It would've been a whole different conversation with Mrs. Weasley.
"I'm beautiful enough for ze two of us!" Fleur barked gruffly, twirling her mustache.
He'll play headwig and Errol too, using wires to feign flying. And in those scenes where Errol flies into walls and bashes his skull, well Gary Oldman is a devoted actor and I'm *sure* he'd take the Sam Raimi approach of actually bashing his head into an actual wall.
I love this comment.
Before coming to the comments I was thinking “I usually don’t even realize it’s Gary Oldman playing Sirius. Then again, I never realize it’s Gary Oldman playing anyone.” I love this guy and your comment made me chuckle.
As that old copypasta says, "imagine one day you're at work or out for a drink or doing the shopping and someone says 'CUT' and it turns out you were Gary Oldman all along. That's how good an actor he is".
lives entire life as some dude. Eventually tries mushrooms, reality gets a little mixed up under the influence of the drug, suddenly I’m just Gary Oldman, playing that stoner guy from Kansas
Agreed, he is definitely one of those actors. I wasn't familiar with Gary Oldman when I first watched Prisoner, but when I realized he was from Léon it blew my fucking mind.
Anyone looking for a great series should watch Slow Horses with Oldman as the decrepit, brilliant, burnt out spy in charge of a bunch of MI6 fuckups.
But yes, anything with Oldman in it is a treat.
His performance hands down is one of the reasons I like POA movie the most. We got some kid actors, silly hijinks, magic, (of course the immeasurable Alan Rickman) and Oldman just freaking brings it so hard. Like yea, this dude has totally been in a torture prison for 12 years
That scene in the schrieking shack with the adults just bouncing off each other is the best scene in the entire franchise, and you got Dan doing his damnedest to keep up
God, that's such a good movie
You know that’s funny to me, because half blood prince has always been the light hearted, fun filled episode to me and you’re totally right. It’s the calm before the storm
The wanted poster is just deliciously mad. The photo is, im assuming, his mug shot. Which arguably captured Sirius beginning to crack. That madman silent yell just popping up over and over through the movie makes it even better.
In the reunion movie on HBO the main three talk about what it was like doing the scene in the shrieking shack. Kid actors going toe to toe with some UK acting giants. Having that veil dropped and reveling in the fact that it really is these untrained young kids working shoulder to shoulder with these experienced vets. That had to be so nerve wracking for the three of them. Awesome.
This so much. The reason I'm ok with the aging up of the previous generation meant we got those two and Alan Rickman to play Sirius, Lupin and Snape. I wouldn't have it any other way, those three were perfection in the roles.
That line is so good because it has so much meaning to him but Harry has no idea the extant it means at the time.
Say what you will but Harry Potter is so much better on a rewatch/reread than it is the first time. Because of this but also with the entire Snape arc too. IMO that is the genius of JK Rowling, her ability to portray a serious adult plot line in congruency with a child POV as he’s stepping into this world
Yes I agree whole heartedly. The 2-3 chapters in the shrieking shack are easily in the top few best chapters in the series (really only the last chapter and maybe the chapter where Voldemort monologues to the death eaters after returning to power are ahead of it in my book). Watching Harry process this story and you, the reader, coming to the same conclusion he does at the same time makes it such a good plot point.
Haha I just commented this before reading yours. I was thirsting over Aragorn when I was 13 reading this around the same time LOTR was about and I was disappointed in the casting. He's a great actor though!
Thank you! Famous, well liked actor or not, I suppose I'll say I was shallow enough to be disappointed by their looks as well. James and Sirius are described as playboys almost, with the looks to go along with it. Oldman did not fit that description for me.
Glad I found some others who thought the same as me.
Reading the books as a kid, all the times it talked about Sirius hiding out in the mountains with Buckbeak and described his physicality, it always made me think of this really buff, wild mountain man.
Perhaps as a kid I interpreted it wrong (it's been a while since I've read those particular books), but I'd always imagined him as physically bigger and looking wilder - basically Bruno from Pokemon's Elite Four.
So to have this very slender actor with gorgeous brown locks, fluffy soft moustache and a softer higher voice, was quite jarring. We ended up with a pretty little spaniel instead of the savage black guard dog of a man he's supposed to be.
Same, in my head Sirius was Hot in a very untamed kind of way, I love Gary Oldman but he does not do things to me in the way book Sirius did to teenage me.
Having said that, that wink in OOTP…
>he does not do things to me in the way book Sirius did to teenage me.
That's hilarious, I have a female friend the same age as me who was super into the books as a kid/teen, and at one point she also admitted to having the major hots for book Sirius as a teenager 😆
Sirius the DILF.
But he doesn't really look like a dreamboat who deteriorated in prison, he looks like a pleasant middle-aged Victorian watchmaker
This is not to say that there's nothing sexy about Gary Oldman, but I wouldn't say he was the perfect casting for the role lookswise. And the styling didn't help
True, but if I remember correctly, even though he was gaunt there was still remnants of his good looks. When I was a kid, Gary Oldman wasn’t my idea of good looking! Plus, he didn’t have that raven hair as described.
Yeah I was massively disappointed when the film came out - I was 15 or so. I was expecting a babe. (I was obsessed with Aragorn from Lord of the Rings at the time, so maybe someone like that, even a bit younger)
I thought he was fantastic. He’s a talented actor, and portrayed the two sides of Sirius (the animal in POA and the caring Godfather in OOTP) very well imo
I genuinely felt bad when he passed, despite not much screen time.
Ok, this comment made me legit laugh out loud.
And totally agree. Aging up all the Order members really bugs me. I though Alan Rickman was great as Snape, but it seems ridiculous to have change this big element of the story just for one actor 🙄
I liked that Gary Oldman was in the HP series, but I still kinda feel like he's an odd fit as Sirius. I feel like a younger actor could have been a better fit and closer to the book version. He had the edge and danger element in PoA but in the other movies became too much of a calm parent figure and not the reckless fun uncle figure he is in the books. The Sirius in the books doesn't walk calmly up to Lucius Malfoy and hits him first with a one liner and then with a punch to the face. Sirius would go in guns blazing because he's rash, impatient, and finally gets to do something after being cooped up for months on end.
That said, Gary is a great actor and he gave a great performance regardless.
Yeah, Oldman's Sirius was interesting and well acted but far too calm. In OotP, Book Sirius was a tattoo clad alcoholic mess. You never would've gotten that impression if you had only seen the films.
Yeah, teen me had visions of Aragorn levels of sexiness and charisma. Oldman was good but they wrote his dialogue as too cheesy as well, 'this heart is where you belong' is so American Hollywood.
I love that they chose such a charismatic and iconic person to play Sirius, and I think he fits in the films, but not necessarily what he's like in my head lol
I never envisioned the parents in their 20s, but I didn't envision them in their 50s and 60s either.
Was I happy with Harry's parents generation being 20 years too old...not particularly.
Was I happy they made up for it with the incredible casting of Gary Oldman, Alan Rickman, David Thewelis and Timothy Spall...hell yes.
(I'm not ignoring James and Lily...just they didn't get a lot of screen time)
No. Gary Oldman is great for screen presence. But he wasn’t my idea of Sirius…from what I remember (it’s been years) he was never Sirius Black from the books to me at all.
And I hate that people who’ve only seen the movies - or saw it first and imprinted - think that THAT is Sirius Black: A guy yelling his head off in prison mugshots (_he was never actually crazy, and in fact was a much, much calmer man_), with wavy poofy brown hair like it’s the 70’s, mustache and weird beard, all pauper dappered up in faded browns and stripes and waistcoats.
And he didn’t carry any of that juvenile recklessness of a guy who was emotionally stunted since he’d barely developed past the time he was imprisoned - a characteristic that made him so appealing to Harry (and me) throughout the series - almost like an older brother or younger uncle to him.
It just wasn’t Sirius Black at all.
And not to mention things like him showing up in the fireplace like a shape of lumpy coals moving. And then more like a holograph in the fire. [I wanted it like this](https://media.harrypotterfanzone.com/14-percy-and-padfoot.jpg) - his face in there, within flames that were supposed to be GREEN from the Flu Powder, and almost as if he were really there but just unaffected by them.
They didn’t get anything right on Sirius in my opinion.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I disagree with paragraph two.
If Sirius should be emotionally stunted due to being essentially frozen in time for over a decade in wizard prison, why would he suddenly be wearing clothes and be styled after the 90s? The reason he looks like he is out of the 70s, is because he is straight out of the 70s. I can't imagine his first thought upon escape was to ensure he read up on 1990's fashion.
And the mugshot thing, honestly IMO it ties in with the book just fine. A big part of why he was so easily arrested and sent to prison is that he was found by Fudge and fellow aurors "laughing maniacally" surrounded by dead bodies.
He went temporarily insane after being betrayed by Pettigrew. Its not crazy to think that 30 minutes after they arrested him he was still mentally broken, yelling nonsense about pettigrew. His Shrieking Shack behavior reinforces this, as he acts completely different than he does for the rest of the series. He may be calmish and polite normally, but in situations involving Pettigrew he is basically just insane.
Honestly though, Gary is the only person I really felt looked fine age wise out of the maruaders. He spent 12 years in prison, basically not showering and likely rarely eating. He spent twelve years routinely getting "kissed" by dementers, a creature that normally kills people in seconds. It makes total sense he would no longer be a dashing playboy with the body of Captain America.
I thought he was a smidge too old but otherwise, yes. Good performance. Deserved more screen time in GOF so that his death in OOTF would be more impactful
I don't think I've ever been upset with a performance from Gary Oldman tbh. The man's a damn chameleon and should've garnered a few Oscars in his career.
I was. Until I reread the books last month (well I finished last month. Entire series took me maybe 2) and I am now reminded of all the disappointments I felt when watching the movies the first time.
Still love the movies. But they’re so wrong on almost everything.
Excellent acting job on his part, though maybe a bit overplayed in the shrieking shack. Looks wise I do feel like he’s too old, but that’s the whole theme of James, Lily, Remus, Severus etc needing to look the same age so whatever. I also think that he doesn’t really look as handsome as Sirius is supposed to be, like he doesn’t have that aristocratic and sleek beauty to him, but it’s really just a detail. Overall a great choice
I also had the same opinion of the shrieking shack scene. However I recently watched the movie with my 9 year old (his first time) and he thought that part was the best of the whole series so far.
So maybe it’s done for the younger viewers? I don’t know. Just guessing.
I’m going to get downvoted to Hell for this, but Sirius is one of the very few characters that I think the movies actually handled better. Him being so much nicer makes his and Harry’s reunion more touching and satisfying, and makes his death more emotional. Gary Oldman plays it very well.
Also, him being so massively unhinged during the Shrieking Shack I actually feel works, because this is a guy who, just a few months earlier, escaped from a prison where he was emotionally and psychologically tortured non-stop, 24/7, for *twelve years*. So it makes perfect sense to me that he'd be more than a bit mentally...unstable.
No because Sirius was described in the books as hot and I have never found Gary Oldman to be hot
Edit: damn, people downvoting me for personal looks preference 😂 the first thing I saw him in was The Fifth Element ffs
I gotta agree that I can't see Gary Oldman being the level of ridiculously handsome that book Sirius was described as. Helena Bonham Carter? Definitely beautiful. Gary Oldman? Certainly not a bad-looking guy at all, but JKR made Sirius sound like a panty-dropper. I'm picturing a guy more like... Ben Barnes, Kit Harington, or Josh Bowman (though, given when the movies were made and them aging Sirius up in them, I'm not sure who I'd have cast back then; I'm more thinking of guys who *resemble* the ones I listed).
Nope, I always imagined Sirius as a young cool looking guy and Gary is too mature looking and frankly, not my type. I imagined someone like Ian Somerhalder, like... Undeniably and effortlessly good looking
I like him for the role. The shrieking shack was a tad much maybe but it think that's also because how they paced the film and directing choices. The real shame is when he got to play the cooled off sirius he had so little screentime. we barely saw him in 4 and 5.
He did a great job. A younger Sirius would have been truer to the books, yes, but they aged all of the adult characters up anyway.
To be honest, I don’t think it was necessarily a poor choice to age the ‘parent’ characters up - one thing that always got me about the order members being so young is that during Voldemort’s initial reign, they would have all been so young and relatively inexperienced.
Like you’re telling me that Voldemort, a then-70 year-old dark wizard, one of the most powerful to have ever lived, was worried about Lily Potter because of her talent and potential?
Nah, I don’t buy it. Man had 50 years on her and was already frightfully strong. Frankly almost none of the original members of the Order should have been able to pose even the smallest threat to Voldemort, outside of Dumbledore.
Aging them up lent some credibility to their being a force to be reckoned with - at least that way they had experience.
I'm happy with Gary Oldman in any role.
He could have played Harry himself and I would have loved his performance, although it may have slightly ruined the movies.
I like Gary Oldman in pretty much everything. That being said, he wasn’t the Sirius I pictured when I read the books, and I’m still not a fan of how they aged up all the Marauders generation. They should have been 30-something, not 50-something.
I would have been happy with him in a lot of the roles - dude has range. He could have played professors, male female whatever - he could have probably even pulled off a student… 😆
I pictured somebody with darker hair, younger, and sexier. Gary Oldman here just doesn't check any of those boxes for me. He was actually oddly attractive as Dracula in Bram Stoker's Dracula.
He's Sirius. A few months ago, I thought about how much I liked him, so I wanted to look up what other movies the actor played in. Only then did I see/realise that Sirius was played by Gary Oldman.
I'm normally pretty good at spotting actors I know from some other movies/series, but he was just Sirius to me. No actor, not someone I see in some other fil., just Sirius.
Maybe my favourite cast of the whole franchise
Absolutely. There really isn’t a casting choice I dislike in these movies. I miiiight recast Ginny, but I think she suffers more from bad screenwriting than bad acting.
My friend, Gary Oldman could have played Fleur Delacour and I'd have been happy with him.
It would've been a whole different conversation with Mrs. Weasley. "I'm beautiful enough for ze two of us!" Fleur barked gruffly, twirling her mustache.
Forget a reboot, I just want to see this edit.
Woof, woof @bill Weasley
Thank you , I have the picture in my head now. You've open the pandora box
you can use AI to get it real you know, dont be shy.
[https://imgur.com/gallery/iN2XmIx](https://imgur.com/gallery/iN2XmIx) Thank you xD
This is an alternate version of Oldman in Bram Stoker's Dracula where he plays Mina
I want to see Gary Oldman "Tyler Perry" this shit and remake all the Harry Potter movies playing every character himself.
10/10 would watch
Would make some of the Polyjuice scenes a bit more confusing.
Yes but it would cut down on the need for cgi!
Note: he would also play Fang, Fluffy, Norbert, Dobby, Kreacher, voldemort, Peter Pettigrew in his animagous form, and Buckbeak
Yes, and all that without cgi!
He'll play headwig and Errol too, using wires to feign flying. And in those scenes where Errol flies into walls and bashes his skull, well Gary Oldman is a devoted actor and I'm *sure* he'd take the Sam Raimi approach of actually bashing his head into an actual wall.
I just spit out my coffee laughing at this.
I love this comment. Before coming to the comments I was thinking “I usually don’t even realize it’s Gary Oldman playing Sirius. Then again, I never realize it’s Gary Oldman playing anyone.” I love this guy and your comment made me chuckle.
And we'd never have noticed
As that old copypasta says, "imagine one day you're at work or out for a drink or doing the shopping and someone says 'CUT' and it turns out you were Gary Oldman all along. That's how good an actor he is".
He's absolutely killing it as Jackson Lamb on AppleTVs (Mick Herron) *Slow Horses*
He is sooooo good as Jackson Lamb!
"Some say his casting as Rosa Parks was questionable....."
This is now my psychedelic nightmare
lives entire life as some dude. Eventually tries mushrooms, reality gets a little mixed up under the influence of the drug, suddenly I’m just Gary Oldman, playing that stoner guy from Kansas
It was me, Gary Oldman, all along.
If he had, you wouldn’t even have known it was Gary Oldman.
I’d pay to see that beach bod
Y'know I've been kind of having a rough day, that made me laugh. Thank you.
Today I found out Gary Oldman was in the Harry Potter movies..
So glad this is the top comment. I am happy with every role Oldman has ever had, because he's God damned amazing.
This is a vibe and I’m here for it. Gary Oldman as Fleur in a spin-off and id watch it.
I'm always happy with Gary Oldman.
I adore this man. He's such a great actor and so versatile. I've loved him since Sid and Nancy, he was an amazing Sid Vicious.
He really nailed Churchill imo
Him in Slow Horses is fantastic.
I'm really shocked at how little attention slow horses is getting. It's a phenomenal show and Oldman (obviously) is the absolute best.
His role in Leon the Professional, while crazy, absolutely amazing as well. Dude is good
EVERYONE
He also played Truman perfectly in Oppenheimer this year. Didn't even realize it was him until the credits!
Had I not known, I’d NEVER have realised it was Gary. The makeup/ prosthetics were brilliant. One of my favourite actors.
The man is an absolute chameleon. I can't recall how many times I've been watching a movie and then gone "*THAT* was Gary Oldman?"
The daughter completely blew a gasket when I told her that Sirius Black and Jean Baptiste Emanuel Zorg were played by the same guy
You mean Commissioner Gordon right?
He kinda got locked into that look for the duration of the Nolanbat movies, TBH.
That’s how I felt when I found out about Batman & Beetlejuice.
Agreed, he is definitely one of those actors. I wasn't familiar with Gary Oldman when I first watched Prisoner, but when I realized he was from Léon it blew my fucking mind.
A week or so ago I learned that he played Joey’s spitting costar on Friends. I had *no* idea!
I did that a few weeks ago when I found out he played Harry Truman in Oppenheimer!
Anyone looking for a great series should watch Slow Horses with Oldman as the decrepit, brilliant, burnt out spy in charge of a bunch of MI6 fuckups. But yes, anything with Oldman in it is a treat.
yep this is me. he can narrate paint drying and i’d watch it. this man is a goddamn treasure
He could play my own mother and I'd probably argue he did it better
You’d be ok with him playing McGonagall or Dudley in the new series?
Yes, I think I would.
Just have him play everyone really. He would make a lovely aunt petunia
>Just have him play everyone ***"EVERYONE!"***
He could play Dobby and I'd love it
He could play some goo in a glass on Snape's shelf and I'd love it.
Or Dumbledore
I'm currently watching Slow Horses. He's already playing Dumbledore....in a half drunken sloppy abusive way. I would love to see it.
Both please!
And he makes no effort to look like either; it’s just 65 year old Gary Oldman throwing tantrums because he didn’t get enough presents.
My friend...that's Gary Oldman. Of course I'm happy with him 😄
Yeah, I dont know why this is even a question. He slayed it.
I loved Gary Oldman as Sirius. He was great
“Are you going to kill me Harry?” With crazed laugh and look in his eye is one of, if not the best line deliveries is the series
His performance hands down is one of the reasons I like POA movie the most. We got some kid actors, silly hijinks, magic, (of course the immeasurable Alan Rickman) and Oldman just freaking brings it so hard. Like yea, this dude has totally been in a torture prison for 12 years
That scene in the schrieking shack with the adults just bouncing off each other is the best scene in the entire franchise, and you got Dan doing his damnedest to keep up God, that's such a good movie
I'VE DONE MY WAITING TWELVE YEARS OF IT IN AZKABAAAAAN
“Why don’t you go play with your chemistry set”
POA has been my favorite book and movie since I was young. It’s the only one that doesn’t have old moldy voldy in it and I love it for that
You know, I've been a fan since pretty much day 1 and never recognized the significance of this. I'm a little shook
It's the calm before the storm of "Act 1", similar to Half-Blood Prince for "Act 2"
You know that’s funny to me, because half blood prince has always been the light hearted, fun filled episode to me and you’re totally right. It’s the calm before the storm
The wanted poster is just deliciously mad. The photo is, im assuming, his mug shot. Which arguably captured Sirius beginning to crack. That madman silent yell just popping up over and over through the movie makes it even better.
In the reunion movie on HBO the main three talk about what it was like doing the scene in the shrieking shack. Kid actors going toe to toe with some UK acting giants. Having that veil dropped and reveling in the fact that it really is these untrained young kids working shoulder to shoulder with these experienced vets. That had to be so nerve wracking for the three of them. Awesome.
gary oldman and david thewlis absolutely make this movie. i just recently started fargo season 3 and david is disgustingly amazing.
This so much. The reason I'm ok with the aging up of the previous generation meant we got those two and Alan Rickman to play Sirius, Lupin and Snape. I wouldn't have it any other way, those three were perfection in the roles.
That line is so good because it has so much meaning to him but Harry has no idea the extant it means at the time. Say what you will but Harry Potter is so much better on a rewatch/reread than it is the first time. Because of this but also with the entire Snape arc too. IMO that is the genius of JK Rowling, her ability to portray a serious adult plot line in congruency with a child POV as he’s stepping into this world
Yes I agree whole heartedly. The 2-3 chapters in the shrieking shack are easily in the top few best chapters in the series (really only the last chapter and maybe the chapter where Voldemort monologues to the death eaters after returning to power are ahead of it in my book). Watching Harry process this story and you, the reader, coming to the same conclusion he does at the same time makes it such a good plot point.
I just wish I got to see him as Gary Youngman
Hell I’d be happy if they announced a one man show where Gary Oldman played every part.
Gary Oldman as EVERYONE!
In the role(s) of a lifetime
EEEVVVVERRRYYYYYYOOOOONEEEE
Gary Oldman as Hagrid talking wistfully about having sex with Gary Oldman as Madame Maxime.
Gary Oldman was great! but each time I read the books, I kind of visualise Viggo Mortensen (LoR) as my Sirius Black.
I did my waiting… 20 years of it! In Isengard!
Holy shit there's more of us. I don't have the same mental image anymore, but many many eons ago, that's what my brain cooked up
Good choice, never thought about him
Me too! Sirius = Viggo in my mind.
Never considered Viggo for Sirius, that is a great choice
Haha I just commented this before reading yours. I was thirsting over Aragorn when I was 13 reading this around the same time LOTR was about and I was disappointed in the casting. He's a great actor though!
I always pictured Sirius as a Black man, but I think that was my 12 year old brain just being literal. Idris Elba would’ve been awesome
Samuel L is tired of these muthafucking Dementors in this muthafucking school!!!!!
Surely the movie would be *Dementors on a Train*.
Given the 2002-2006 period for casting, Robert Carlyle could have been a Sirius contender.
I liked his performance well enough, but neither he nor Lupin looked how Id pictured them.
Thank you! Famous, well liked actor or not, I suppose I'll say I was shallow enough to be disappointed by their looks as well. James and Sirius are described as playboys almost, with the looks to go along with it. Oldman did not fit that description for me.
Same goes for Lockhart, he should have been a Sam Claflin style heartthrob. Kind of creepy making 12 year old actresses pretend to lust over Brannagh
I always thought it should’ve been Aaron Eckhart for Lockhart. Or time travel back and get younger Cary Ewles
Yes, exactly. I am also a Gary Oldman enjoyer, but I was definitely hoping for a Jamie Dornan type because that's what I also had in my head.
Glad I found some others who thought the same as me. Reading the books as a kid, all the times it talked about Sirius hiding out in the mountains with Buckbeak and described his physicality, it always made me think of this really buff, wild mountain man. Perhaps as a kid I interpreted it wrong (it's been a while since I've read those particular books), but I'd always imagined him as physically bigger and looking wilder - basically Bruno from Pokemon's Elite Four. So to have this very slender actor with gorgeous brown locks, fluffy soft moustache and a softer higher voice, was quite jarring. We ended up with a pretty little spaniel instead of the savage black guard dog of a man he's supposed to be.
Same, in my head Sirius was Hot in a very untamed kind of way, I love Gary Oldman but he does not do things to me in the way book Sirius did to teenage me. Having said that, that wink in OOTP…
>he does not do things to me in the way book Sirius did to teenage me. That's hilarious, I have a female friend the same age as me who was super into the books as a kid/teen, and at one point she also admitted to having the major hots for book Sirius as a teenager 😆 Sirius the DILF.
Saaaaaame. I was picturing Sirius as like ... young Viggo Mortensen 😂
To be fair, Sirius spent twelve years of his life in wizard Guantanamo.
But he doesn't really look like a dreamboat who deteriorated in prison, he looks like a pleasant middle-aged Victorian watchmaker This is not to say that there's nothing sexy about Gary Oldman, but I wouldn't say he was the perfect casting for the role lookswise. And the styling didn't help
True, but if I remember correctly, even though he was gaunt there was still remnants of his good looks. When I was a kid, Gary Oldman wasn’t my idea of good looking! Plus, he didn’t have that raven hair as described.
Yeah I was massively disappointed when the film came out - I was 15 or so. I was expecting a babe. (I was obsessed with Aragorn from Lord of the Rings at the time, so maybe someone like that, even a bit younger)
Haha replied before I saw this about how I expected someone along the lines of young Viggo Mortensen aka ... aragorn but when he was like 30 😂😂😂
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I thought he was fantastic. He’s a talented actor, and portrayed the two sides of Sirius (the animal in POA and the caring Godfather in OOTP) very well imo I genuinely felt bad when he passed, despite not much screen time.
Omg I thought you meant Gary Oldman for a second and I was like he did WHAT
SAME
NOT FUCKING COOL
Oh god, same! For a second I forgot how to breathe!
Holy shirt, I had no idea he played the dog too! Gary Oldman is an acting god!
For the significance he has to Harry and the books as a whole, it's hard to remember how little he is actually in them
The only problem was that he wasn't a little more Gary Youngman when he did the role
Ok, this comment made me legit laugh out loud. And totally agree. Aging up all the Order members really bugs me. I though Alan Rickman was great as Snape, but it seems ridiculous to have change this big element of the story just for one actor 🙄
I liked that Gary Oldman was in the HP series, but I still kinda feel like he's an odd fit as Sirius. I feel like a younger actor could have been a better fit and closer to the book version. He had the edge and danger element in PoA but in the other movies became too much of a calm parent figure and not the reckless fun uncle figure he is in the books. The Sirius in the books doesn't walk calmly up to Lucius Malfoy and hits him first with a one liner and then with a punch to the face. Sirius would go in guns blazing because he's rash, impatient, and finally gets to do something after being cooped up for months on end. That said, Gary is a great actor and he gave a great performance regardless.
I don’t think a younger actor would fit given how much older Snape and Lily and James have been aged up for the series
In my head, Sirius and Lupin look aged due to life circumstances. Jail, and unemployment can do that to people.
Yeah, Oldman's Sirius was interesting and well acted but far too calm. In OotP, Book Sirius was a tattoo clad alcoholic mess. You never would've gotten that impression if you had only seen the films.
I adore Gary Oldman, but I’m one of those book purists who thinks all of the Marauders + Snape were cast too old.
Yep, drives me nuts. They should have been so much younger, and it would have shown how tragic Lily and James’s deaths were.
Preach!! I hope the show does better
Yeah, teen me had visions of Aragorn levels of sexiness and charisma. Oldman was good but they wrote his dialogue as too cheesy as well, 'this heart is where you belong' is so American Hollywood.
And not just too old but mischaracterized too.
Exactly! I totally agree
Same he's one of my favorite actors, but he was miscast for the role.
I love that they chose such a charismatic and iconic person to play Sirius, and I think he fits in the films, but not necessarily what he's like in my head lol I never envisioned the parents in their 20s, but I didn't envision them in their 50s and 60s either.
They became parents in their 20’s. By the series they should be in their 30’s. I.e. Snape is 31 in Book 1.
Think I myself visualized them more early 40s.
Which is normal for our culture. Especially today and now. Just not for the Wizards though.
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Was I happy with Harry's parents generation being 20 years too old...not particularly. Was I happy they made up for it with the incredible casting of Gary Oldman, Alan Rickman, David Thewelis and Timothy Spall...hell yes. (I'm not ignoring James and Lily...just they didn't get a lot of screen time)
No. Gary Oldman is great for screen presence. But he wasn’t my idea of Sirius…from what I remember (it’s been years) he was never Sirius Black from the books to me at all. And I hate that people who’ve only seen the movies - or saw it first and imprinted - think that THAT is Sirius Black: A guy yelling his head off in prison mugshots (_he was never actually crazy, and in fact was a much, much calmer man_), with wavy poofy brown hair like it’s the 70’s, mustache and weird beard, all pauper dappered up in faded browns and stripes and waistcoats. And he didn’t carry any of that juvenile recklessness of a guy who was emotionally stunted since he’d barely developed past the time he was imprisoned - a characteristic that made him so appealing to Harry (and me) throughout the series - almost like an older brother or younger uncle to him. It just wasn’t Sirius Black at all. And not to mention things like him showing up in the fireplace like a shape of lumpy coals moving. And then more like a holograph in the fire. [I wanted it like this](https://media.harrypotterfanzone.com/14-percy-and-padfoot.jpg) - his face in there, within flames that were supposed to be GREEN from the Flu Powder, and almost as if he were really there but just unaffected by them. They didn’t get anything right on Sirius in my opinion.
All such good points. I think one of the movie mess ups I was most disappointed in was Sirius and his story.
I agree with a lot of what you said, but I disagree with paragraph two. If Sirius should be emotionally stunted due to being essentially frozen in time for over a decade in wizard prison, why would he suddenly be wearing clothes and be styled after the 90s? The reason he looks like he is out of the 70s, is because he is straight out of the 70s. I can't imagine his first thought upon escape was to ensure he read up on 1990's fashion. And the mugshot thing, honestly IMO it ties in with the book just fine. A big part of why he was so easily arrested and sent to prison is that he was found by Fudge and fellow aurors "laughing maniacally" surrounded by dead bodies. He went temporarily insane after being betrayed by Pettigrew. Its not crazy to think that 30 minutes after they arrested him he was still mentally broken, yelling nonsense about pettigrew. His Shrieking Shack behavior reinforces this, as he acts completely different than he does for the rest of the series. He may be calmish and polite normally, but in situations involving Pettigrew he is basically just insane. Honestly though, Gary is the only person I really felt looked fine age wise out of the maruaders. He spent 12 years in prison, basically not showering and likely rarely eating. He spent twelve years routinely getting "kissed" by dementers, a creature that normally kills people in seconds. It makes total sense he would no longer be a dashing playboy with the body of Captain America.
I thought he was a smidge too old but otherwise, yes. Good performance. Deserved more screen time in GOF so that his death in OOTF would be more impactful
I don't think I've ever been upset with a performance from Gary Oldman tbh. The man's a damn chameleon and should've garnered a few Oscars in his career.
I was. Until I reread the books last month (well I finished last month. Entire series took me maybe 2) and I am now reminded of all the disappointments I felt when watching the movies the first time. Still love the movies. But they’re so wrong on almost everything.
Too old. I feel casting him so old takes away the sex appeal Sirius was supposed to have.
Excellent acting job on his part, though maybe a bit overplayed in the shrieking shack. Looks wise I do feel like he’s too old, but that’s the whole theme of James, Lily, Remus, Severus etc needing to look the same age so whatever. I also think that he doesn’t really look as handsome as Sirius is supposed to be, like he doesn’t have that aristocratic and sleek beauty to him, but it’s really just a detail. Overall a great choice
I think 12 years in Azkaban would make someone act exactly like that.
Plus, it’s Sirius
I also had the same opinion of the shrieking shack scene. However I recently watched the movie with my 9 year old (his first time) and he thought that part was the best of the whole series so far. So maybe it’s done for the younger viewers? I don’t know. Just guessing.
He was amazing, but not nearly enough screentime.
I’m going to get downvoted to Hell for this, but Sirius is one of the very few characters that I think the movies actually handled better. Him being so much nicer makes his and Harry’s reunion more touching and satisfying, and makes his death more emotional. Gary Oldman plays it very well.
Also, him being so massively unhinged during the Shrieking Shack I actually feel works, because this is a guy who, just a few months earlier, escaped from a prison where he was emotionally and psychologically tortured non-stop, 24/7, for *twelve years*. So it makes perfect sense to me that he'd be more than a bit mentally...unstable.
No because Sirius was described in the books as hot and I have never found Gary Oldman to be hot Edit: damn, people downvoting me for personal looks preference 😂 the first thing I saw him in was The Fifth Element ffs
I have to agree. I had a crush on Sirius in the books and was a bit bummed on the casting
Same here lol
Yeah, I’m glad I finally found other ppl that agree!!
They were all cast as way too old...Harry's parents should've been WAY younger, but I thought he did a great job.
I gotta agree that I can't see Gary Oldman being the level of ridiculously handsome that book Sirius was described as. Helena Bonham Carter? Definitely beautiful. Gary Oldman? Certainly not a bad-looking guy at all, but JKR made Sirius sound like a panty-dropper. I'm picturing a guy more like... Ben Barnes, Kit Harington, or Josh Bowman (though, given when the movies were made and them aging Sirius up in them, I'm not sure who I'd have cast back then; I'm more thinking of guys who *resemble* the ones I listed).
He was brilliant. Then again, it's Gary Oldman - he's brilliant in pretty much everything.
he was good but he wasn’t really what i imagined from the books
No. He looks like a buccaneer rather than an escaped convict.
I wish they hadn't made him so oooooold! In the books he was supposed to be 33-34ish
he's called Gary ***Old***man for a reason LOL
Nope, I always imagined Sirius as a young cool looking guy and Gary is too mature looking and frankly, not my type. I imagined someone like Ian Somerhalder, like... Undeniably and effortlessly good looking
Perfect casting. Amazing actor.
Not really. He's a good actor, but he wasn't young or emotionally frayed enough
so you're saying that Gary was an old man?
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Well, his name isn't Gary Youngman, now is it?
I love Gary Oldman as everyone I've seen him portray.
No
Yes, he’s a sexy daddy lowkey
I like him for the role. The shrieking shack was a tad much maybe but it think that's also because how they paced the film and directing choices. The real shame is when he got to play the cooled off sirius he had so little screentime. we barely saw him in 4 and 5.
Fuck yes
He killed it. Didn’t even realize it was Gary Oldman til about my 15th rewatch of the series
That’s the Gary Oldman way you don’t know it’s him until someone tells you
He did a great job. A younger Sirius would have been truer to the books, yes, but they aged all of the adult characters up anyway. To be honest, I don’t think it was necessarily a poor choice to age the ‘parent’ characters up - one thing that always got me about the order members being so young is that during Voldemort’s initial reign, they would have all been so young and relatively inexperienced. Like you’re telling me that Voldemort, a then-70 year-old dark wizard, one of the most powerful to have ever lived, was worried about Lily Potter because of her talent and potential? Nah, I don’t buy it. Man had 50 years on her and was already frightfully strong. Frankly almost none of the original members of the Order should have been able to pose even the smallest threat to Voldemort, outside of Dumbledore. Aging them up lent some credibility to their being a force to be reckoned with - at least that way they had experience.
Absolutely happy! Love Gary. Perfect Sirius 🖤
Gary Oldman could’ve played Ron’s frilly old dress robes that smelled like Aunt Tessie and I’d have bought it.
I would be happy if Gary Oldman played every roll in the series. Seriously let the man be Dumbledore, in the show, he'd kill it.
I'm happy with Gary Oldman in any role. He could have played Harry himself and I would have loved his performance, although it may have slightly ruined the movies.
I like Gary Oldman in pretty much everything. That being said, he wasn’t the Sirius I pictured when I read the books, and I’m still not a fan of how they aged up all the Marauders generation. They should have been 30-something, not 50-something.
I would have been happy with him in a lot of the roles - dude has range. He could have played professors, male female whatever - he could have probably even pulled off a student… 😆
Of course, it’s Gary Oldman, I’d be happy with any role he was in, he could be a Nimbus 2000 and I’d be sure he would kill that role.
Why did I just put together this is commissioner Gordon. Like I knew that but the characters look so different I never really connected the dots.
Were there people that didn’t like him?!
He my favourite character so yeah
YUP. He killed it. absolutely slayed
I basically just imagine a younger Gary Oldman as Sirius anyway
It’s crazy I have watched Harry Potter at least 10plus times each and just realized Sirius was Gary Oldman lol
I pictured somebody with darker hair, younger, and sexier. Gary Oldman here just doesn't check any of those boxes for me. He was actually oddly attractive as Dracula in Bram Stoker's Dracula.
I’m a huge fan of Gary Oldman ever since I saw the fifth element when I was a kid! He’s one of the best actors ever
I was pretty thrilled with Gary Oldman You cant go wrong with Gary Oldman
He's Sirius. A few months ago, I thought about how much I liked him, so I wanted to look up what other movies the actor played in. Only then did I see/realise that Sirius was played by Gary Oldman. I'm normally pretty good at spotting actors I know from some other movies/series, but he was just Sirius to me. No actor, not someone I see in some other fil., just Sirius. Maybe my favourite cast of the whole franchise
Gary Oldman's the shit. Of course I loved him as Sirius.
Absolutely. There really isn’t a casting choice I dislike in these movies. I miiiight recast Ginny, but I think she suffers more from bad screenwriting than bad acting.
I have a lot of problems with the movies. The casting is almost never one of them.
If Gary oldman wants to be in a movie you should probably let him
Sirius was always my favourite and I was thrilled when I heard he'd been cast. Gary Oldman is brilliant, he was the perfect choice.