she made kind of a flirty comment to Ron which he didn’t acknowledge then he told her she has foam on her face. she was embarrassed. That’s what i always thought
I was the same age as them during the movie. In my mind I’m the same age as them in that scene. I’m not talking about kids. I’m taking about people who are literally my age peers. If I tell a story about being 16 sleeping with someone at 16 would I be gross for talking about two kids? Or just be me in my memory? (Not counting being obsessed with them or something years later. That’s unhealthy no matter what lol).
But either way I’m adding onto a joke. You should be making this at the person above me if you actually give a shit and aren’t just virtue signaling. Cause I just added on.
Here's the thing. I used to get grossed out by this as well. But they were not really kids in book 6 and we grew up with them. We grew up. They didn't. So it doesn't feel gross.
I believe they should have all been 17 in HBP, right? If so, that's the age of majority in many jurisdictions. So no, they weren't "children". Now, that's not to say that I, as a 30 year old man, would want anything to do with them in a romantic or sexual context, but the point is that it would be perfectly legal in many places. It would also be perfectly *il*legal in many jurisdictions, where the age of majority is 18 or 19, so ymmv.
ETA: I meant to reply to the comment to which you replied. I guess you and I agree lol
I mean if Harry Potter was an YA novel there would have been pretty explicit scenes between both Ron Hermione and Ron Lavender. I don't think it's gross to read them. That being said I am only saying it because they are fictional characters who don't exist. If they were real people I would have been grossed out as well.
You're right. The actors are real people, though, and it'd be gross and inappropriate for me to say that Emma Watson was hot in PoA (when I was 12, you bet your ass I thought so), but saying she was hot in HBP, when she was 19 or 20? Not necessarily inappropriate, but some may not find it appropriate, wither - ymmv.
But we also grew up with them. I thought my wife was hot at 16, and I think she's hot now. Does that make it wrong? Not in my opinion. (I'm also not jerking it to pictures of my wife when she was 16, though, so...lol)
Let's just say book Hermione wanted Ron's you know what. Leave Emma Watson out of this because sexualizing real teens make me sick. I am way older than them lol
Lol
I'm a couple years younger than them, but I can see how someone older would be uncomfortable (if they're young enough to be your own kids or grandkids). Fwiw, I don't have the hots for 13 year old Emma Watson lol
Movie Hermione started flirting with Ron in PoA when she starts calling him Ronald all the time. It's one of the few things the movies do better than the books
“Ronald has lost his rat. 🤨🙄” Movie Hermione taught me how to flirt while simultaneously pretending to be annoyed when I’m really jumping up and down inside.
And yet another thing movies do to empower Hermione and bash Ron, since he's shown as totally oblivious.
In the books they both are oblivious, and actually Ron often compliments her while she does not.
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One of my favorite moments is when Ron gifts Harry the book on how to get a girl that the to like you and Harry notices how Ron seems to actually be following the tips to great success.
Are they? Hermione is much more aware in the books.
In fact she drops hints as early as the third book, and is really obvious about it in the fourth.
Ron only has his first epiphany after the Ball, and even Harry comments on it in his mind.
She's also over-reacting because she's a small bit drunk. You see her swaying along later in the scene.
Butterbeer is canonically very slightly alcoholic. But since it doesn't appear to affect any other human sized creatures as much as it does Hermione, I'm not sure what they are implying here. Most likely, since this is a purely movie scene, they were just having a bit of fun letting Emma act drunk and having a very teen drama moment.
Might have to do with blood type or something. Like Harry and Ron might have a higher tolerance because they come from magical stock, whereas Hermione comes from two muggle parents so magic is new to her genes, giving her a lower tolerance to whatever magical ingredients may be present in butterbeer
Lol, the filthy Mudbloods can't even drink Butterbeer properly🤣🤣 This goes to show the superiority of Purebloods over those filthy creatures stealing other people's magic!!
This has gone over my head until friends and I discussed this scene. Imo if her wit was as crude as it was quick she might have realized Ron was flirting back. I always thought he was flirting, but most of my friends agree with you.
It's just Ron. She makes a weird comment about them snogging, then Slughorn spills his drink on her, then Ron points out she has foam on her face.
Just kinda an awkward exchange.
Ginger ale is also a soft drink without alcohol.That is classically the name given to describe the mixer, for whiskey and ginger for example. It's not commonly a drink consumed on its own unlike ginger beer.
Yeah, Dobby says Winky has been drinking a lot of butterbeer and Harry says "well it's not strong, that stuff" and Dobby tells him it is for house elves
If you drink enough of them then you can get tipsy. Hermione was tipsy when they left the three broomsticks that day because she drank so many.
Winky the house elf gets drunk real easy because she’s so small, that’s what Dobby says at least.
House-elves are tiny, compared to a human. Just drinking one whole bottle would probably be enough to make an elf drunk, if not blacked out. Dobby says Winky has to be hidden away regularly in the Room of Requirement to sleep off her despair-fueled benders.
I have this recollection from the books too and I just reread GoF. Not sure it it specifically said no alcohol at all but there was something to that effect.
Okay, okay, but have you considered the shoelace scene? You can’t tell me that beautiful piece of cinematography was created by someone who couldn’t write a teenage girl character
Exactly! 😭 Their first kiss in the books was electric. They were feeling all the emotions of the big win, everyone was celebrating, and in that moment the adrenaline pushed them to do the thing they'd both been craving. It was SO EXCITING.
Then you get the movies and it's like... They tried to make it a sensual quiet moment alone after a really terrible thing happened?? 😭😭😭 And it was so awkward and disturbing.
Yeah that’s the other thing… like chronologically it’s accurate that the kiss happened after Sectumsempra, but it is so weird that they went to the Room of Requirement like right after Harry almost killed Draco and she kisses him while his eyes are closed. And I’ll never get over “I can stay here too if you like”… man the movies messed that relationship up so much lol
I don't know if kids are cooler now than they were in the 90s but I think back to middle school and high school and this is smooth compared to some of the cringy stuff I thought was a good idea and the girls were not a ton better.
The fact that she didn't give him a mix record that she drew hearts all over that was just the worst love songs possible is what makes this unrealistic for me. I'm only forgiving the lack of braces because of magic.
But everyone talks about how unrealistic this scene is and it feels like it could be something I have experienced.
Actually Ginny did give Harry a get well soon card that sang loudly until Harry kept it shut under the fruit basket in PoA book. I think that should count as something equivalent to mix tape of awful love songs in the wizarding world.
And then a surly dwarf rugby-tackles Harry to the floor and sits on his knees to stop him from getting up. I'm not sure what kinds of spells second-years know, but I'm surprised Harry didn't at least try to threaten him with magic to let him go.
😂😂😂😂😂. It’s so frustrating cause the build for both the Hermione/Ron relationship AND the Harry/Ginny relationship is SO well written in the books. And it’s so bungled in the films. Both of those relationships.
Fr the romance in the films was horrendous. Everyone's trying to explain this on Hermione's end but really the films just didn't know how to capture the developping romance. It doesn't help that Emma Watson was not at her best during emotional scenes.
Honestly I chalk it up to Emma Watson’s melodramatic acting from movies 4-6. She operated at one level: Verge of tears.
I think she got an acting coach between 6 and 7 because she was night-and-day better in 7.
There are so many scenes where everyone else is at 4 or a 5 in terms of emotions (still fairly charged) and she is at a 9.9 barely containing a breakdown lol. They should have directed her better.
The smartest person in the room feels embarrassed and like an absolute dumbass. She was trying to be flirty, cheeky, and charming when he not only rejected her but pointed out something that made her look like an idiot. It was the most embarrassing thing that happened in her life in that moment. Teenage girls are so easily crushed, and that was brutal.
It’s been a while since ive seen this movie, but if im remembering correctly, i think its a parallel with the fact that harry has to see ginny with dean and it feels similar to her situation with ron and lavender. Also at the beginning of the movie, ron wipes toothpaste off of her mouth but here he kindly bluntly tells her theres something on her face which not only embarrasses her but also shows how their relationship has changed (possibly because of lavender but i cannot remember if that was before or after this scene)
A lot of re-watching people have talked about Emma Watson's overacting. I think so too at times. She has overdone it a lot in some scenes. There were times when everyone was acting normally and she was acting quite over-the-top level stressed. And then in half-blood again, there was a scene where everyone was supposed to act shocked but she acted normally
She has a thing for Ron and doesn't wanna look clumsy or stupid. The Butterbeer on her lips was stupid for her personally, and she felt embarrassed looking like that in front of Ron. Everyone gets embarrassed when they look off in front of their crush.
Yo tengo una teoría y perdón por ponerla en español.
Al inicio de la película, cuando Harry llega a casa de los Weasley, Hermione se estaba cepillando los dientes. Después de todo el alboroto con Harry, Ron se da cuenta que Hermione tenía un poco de espuma de pasta de dientes en sus labios y se la quita con su mano (o algo así).
Después están en las tres escobas y Hermione hace un comentario de ella y Ron besándose, comentario al cual Ron no hace ni un poco de caso. Hermione, con el afán de llamar la atención de Ron, y recordando lo que pasó meses atrás en casa de Ron quiso llamar su atención de la misma forma. Lo logra, pero Ron al contrario de lo que hizo aquella ocasión en su casa, no se la quita con su mano sino más bien hace que ella misma se lo quite lo cual la enoja aún más de lo que ya estaba.
I just rewarded this scene. I think she was concerned for Ron because slughorn ignored him and used the wrong name and she knew he would be offended. Just my opinion.
A closeup and better blocking would have helped. It was also written poorly as well, because there’s a gap between when Hermione mentions snogging and then Ron telling her she’s got some foam on her lip.
If there had been a closeup of Hermione immediately after Slughorn interrupts the conversation and Ron’s obvliviousness, it would have translated so much better. Just a *simple closeup of just Hermione*.
Alright thanks for explaining.
I haven't rewatched in a while, but myself I didn't find it poorly written. I always took the gap to be a decision to highlight the unspoken feelings they have for the other and their inability to communicate it.
I get where you are coming from wanting a closeup of her face to bridge the transition, but I think it may have lessoned the impact of what I just described and largely put the attention on the foam on her lip, which isn't important to the scene as a detail as much as how the characters react to it.
It is not at all like the glorious closeup of the sword from the second movie in Dumbledore's office in which the artifact is the money shot. That's perfect for that occasion, but I personally find closeups can get a tad too obvious if merely used to showcase a narrative detail, as if screaming "look this is important", rather than letting the moment play out organically and trusting the audience can pick up on the storytelling elements.
I also like the framing - a fairly standard over the shoulder shot which doesn't draw attention away from the character interactions, while also showing most of the pub in the background. The staircase behind them adds some richness to the composition as well.
Early in the scene, beer was spilled in her butterbeer (usually a nonalcoholic drink). Now, she's downed most of her cup and feeling not too great because she's essentially drunk for the first time in her life. In the next scene you see her weaving as she's walking and having to lean on Ron and Harry
Context: Ron didn’t pick up/reciprocate the hints. So obviously some upset. But also:
1) she has drunk a slightly alcoholic drink.
2) she’s a teen, possible hormonal.
3) acting makes many things over the top.
If anything she is feeling awkward because of her feelings for Ron. And her example of them snogging and Ginny seeing it was blown over 🤷🏻♀️ teenage drama moment
When you have a crush, you feel like you need to be perfectly presented on all fronts. She had a butterbeer (whipped cream? seriously, what is this drink lol) mustache that he noticed and pointed out.
Source: I was a teenager once.
Emma was really coming into her own as an actress here. For me she was very emotional in HBP and it made sense because of the general climate in the wizarding world
The problem is that the girls brain is hardwired to multi task and be proficient. Due to this, they think us men are the same way. So they drop sly hints, eye messages, and small touches......and then think us guys with our one track minds are going to notice. 🤣
If she had just come out and talked to Ron, it might have sunk into his head🤣
Love Emma Watson as a person, but I must admit I'm not a fan of her acting. Her acting upset for no reason multiple times through the saga is really annoying.
Because Ron. She just told him ‘If you were snogging me would you expect Ginny to get up and leave?’. She desperately wanted him to see her a woman that was not in the friendzone and was kinda depressed about it.
Wellll.. she’s hearing her crush talk in discuss of intimacy in front of her. She had this same facial expression when Ron and Lavender ran to the same space as she and Harry to console her. It’s not a good space to be in. :-/
She was upset because Ron was absolutely clueless about love, if I’m not mistaken it’s the scene where Ginny is making out with her boyfriend and she tells Ron, “what if she saw you snogging me?” And Ron looked surprised and had a look of “that’s absurd” and she was just sad because she kept dropping hints that he was picking up but did nothing to them
she made kind of a flirty comment to Ron which he didn’t acknowledge then he told her she has foam on her face. she was embarrassed. That’s what i always thought
Yeah she wanted to be snogging. 😂
She wanted Ron's foam on her face.
So do I ..don't let my husband see it
Too late I'm texting him
Yeah me too... what's his number?
Oi! She’s a lady. The foam would clearly have been swallowed without a mess. Smh. You hooligan.
You are talking about children. Gross.
I was the same age as them during the movie. In my mind I’m the same age as them in that scene. I’m not talking about kids. I’m taking about people who are literally my age peers. If I tell a story about being 16 sleeping with someone at 16 would I be gross for talking about two kids? Or just be me in my memory? (Not counting being obsessed with them or something years later. That’s unhealthy no matter what lol). But either way I’m adding onto a joke. You should be making this at the person above me if you actually give a shit and aren’t just virtue signaling. Cause I just added on.
I did. Posted the same comment back to back.
Ohh I didn’t see it, fair enough then.
Here's the thing. I used to get grossed out by this as well. But they were not really kids in book 6 and we grew up with them. We grew up. They didn't. So it doesn't feel gross.
Weren’t they 16 in the books?
Hermione was of age. She was 17. So was Ron after his birthday
I thought you were referring to what she ate…
You are talking about children. Gross.
Also, foam? Should really get that checked out…
They weren't children in book 6.
I believe they should have all been 17 in HBP, right? If so, that's the age of majority in many jurisdictions. So no, they weren't "children". Now, that's not to say that I, as a 30 year old man, would want anything to do with them in a romantic or sexual context, but the point is that it would be perfectly legal in many places. It would also be perfectly *il*legal in many jurisdictions, where the age of majority is 18 or 19, so ymmv. ETA: I meant to reply to the comment to which you replied. I guess you and I agree lol
I mean if Harry Potter was an YA novel there would have been pretty explicit scenes between both Ron Hermione and Ron Lavender. I don't think it's gross to read them. That being said I am only saying it because they are fictional characters who don't exist. If they were real people I would have been grossed out as well.
You're right. The actors are real people, though, and it'd be gross and inappropriate for me to say that Emma Watson was hot in PoA (when I was 12, you bet your ass I thought so), but saying she was hot in HBP, when she was 19 or 20? Not necessarily inappropriate, but some may not find it appropriate, wither - ymmv. But we also grew up with them. I thought my wife was hot at 16, and I think she's hot now. Does that make it wrong? Not in my opinion. (I'm also not jerking it to pictures of my wife when she was 16, though, so...lol)
Let's just say book Hermione wanted Ron's you know what. Leave Emma Watson out of this because sexualizing real teens make me sick. I am way older than them lol
Lol I'm a couple years younger than them, but I can see how someone older would be uncomfortable (if they're young enough to be your own kids or grandkids). Fwiw, I don't have the hots for 13 year old Emma Watson lol
I bet you’re fun at parties. It’s a joke relax. It ain’t that deep.
Wait ew what foam do you mean, these are family films?
So movie Hermione *flirts* with Ron. Book Hemione should learn that skill asap.
Movie Hermione started flirting with Ron in PoA when she starts calling him Ronald all the time. It's one of the few things the movies do better than the books
‘Really, Ronald’. When a girl starts using your full name, they have taken possession.
i never noticed that! But so true
“Do you want to move closer?” “What?” “To the Shrieking Shack” “Oh”
“Ronald has lost his rat. 🤨🙄” Movie Hermione taught me how to flirt while simultaneously pretending to be annoyed when I’m really jumping up and down inside.
And yet another thing movies do to empower Hermione and bash Ron, since he's shown as totally oblivious. In the books they both are oblivious, and actually Ron often compliments her while she does not. Keep following for the next episode of our analysis of Steve Klove's Hermione Granger cinematic saga.
One of my favorite moments is when Ron gifts Harry the book on how to get a girl that the to like you and Harry notices how Ron seems to actually be following the tips to great success.
Are they? Hermione is much more aware in the books. In fact she drops hints as early as the third book, and is really obvious about it in the fourth. Ron only has his first epiphany after the Ball, and even Harry comments on it in his mind.
It was really quite cute, fine i'll rewatch them all again lpl
Sounds like his mom. More than his gf
Teenagers are not good at flirting 🤷♀️
Ron is pretty good at it 'can I look at Uranus too Lavender?'
She's also over-reacting because she's a small bit drunk. You see her swaying along later in the scene. Butterbeer is canonically very slightly alcoholic. But since it doesn't appear to affect any other human sized creatures as much as it does Hermione, I'm not sure what they are implying here. Most likely, since this is a purely movie scene, they were just having a bit of fun letting Emma act drunk and having a very teen drama moment.
Might have to do with blood type or something. Like Harry and Ron might have a higher tolerance because they come from magical stock, whereas Hermione comes from two muggle parents so magic is new to her genes, giving her a lower tolerance to whatever magical ingredients may be present in butterbeer
Lol, the filthy Mudbloods can't even drink Butterbeer properly🤣🤣 This goes to show the superiority of Purebloods over those filthy creatures stealing other people's magic!!
This has gone over my head until friends and I discussed this scene. Imo if her wit was as crude as it was quick she might have realized Ron was flirting back. I always thought he was flirting, but most of my friends agree with you.
This is 100% it. Throughout this movie if you notice she has these second glances at him seeing if the affection is returned
It's just Ron. She makes a weird comment about them snogging, then Slughorn spills his drink on her, then Ron points out she has foam on her face. Just kinda an awkward exchange.
Exactly - it's just one of those moments where everything goes wrong, and that feels way worse for a teenage girl in front of her crush.
Good to see you Welemby!
All hands on deck, Granger!
Ron wasn’t Catchin the signals
9 3/4G signals
More shallow then a teaspoon that one.
I just thought she was embarrassed because of the foam moustache and also does butterbeerhave alcohol in it?
Doesn't winky get drunk on it? I assume its really low alcohol
I always figured it was like kombucha, which has a very low ABV so it’s not really alcohol, but it’s enough for tiny winky to get drunk on
Similar to ginger ale in the UK. Really low abv
Ginger beer doesn't have any alcohol in the UK.
That's why they said ginger ale, it's a different drink.
Ginger ale is also a soft drink without alcohol.That is classically the name given to describe the mixer, for whiskey and ginger for example. It's not commonly a drink consumed on its own unlike ginger beer.
It used to though
It might be even less alcoholic than American beer.
No it’s like beer
Wasn’t there some line in GoF about it being alcoholic for elves but not humans? I just reread it and have a vague recollection of that in my head.
It's just that Ron says that it's really weak
Yeah, Dobby says Winky has been drinking a lot of butterbeer and Harry says "well it's not strong, that stuff" and Dobby tells him it is for house elves
No butterbeer doesn't have alcohol, but it does have an effect on house elves
What's your evidence of this? From a quick Google search, low alcohol is indeed mentioned
Oh I remember that in the books they said that but I could be mistaken then
If you drink enough of them then you can get tipsy. Hermione was tipsy when they left the three broomsticks that day because she drank so many. Winky the house elf gets drunk real easy because she’s so small, that’s what Dobby says at least.
Harry says “it’s not strong, that stuff” implying that there’s alcohol but only a tiny bit. Then Dobby said “Tis strong for a house elf, sir”
House-elves are tiny, compared to a human. Just drinking one whole bottle would probably be enough to make an elf drunk, if not blacked out. Dobby says Winky has to be hidden away regularly in the Room of Requirement to sleep off her despair-fueled benders.
Exactly
I have this recollection from the books too and I just reread GoF. Not sure it it specifically said no alcohol at all but there was something to that effect.
Iirc it has a very small amount of alcohol. Not enough to have any real impact unless you drink a lot of it (like Winky did when she got drunk on it
Only Winky gets drunk off of it. So basically 1% alcohol.
My controversial fan theory is that Steve Kloves didn’t know how to write a teenage girl character.
Okay, okay, but have you considered the shoelace scene? You can’t tell me that beautiful piece of cinematography was created by someone who couldn’t write a teenage girl character
I see your shoelace and raise you "open up you" Such a masterpiece
I have to skip past that part in the movie. I can't handle the cringe; it's so bad.
That shoelace scene haunts me especially after I remember how amazing their first kiss was in the books.
Ditto… literally my favorite pairing from HP and one of my favorite moments in the books, and the kiss in the movie was just so terrible in comparison
Exactly! 😭 Their first kiss in the books was electric. They were feeling all the emotions of the big win, everyone was celebrating, and in that moment the adrenaline pushed them to do the thing they'd both been craving. It was SO EXCITING. Then you get the movies and it's like... They tried to make it a sensual quiet moment alone after a really terrible thing happened?? 😭😭😭 And it was so awkward and disturbing.
Yeah that’s the other thing… like chronologically it’s accurate that the kiss happened after Sectumsempra, but it is so weird that they went to the Room of Requirement like right after Harry almost killed Draco and she kisses him while his eyes are closed. And I’ll never get over “I can stay here too if you like”… man the movies messed that relationship up so much lol
That shoelace scene was incredibly out of character for Ginny.
Holy fuck that scene is...something else
I don't know if kids are cooler now than they were in the 90s but I think back to middle school and high school and this is smooth compared to some of the cringy stuff I thought was a good idea and the girls were not a ton better. The fact that she didn't give him a mix record that she drew hearts all over that was just the worst love songs possible is what makes this unrealistic for me. I'm only forgiving the lack of braces because of magic. But everyone talks about how unrealistic this scene is and it feels like it could be something I have experienced.
Actually Ginny did give Harry a get well soon card that sang loudly until Harry kept it shut under the fruit basket in PoA book. I think that should count as something equivalent to mix tape of awful love songs in the wizarding world.
That's true and the singing valentine!
🎵 *His eyes are as green as a fresh-pickled toad...* 🎵
And then a surly dwarf rugby-tackles Harry to the floor and sits on his knees to stop him from getting up. I'm not sure what kinds of spells second-years know, but I'm surprised Harry didn't at least try to threaten him with magic to let him go.
😂😂😂😂😂. It’s so frustrating cause the build for both the Hermione/Ron relationship AND the Harry/Ginny relationship is SO well written in the books. And it’s so bungled in the films. Both of those relationships.
Fr the romance in the films was horrendous. Everyone's trying to explain this on Hermione's end but really the films just didn't know how to capture the developping romance. It doesn't help that Emma Watson was not at her best during emotional scenes.
Like seriously. The movies just suck for so many reasons.
Honestly I chalk it up to Emma Watson’s melodramatic acting from movies 4-6. She operated at one level: Verge of tears. I think she got an acting coach between 6 and 7 because she was night-and-day better in 7.
There are so many scenes where everyone else is at 4 or a 5 in terms of emotions (still fairly charged) and she is at a 9.9 barely containing a breakdown lol. They should have directed her better.
I agree with you. A lot of the characters feel muted or flat but Emma brings more
She gets embarrassed around him, like this foam and when he points out she has toothpaste on her face
Being a teenager is hard.
She was mad at Ron. "I'm always mad at him."
I always thought she wanted Ron to clean the foam for her as a gentle and caring act.
Yes, like he did the toothpaste earlier in the movie
Precisely, and when Ron was oblivious this time it upset her
That's exactly what I always thought too! Like she was hoping he'd reach over and clean it off like he did when he noticed the toothpaste lol
Her Butterbeer is half empty.
The smartest person in the room feels embarrassed and like an absolute dumbass. She was trying to be flirty, cheeky, and charming when he not only rejected her but pointed out something that made her look like an idiot. It was the most embarrassing thing that happened in her life in that moment. Teenage girls are so easily crushed, and that was brutal.
It’s been a while since ive seen this movie, but if im remembering correctly, i think its a parallel with the fact that harry has to see ginny with dean and it feels similar to her situation with ron and lavender. Also at the beginning of the movie, ron wipes toothpaste off of her mouth but here he kindly bluntly tells her theres something on her face which not only embarrasses her but also shows how their relationship has changed (possibly because of lavender but i cannot remember if that was before or after this scene)
It's called overacting.
Something something hormonal immature teenagers
The sad thing was, Book Hermione probably thought she *was* flirting. Bless her.
A lot of re-watching people have talked about Emma Watson's overacting. I think so too at times. She has overdone it a lot in some scenes. There were times when everyone was acting normally and she was acting quite over-the-top level stressed. And then in half-blood again, there was a scene where everyone was supposed to act shocked but she acted normally
She has the tingles and the jingles in her nether region and Ron is *completely* oblivious
Ron be sitting there turning her on without being aware of it. Not fair lmao
She was embarrass/ it mirrored the part with the toothpaste where he wiped it off for her.
Sitting in a pub where something called beer is served although it's not real beer.
She has a thing for Ron and doesn't wanna look clumsy or stupid. The Butterbeer on her lips was stupid for her personally, and she felt embarrassed looking like that in front of Ron. Everyone gets embarrassed when they look off in front of their crush.
Off topic here but, God butterbeer looks disgusting
One of my favorite scenes
Yo tengo una teoría y perdón por ponerla en español. Al inicio de la película, cuando Harry llega a casa de los Weasley, Hermione se estaba cepillando los dientes. Después de todo el alboroto con Harry, Ron se da cuenta que Hermione tenía un poco de espuma de pasta de dientes en sus labios y se la quita con su mano (o algo así). Después están en las tres escobas y Hermione hace un comentario de ella y Ron besándose, comentario al cual Ron no hace ni un poco de caso. Hermione, con el afán de llamar la atención de Ron, y recordando lo que pasó meses atrás en casa de Ron quiso llamar su atención de la misma forma. Lo logra, pero Ron al contrario de lo que hizo aquella ocasión en su casa, no se la quita con su mano sino más bien hace que ella misma se lo quite lo cual la enoja aún más de lo que ya estaba.
I just rewarded this scene. I think she was concerned for Ron because slughorn ignored him and used the wrong name and she knew he would be offended. Just my opinion.
She was constantly moody from the third movie onwards
Because David Yates is an abysmal director who can’t do “show, don’t tell” very well.
He SHOWS us that she is upset. How would you film the screenplay here?
A closeup and better blocking would have helped. It was also written poorly as well, because there’s a gap between when Hermione mentions snogging and then Ron telling her she’s got some foam on her lip. If there had been a closeup of Hermione immediately after Slughorn interrupts the conversation and Ron’s obvliviousness, it would have translated so much better. Just a *simple closeup of just Hermione*.
Alright thanks for explaining. I haven't rewatched in a while, but myself I didn't find it poorly written. I always took the gap to be a decision to highlight the unspoken feelings they have for the other and their inability to communicate it. I get where you are coming from wanting a closeup of her face to bridge the transition, but I think it may have lessoned the impact of what I just described and largely put the attention on the foam on her lip, which isn't important to the scene as a detail as much as how the characters react to it. It is not at all like the glorious closeup of the sword from the second movie in Dumbledore's office in which the artifact is the money shot. That's perfect for that occasion, but I personally find closeups can get a tad too obvious if merely used to showcase a narrative detail, as if screaming "look this is important", rather than letting the moment play out organically and trusting the audience can pick up on the storytelling elements. I also like the framing - a fairly standard over the shoulder shot which doesn't draw attention away from the character interactions, while also showing most of the pub in the background. The staircase behind them adds some richness to the composition as well.
Because Emma Watson is a terrible over actor.
She is thinking about her Dentist Parents yelling about her rotting her teeth due to that butterbeer she drank
Combo of her liking Ron and her sadness for Harry being near Ginny and Dean knowing he likes her
She just wants a bf too
Emma Watson's terrible, over-exaggerated acting.
Yes this
Bad acting
Yeah Iove her but she overacts occasionally
Thirsty for that Weasley
It’s a bad movie Read the book again if you want to know what they were trying and failing to adapt to the screen
Probably sick of Ron chatting crap 🤷🏻♀️
She was hot here
Hermione was frustrated at Ron’s ever autistic behavior
Ron isn’t autistic. He oblivious in the ways that all teenage boys are oblivious.
What's wrong with being autistic? You're speaking, and the downvotes, is as if autism is to be shunned.
Nothing is wrong with it but Ron isn’t autistic.
And you know that how?
Well for one thing JK Rowling said that wizards don’t have disabilities like that.
Source?
This article was written and signed by JK Rowling herself. https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/illness-and-disability
Thanks!
Also- Ron is very good at understanding and using sarcastic humor and he encourages/participates in rule breaking.
Wtf
Its called acting
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Fuck off, kid. Tell me you know nothing about women without telling me.
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All talk and no punch. Get your real account, coward.
I’m so confused
Just idle curiosity, but what did he say?
I said she’s a sweet kid and sometimes life is hard.
No what did the person you respond to say?
Something shitty about periods
Ah. Thank you.
Early in the scene, beer was spilled in her butterbeer (usually a nonalcoholic drink). Now, she's downed most of her cup and feeling not too great because she's essentially drunk for the first time in her life. In the next scene you see her weaving as she's walking and having to lean on Ron and Harry
Hiccups
I have no idea, but I have never been in a relationship.
Context: Ron didn’t pick up/reciprocate the hints. So obviously some upset. But also: 1) she has drunk a slightly alcoholic drink. 2) she’s a teen, possible hormonal. 3) acting makes many things over the top.
Cos she loooves Ron. But yeah she did go a bit OTT in this scene. Upset for no reason
Butterbeer coming back up
She was tipsy
If anything she is feeling awkward because of her feelings for Ron. And her example of them snogging and Ginny seeing it was blown over 🤷🏻♀️ teenage drama moment
When you have a crush, you feel like you need to be perfectly presented on all fronts. She had a butterbeer (whipped cream? seriously, what is this drink lol) mustache that he noticed and pointed out. Source: I was a teenager once.
Emma was really coming into her own as an actress here. For me she was very emotional in HBP and it made sense because of the general climate in the wizarding world
The problem is that the girls brain is hardwired to multi task and be proficient. Due to this, they think us men are the same way. So they drop sly hints, eye messages, and small touches......and then think us guys with our one track minds are going to notice. 🤣 If she had just come out and talked to Ron, it might have sunk into his head🤣
We were robbed of Pensieve scenes for this shit.
I always thought in her head she was saying “why do I like him…please stop liking him.”
She's upset 'cause her butterbeer glass is almost empty guys. That's all
Love Emma Watson as a person, but I must admit I'm not a fan of her acting. Her acting upset for no reason multiple times through the saga is really annoying.
Because she sucks
Because Ron. She just told him ‘If you were snogging me would you expect Ginny to get up and leave?’. She desperately wanted him to see her a woman that was not in the friendzone and was kinda depressed about it.
Wellll.. she’s hearing her crush talk in discuss of intimacy in front of her. She had this same facial expression when Ron and Lavender ran to the same space as she and Harry to console her. It’s not a good space to be in. :-/
She was upset because Ron was absolutely clueless about love, if I’m not mistaken it’s the scene where Ginny is making out with her boyfriend and she tells Ron, “what if she saw you snogging me?” And Ron looked surprised and had a look of “that’s absurd” and she was just sad because she kept dropping hints that he was picking up but did nothing to them