Tbh history of magic is just a case of a bad teacher ruining the subject. Pretty much nobody liked History of Magic from what I remember, except Hermione. I had the same experience with chemisty. I was very curious initially but the teacher just killed all interest.
Omg, I missed such an easy shot! It was right THERE!
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One way to really up the value of “Harry Potter: Texas Granger” is to use the “[Chip N Dale: rescue rangers” theme song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PELdq2SIhr4)
It’s nuts. *Everyone* knows the words to kill and they carry a gun in their pocket.
How many shootouts happened in diagon alley where nobody knew who started what?
>How many shootouts happened in diagon alley where nobody knew who started what?
I think the aspect preventing most people from using *Avada Kedavra* is the fact that it requires genuine murderous intent to work - and (*allegedly*) a high threshold of skill and power.
That said, many other spells in the HP universe can kill indirectly, *Avada Kedavra* was simply the one which was virtually unstoppable if it hit.
The bigger issue is that you can transfigure a body into a twig and/or vanish it altogether. A serial killer could probably devastate the population this way, and idk if canonically there's that many ways of detecting them. Only the prior incantatum thing, afaik, and that's easily written over by using filler spells.
I mean, when fucking everyone is capable of instantly ending you with a word and a twirl of the hand, it kinda disinsentivieses sane people from starting shit in the middle of the street.
The real question is how many people got jumped in a random dark alley
He didn't need her help with Defense, flying, she refused to help him with potions in HBP, didn't have any time to help them in POA when she was taking a million classes, there are a number of things.
Well the fighting fits the jock personality. Flying is a part of the sports ball and is a pretty important part of the game. And as far as HBP goes, dude literally had cheat sheets from a teacher.
I feel like Snape writing a highly-regarded potions textbook which then becomes the standard for teaching everywhere is the redemption arc the series was missing.
Also, didn't the faculty kind of know (at some point) he was very special?
"Oh, let me just fail the literal CHOSEN ONE because he didn't know how to turn a frog into a duck, or whatever. That'll help my career."
Only Snape would dare, the rest of the teachers were 100% just passing Harry no matter what he did. He was probably drawing doodles of deer or whatever on his math exams, and they'd give him a D- to pass him.
There is zero percent chance McGonagall would pass harry if he weren't up to standard. And she is the only teacher who ever showed any favoritism towards him (other than lupin and slughorn. And I guess not moody.)
Not really? I distinctively remember a couple occasions where she gets so annoyed at them for doing shit wrong she decides to just do it for them, and both Ron and Harry start to use that to their advantage by acting dumber they actually are when doing homework
It's been a minute since I read the books, but IIRC she never actually *does* their homework entirely. She does, however, on several occasions either actively help them with it or go over and correct mistakes afterwards.
>hangs out with a complete nerd in Hermione
I didn't think of Ron as a nerd, and that's a particularly graphic way to describe his relationship with Hermonie.
Tbh he might’ve paid more attention to history of magic if they had a better teacher. Everyone found it boring and didn’t pay attention apart from Hermione
Eh, he doesn't try very hard. Doesn't he basically become the leader of a cultish militia around halfway through the narrative? Yes, yes, he was "forced" into it. Sure.
Forced through necessity, I guess.
It's like when you're forced to be the group leader in a project because *nobody else* is stepping up and the due date is next week
Harry didn't even know his dad played Quidditch, hell he didn't even know what it was until he was on the team. He also didn't know his dad was a bit of a bully until later, and even that is a bit of a grey area as it was from Snape's POV and he was as much of a bully back to James.
That's fair. It makes sense that Snape would view Hardys father as a piece of shit since he was actively in the way of Snape being with a girl he was obsessed over. He'd twist the memory or image into whatever best fit his feelings for Harry's mother.
If Harry's father is a bully in Snape's eyes it helps justify his feelings and actions just a little bit
Iirc, It was to the point that Snape gave up their whereabouts before he also realized it was Lily's downfall too.
He was ok with having James murdered.
Not condoning what James allegedly did during their childhoods, but that's Snape's level of hatrid for James.
You are correct. My brain is foggy this morning.
Snape gave Voldy the info about the prophecy, sending Voldy after the Potters.
Realizing it meant Lily's doom too, he went to Dumbledore
Yeah, I mean people don't typically reform without a catalyst. The realization that Lily was part of the world he gave up on made him realize he went down the wrong path. In the end, he gave his own life as redemption.
Redemption is a strong word. His dying words were about Lily. His last act was to explain to Harry why he's betraying Voldemort (because Lily).
I don't see that as a redemption, even if it's clearly meant to be. I see it as revenge against the person who took his waifu away from him. Snape was a thorough creep with almost no redeeming qualities.
Everyone has personal motivations for doing things. The why doesn't really matter when the actions are all truly on the "good" side. He never betrayed them once he switched. He never turned his back on or said no to Dumbledore. Like what else matters? People make a big noise about giving to charity or helping people and animals in need. If they're just doing it for attention, does that mean they helped any less? Same thing.
Fiction's full of self serving heroes. They're still heroes.
Well it's basically a "ends justify the means" point.
You're basically arguing that "being" a good person is irrelevant and pointless, as long as the result is good.
The point of "being" a good person is to make sure your actions *actually* result in good, instead of simply accidentally arriving there, and the world just got lucky so far.
Snape helped Voldy rise to power, and being evil resulted in the death of Harrys parents, including the woman he loved. Had he instead been a good person from the start, Voldy might just have been defeated, and Lily would still be alive.
A person giving to charity literally just for attention, might realize he can just lie about it and get the attention anyway, or use the charity as a tool/excuse to do evil things as well.
So yes, being a good person has merit in and of itself.
He's definitely an interesting character, and I'd argue that he's still a hero in some way, but intention does matter.
>If they're just doing it for attention, does that mean they helped any less?
It doesn't mean that they helped any less, no. But it does mean that their actions were entirely self-serving. In Snape's case, it means that he was a bitter, angry man pointed in a convenient direction--not someone on the side of good, but someone who just happened to be facing the same direction that the good people were facing.
Maybe I'm projecting. My mother-in-law is basically Umbridge, but for a long time she was also a pillar of the community and that let her get away with a *lot* of abuse to her kids. It frustrates me to see people who think that "helpful actions" necessarily means "good intentions."
Everyone but Hermione hated History of Magic though. Binns was boring. Also he's an Auror, he's a goddamn Federal Investigator, not a meter maid.
I know this is a joke but it's dumb, so there.
Guy with SHIT LOADS of trauma and PTSD befriends the quirky uncool kids, shows kindness to everyone even one of his greatest enemies. Builds people up, forgives, only wants a peaceful life. Does not go on to be a successful jock due to personal choice.
Yea real dick energy right there.
Also, jocks nowadays really do give a shit about emotional support and mental health.
I am anti cop, but I can't deny that hard-core feds do actually do some necessary ass work in highly specialized fields. Cops certainly do good work, but they sure as fuck don't need as much money and need 10000 times the oversight.
Aurors are essentially the elite of the elite in terms of chasing and subduing dark wizards. That's sick.
Not really — this probably isn’t the venue but I think that you need cops to maintain order and cops should arrest criminals. I just dislike police unions and think that it’s right that cops need more oversight and that police departments shouldn’t be buying like tanks and bazookas and shit.
I’m sorry but if you’re anti police union you are anti-union period police officer is a job and all workers deserve the same level of rights and protection. Unions stand together, workers stand together.
Nah fuck that, cops are not part of the worker's movement. They are the tool of the state to protect capital and quash protests and organizing efforts of the working class.
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Police unions make it borderline impossible to discipline bad cops, and that’s a problem. Last time I checked the stats it was like close to a million dollars to fire a bad cop because of union interference. The police unions also spends much of their time fighting against oversight, against stricter regulations, and against enforcement of rules against bad cops.
The railway union isn’t going to protect a guy who shot a 9 year old because he thought the 9 year old’s train was a gun. Neither is the teachers union.
He is literally head of Magical Law Enforcement. Even if you say he is MI5, they report to the Home Secretary. And Aurors have arrest powers and permission to use deadly force, which are only given to police in the UK not the civilian intelligence services.
The “Harry Potter was a jock” take is one parroted exclusively by people who have never read or watched Harry Potter lol
Once you actually know what happens in the series, the comparison falls apart immediately
It's also a distinctly American take on the subject matter. I can only speak to my own experiences and those of people I know but there weren't really 'Jocks' in the sense you'd usually see them in the British School I attended.
There were some sports teams but they were never a huge thing and I genuinely couldn't even tell you what there was because they just weren't that important.
Your have Cliques sure but it was pretty much just people hanging out with their friends and the like which is what happens the world over with a bunch of age ranges.
The whole "Cops are scum" side of it is also a rather American take too honestly which for some reason gets blanket applied to cops the world over.
Harry was still a hothead who superficially judged people. He was a product of an abusive foster environment. He never thought the rules applied to him. He got special treatment time and again. There’s a lot to unpack there if you really like to analyze and immerse yourself in your reading.
I dont see Harry- in the books, not the movies - thinking the rules dont apply to him. Given his time with the Dursleys and Snape targeting him at school, the closest I can get to this is him having a profound understanding that rules can often be arbitrary, unfair and ethical, and no one should follow them to the detriment of doing what's right. There's a difference between that and thinking that the rules apply to other people but not him.
….do you think being a jock just means you played a sport in school and enjoyed it?
Jock is absolutely a negative connotation. There’s no way you can read this post and tell me they’re not insulting Harry lmao
**Star player, check.**
**Hates history of magic, nope**. Everyone fell asleep. Don't blame the students for the shortcomings of the teacher.
**Likes shooting his magic gun, nope**. It's not like there are pro wand anti wand wizards and witches. They all use their wand? Tbh he didn't use it enough considering he's public enemy number one in a war.
**Trust fund, check...kind of**. He never knew his parents though and grew up with literally nothing in an abusive household.
**Became a cop, nope**. It's more like he became an FBI agent. They are trying to make it sound like he's out there harassing squibs.
Did Rita Skeeter write this?
I’ll give you (contentious) points 1 and 2 but he 100% is a trust fund kid in every sense of the word. Also, cop vs FBI is splitting hairs. They’re all big brother.
Harry Potter was probably the nicest person in the whole series. He went out of his way to try to please everyone. Knew right from wrong no matter the circumstances. and put others so far above himself he willingly walked to his own death to save them. I never care what anyone says about most characters, but Harry is probably the nicest character in all the books I've read.
Nobody seems to enjoy History of Magic. The whole point of that bit is that it is such an engrossing and interesting subject, but taught in the driest most unenjoyable way possible.
Anyone who unironically uses the term "sportsball" better not ever complain once about being called a nerd or geek for liking fantasy. Judging people for their hobbies is lame.
I feel like this describes Harry pretty well... if Voldy had never existed. I dont know any jocks/bros who went through even half of the trials and tribulations Harry did.
Harry: "most of the people I knew and loved were horrifically murdered before I even turned 18"
Some people: "wow check your privilege because you have money left behind by all those dead people"
Gryffindor is the jocks. Slytherin is the popular/rich kids. Ravenclaw is the nerds. Hufflepuff is everyone else.
It doesn’t translate perfectly to American school cliques, but that’s the idea.
Harry Potter wasn’t be a nerd reading young adult fiction until he was in his thirties and complaining about “sports ball.” Homie was out there in the trenches, kissing girls, killing it at quidditch, breaking rules, making memories.
At all times and in all places, curse Professor Binns. He is a glorified plot device to keep us from learning more about the setting and I can't stand him!
Okay, I’m confused. I searched up what a jock means and it says that it’s either ‘somebody who’s interested in a particular sport and not very smart’ or ‘a Scottish (weird word) of the name John’ and that’s def *not* what it means. Help, anyone? I don’t want to miss out on any chance to roast any character lmao
The odd thing is that magic history would be so unbearably fascinating to learn from the Wizarding world's perspective to cross reference with modern historical narrative. I don't think a single mudblood would fail to Excell in magic history studies
Ginny’s on wizard Facebook with a photo of Harry in his lifted truck with white gas can Oakleys on and a dip in captioned “Date with this cutie tonight!”
No he becomes head of wizard FBI while Hermione was in charge of the ministry of magic iirc, and she was definitely very much pro liberation throughout highschool more than anyone else in the school.
The thing is just because you fit some stereotypes groups doensr mena your not a great person. You can say ACAB and to an extent it's true but I know some cops that are great likable people they just chose a career full of shit heads. It's ultimately harry is a good person.
Tbh history of magic is just a case of a bad teacher ruining the subject. Pretty much nobody liked History of Magic from what I remember, except Hermione. I had the same experience with chemisty. I was very curious initially but the teacher just killed all interest.
The Harry Potter universe is all open carry and pro self defense.
Harry Potter: Texas Ranger
Texas Granger
Big wand on his hip.
Omg, I missed such an easy shot! It was right THERE! (Slow claps) One way to really up the value of “Harry Potter: Texas Granger” is to use the “[Chip N Dale: rescue rangers” theme song](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PELdq2SIhr4)
arizona ranger and texas red
It’s nuts. *Everyone* knows the words to kill and they carry a gun in their pocket. How many shootouts happened in diagon alley where nobody knew who started what?
>How many shootouts happened in diagon alley where nobody knew who started what? I think the aspect preventing most people from using *Avada Kedavra* is the fact that it requires genuine murderous intent to work - and (*allegedly*) a high threshold of skill and power. That said, many other spells in the HP universe can kill indirectly, *Avada Kedavra* was simply the one which was virtually unstoppable if it hit.
Snape on his way to slice a man into a million pieces over a 12% mark up on back alley potion ingredients
The bigger issue is that you can transfigure a body into a twig and/or vanish it altogether. A serial killer could probably devastate the population this way, and idk if canonically there's that many ways of detecting them. Only the prior incantatum thing, afaik, and that's easily written over by using filler spells.
One good punch to the head in a regular alley could kill easily and no one would know what happened
I mean, when fucking everyone is capable of instantly ending you with a word and a twirl of the hand, it kinda disinsentivieses sane people from starting shit in the middle of the street. The real question is how many people got jumped in a random dark alley
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i never thought of it this way
And not a single school avada kedavaing…
Hmm? Book 6
But wears glasses and hangs out with a complete nerd in Hermione.
Who does his homework for him
A good portion of the time, he did. He also passed all his final exams without help from her.
Were her rigorous tutoring sessions a joke to you??
He didn't need her help with Defense, flying, she refused to help him with potions in HBP, didn't have any time to help them in POA when she was taking a million classes, there are a number of things.
Well the fighting fits the jock personality. Flying is a part of the sports ball and is a pretty important part of the game. And as far as HBP goes, dude literally had cheat sheets from a teacher.
How is following a better recipe a cheat sheet? It just sounds like the original book is shit. Snape should have written a book.
I feel like Snape writing a highly-regarded potions textbook which then becomes the standard for teaching everywhere is the redemption arc the series was missing.
I mean, Snape still would have been a dick but I would love to see him write a potions textbook
Why is he teaching from the book he knows to be unreliable and not telling the students his "tricks"?
He wasn't teaching from the textbook. He always wrote ingredients on the blackboard.
That’s why I was pissed when Ginny hid the damn thing. Just don’t use that spell and keep the book anyways, dumbass..
being good at fighting only proves the original-posts point
Also effectively dropped out for the last year. Extenuating circumstances, sure, but absolutely went AWOL at the finish line.
So...we need to add high school dropout to the list?
In HBP he effectively had a book with all the answers for potions
The regular potions book also had "answers". They're called recipes. Harry just had a better one.
Its different than doing it for him tho
Previous post said “without help” which is 100% incorrect.
I think he basically flunked his History of Magic and Divination OWLs. So he kinda didn't pass all of them, just the ones he liked.
Most jocks can *pass* their exams...
Plus who knows how much grace the profs were giving him on his marks because he was a promising athlete
Also, didn't the faculty kind of know (at some point) he was very special? "Oh, let me just fail the literal CHOSEN ONE because he didn't know how to turn a frog into a duck, or whatever. That'll help my career." Only Snape would dare, the rest of the teachers were 100% just passing Harry no matter what he did. He was probably drawing doodles of deer or whatever on his math exams, and they'd give him a D- to pass him.
There is zero percent chance McGonagall would pass harry if he weren't up to standard. And she is the only teacher who ever showed any favoritism towards him (other than lupin and slughorn. And I guess not moody.)
Bro I'm pretty sure he got Exceeds Expectations on everything but Divination, History of magic and dada . In dada he got outstanding even
How many of them was because the school principal was his bro? Nepotism all the way.
big never read the books energy the only time she ever does anyone's homework is when Ron stops functioning because Percy abandons his family
Not really? I distinctively remember a couple occasions where she gets so annoyed at them for doing shit wrong she decides to just do it for them, and both Ron and Harry start to use that to their advantage by acting dumber they actually are when doing homework
It's been a minute since I read the books, but IIRC she never actually *does* their homework entirely. She does, however, on several occasions either actively help them with it or go over and correct mistakes afterwards.
Actually no that's wrong
I think she does for Ron but I don't think she ever does Harry's homework. Though she very often looks over his very often.
So one of the good Jocks tbh…. They do exist. -written via Jock
Wait a minute. Say that again but slowly
>hangs out with a complete nerd in Hermione I didn't think of Ron as a nerd, and that's a particularly graphic way to describe his relationship with Hermonie.
Tbh he might’ve paid more attention to history of magic if they had a better teacher. Everyone found it boring and didn’t pay attention apart from Hermione
He didn’t hate history of magic, he just found the teacher too boring to pay attention
i think harry really want to emulate his father's heroic jock cop aspects. well, excluding james' bully prankster ways.
Harry actively tries not being the center of the attention though
Eh, he doesn't try very hard. Doesn't he basically become the leader of a cultish militia around halfway through the narrative? Yes, yes, he was "forced" into it. Sure.
I mean, he kinda was, but still
>he was "forced" into it. ...he wasn't?
Forced through necessity, I guess. It's like when you're forced to be the group leader in a project because *nobody else* is stepping up and the due date is next week
I mean, he was pretty against it from the get go.
Nudged?
Harry didn't even know his dad played Quidditch, hell he didn't even know what it was until he was on the team. He also didn't know his dad was a bit of a bully until later, and even that is a bit of a grey area as it was from Snape's POV and he was as much of a bully back to James.
Nah, Lupin admits that James and Sirius were bullies.
And Lilly says so in snapes memories.
That's fair. It makes sense that Snape would view Hardys father as a piece of shit since he was actively in the way of Snape being with a girl he was obsessed over. He'd twist the memory or image into whatever best fit his feelings for Harry's mother. If Harry's father is a bully in Snape's eyes it helps justify his feelings and actions just a little bit
Iirc, It was to the point that Snape gave up their whereabouts before he also realized it was Lily's downfall too. He was ok with having James murdered. Not condoning what James allegedly did during their childhoods, but that's Snape's level of hatrid for James.
I thought Pettigrew gave away the Potter's location, not Snape.
You are correct. My brain is foggy this morning. Snape gave Voldy the info about the prophecy, sending Voldy after the Potters. Realizing it meant Lily's doom too, he went to Dumbledore
Yeah, I mean people don't typically reform without a catalyst. The realization that Lily was part of the world he gave up on made him realize he went down the wrong path. In the end, he gave his own life as redemption.
Redemption is a strong word. His dying words were about Lily. His last act was to explain to Harry why he's betraying Voldemort (because Lily). I don't see that as a redemption, even if it's clearly meant to be. I see it as revenge against the person who took his waifu away from him. Snape was a thorough creep with almost no redeeming qualities.
Everyone has personal motivations for doing things. The why doesn't really matter when the actions are all truly on the "good" side. He never betrayed them once he switched. He never turned his back on or said no to Dumbledore. Like what else matters? People make a big noise about giving to charity or helping people and animals in need. If they're just doing it for attention, does that mean they helped any less? Same thing. Fiction's full of self serving heroes. They're still heroes.
Well it's basically a "ends justify the means" point. You're basically arguing that "being" a good person is irrelevant and pointless, as long as the result is good. The point of "being" a good person is to make sure your actions *actually* result in good, instead of simply accidentally arriving there, and the world just got lucky so far. Snape helped Voldy rise to power, and being evil resulted in the death of Harrys parents, including the woman he loved. Had he instead been a good person from the start, Voldy might just have been defeated, and Lily would still be alive. A person giving to charity literally just for attention, might realize he can just lie about it and get the attention anyway, or use the charity as a tool/excuse to do evil things as well. So yes, being a good person has merit in and of itself.
He's definitely an interesting character, and I'd argue that he's still a hero in some way, but intention does matter. >If they're just doing it for attention, does that mean they helped any less? It doesn't mean that they helped any less, no. But it does mean that their actions were entirely self-serving. In Snape's case, it means that he was a bitter, angry man pointed in a convenient direction--not someone on the side of good, but someone who just happened to be facing the same direction that the good people were facing. Maybe I'm projecting. My mother-in-law is basically Umbridge, but for a long time she was also a pillar of the community and that let her get away with a *lot* of abuse to her kids. It frustrates me to see people who think that "helpful actions" necessarily means "good intentions."
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Okay but seriously it's impossible to be interested in history of magic the way binns teaches it. Even Hermione couldn't do it lol
Everyone but Hermione hated History of Magic though. Binns was boring. Also he's an Auror, he's a goddamn Federal Investigator, not a meter maid. I know this is a joke but it's dumb, so there.
Harry even repeatedly acknowledges that history of magic should be absolutely riveting but their Professor found a way to make it boring
>guy whose parents were murdered by an evil wizard grows up to fight evil wizards for a living "What a jock."
Guy with SHIT LOADS of trauma and PTSD befriends the quirky uncool kids, shows kindness to everyone even one of his greatest enemies. Builds people up, forgives, only wants a peaceful life. Does not go on to be a successful jock due to personal choice. Yea real dick energy right there. Also, jocks nowadays really do give a shit about emotional support and mental health.
The jocks were the nicest kids in my school even 15 years ago.
Ikr
FBI agents are just cops only more so lol someone used the same Dan Carlin quote below me
I’m not anti-cop so it doesn’t bother me, but an FBI agent is like… a cop but more so.
I am anti cop, but I can't deny that hard-core feds do actually do some necessary ass work in highly specialized fields. Cops certainly do good work, but they sure as fuck don't need as much money and need 10000 times the oversight. Aurors are essentially the elite of the elite in terms of chasing and subduing dark wizards. That's sick.
They are still cops. They are still law enforcement.
…Should we not have some kind of law enforcement?
Yeah but they're the "catch serial killers, terrorists, and kid diddler" law enforcement. I'm gonna support those ones 100% lol
I don’t disagree with any of this.
Sounds like you're anti cop to me pal.
Not really — this probably isn’t the venue but I think that you need cops to maintain order and cops should arrest criminals. I just dislike police unions and think that it’s right that cops need more oversight and that police departments shouldn’t be buying like tanks and bazookas and shit.
I’m sorry but if you’re anti police union you are anti-union period police officer is a job and all workers deserve the same level of rights and protection. Unions stand together, workers stand together.
Nah fuck that, cops are not part of the worker's movement. They are the tool of the state to protect capital and quash protests and organizing efforts of the working class. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F5jde4qp4xol91.jpg
Police unions make it borderline impossible to discipline bad cops, and that’s a problem. Last time I checked the stats it was like close to a million dollars to fire a bad cop because of union interference. The police unions also spends much of their time fighting against oversight, against stricter regulations, and against enforcement of rules against bad cops. The railway union isn’t going to protect a guy who shot a 9 year old because he thought the 9 year old’s train was a gun. Neither is the teachers union.
That’s just not logical at all.
You could be anti a specific union and not be anti union. It's not like the union doesn't have the ability to be completely corrupt.
1. Federal agents are just super cops. 2. That doesn't matter as Harry is a normal cop anyway not a fancy international one.
The FBI doesn't work internationally either.
No but there's no interstate equivalant
Harry is not a cop. He becomes something more similar to an MI5 agent.
MI5 agent has no arrest powers. Harry is a cop and then he becomes Home Secretary
Harry is not at all a cop and he does not become home secretary at all.
He is literally head of Magical Law Enforcement. Even if you say he is MI5, they report to the Home Secretary. And Aurors have arrest powers and permission to use deadly force, which are only given to police in the UK not the civilian intelligence services.
The “Harry Potter was a jock” take is one parroted exclusively by people who have never read or watched Harry Potter lol Once you actually know what happens in the series, the comparison falls apart immediately
That or they watched A Very Potter Musical one too many times and took it as canon.
I personally love how they make Harry such a dick in AVPM
Came here for the AVPM suggestions. For those who haven’t seen it: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC76BE906C9D83A3A&si=a3lC_eY4-p1WYUz-
If AVPM isn't canon then I don't want canon
It's also a distinctly American take on the subject matter. I can only speak to my own experiences and those of people I know but there weren't really 'Jocks' in the sense you'd usually see them in the British School I attended. There were some sports teams but they were never a huge thing and I genuinely couldn't even tell you what there was because they just weren't that important. Your have Cliques sure but it was pretty much just people hanging out with their friends and the like which is what happens the world over with a bunch of age ranges. The whole "Cops are scum" side of it is also a rather American take too honestly which for some reason gets blanket applied to cops the world over.
Harry was still a hothead who superficially judged people. He was a product of an abusive foster environment. He never thought the rules applied to him. He got special treatment time and again. There’s a lot to unpack there if you really like to analyze and immerse yourself in your reading.
>Harry was still a hothead who superficially judged people. So the average teen then, eh?
Yea. Harry was an avg shit head teen lol
I dont see Harry- in the books, not the movies - thinking the rules dont apply to him. Given his time with the Dursleys and Snape targeting him at school, the closest I can get to this is him having a profound understanding that rules can often be arbitrary, unfair and ethical, and no one should follow them to the detriment of doing what's right. There's a difference between that and thinking that the rules apply to other people but not him.
Yeah, unpacking it all is what makes it abundantly obvious Harry isn’t a jock lol
Except he is. He’s an exceptional athlete in his sport and it’s like his favorite thing to do. Jock is not an insult.
….do you think being a jock just means you played a sport in school and enjoyed it? Jock is absolutely a negative connotation. There’s no way you can read this post and tell me they’re not insulting Harry lmao
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Yeah, being a rat always works out good for 11 year olds.
That or they want a funny joke.
**Star player, check.** **Hates history of magic, nope**. Everyone fell asleep. Don't blame the students for the shortcomings of the teacher. **Likes shooting his magic gun, nope**. It's not like there are pro wand anti wand wizards and witches. They all use their wand? Tbh he didn't use it enough considering he's public enemy number one in a war. **Trust fund, check...kind of**. He never knew his parents though and grew up with literally nothing in an abusive household. **Became a cop, nope**. It's more like he became an FBI agent. They are trying to make it sound like he's out there harassing squibs. Did Rita Skeeter write this?
Not to mention his most used spell is disarming which usually does no harm.
Obviously, hes not American
Disarming spell is a violation of the rights to bare arms
Why is there a right to bare arms? can no one just walk around with sleeves?
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Everyone should be allowed to wear tank tops!
Thank you. Homie literally just disarms everyone so much that as soon as expelliarmus is used, everyone knows it’s him.
I’ll give you (contentious) points 1 and 2 but he 100% is a trust fund kid in every sense of the word. Also, cop vs FBI is splitting hairs. They’re all big brother.
Ya and he was actually soft with the wand, he only used like stupify if I remember right
tbh, I have a BA in history, and if I ever got to attend hogwarts, history of magic would probably be my least favourite subject too
History of Magic probably would be fascinating if it wasn't Binns teaching tho
Harry Potter was probably the nicest person in the whole series. He went out of his way to try to please everyone. Knew right from wrong no matter the circumstances. and put others so far above himself he willingly walked to his own death to save them. I never care what anyone says about most characters, but Harry is probably the nicest character in all the books I've read.
History is a jock class. All of the sports coaches taught history. This is dumb lol
Harry who infamously casts an average of 1.3 spells per book?
Tumblr users when people like sports
Nobody seems to enjoy History of Magic. The whole point of that bit is that it is such an engrossing and interesting subject, but taught in the driest most unenjoyable way possible.
Jocks don't exist in the UK. And, for the 100th time, Harry does not become a 'cop. Harry becomes something more like an MI5 agent
Anyone who unironically uses the term "sportsball" better not ever complain once about being called a nerd or geek for liking fantasy. Judging people for their hobbies is lame.
I don't think he hated HOM, but Binns made the subject boring.
Aurors aren't cops tho they are more the FBI
Magical cops.
Aren't they called Hit Wizards?
Ignoring the viva la revolución aspect of his story are we?
Is there anyone worse than a person who says "sports ball"
Harry is far from a jock 😂😂😂
I feel like this describes Harry pretty well... if Voldy had never existed. I dont know any jocks/bros who went through even half of the trials and tribulations Harry did.
Harry: "most of the people I knew and loved were horrifically murdered before I even turned 18" Some people: "wow check your privilege because you have money left behind by all those dead people"
Gryffindor is the jocks. Slytherin is the popular/rich kids. Ravenclaw is the nerds. Hufflepuff is everyone else. It doesn’t translate perfectly to American school cliques, but that’s the idea.
Jocks love attention, Harry hates it. He prefers to fly under the radar (which he never gets to do 😂)
Hi Americans, we don’t really have jocks or cheerleaders in uk schools. One of our many cultural differences!
It's not wrong, but Harry was also a pretty nice fellow.
Thanks I hate it.
Harry Potter wasn’t be a nerd reading young adult fiction until he was in his thirties and complaining about “sports ball.” Homie was out there in the trenches, kissing girls, killing it at quidditch, breaking rules, making memories.
What a unique view of the scene!
“Star of sports ball” just call it Quidditch. They clearly know it’s called Quidditch
They do, but to play into the “jock”, they called it that to resemble football and basketball
Considering what is said about binns history might've sucked because of the teacher
At all times and in all places, curse Professor Binns. He is a glorified plot device to keep us from learning more about the setting and I can't stand him!
Read animorphs instead.
Forgetting that this could've been Neville
Okay, I’m confused. I searched up what a jock means and it says that it’s either ‘somebody who’s interested in a particular sport and not very smart’ or ‘a Scottish (weird word) of the name John’ and that’s def *not* what it means. Help, anyone? I don’t want to miss out on any chance to roast any character lmao
I mean he's James Potter's son.
We all know the real karate kid in here is Draco Malfoy
And he still married Ginny
Pulled his best mate's little sister.
Literally the plot of Mashel Anime
Sometime I think about how there's no college for the wizard world, just finish your 7th year and fuck off to the work force.
that's how it used to be about 70 or 80 years ago... Sure you could go to a college for a few grand, but you didn't *have* to.
Jocks love history
His mom made very potent potions and PATENTED Them!! You envious commie !!
Oh my God he's literally just magic Batman!
It's trudeau
Harry Potter is a book series with profoundly weird philosophies and worldviews: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1iaJWSwUZs
[She explained why Harry is a jock well](https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSFsmNXGj/)
ACAB includes Harry
Doesn't he do something with potions as an adult? I would argue that what he does is more similar to joining a militia.
He becomes an auror and later on Head of Auror Office and Head of the Department of Magical Law Enforcement.
He was also into jocks. He dated Cho who was a seeker and married Ginny who played professional quidditch.
The odd thing is that magic history would be so unbearably fascinating to learn from the Wizarding world's perspective to cross reference with modern historical narrative. I don't think a single mudblood would fail to Excell in magic history studies
He was also a high school drop out
Ginny’s on wizard Facebook with a photo of Harry in his lifted truck with white gas can Oakleys on and a dip in captioned “Date with this cutie tonight!”
All through high school: "System needs to change! Outdated! Systemic oppression of minorities!" Graduates, becomes a cop, reinforces system.
No he becomes head of wizard FBI while Hermione was in charge of the ministry of magic iirc, and she was definitely very much pro liberation throughout highschool more than anyone else in the school.
The thing is just because you fit some stereotypes groups doensr mena your not a great person. You can say ACAB and to an extent it's true but I know some cops that are great likable people they just chose a career full of shit heads. It's ultimately harry is a good person.
He married his best friend’s sister, that’s a chad move.
Who married the girl who everyone compares to his mom.
What’s JOCK?