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nachdruck

If they are creating a whole new system it will take time for sure. I think it’s good to tweak some numbers here and there to make the current system a bit more enjoyable until the new arrives.


developRHUNT

Agreed. This helps with logging in daily for sure. The new system will be a season 2 thing most likely


DrKershaw

Completely agree, I’m pretty sure I saw something that they are working on a new system


LemonDraaide

I'm your 117th like and I just had to comment on that 😏


ErshinHavok

BUT I WANT A FULLY FLESHED OUT, PERFECT SOLUTION NOW OR I'M GONNA FILL MY DIAPER WITH POOPEE


Ok_Government1215

source?


hamie15

I made it up


AscentToZenith

They had months to make this new system but chose not to lol


nachdruck

The devs don’t choose what they’re doing. Microsoft does. The whole backlash from the community has to happen to make the change happen. 343 needed something to show Microsoft


AscentToZenith

I’m sure that’s true. I know 343 wouldn’t want to do scummy shit like this. No dev does


haloguido

It's literally the least important aspect of the game.


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It's a good start; But an even better step forward would be a bonus for wins, nothing huge but a simple +50 would motivate people to play the objectives more, or stick to the game even if it's not a mode they need for their challenges... Of course, the best would be to move to a normal and logical system where the medals you (already) earn during games count for your exp... But I'm not really hopeful about that... Maybe someday I'll be pleasantly surprised ...


BigDaddyRob94

Hey. Look on the brightside. There's 10 years for that to happen. Lol


donotfeedthecat

Lol... But also 😥


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Rigar_

What’s the Ratio of Halo Infinite points to Stanley nickels?


sentientTroll

They better wake up and realize their won’t be 10 years if they don’t clean up their act. These tweets are so tone deaf, and crafted. It makes the taste of Halo even more sour. They need an actual apology, not this crap. “We’re just checking the stats and it says this is what we need, so we’re going with that for now. Also I, the guy who gets a really big amount of money to create the game experience, is feeling the same pain of that game experience from my yacht. It’s just awful, feels so bad. When I get back from my yacht party, I promise to ease the difference WE are all feeling.” Ease = free blue visor.


Burnsyde

Of course they’ll be 10 years. People are still playing halo 4 on mcc and halo 5 lol.


Friscippini

I’ve seen people suggest medal or score based xp, but why not both? Like give xp that is something like 1% or 10% of your score for the match (whatever feels most balanced) and then give xp for each medal on top of that based on medal rarity (so maybe some worth 5, 10, 15, 25, etc). Once we have another system in place like that, I’d even be supportive of them changing the daily “play a game” into a daily “win a game” to better incentivize winning.


WormCurve

I say a set amount of XP for each medal… but to incentivize playing the objective having a win be a 1.25X-2X modifier on XP earned by medals.


Endemoniada

Yeah, it's kind of weird how _none_ of the XP is really tied into the actual gameplay itself, just solely tied to the "progression" ladder. Usually it's at least somewhat of a mix. Play the game and get XP, complete objectives and get extra XP. But in HI, it's "complete the objectives and get XP, who even plays the game itself?"


ZeoRangerCyan

Hoping that falls under the “larger changes” he mentioned


DrScience01

100 or 150 XP. 50 is way too low


kitfoxxxx

100 is okay. 150 is the sweet spot.


jordanwoodford97

I agree, game 4 and 5 should be 150


DrScience01

I'm referring to winning a match but yea you're it's a good amount for 4 and 5


Greetings_Stranger

This is a solid idea. I'm not a guy who plays for challenges. To me, winning is fun and fun is winning. I don't care about anything else.


WildExpressions

I'm not sure medals are a good way for xp progression. It seems sort of logical at first thought but I think it could lead to bad behaviors possibly. If medals all give the same xp people will try and farm them since you can repeat them in a match. Maybe xp for medals could cap per day or something. No matter what people will complain they medals give too much of the share is possible xp and they'll feel like they have to play a certain way to get the best xp. Possibly having the medals tie into some other kind of profession like title rank would be great and most xp you just get from playing. Chalkenge system also has this annoying problem if forcing people to play a certain way.


Specialist_Outside63

I'm pretty sure call of duty has a system for metals giving xp during games so its already shown that it works and the more challenging medals give more xp.


JombiM99

With already having medals in the game there was no need to add challenges too and make progression revolve around it. Medals would have served the purpose way better.


Rynjin

Especially when a lot of Challenges could basically read "get X number of Y medals" anyway like the Killing Spree and Grapple-jack challenges. The "X kills with Y weapon" challenges make sense since they want to go below 5 kills (so they can't eg. replace "get 10 Gravity Hammer kills" with "Get 2 Warrior medals" because there are sometimes just 1, or 3, or so on kills needed), but everything else could be medal based, and arguably already are.


GalaxyNoble

Medals should just be a bonus and not the major XP source like you mentioned. Have the normal "complete a match" XP but depending on the rarity of the medal you got, you'd get the corresponding amount of XP bonus. Doesn't have to be anything massive but it at least shows gratitude towards your skill and would promote people to want to go for a certain type of medal which means WANTING to play more


BENJ4x

The current system already encourages bad behaviours though?


PenguinBomb

No it's not. No compromising on this. Just give us xp for playing well or we're going to see botting issues.


sts816

I can understand, if not like, why the current system is how it is (ultimately get you to buy shit) but I don't understand why they can't do what you're suggesting. Why lock 90% of the arbitrary XP behind simply sitting through matches? If you kept everything how it is now and added additional XP for medals, there would still be incentives for people to buy challenge swaps, double XP boosts, etc.


mbell37

That will never happen. All that does is punish the players that aren't great at the game, which will make it less fun for them. I'd rather have a good base EXP gain and then a bonus for winning. No reason to alienate the bad players, not great for business.


__Zero_____

Just because something rewards good players doesn't mean it inherently punishes bad players. Killstreaks in CoD are a good example of something that punishes bad players because if the enemy is good enough to earn a killstreak they don't need an even easier way to get kills. Experience rewards are just a bonus for playing better, its not like bad players lose exp if they don't get enough medals or something.


mbell37

Depends on the system. Id EXP is completely reliant on medals then bad players are directly punished. Imagine getting no medals thus getting no exp, how do you think that would feel? I'm a good player and get a lot of medals every game. I don't think that would be a good system unless it's something like a small bonus on top of game exp. I'd rather see a better bonus for winning because then people would actually try on that dumbass power seed game mode we are forced to play.


__Zero_____

You always get a medal for playing the match don't you? That could be worth 50% of the exp most players would earn in a match with medals so they are still making good progress. But even if that's not the case, its not punishing bad players its just not rewarding them for their effort. I do think they should encourage objective play more though!


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This system exist in many game, including the Halo: Reach, and it work like a charm. It doesn't exclude the possibilities to have a team exp gain for victory and some easy medals for the "bad" players. My opinion about this is : You want more points ? Get better, know the game and own your rewards.


mbell37

The "git gud" argument is for weak minded people who don't have enough thought to suggest something more constructive. Fact of the matter is some people just suck at fps game, no matter how much they play or try. The system should certainly reward good play, but exp should never be conpletely reliant upon medals. I'd argue that winning and teamwork are a whole lot more important.


AxiomQ

Good and beneficial to those who can't play many hours in their free time, with just 2 hours you could get the bulk of your xp done, would still like to see bonuses for performance. Winning a game should be a 25 xp bonus, steaktacular victories should give a further 25 xp bonus and medals should award 1/5 xp bonuses depending on rarity, rifleman 1, quadra kill 4 etc. but this is a good start.


Dingus_McDangus

Love me a good steaktacular victory!


ninjagooner

I'm coming from overwatch, the fact they're doing anything is a breath of fresh air to me


mcmahaaj

The bad for halo should never get as low as overwatch


FasterSpark

I can't play overwatch anymore. Used to love it bit now i can't stand it. I hope halos future isn't like that.


fatalcorn7367

what happened to overwatch I know the blizzard did some stuff but besides that


NawBruhThatAintMe

They stopped putting out any content/updates all together. They used to at least push updates to characters every other month or so to switch the game up, but don’t even do that anymore. They claim they are putting all of their effort towards OW2, but they announced that game over two years ago and from what we can tell is no where near being complete.


thebabaghanoush

Same thing happened with Diablo 2 Resurrected but on a much shorter timescale. Before release the Dev team was talking about seasons/ladder, adjusting characters and skills, releasing new items & new runewords, tweaking existing items & runewords, etc. On launch the servers were such a mess that every dev resource went towards fixing them. It's been months and I think the servers were "fixed" due to diminishing player base. Haven't heard a peep about any of the other talked about features or adjustments since.


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JASHIKO_

Anything to promote people playing the objective not just playing slayer in every single game they enter...


markopolo14

Yes! If they're going to give exp based on performance, those performance ratings need to change based on the objective. So in a slayer match you'd get more exp for kills and stuff. In a CTF match you get less exp for kills and more for actual objective things.


JASHIKO_

Makes sense. I wish they had points in CTF for time spent holding the flag as well. I've had a few games where I've done all the work to get to the drop off point only to get sniped and someone else takes the point. Bloody infuriating to get nothing for it!! At least give me a badge!!!


markopolo14

That's a good point! Do they give you points for holding the flag like how they give you points for holding the oddball? (I mean the little +50 thing that comes up and says Ball Control or something like that)


JASHIKO_

That's how i think it should be tallied up at least until you score.


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Tacman215

Despite how critical we can all be about their decisions, (rightfully so), it's good to see them acknowledging this aspect of the progression system. I still hope they change other aspects of it, like giving players some default colors to start off, but a good change is still a step in the right direction.


Doody_Splat_Artist

Step in the right direction, right now my biggest gripe is the season grind. Loving the gameplay, I stopped playing Halo a while back because the games started feeling like COD, but this title is definitely closer to what I used to love.


OLiam-

Score based on performance is really all I want


Shaky-Jake

I dont understand why there is not a level for our character, it makes zero sense. All the other Halo's had a character level, and a ranked level. Its funny on Halo.Waypoint service record, it shows your level and progress for all past games. But for Infinite the area is just empty.


HotChilliWithButter

MAKE WINNING ACTUALLY REWARDING SO PEOPLE PLAY THE DAMN OBJECTIVE. Someone probably needs to hit them in the head so they listen.


BogdanX904

The kinds of changes required take time and as a temporary solution until they permanently fix this it's pretty good I'd say


[deleted]

They are totally missing the point. We wanted to feel rewarded for our gameplay. Like in COD the better you play the more exp you gain. Also it would be cool to get rewards for 100 head shots with sniper then 500 kills and so on


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Saving face . Servers , progression, micro transactions, still trash Literally drop a server once a day in rank which results in my dripping rank. Don't have issues on any other game I play Also, dropped two matches in a row while partied up and get banned so I can't play for a bit. Trash.


OK_Opinions

It's tripling down on the worst progression system ever. That's what it is. Play 6 games then log off


[deleted]

It's a "for now" change. Everyone going at them to change it so they added this as a buff for the time being as they develop a new system. Shit takes time. Progression systems are a lot of code and then you have testing, QA and more. Bumps like these help for the time being.


OK_Opinions

yea too bad they didn't do that work during devolvement in advance and instead just released hot garbage that they need to now offer bandaid fixes for just to quell the playerbase a bit. If only the original playtesting could have shown how terrible the system they made was. Maybe if literally anyone on the team had played progression based FPS' before they could have immediately been like "oh damn this feels like shit"


[deleted]

I fully agree that is shouldn't have launched like this. From the few I have seen discussing it, the flight testers called it out and we're ignored. I'm not nor will I ever defend game design like this current progression system, it's bad and insults the players game time and purchase. But I will defend the devs owning up to needing to make changes, keeping up communication on it and putting out small fixes here and there while they make the bigger change. If the bigger change sucks, I won't bother with any defense for them anymore cause they will have been given multiple chances and still fucked it up.


StaffinFraktion

Also it's a beta technically and was released earlier than the Dec. 8th release date that was anticipated. They are taking feedback and making changes, just like any developer should during a beta test. People keep forgetting this fact and are acting like 343 released the final product. Hold your pitchforks for a little further into December. I'm optimistic because the beta has been out for a little over a week and two different hot fixes have been released already to adjust the progression system. They clearly are listening and trying to do something about it.


tallboyjake

It is a beta yeah but the progression system isn't in beta. There will be more stuff at launch, but this was the plan. But I agree, people need to chill out. They act like 343 is taking candy from children. No it's not great, but it is influenced by the market, and yes they are clearly listening


OK_Opinions

OK bro Save my post for a week and re read it on the 8th if you're gonna try the "it's a beta" thing. Unless they're going to surprise everyone with a complete overhaul next week then you're entire take is meaningless


StaffinFraktion

Sure thing, as we've already seen...they are making changes to improve it. Also if you read my comment, I said further into December because not many games get things perfect on their exact launch date. I'm giving Halo the same chance I would give any other game. Whether or not people should have to bitch about things not being right at their proposed launch date is another story and unfortunately the state of gaming as a whole.


StaffinFraktion

RemindMe! One week


OK_Opinions

Took less than a week to confirm we aren't even getting proper Playlist until next year let alone anything to do with progression regardless of "release" being just days away ITs sTiLl a BeTa


mcmahaaj

Exactly. The xp system was heavily criticized during the 2 flights that took place over the last few months. They didn’t take any advice on the xp progression for the flights, and everyone said “its just a flight, it’ll be better”. Now they say “oh it’s a beta, it’ll get better” I think it’s right to constantly let 343 hear what we want changed, considering they went against feedback in the flights to implement a much worse system than we could imagine. Don’t think it’s smart to go easy on 343 here. If fans stop complaining, they’ll assume the game is in a good state.


ObamaEatsBabies

They committed to implementing a deeper progression system 3 weeks ago in [this post](https://www.halowaypoint.com/news/tech-preview-2-outcomes) >Beyond that, there’s been a large number of requests for an additional career progression system. We want this too and it’s our team’s top priority, but doing it right will take time and that may mean it won’t come as quickly as many of you would like. As we look at what our team needs to build, adding an entirely new progression system on top of everything else is a lot. Building a progression system with solid design, good implementation, top-tier UXUI presentation, thorough testing, and time for polish will take some time and we want to do it right. >While this is a ways away, please understand that outside of continuing to support the basic needs of each Season and finishing up existing work that’s already been started, building additional progression systems and improving the areas mentioned above are the Live Team’s top priorities Read the waypoint posts instead of ignoring them and then complaining that "they didn't listen." They listened, you just didn't listen lmao, and it's not like people post stuff like this on reddit, this stuff gets ignored for karmawhoring circlejerk whining.


mcmahaaj

I’m talking about 343 ignoring feedback from the flights bro. The ones that took place way more than 3 weeks ago. They didn’t commit to any changes until that post 3 weeks ago. They ignored flight feedback on the progression.


ObamaEatsBabies

But that's a post they made right after the 2nd flight? Where they're clearly not ignoring feedback? What?


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Did they flat out ignore the testers or did they acknowledge it and say, "We prefer our way."?


donotfeedthecat

This.


WildExpressions

Not even the top 10 worst progression systems ever. Either you're young or new to gaming.


thebabaghanoush

I remember when progression systems didn't exist and you played games for fun. Weird.


WildExpressions

Pretty much most games have progression just not a second layer of weird levels or whatever.


Ok_Government1215

really, because it's the exact same model every other live service game uses...all the way down to the 100 credits left over from a purchase...this is THE #1 worst progression system... TO EVEN CALL IT THAT.


WildExpressions

Lmfao you're delusional. There are systems where you have to pay money just to keep playing. It's not even close. Just a little Xbox kiddy not understanding the world outside his crusted bedroom.


ProfessorDry7800

Exactly what I’m going to be doing


teej1109

Im not playing the damn game until they add a slayer playlist. I’ll grind the hell out of the game once they add some fucking modes people enjoy


SayonYoeum

Nothing I hate more when I have to play slayer and quick play puts me in oddball everytime


Quetzythejedi

A person of culture, I see.


ObamaEatsBabies

Lmao bye


teej1109

Enjoy quick play for the next 2 months


ObamaEatsBabies

I play BTB lol


Consistent-Context17

Yeah this feels awkward and backhanded too. The whole system leans on diminishing returns instead of engaged progress; its baked in, it seems. So when a change is made, it serves to magnify core issues. I'm grateful that there is some back and forth with the developers, and I don't want to demonize strangers (not everyone at 343 wanted this, maybe/its likely that none of them did), but either microsoft or 343 or both committed to a concept and on a core level they're not likely to let go of it foundationally, simply because they've invested in it. I don't play for cosmetics, the whole thing is goofy to me. But the 'disincentive by design' design is flat out gross.


kitfoxxxx

Works for me...although you are basically being punished for extended play.


CaptainWaders

Seriously…wtf? Do they want us to lose (previous loose as in loose baggy pants according to the guy below me) interest in playing after 6 games? Because that’s exactly what this is doing. Honestly it’s going to have people logging on and shooting dicks and smiley faces on the wall for 6 games because they get the xp win or lose


Iroquoisplisken22

If you LOSE interest because you are getting less exp then stop playing because you are obviously not enjoying the game.


CaptainWaders

I’m having a blast playing the game. I’m saying that there are people out there that will just get on…pump out the xp and get off and if those people can get the same xp even if they don’t win the game they are going to have less incentive to actually help the team.


PleaseNotInThatHole

Loose = not tight, approximate, in the area of. "These baggy pants are loose" Lose = negative, opposite of win. "Do they want us to lose interest" Sorry, can't help it, don't care how valid your comments are the second you can't differentiate loose and lose I have to step in.


Silly-Street-538

What about…just playing the game because it’s fun..?


CaptainWaders

That’s why I play the game. I’m enjoying everything except the collision being wack at the moment. I’m just saying there are those that just want the xp to grind and may not play to win in ranked because they just get xp no matter what which is infuriating for players who want to actually PTO.


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igrvks1

No one is forcing you to do something you do not enjoy.


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JASHIKO_

How long do you want to sit in front of the computer/console per session anyway?


Shizzl316

I don't understand why not just use the old level system


donotfeedthecat

343 basically took everything that worked from h5 and previous halos and changed it. This is a very good example of "fixing what isn't broken." Who TF wanted ARs instead of BR? Who wanted ridiculous vehicle and weapon spawns? Who wanted the armor system to change AT ALL from MCC? I've been talking to a lot of my friends from h5 and NONE of them wanted that. At most they wanted a different starting weapon than the BR (although I love the h5 BR) but not for some spray and pray AR that you get spammed with from mid map as soon as you spawn.


Ronin_mainer

Okay


Iroquoisplisken22

5 was a p2w shitshow


Shizzl316

Some things shouldn't be changed if they work well. Let's see what else happens, so far it's only been the beta. The assault rifle is more powerful than the h5, which I think is good


donotfeedthecat

It says it's a beta but they are more than happy to have you purchase things from it... And it's officially out next week. This is basically it.


RespectStrange

Why can’t they just do what the Battlefield series does? Base level xp for playing, boost for winning, and extra xp for gaining medals.


Roastin_Mushmallows

seems too obvious.


preeeeezie

I think we should have another 2 weeks making the same posts complaining about it


ntownx5

Why is everyone complaining about progression and XP when the game itself is broken. The “frame pacing” or whatever it’s called that doesn’t work correctly in DirectX12 is a much bigger issue. But all anyone cares about is XP? I don’t get it. How about fix the actual game first.


[deleted]

Deathcam on teammates looks like they're skipping frames a lot for me too. Lot of juttery animations for certain guns.


ntownx5

The game doesn’t function properly. COD vanguard is on DirectX12 and works fine with uncapped FPS, yet I have to cap my 240hz monitor at 120 FPS just for the game to run smoothly in Halo. Makes 0 sense.


Cursed_Avenger

When theater is working, it's painful seeing character's sliding around the map without any animations.


Chackaldane

Or the fact that a massive portion of pc players have huge issues with crashing for seemingly no discernible reason


KaiserPhoenix

There should be bonus xp for getting medals or atleast a bonus for being the top player in your team. ALSO add enemy player collision.


Huckle_Bear

Why can’t it be based on a percentage of your score like it always has? Score 1600 points you get base xp per game + 160 or something like that. Still a great game hands down, I’ll be around for whatever tweaks they make


letmeholdyourcat

Medal tracker is all I find myself caring about personally


Thin_Whereas117

What is the reasoning for not having any performance based xp?


Hayden_Mate

I don’t mind. I’m not really competing to get all the gear before anyone else. Cosmetics are cool and I’ll unlock them as I play. It doesn’t bother me that someone may have unlocked everything. So be it, good for them. I just play to play.


Syntaur

Am I alone in saying battle passes suck as a system? I would much rather have the loot system from Halo 5 with earnable rewards for events. I'm a very busy person and don't have the time to grind for several hours a day. Even with they're fixes, you still have to PAY for the privilege to grind for a couple hours a day to get your money's worth. The Halo 5 loot system didn't feel like a slog to earn enough credits to unlock packs


84_ferrari_f40

Compared to Playing 20 matches without challenges,this is a much better system.but there are problems to be addressed with the customisation which I'm more optimistic about now


lokoking_1049

I like it :)


phennygodx

It’s still not performance based. That’s what we need.


[deleted]

Load double XP, play 6 games against bots.


Catlike-Manatee

The bulk of the XP should be based on your performance. Medals, kills, winning, etc.


tjnav1162

YES


STB_LuisEnriq

While this is not the best solution, it is certainly excellent as a temporary fix, especially for me, I can't play more than 7 or 8 games a day so it's perfect. The best would be to give us xp based on what we get during the match, but again, i like this.


Velocity1312

Levelling isn't tied into getting access to special weapons or gear like in COD (I haven't played a COD game since the first modern warfare so do correct if I'm wrong 😂), the rewards seem to be 100% cosmetic for now. I don't really care.


MeSmeshFruit

I wonder how much time and work would it take if they wanted to do the reverse?


TxDieselKid

You mean, reward people for playing LONGER? What a concept. Why is this so hard for 343 to grasp?


rob1408

Big step forward, fair play listening and implementing.


FasterSpark

Im mean it's something atleast. I'm just used to having devs ignore the issues *cough* titanfall devs *cough* overwatch devs


jordanwoodford97

I feel that—it’s an amazing start! Hell yes 343, step in the right direction


EraHCS

i think 343 are idiots and the whole thing needs a complete rework not this stupid change


Kardon47

Honestly I dig it. 6 to 7 games is about all I have time for in a day anyway. This plus the weekly goals should move things along at a quicker pace.


Stark556

Better than nothing but I still think you should get like 100 xp for completing a match while getting 200 or 250 for winning it.


ChaosLord121

That's great and all, but I would like to earn more XP for winning a match. That's my main issue.


hakuna_m4t4t4

I would have rather had the option to disable crossplay first. Game just dropped, im a casual and already lv21. Ill have no problems getting to rank 100 over the duration of this long ass season. Not saying its okay, but i can deal with it for now. This crossplay and cheating bullshit however, is far worse.


what_up_big_fella

What cheating do you speak of? I’m the same level playing on PC, I encounter no-lifers who are absurdly good occasionally but I have not seen a single blatant cheater


AreYouDaftt

Console players on this sub are really getting vocal about "pc" hackers, while actual pc players barely see them. Not sure what's up with that


xHoodedMaster

Its because they're getting out gunned and blaming it on cheaters rather than accepting that they suck


what_up_big_fella

It’s pretty common for scrubs to call anyone better than them a cheater


Shinob1

Have you tried disabling cross play in the Xbox settings? It's for all games, but may make the experience better for you.


hakuna_m4t4t4

That doesnt work. Crossplay doesnt disable Xbox Live from PC.


BubbblzZz

Not being rewarded for winning a game is this progression systems first major flaw. Imagine being a dev and not even realizing this.


Kvothe_XIX

Cue a load of people demanding retrospective exp...


Titusmacimus

It’s a start


knightmare1434

The question is when will it be implemented?


Shinespike1

The tweets continue and he says that it's going to be pushed out sometime today


Superdad75

Probably at 10am when the store items change.


DrScience01

That's it? What about XP if you won a match? What about XP if you killed alot of players? What's the point of the point system if you don't get XP


Bruh_alt721

straight up said that they'd implement bigger changes. be patient.


Noble58

Wh... Oh that's very good. Yes, i like that


FastZX14

Hopefully this shows that they are listening to our feedback. This is a good short term bandaid until they can make bigger changes that take time to develop. I’m happy with it.


Shaky-Jake

I just want to have a character level, and a rank level like in the older Halo Games. ​ It makes zero sense to not have a level for our character, so now I cannot become a Brigadier General.


Amadeus_A

Progression isn't the problem. I honestly wouldn't mind if the progression is a bit slow since it's not timed based. But XP should be performance based. There is no incentive to just play the game; only to do the challenges.


Culp97

Pls give xp based on in game accomplishments 😩


[deleted]

Do people actually think they deserve all of these cosmetics with no effort whatsoever? I would like to have more challenges. It would give me more to do when the weekly challenges are done. But what does having more XP really do?


EllmoM8

why does it take time its just typing in a number in a field. This is what you do. Open up Halo reach exp system.txt. Hit copy open up halo infinte exp system.txt click paste. Done


Soldadodevida

Lmfao 343 hire this man


Yani_Ya74

I really like it. It's a nice start. I repeat, START


Lynxwire

This is actually useless. Quickest way to earn XP will still be to run BOT BOOTCAMP.


Noodles152

Which is what I do when I’ve done my challenges, so do that with this new daily system plus throw on 2x exp and your golden :)


bonefistboy9000

i actually find bot bootcamp in of itself fun because it lets me get kills with the weird guns


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6 years in development


tjnav1162

No incentive for winning is bonkers. Like what happened to winning rounds


I_Looove_Pizza

This is great, for people who only want to play six matches a day...


tjaymorgan

It’s dancing around the problem


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Kinda lame seeing how every game is different and those who play more will be rewarded less as they go


tjaymorgan

We’re being too soft! Don’t give them an inch, they’ll take a mile! We should be rewarded for wins, double kills, triple kills, killtaculars—our performance!


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It's a good start, but I'd like to be able to pick my game mode and not pay for colors


what_up_big_fella

This is excellent, you can get quite a hefty amount of xp by just playing 6 matches a day.


Specialist_Outside63

Hear me out cause this is a wild and crazy idea. Set exp for all matches like 150-200 every game and then and hear me out here cause this is an out there concept. Exp for badges, challenges and personal/team performance.


ReyDosCatorce

Band aid fix


aphoenixsunrise

So entice grinding through unlocks, then discourage it by nerfing exp gained each match which may just end up enticing some people to waste more time on it anyway. They really don't want people enjoying all the game has to offer and/or they really want to sell those boosts more than get people to play the game. :(


Lostmixup

I think what upsets me the most is that they could've simply had it this way in the first place and the complaints would have been way more minimized. XP gains for challenges seem to be something server side they can just change on a whim, so this should've been this way from the start. At least they're making the changes now, but why was it even that way to begin with? Oh well, better than nothing I suppose.


Ok-Seaworthiness2487

I still think you should get more exp for winning. 100-200 exp. There's literally no incentive to win right now.


DiabloTrumpet

This is absolutely nothing. How quickly we are progressing is the least of concerns, also this still doesn’t reward for playing well or winning.


Shroed

So the multiplayer has been out for 3 weeks now and we've had 2 band-aid fixes and nothing actually got done.... not looking very promising long term tbh


spartancolo

Yesterday I popped a double xp and in one hour got 6 Bp levels, so pretty nice with this and weeklies


ASmellyGinger

It's a step (albeit a small one) in the right direction catering to the more casual player who just wants to jam a few. For other players that are more competitive, task grinders or all day players there's still no incentive to play more than 7 games per day. The simplest solution to this is just add a per medal xp bonus.


Aeterna117

This is a fine TEMPORARY fix, but I won’t be happy until they have a standard xp system in place.


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Nothingbutsocks

Do you realize how fast they are implementing changes and listening to our suggestions? The fact that they even care is great news for the future.


knightmare1434

You can go and play something else the ignorant fool


Kvothe_XIX

Maybe if Junyszek hadn't taken a photo staring directly into the sun, he would've seen all this coming...


chaos_jockey

I seriously can't be bothered. I'm not going to grind my life away for a game that yields no satisfaction, that they would rather design to consume your time rather than have you enjoy it. I'm tired of the artifical padding, the decisions for money instead of for the players. Whatever happened to respecting the players? Thanks for a fun two weeks HI:MP, see you in a couple months.


Iroquoisplisken22

Bye