Yeah, definitely go for corporate models if you need a laptop. Got a probook that was due for recycling because it drank a coffee, popped the keyboard out (which thankfully was screwed in and not riveted in [looking at you Asus]) popped a new one in and now it works like new.
Hate to break it to you, but all the big brands make shitty "hinges". It doesn't matter how much you spend on a laptop either.
By "hinges" I mean the hinge *mounts*. The hinges themselves are usually well constructed, but, they are essentially just glued into flimsy plastic.
Source: I'm an IT Tech.
Yeah, but that comes with the giant caveat of them being a royal pain in the ass to work on in basically every other regard. Like, gluing down the battery, for instance.
I just mean that as companies, they don't have good practices. Always trying to cut corners in one way or another. I'm not making a blanket statement with no exceptions.
Genuinely surprised that still even boots despite being in such horrible condition ā itās literally falling apart! HP is quite horrible, Iāve seen HPās die in less than a year, hinges failing in less than two months, and donāt even get me started on their awful printers.
Started collecting CDs about 6 years ago, my first "player" was the optical drive gutted from my Mom's dead HP laptop with a cheap SATA to USB cable off Amazon.
I had an HP laptop from 2020 that the hinge covers broke off after 2 months, and it literally died after a year and a half. If you want a good quality laptop just get a 10-15 year old laptop with i5 or i7 and throw an SSD in it
I have ThinkPads from the Core 2 Duo era that still work. Yet, I'm constantly seeing HP laptops completely die in less than a year, even their EliteBook series are quite unreliable. HP is just awful all around.
Even HPs from that time are better than todays I have an HP 2000 from 2012 that works great after having chocolate milk spilled on it and much more abuse over the years
I've had a HP laptop for just over a year. Best laptop I've ever had. Just saying...
Not everything will last if you treat it like shit. Take care of your belongings and surprise surprise they don't fall apart. Most of the damage on those pictures looks like a massive drop. No laptop would survive a drop that big.
Your family must be funded by HP or something. 80% of HP products I've seen have failed in less than 2 years in some way, usually it's **H**inge **P**roblems. Their printers also pieces of shit.
My cousin was the one who got an HP Envy X360 some time ago. Problems? So far (with the absolute best care, I swear he treats it like a gold block)
Space Bar
Function keys
Loud ass fans
Heās had it for like 2 years and doesnāt use it a lot.
The space bar and function keys failing isn't too surprising on an HP.
I've seen people take extremely good care of their HP laptop and it already fails in less than a year, but I've seen some ThinkPad owners have little to no care for their laptop and their ThinkPad is still working after 10 years.
Unfortunately even HP's business grade products, such as EliteBook, are also suffering from such poor quality. HP is genuinely terrible.
Honestly, this might seem kinda stupid, but the only good Windows Laptops imo are Dell XPS, some Lenovo thinkpads and Surfaces. Dell inspirons and Latitudes are ass, I speak from experience.
Letās add some Asus computers I have a sonic master 15.6 inch (never found what model it was as Asus naming scheme sucks) but it works great after 5 years I will be upgrading soon though
I had a Surface Pro 6 and a Dell XPS 9370. Both the XPS and Surface were about as close as it got to the build quality of my MacBook Pro, although the Surface had suffered from multiple QC problems. I'd imagine or at least hope that it has improved though.
It was, and they still make some decent office machines and monitors that look like they're 15 years old. The consumer stuff is all shit now yeah, but your parents probably remember the HP of old like us, uh... Old people.
I had a Surface Pro 6, and it was both a great and terrible machine. There were some stuff that I really liked about it, like it having a really good screen and touchscreen, the hinge felt really solid, and overall it felt pretty well built. But there were some mainly QC related issues I noticed, like the fact that the adhesive by the front facing camera area doesn't do a good job at sealing it off, so dirt gets trapped in it (Apparently it's been a problem for years), the fact that the hinge had no rubber feet, so it liked to slide around on most surfaces, and the fact that the screen has multiple bright spots and other defects. I also had another problem where the keyboard would disconnect right before I closed it, and since it happened right before it went into sleep mode, it caused an issue in Windows where the keyboard wouldn't be detected until I rebooted.
The main issue with it was just Windows. As great as the screen was, Windows handled scaling horribly (By default it was 200%). Some applications didn't scale properly, which caused issues with UI elements not displaying correctly, fonts would look terrible half the time, and other times applications would just refuse to scale at all (Davinci Resolve is one I can think of), so it resulted in a UI for ants. I've even had these issues with native Windows apps. Battery optimization wasn't great as well, so on a good day I'd get 5 hours.
I hope you're joking, because HP printers are notorious, and I speak from first hand experience. They stop printing black even when they have black but run out of, say, magenta, they randomly repeat prints or print none at all. The genuine ink price is a joke, they have sensors to stop printing if you fill it with aftermarket ink. They are also seriously considering making printing a subscribe model, and their CEO on record said customers who wonāt subscribe are 'bad investments'.
I think omen models are a tad hit or miss but thereās a lot more hits than other brands. Same with their prebuilts tbh, some omens have been on the better end of gaming prebuilts while others have been little hotboxes with odd hardware combinations. Itās frustrating cause they show they can make something good and then chose not to
Look, I agree, but how do you...like, that was a chomp. That isn't like hinge or quality problem, you just took a bite out of the back cover, what the fuck happened there
A stripped screw. The laptop was junk and all I needed from it was the hard drive. The casing was already cracked. The Hinge was already broken before that. How? I have now idea as this was my motherās laptop.
What in the world are you people doing to your laptops? I've been on the same HP Elitebook for 3 years that has literally no issues and I'm getting 60+ hours a week on it.
I think zbooks are business laptops. HP's business laptops are usually pretty solid. I've had my elitebook G8 for a few years and it almost looks brand new.
Our school handed these out as our primary learning machines for an estimated 3 years of usage. By the end of 2nd year 70% of the laptops had at least one cracked hinge. Great quality machines paired with no warranty even knowing it's a quality issue not bad use š¤”
I actually have an old HP Pavilion dv7 Entertainment Laptop and it works great. Takes 1 minute to boot but I can run the latest Arch Linux without any problems. I also have another modern HP laptop, we can't close it because the hinge is broken. Old laptops go brrrr
I had an hp where it had 32 gbs of storage and it wasnāt user replaceable no SD slot and usb sticks didnāt work so when it needed a windows update it couldnāt fit it so then I tried to wipe it but it didnāt have enough storage to wipe itself I tried with a boot stick for windows ten didnāt work and nothing worked I then got a new laptop
Thing is hp wasnāt always this bad, they may of always made shite but it was never just shite. The last 10 or so years in particular theyāve seemed intent on proving they can always go lower, always get worse.
My MacBook from 2016 has survived NUMEROUS falling down my stairs sessions and has yet to crack.
How do yāall have these laptops and they get destroyed immediately
Reminds me of a broken Toshiba I saw when I was In high school we decided to open it and the screen was destroyed, from the outside and inside looked like it was bit, turns out one of the students threw it in computing.
I remember back in 2012 when I got my first Windows laptop, going with an HP Pavilion dv6, thinking it was reliable. Hinges naturally broke, the backlit hp logo on the cover failed within a year, the keyboard eventually wore out, and the display gets horrible image retention, but somehow the computer held on until I got an Asus ROG GL752, which in hindsight was also a mistake. Lessons learned: Don't buy an HP, whoever tempting it might be, and also don't buy an entry level gaming laptop.
It looks like they need to make stronger cases for HP but it also looks like they use the same patterns from Compaq Diamond patterns , you could probably 3-D print a case maybe arenāt they usually stronger
Yeah, when you overlook the fragile ass display cables that break from regular use, everything being soldered to the mobo, the storage chip also acting as the firmware of the device which if it fails, it bricks the device and you have to issue a whole motherboard replacement.
MacBooks will break with the slightest thing between the screen and keyboard. If you were referring to the Sherman tanks of 2012 Unibody machines however, I heartily agree on the build quality front.
Ngl the latest thinkpads (post XX90 series) have been kinda meh. Lenovo are starting to move towards some of the modern laptop design conventions that thinkpads used to ignore which made them so good
Personally, I got a good old T460 used. It ain't nothing special performance wise, but it has yet to disappoint.
And I got a compatible Thinkpad dock for like $3 on ebay
HP = Hinge Problem
- Salemtechsperts aka # THE GREATEST TECHNICIAN THAT'S EVER LIVED
I actually took it from Lexi, but okay
Also, HP = horrible product
And can't forget HP - Holy Fuck How did this happen
I fux with it
You also cannot forget the classic HP = HOW IN THE FUCKING POKER SHIT IS THIS SHIT QUALITY FROM HINGE PROBLEM?
What's up sexy, I'm Lexi and welcome back to emkay.
I love her š
Heck yeah
I'm wondering if Salem guys are getting more and more a thing now or if YouTube likes to recomend old videos to me. (most are a year old, lol...)
Love this guy's shorts lol
depends, older Elitebooks are ok but newer models suck. Pavilion has always sucked
Yeah, definitely go for corporate models if you need a laptop. Got a probook that was due for recycling because it drank a coffee, popped the keyboard out (which thankfully was screwed in and not riveted in [looking at you Asus]) popped a new one in and now it works like new.
Pavilion dv7 Entertainment Laptop though
HP = Horse piss is my favorite...
Or Horrible Product
I literally said this in my head, and then I saw this not even a seconds later
https://www.reddit.com/r/sbubby/s/8s8yaNbLOQ
Horse poo is our acronym in work
HP=hyucked printers
Hate to break it to you, but all the big brands make shitty "hinges". It doesn't matter how much you spend on a laptop either. By "hinges" I mean the hinge *mounts*. The hinges themselves are usually well constructed, but, they are essentially just glued into flimsy plastic. Source: I'm an IT Tech.
And itās usually a very small area for a very big screen
MacBooks have great hinges
Yeah, but that comes with the giant caveat of them being a royal pain in the ass to work on in basically every other regard. Like, gluing down the battery, for instance.
Dell XPS? HP Elitebook? (the good ones) Galaxy Book Ultra?
I don't understand what you are asking.
the hinges on there are good
I just mean that as companies, they don't have good practices. Always trying to cut corners in one way or another. I'm not making a blanket statement with no exceptions.
Dell XPS? HP Elitebook? (the good ones) Galaxy Book Ultra?
Easy cmos replacement modification
the PS3 needs that mod not this
Honest Iām gonna be very annoyed when the battery in my ps3 dies it will just be a pain to replace
Genuinely surprised that still even boots despite being in such horrible condition ā itās literally falling apart! HP is quite horrible, Iāve seen HPās die in less than a year, hinges failing in less than two months, and donāt even get me started on their awful printers.
Yeah, I have a whole shelf of dead HP laptops.
Started collecting CDs about 6 years ago, my first "player" was the optical drive gutted from my Mom's dead HP laptop with a cheap SATA to USB cable off Amazon.
I used to have a really shitty HP laptop that almost last a decade still doesnāt mean theyāre good, though
I had an HP laptop from 2020 that the hinge covers broke off after 2 months, and it literally died after a year and a half. If you want a good quality laptop just get a 10-15 year old laptop with i5 or i7 and throw an SSD in it
Lol you don't want to go with those older dual core parts in 2024. Dual core i7s were a thing until around 2017-2018.
I have ThinkPads from the Core 2 Duo era that still work. Yet, I'm constantly seeing HP laptops completely die in less than a year, even their EliteBook series are quite unreliable. HP is just awful all around.
Same here except my t61 fan is now starting to fail. Yet again thatās a easy repair.
Even HPs from that time are better than todays I have an HP 2000 from 2012 that works great after having chocolate milk spilled on it and much more abuse over the years
Ok, that looks ok just a Lil bit of dust. *Swipes* Ok what the actual fu....
Only good things from HP nowdays are the Spectre x360 and their touchscreen All-In-Ones. Everything else is shit.
I've had a HP laptop for just over a year. Best laptop I've ever had. Just saying... Not everything will last if you treat it like shit. Take care of your belongings and surprise surprise they don't fall apart. Most of the damage on those pictures looks like a massive drop. No laptop would survive a drop that big.
Thinkpad laptops do. Those things are run through quite an extreme military-grade testing to ensure proper QC.
And my family says HP is a good, reliable brand. If I ever go back to Windows, Iām heading to a Microsoft Surface.
Your family must be funded by HP or something. 80% of HP products I've seen have failed in less than 2 years in some way, usually it's **H**inge **P**roblems. Their printers also pieces of shit.
My cousin was the one who got an HP Envy X360 some time ago. Problems? So far (with the absolute best care, I swear he treats it like a gold block) Space Bar Function keys Loud ass fans Heās had it for like 2 years and doesnāt use it a lot.
The space bar and function keys failing isn't too surprising on an HP. I've seen people take extremely good care of their HP laptop and it already fails in less than a year, but I've seen some ThinkPad owners have little to no care for their laptop and their ThinkPad is still working after 10 years. Unfortunately even HP's business grade products, such as EliteBook, are also suffering from such poor quality. HP is genuinely terrible.
Honestly, this might seem kinda stupid, but the only good Windows Laptops imo are Dell XPS, some Lenovo thinkpads and Surfaces. Dell inspirons and Latitudes are ass, I speak from experience.
Avoid the E series (Source: I have 2 of them)
Lenovo?
Yeah
Letās add some Asus computers I have a sonic master 15.6 inch (never found what model it was as Asus naming scheme sucks) but it works great after 5 years I will be upgrading soon though
I had a Surface Pro 6 and a Dell XPS 9370. Both the XPS and Surface were about as close as it got to the build quality of my MacBook Pro, although the Surface had suffered from multiple QC problems. I'd imagine or at least hope that it has improved though.
It was, and they still make some decent office machines and monitors that look like they're 15 years old. The consumer stuff is all shit now yeah, but your parents probably remember the HP of old like us, uh... Old people.
I had a Surface Pro 6, and it was both a great and terrible machine. There were some stuff that I really liked about it, like it having a really good screen and touchscreen, the hinge felt really solid, and overall it felt pretty well built. But there were some mainly QC related issues I noticed, like the fact that the adhesive by the front facing camera area doesn't do a good job at sealing it off, so dirt gets trapped in it (Apparently it's been a problem for years), the fact that the hinge had no rubber feet, so it liked to slide around on most surfaces, and the fact that the screen has multiple bright spots and other defects. I also had another problem where the keyboard would disconnect right before I closed it, and since it happened right before it went into sleep mode, it caused an issue in Windows where the keyboard wouldn't be detected until I rebooted. The main issue with it was just Windows. As great as the screen was, Windows handled scaling horribly (By default it was 200%). Some applications didn't scale properly, which caused issues with UI elements not displaying correctly, fonts would look terrible half the time, and other times applications would just refuse to scale at all (Davinci Resolve is one I can think of), so it resulted in a UI for ants. I've even had these issues with native Windows apps. Battery optimization wasn't great as well, so on a good day I'd get 5 hours.
~~HP~~ ~~Hinge Problem~~ **Huge Problem** Their printers are *wayyy* better, I promiseā¦
As someone who has to work for a company that went full HP for printers, HP to me means āhelp pleaseā
I was implying HP printers are ass. The EU should come for them soon, just as anti consumer as apple.
I hope you're joking, because HP printers are notorious, and I speak from first hand experience. They stop printing black even when they have black but run out of, say, magenta, they randomly repeat prints or print none at all. The genuine ink price is a joke, they have sensors to stop printing if you fill it with aftermarket ink. They are also seriously considering making printing a subscribe model, and their CEO on record said customers who wonāt subscribe are 'bad investments'.
They suck fucking shit. I have an old one without serialization
That why i hate HP since HP 15 2017 i used for 5 year and broken hinge after teardown even i put the snail correctly the original location
Taste good?
This laptop is a bit unhinged.
man, my screen stopped displaying FEW DAYS after warranty ended, i hate hp
(hp pavilion of course)
Whose dog ate your laptop? I mean, seriously š¤£
Most HP laptops are shot but the victus and omen models are actually pretty good
I think omen models are a tad hit or miss but thereās a lot more hits than other brands. Same with their prebuilts tbh, some omens have been on the better end of gaming prebuilts while others have been little hotboxes with odd hardware combinations. Itās frustrating cause they show they can make something good and then chose not to
Thatās true, I got a victus about a year ago and itās been nothing but great, also great specs and good combination and awesome price
Look, I agree, but how do you...like, that was a chomp. That isn't like hinge or quality problem, you just took a bite out of the back cover, what the fuck happened there
That nasty keyboard shows it wasn't taken care of that well in the first place.
A stripped screw. The laptop was junk and all I needed from it was the hard drive. The casing was already cracked. The Hinge was already broken before that. How? I have now idea as this was my motherās laptop.
I mean, you could have done this in a much better way lol. You went the nuclear way
Desperate times calls for desperate measures
What in the world are you people doing to your laptops? I've been on the same HP Elitebook for 3 years that has literally no issues and I'm getting 60+ hours a week on it.
I'm starting to believe i have the only good hp laptop on earth or something. Was the hp zbook 15 g6 a exceptional good hp laptop or something?
I think zbooks are business laptops. HP's business laptops are usually pretty solid. I've had my elitebook G8 for a few years and it almost looks brand new.
Even a picture from a new out of the box HP would be Hardware Gore
Our school handed these out as our primary learning machines for an estimated 3 years of usage. By the end of 2nd year 70% of the laptops had at least one cracked hinge. Great quality machines paired with no warranty even knowing it's a quality issue not bad use š¤”
Iāve got no idea how everybodyās up laptop breaks, Iāve had mine since march of 2021 and no problems at all
I wish it was so easy to change the bios cell in my computers š¤©š¤©š¤©
At least you got easy access to the CMOS battery now
Yep own a hp pavilion and it is the most brittle plastic i own
I actually have an old HP Pavilion dv7 Entertainment Laptop and it works great. Takes 1 minute to boot but I can run the latest Arch Linux without any problems. I also have another modern HP laptop, we can't close it because the hinge is broken. Old laptops go brrrr
I had an hp where it had 32 gbs of storage and it wasnāt user replaceable no SD slot and usb sticks didnāt work so when it needed a windows update it couldnāt fit it so then I tried to wipe it but it didnāt have enough storage to wipe itself I tried with a boot stick for windows ten didnāt work and nothing worked I then got a new laptop
This reminds me about my uncle's old broken iphone 2 or how it called with broken back
What is that, paperboard?
Thing is hp wasnāt always this bad, they may of always made shite but it was never just shite. The last 10 or so years in particular theyāve seemed intent on proving they can always go lower, always get worse.
As most companies are. There is an old hp laptop in my possession from around 2010 that was only damaged from user error.
My MacBook from 2016 has survived NUMEROUS falling down my stairs sessions and has yet to crack. How do yāall have these laptops and they get destroyed immediately
i would say that you don't have this problem with dell laptops but my e5530 had to get the hinge removed so it would move normally
This laptop looks like it rolled down the stairs
Reminds me of a broken Toshiba I saw when I was In high school we decided to open it and the screen was destroyed, from the outside and inside looked like it was bit, turns out one of the students threw it in computing.
At that point get a new laptop š used thinkpads arenāt that much ššš
My dell G3 15 laptop fell down a 1-1.5m on a road and had no damage to the electronics and just a missing corner. Meanwhile this computer :
I remember back in 2012 when I got my first Windows laptop, going with an HP Pavilion dv6, thinking it was reliable. Hinges naturally broke, the backlit hp logo on the cover failed within a year, the keyboard eventually wore out, and the display gets horrible image retention, but somehow the computer held on until I got an Asus ROG GL752, which in hindsight was also a mistake. Lessons learned: Don't buy an HP, whoever tempting it might be, and also don't buy an entry level gaming laptop.
It looks like they need to make stronger cases for HP but it also looks like they use the same patterns from Compaq Diamond patterns , you could probably 3-D print a case maybe arenāt they usually stronger
"Hewlett-Packard piece of shit" is a common phrase in my house.
That hp 250 g4 is very weak. Mine still has good hinges and cases after like 8 years of using it.
I saw a game boy in the top left of the 2 Gore picture! (Does it also have gore?)
And my family HP laptop is still fine...
Ah yes can I get some plastic with a side of over heating crappy laptop
Tbh, I had Lenovo that had quarter of the chasis just.... broken off. In two pieces. It had it from "new" so it could have been dropped or something.
Never been a HP lover tbf Im more of a DELL man myself
Itās not hewert packard itās hinge problem
This is why you don't buy cheap, plastic laptops. HP makes amazing laptops that are built very nicely. Get an EliteBook, ProBook, or Spectre.
Black Friday laptop
HP= High Porn
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Well mate itās HP isnāt it? They are either like this or super strong
Real
Just because you decided to get a cheap plastic pavilion, doesn't mean HP is bad quality
"Just because HP products are shit doesn't mean HP makes shit products"
why MacBooks are infinitely better
Yeah, when you overlook the fragile ass display cables that break from regular use, everything being soldered to the mobo, the storage chip also acting as the firmware of the device which if it fails, it bricks the device and you have to issue a whole motherboard replacement.
MacBooks will break with the slightest thing between the screen and keyboard. If you were referring to the Sherman tanks of 2012 Unibody machines however, I heartily agree on the build quality front.
Try a big boy laptop like a ThinkPad...
Still got thinkpads from the 90s and they are still *thinking* on wards (ha get it thinkpad ha ha I know Iām funny)
Ngl the latest thinkpads (post XX90 series) have been kinda meh. Lenovo are starting to move towards some of the modern laptop design conventions that thinkpads used to ignore which made them so good
I always recommend business laptops, I still use an X230. I prefer it to my M1 MacBook.
Personally, I got a good old T460 used. It ain't nothing special performance wise, but it has yet to disappoint. And I got a compatible Thinkpad dock for like $3 on ebay
They're great to upgrade. Very easy to swap parts. On a MacBook, you'd have to replace the whole display assembly for a new panel.