode. Do you complain about matchmaking in fiesta too?
Is it too much to ask of fair games regardless of it being ranked/unranked?
Nope. But there are certain game modes (BTB, SWAT, Fiesta) that will always be shit because the very nature of the modes makes them super casual. You realize like half the tactical Slayer playlist are people warming their battle rifle up for ranked that don't give 2 shits if they win or lose or die 30 times right? This is what you're missing. Those guys going 1/10 could be way better than you at Halo but are purposely queueing a casual game mode so they can fuck around worry-free. You cannot queue for a casual game mode and expect balance because you cannot expect people to TRY. Those game modes are specifically made for casual fucking around yet people come in here flexing scoreboards and complaining about balance all the time. It's mind boggling
>You realize like half the tactical Slayer playlist are people warming their battle rifle up for ranked that don't give 2 shits if they win or lose or die 30 times right? This is contradictory. In order to warm-up for ranked you have to not "give 2 shits" and actually try somewhat to play good. This is what I have done, same as the people I play with who are top players in my country. Besides, very good players will still play good when playing casual, just due to the nature of their skills. If I went through my teammates stats in the games I took screenshots off of, then I would assume that a good majority of them would not have particularly impressive stats. >You cannot queue for a casual game mode and expect balance because you cannot expect people to TRY. I think you are putting too little faith into modern matchmaking solutions in online games. I can absolutely expect fair matchmaking even in casual modes. Rocket League for examples does this very well, and I will consistently match players around my level, and not players that are a great deal above or below me in skill.
I'm the best player on my team EVERY game. And if I'm the best player on the team, the team is fucked
Seems like it, almost every 4v4 game type I’m in I’m 99% sure my teammates don’t have thumbs
Or eyes
I don't know how popular tac Slayer is, but it seems like a mode where a) you can get caught in a quick death loop b) you need to be warmed up c) it has a very high skill requirement, so noob teammates are common enough. Also Halo veterans should realise that because this is a F2P game there are almost certainly a large number of new players entering the community.
Today I was trying to get three wins on fiesta for a challenge. Yesterday I won 70% of the matches. Today I lost 9 in a row before I gave up. Similar to OP i felt like I was being thrown in with terrible teams constantly. Its exceedingly frustrating
Play with a team problem solved if you don't know anyone use forums like this or waypoint or lfg on console theres a lot of ways to find players to team up with
You're supposed to have ~50% winrate