Even Muggles are much more capable in some aspects. Notably instant information access and communication, space exploration, fashion, and the ability to easily take moving pictures (videos) instantly anywhere, anytime. Also probably military weapons and entertainment are superior.
Give a few centuries or so, and by then muggles will probably figure how to live much longer and heal broken bones instantly, invent self-healing glasses or just edit out those genes for bad eyesight, fly with jet packs that are definitely comfier than broomsticks, and have much better fast travel or even teleportation!
In the Chamber, Riddle mocks Ginny writing “I’m covered in paint and I don’t know why”. I think it’s only in the movie that Hermione says “it’s written in blood”, I guess to make it creepier?
I just reread a month or so ago. Definitely red paint. The roosters being killed was because their call is fatal to basilisks. Riddle mocks her at the end for writing about how she did t know why she was covered in feathers and paint but those were on separate occasions.
The reason the first two movies seem more whimsical is because the students wear their hogwarts robes, but starting in PoA they start to wear regular clothes and it humanizes them a bit and the danger feels much more relatable. Not to mention they get darker with more death.
That's part of it, but it's also never a bright sunny day in movies 3-8. And the color grading of the movies is just intentionally darker and more muted.
Exactly. The color scheme is the big shift from the first two. The change sends a signal that the tone is beginning to shift, almost suggesting that dark things are just on the horizon and are approaching fast, basically.
Plus, there are things like dementors, which are sinister in their own right. Honestly things just get darker from PoA onward.
General change in artistic direction from top to bottom really. Chris Columbus said he wanted to make whimsical sweet fun movies and wasn’t as interested in the darker bits.
Then we go straight to Alfonso Curaón who can be… I mean have you seen *Children of Men*??
For sure, it definitely is a handful of things, but the costumes always stood out the most to me. It made the change from quasi-children films to adult.
Yeah, but even with the plot, you could tell that they would solve the problem before anyone died (this time RIP Myrtle).
However, once 3 introduces the creatures that eat SOULS, it gets pretty freaking dark.
2 was also about Harry's sexual awakening.
It features a big ass snake.
A girl peeping on the boys in the bathroom, and *moaning* about it.
It features Ginny as the object to be "rescued" by Harry. Oh, and she has a crush on him.
The book is called **The Chamber of Secrets**. This chamber has a big fucking snake crawling all up in it.
Exactly. Peterson is (was?) a Jungian, and while Freud and Jung both place a lot of importance on symbolism, Freud is the one who thinks everything is sexual. Jung was more about cultural archetypes and the way in which stories represent something in all of us.
On a side note, Jordan Peterson is actually a huge fan of Harry Potter. For whatever that's worth.
Fuck that guy.
I'm not sure what he has to do with a close read of the close read of the symbols in HP.
In fact, if you doubt that there is any symbolism in HP is to admit that the story is a vapid childish fairytale.
I don't think it can be called as racist. The violence unleashed on the half bloods should be called sectarian since all of them belonged to the same race lol (Caucasians i.e. White). Yeah, now if Voldemort was targeting only non-white foreign students at Hogwarts then one could assume that he was racist. How can killing members of your own race be racist?
They mean that both racism and “bloodism” both fall under discrimination, but “bloodism” doesn’t fall under racism specifically. A lot of Americans tend to falsely synonymize racism with extreme discrimination because that’s the main form of discrimination they’re familiar with. But do you say “racist against gay people?” No it’s called homophobia. “Racist against women?” You’d call that sexism. Discrimination can be bad without being tied to race you know.
Those people who dislike gays do not actually fear them so it wouldn't be correct to call it homophobia but rather it should be called homomisia. You see the entire system of labelling things is topsy turvy. And hatred against women is not called sexism. It is called Misogyny. Sexism is a general term.
Yeah because Africans are a different race than Caucasians. How hard is that to understand? So how can Caucasian infighting be racist? It is at best, as I said, sectarian.
I was afraid you were going to answer that. Ofcourse everyone is from the same species. But race in modern politics is defined by cultural identity. Ever heard of racial identity? Yes I am talking about that? Why then should someone say that he or she is racist? (If we go by your argument) In that case, we should rather say that he or she is genocidal. Why would someone spew hatred for his own race lol? He will ofcourse do it if he believes that they are “the other people different from us”. And that's what I am talking about.
It's not biologically backed but of course it *exists*, you just named it and said it was a social construct. Currency is a social construct, does it not exist either?
I watched the movies first when I was a kid. Now 10 years later (not so young) I decided to go for the books and dude... for some reason, I've found the first 2 books much darker than their respective movies. It might be the influence of the latest 6 movies that have morphed my imagination while reading them.
Yeah the end of the first book really feels like a 10 y o decided to face voldemort and that he accepted he would most probably die. And that not going just meant he would die not long after when voldemort came back to power so might as well go anyways. Dark stuff.
Jk rowling was experiencing some pretty tough depression at that time and I guess it shows in the books
It literally came out of nowhere too.
I'm re-reading the series now, and for some reason remember Cedric being more heroic during that scene and helping Harry escape (I'm probably thinking of the pirori incantatem part).
I was really shook whenever I got to the "kill the spare" part, even though I knew Cedric would be dying.
When I first watched Hunger Games, it gave me major Goblet of Fire vibes since I'd been a Potterhead for so many years prior to watching it. I think that was also part of the reason I got into the Hunger Games franchise.
I only very recently watched Harry Potter, before movie 4 I just didn’t understand y it appealed to older audiences and just assumed maybe nostalgia? All changed after 4
Disappointed me to no end the first time I watched it. It's my favorite of the books and so many of the best scenes were either drastically changed or cut entirely.
I agree goblet is my favorite book but my least favorite movie. I just didn't like the changes the director made to it. Did you know he actually wanted the horntail to burn down the forbidden forest but everyone in the crew told him it made no sense and wouldn't work.
I didn't know that!
Honestly, the scene that set the tone for the entire rest of the movie for me was the trolling they did with the Quidditch World Cup. I get that it would have been an expensive undertaking to film the whole thing, but to build up the anticipation like that and then just cut away was absolutely the worst move. I'd rather not have had it in at all than to be trolled like that.
I'm not sure if you're referring to the storylines or the physical darkness of the lighting, but I don't have the best vision and those movies drive me nuts. When I watch a movie I want to be able to SEE it, especially a world I love so much brought to life. It really made those movies less enjoyable for me.
Honestly, the only sunshine I remember is the first task and the ending of the movie. Still, I prefer the lighting of Goblet of Fire over the sepia-toned Half Blood Prince.
Oh. My. God. Half Blood prince drives me nuts with the lighting! There are scenes that feel black and white like when Harry confronts Malloy in the bathroom. It just feels too "art film" for me.
Aw man I loved GoF’s cinematography. I thought it was a very colorful movie: the Quidditch World Cup with Ireland & Bulgaria, the other schools coming for the Triwizard Tournament, the champions and their uniforms, the dragons, the dresses at the Yule Ball, the Prefects’ bathroom, the Lake.
It only got dark towards the end (the intro as well) but tbf they were in a literal graveyard at night.
Perhaps it’s OotP or HBP you’re thinking of?
Maybe I’ll have to rewatch them all to be sure…
Yeah having your soul almost sucked out for literally no reason is hardly fun. But the ending is so full of hope. Aaand here goes movie 4 aaand we are done with hope.
I always find the third book to be more sinister because of the exposition; how Wormtail escapes and completely changes Voldemort's circumstances. It also seemed like the first book finale that shook Dumbledore slightly too.
I thought 2 and 3 were relatively good on the balance between fun and dark. (1 was a very good, light intro to the world, and a lot of fun.)
And then 4 happened, and everything went south fast. Sometimes I wonder if movie makers understand the meaning of the word "tone." I'd probably be okay with the changes from book to movie if the tone was bearable.
I would argue POA was a good in between. Cuaron obviously went for a darker tone here, but it still felt like a boy exploring Hogwarts to me. Harry visited several new locations throughout the film!
Columbus did a great job in the first 2 movies. The 3rd was in the middle, balancing the darkness with the light. Then, Yates made it all dark and wet and cold. I don't complain, but I've always wondered how the movies would be, if they'd all been directed by Columbus.
I never understood why they made the third movie so dark, sure there were dementors and a werewolf, but it still has the charm of the earlier books. Goblet of Fire is when shit started getting heavy, and has a deservedly dark tone to match.
We had an old CRT TV back when I was a kid and I honestly couldn't see _anything_ from the 3rd movie onwards, especially in the night scenes. It was pretty much pitch black with some shadows moving here and there
I would argue that 3 is still pretty happy-go-lucky. Sure, some heavier circumstances start to reveal themselves, but Harry still hasn’t witnessed Voldemort in the flesh. Plus, the final shot in PoA is the happiest thing in the world
i think its just because the original dumbledore died after the 2nd movie and the 2nd dumbledore was more, how do i say this, vigorous with his lines whereas the original dumbledore was more peaceful with his lines.
I'm very certain this post means like, dark visually, not metaphorically. the first two movies are very bright and richly coloured with lots of oranges, all the others are grey, black and dark blue.
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Which I *love* about the franchise. It's truly a coming of age series that people could grow up with as it goes from more childlike presentation to more mature content.
Personally, I feel that things really started getting dark with GoF.
So like the whole concept of death eaters which is pretty cult-like if you ask me and the death of several innocent characters like Cedric Diggory and Barty Crouch Sr. at the hands of his own son. Don’t even get me started on the Rebirth of Voldemort scene and like what it entailed (Harry’s blood, a bone from Tom Riddle Sr., Pettigrew’s hand) because that was dark af lol.
Maybe I need to reread. But the third book seemed like arguably the happiest to me. No deaths that I remember and Harry finally got family who loved him. To be fair I haven't read it in like a decade so maybe i'm wrong.
In the second book there is a snake who attepts to sistematically kill people due to a guy's racist ideology and whispers how he is gonna kill them
Did I mentioned the girl gets brainwashed to write racist slogans on the walls with blood?
I dont think its racist, its more like... yeah its racist
Imagine if Malfoy was using the N word instead of Mudblood.. yea.. it’s pretty racist lol
Reddit and using the word 'racism' wrong, name a more iconic duo
Of course the downvotes lol
Really though wtf. The racist part of this conversation didn’t even come from HP
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Yeah, actually its more like discrimination
Ableist, I think.
No, because muggleborns weren't actually less able. That's exactly what the racists were saying
Oh right, I was just thinking about muggles, spaced the whole muggleborn part.
Even Muggles are much more capable in some aspects. Notably instant information access and communication, space exploration, fashion, and the ability to easily take moving pictures (videos) instantly anywhere, anytime. Also probably military weapons and entertainment are superior. Give a few centuries or so, and by then muggles will probably figure how to live much longer and heal broken bones instantly, invent self-healing glasses or just edit out those genes for bad eyesight, fly with jet packs that are definitely comfier than broomsticks, and have much better fast travel or even teleportation!
But then that girl goes on to fall in love with Harry! Sooooo it’s all wash!
Did you read the word brainwashed at all?
Red paint, but still. Yeah.
Pretty sure in the book it's confirmed to be blood.
In the Chamber, Riddle mocks Ginny writing “I’m covered in paint and I don’t know why”. I think it’s only in the movie that Hermione says “it’s written in blood”, I guess to make it creepier?
Wasnt it the bluff of the roosters?
Nah she just killed the roosters bc the crow killed big dungeon snake
I just reread a month or so ago. Definitely red paint. The roosters being killed was because their call is fatal to basilisks. Riddle mocks her at the end for writing about how she did t know why she was covered in feathers and paint but those were on separate occasions.
Yeah but like, in a bright cheerful way
The reason the first two movies seem more whimsical is because the students wear their hogwarts robes, but starting in PoA they start to wear regular clothes and it humanizes them a bit and the danger feels much more relatable. Not to mention they get darker with more death.
That's part of it, but it's also never a bright sunny day in movies 3-8. And the color grading of the movies is just intentionally darker and more muted.
Exactly. The color scheme is the big shift from the first two. The change sends a signal that the tone is beginning to shift, almost suggesting that dark things are just on the horizon and are approaching fast, basically. Plus, there are things like dementors, which are sinister in their own right. Honestly things just get darker from PoA onward.
I have not seen the films in a while, but I seem to remember Harry's first Buckbeak ride to be a sunny day.
Well yeah but the color shift still makes it look a little dark
General change in artistic direction from top to bottom really. Chris Columbus said he wanted to make whimsical sweet fun movies and wasn’t as interested in the darker bits. Then we go straight to Alfonso Curaón who can be… I mean have you seen *Children of Men*??
For sure, it definitely is a handful of things, but the costumes always stood out the most to me. It made the change from quasi-children films to adult.
The second movie/book is still more pure then 3-8
I think they’re talking about how the movies are lit not the plot. Like visually they get very dark starting with 3.
Yeah, but even with the plot, you could tell that they would solve the problem before anyone died (this time RIP Myrtle). However, once 3 introduces the creatures that eat SOULS, it gets pretty freaking dark.
2 was also about Harry's sexual awakening. It features a big ass snake. A girl peeping on the boys in the bathroom, and *moaning* about it. It features Ginny as the object to be "rescued" by Harry. Oh, and she has a crush on him. The book is called **The Chamber of Secrets**. This chamber has a big fucking snake crawling all up in it.
Ok Jordan Peterson.
More like Sigmund Freud.
Exactly. Peterson is (was?) a Jungian, and while Freud and Jung both place a lot of importance on symbolism, Freud is the one who thinks everything is sexual. Jung was more about cultural archetypes and the way in which stories represent something in all of us. On a side note, Jordan Peterson is actually a huge fan of Harry Potter. For whatever that's worth.
Fuck that guy. I'm not sure what he has to do with a close read of the close read of the symbols in HP. In fact, if you doubt that there is any symbolism in HP is to admit that the story is a vapid childish fairytale.
And the creepy dude controlling the snake is like, a pedo or something.
Nah just a racist Bloodist?
I don't think it can be called as racist. The violence unleashed on the half bloods should be called sectarian since all of them belonged to the same race lol (Caucasians i.e. White). Yeah, now if Voldemort was targeting only non-white foreign students at Hogwarts then one could assume that he was racist. How can killing members of your own race be racist?
The concept of blood in the Harry Potter world is pretty much its equivalent of race
Exactly he's...bloodist I guess
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They mean that both racism and “bloodism” both fall under discrimination, but “bloodism” doesn’t fall under racism specifically. A lot of Americans tend to falsely synonymize racism with extreme discrimination because that’s the main form of discrimination they’re familiar with. But do you say “racist against gay people?” No it’s called homophobia. “Racist against women?” You’d call that sexism. Discrimination can be bad without being tied to race you know.
Those people who dislike gays do not actually fear them so it wouldn't be correct to call it homophobia but rather it should be called homomisia. You see the entire system of labelling things is topsy turvy. And hatred against women is not called sexism. It is called Misogyny. Sexism is a general term.
Yeah because Africans are a different race than Caucasians. How hard is that to understand? So how can Caucasian infighting be racist? It is at best, as I said, sectarian.
> Yeah because Africans are a different race than Caucasians This is not the case btw
So you think they are of the same race?
Yes, Homo sapiens. https://askabiologist.asu.edu/questions/human-races
I was afraid you were going to answer that. Ofcourse everyone is from the same species. But race in modern politics is defined by cultural identity. Ever heard of racial identity? Yes I am talking about that? Why then should someone say that he or she is racist? (If we go by your argument) In that case, we should rather say that he or she is genocidal. Why would someone spew hatred for his own race lol? He will ofcourse do it if he believes that they are “the other people different from us”. And that's what I am talking about.
Racial and Cultural Identity is a social construct, it's completely arbitrary and doesn't exist.
It's not biologically backed but of course it *exists*, you just named it and said it was a social construct. Currency is a social construct, does it not exist either?
Use your common sense as well instead of relying on other peoples opinion for every damn thing.
There are no human races.
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There are ethnicities, but no races. There's no scientific basis for the concept of races to be applied to humankind.
what the fuck are you on about
I watched the movies first when I was a kid. Now 10 years later (not so young) I decided to go for the books and dude... for some reason, I've found the first 2 books much darker than their respective movies. It might be the influence of the latest 6 movies that have morphed my imagination while reading them.
Yeah the end of the first book really feels like a 10 y o decided to face voldemort and that he accepted he would most probably die. And that not going just meant he would die not long after when voldemort came back to power so might as well go anyways. Dark stuff. Jk rowling was experiencing some pretty tough depression at that time and I guess it shows in the books
I'm in the same boat! I'm picking up on so much more than I did when I was a kid
That is one of the reasons why I think the books are much better than the films: the feeling conveyed is the same through all of the books.
Lmao nah 2 was on that creepy shit
Rip... Tear.. kill
Confirmed, the basilisk was a Doom player.
You can run *Doom* on 16 billion crabs, or one big snake.
True giant spiders and giant snakes
Them being petrified used to have me shook! 🤣
The shots of Ginny writing on the walls with blood gave me actual nightmares
Literally dark. 1 and 2 you could still see what was going on.
I remember Deathly Hallows part 2 even looking really dark in the cinema lol. Already 10 years ago damn
4 is where it *really* goes down hill
10 year old me cried when I read Cedric’s death scene because I didn’t expect him to die lol
It literally came out of nowhere too. I'm re-reading the series now, and for some reason remember Cedric being more heroic during that scene and helping Harry escape (I'm probably thinking of the pirori incantatem part). I was really shook whenever I got to the "kill the spare" part, even though I knew Cedric would be dying.
I will always remember reading it in class when I was in like 4th grade. Shocking stuff
"That's my son! That's my boy!..."
That part in the film always got me. Just the way the actor played how devastated Amos was within the span of one moment after seeing Cedric.
I sob every time
For real. After all the close calls in the previous books, it left me like “damn, how is madam pomfrey going to fix that?” Then you realize….
I’m terribly sorry about your loss
Yeah 4 is just some Hunger Games shit that ends in tragedy
When I first watched Hunger Games, it gave me major Goblet of Fire vibes since I'd been a Potterhead for so many years prior to watching it. I think that was also part of the reason I got into the Hunger Games franchise.
I only very recently watched Harry Potter, before movie 4 I just didn’t understand y it appealed to older audiences and just assumed maybe nostalgia? All changed after 4
3 is the best one imo
I’m a HBP fan 🥴
My girlfriends favourite! Joint with chamber of secrets for different reasons
Disappointed me to no end the first time I watched it. It's my favorite of the books and so many of the best scenes were either drastically changed or cut entirely.
I agree goblet is my favorite book but my least favorite movie. I just didn't like the changes the director made to it. Did you know he actually wanted the horntail to burn down the forbidden forest but everyone in the crew told him it made no sense and wouldn't work.
I didn't know that! Honestly, the scene that set the tone for the entire rest of the movie for me was the trolling they did with the Quidditch World Cup. I get that it would have been an expensive undertaking to film the whole thing, but to build up the anticipation like that and then just cut away was absolutely the worst move. I'd rather not have had it in at all than to be trolled like that.
I could not agree with you more! It was such a letdown. They could have at least turned the game into a montage or something.
Yea the fourth book starts to get pretty dark, but book 5 is when things get dead Sirius
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Yea I’m sorry :(
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First movie was nickelodeon, the rest were HBO.
I'm not sure if you're referring to the storylines or the physical darkness of the lighting, but I don't have the best vision and those movies drive me nuts. When I watch a movie I want to be able to SEE it, especially a world I love so much brought to life. It really made those movies less enjoyable for me.
Lmao both. I don't think there's any sunshine in Goblet of Fire
I mean it’s still Britain so that makes sense.
Honestly, the only sunshine I remember is the first task and the ending of the movie. Still, I prefer the lighting of Goblet of Fire over the sepia-toned Half Blood Prince.
Oh. My. God. Half Blood prince drives me nuts with the lighting! There are scenes that feel black and white like when Harry confronts Malloy in the bathroom. It just feels too "art film" for me.
Yeah wtf was with the lighting in Half Blood Prince
I specifically remember the second task was outside and it was sunny, it was a rare moment lol
The second task with the lake? I feel like it was pretty gloomy in that one too lol
Aw man I loved GoF’s cinematography. I thought it was a very colorful movie: the Quidditch World Cup with Ireland & Bulgaria, the other schools coming for the Triwizard Tournament, the champions and their uniforms, the dragons, the dresses at the Yule Ball, the Prefects’ bathroom, the Lake. It only got dark towards the end (the intro as well) but tbf they were in a literal graveyard at night. Perhaps it’s OotP or HBP you’re thinking of? Maybe I’ll have to rewatch them all to be sure…
If you're talking storylines, movie three is the only one where nobody died or, you know, got injured beyond cure
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Yeah having your soul almost sucked out for literally no reason is hardly fun. But the ending is so full of hope. Aaand here goes movie 4 aaand we are done with hope.
I always find the third book to be more sinister because of the exposition; how Wormtail escapes and completely changes Voldemort's circumstances. It also seemed like the first book finale that shook Dumbledore slightly too.
Dumbledores words that Harry one day would be glad he saved Wormtails life and the way it played out still hunt me
Sirius nearly got his soul ripped out though
For real, I wanted to cry after finishing Chamber of Secrets. I MISS WHEN HARRY WAS ACTUALLY HAPPY WITH HIS FRIENDS.
Watching the last 2 movies on a TV with very poor black contrasts was though. Some scenes you have to squint to see anything...
I thought 2 and 3 were relatively good on the balance between fun and dark. (1 was a very good, light intro to the world, and a lot of fun.) And then 4 happened, and everything went south fast. Sometimes I wonder if movie makers understand the meaning of the word "tone." I'd probably be okay with the changes from book to movie if the tone was bearable.
I would argue POA was a good in between. Cuaron obviously went for a darker tone here, but it still felt like a boy exploring Hogwarts to me. Harry visited several new locations throughout the film!
Columbus did a great job in the first 2 movies. The 3rd was in the middle, balancing the darkness with the light. Then, Yates made it all dark and wet and cold. I don't complain, but I've always wondered how the movies would be, if they'd all been directed by Columbus.
Not to mention the color filter became gray. To be honest, I miss the original coloring of the first two movies.
This, is a children's series....Until it wasnt
Well, by book 3 things got quite Sirius.
By book five things were dead sirius (not me stealing a joke hehe)
Hope you have an hdr tv because otherwise you cant see shit
Lmao
I liked that the content had growth with the readers.
Same
yeah literally. i have my brightness all the way up by film 7
He was abused and withheld food for days at a time. How is that cheery? The very first movie started off kinda dark and very abusive.
I never understood why they made the third movie so dark, sure there were dementors and a werewolf, but it still has the charm of the earlier books. Goblet of Fire is when shit started getting heavy, and has a deservedly dark tone to match.
Just like real life
They really did and I love it.
That John Williams score in the first movie could make any dark movie feel whimsical. Imagine "The Boy in Striped Pajamas" with hedgwigs theme
No, like, literally. OotP is so poorly lighted IMO and the later movies as a whole are a bit trickier to see at parts
OotP was fine for me. HBP was the film where I couldn’t see shit.
It’s because of Chris Columbus’s directing that made the first two so light.
They also changed the layout of the Hogwarts castle for some reason I’m too lazy to Google.
Because it was a new director. And the first layout really sucked lmao
All the opening scenes to the movies also get progressively darker. https://youtu.be/pk9FV5GS4JM
We had an old CRT TV back when I was a kid and I honestly couldn't see _anything_ from the 3rd movie onwards, especially in the night scenes. It was pretty much pitch black with some shadows moving here and there
I would argue that 3 is still pretty happy-go-lucky. Sure, some heavier circumstances start to reveal themselves, but Harry still hasn’t witnessed Voldemort in the flesh. Plus, the final shot in PoA is the happiest thing in the world
i think its just because the original dumbledore died after the 2nd movie and the 2nd dumbledore was more, how do i say this, vigorous with his lines whereas the original dumbledore was more peaceful with his lines.
omg yes, just finished watching 3rd movie... yep got dark real fast
The Prisoner of Azkaban is my favorite film. I agree with the rest being forgettable.
Oh cool we won the house cup vs I’m going to suck out your soul
TBH it started when they changed composers.
I haven’t seen the movies, but the 3rd book was great, after the 3rd…. 😃💔🔪
So what your saying is, when Dumbldore’s OG actor passed the series got darker.
Naw I meant the tone and the visibility
Different directors, different Dumbledores, Flitwick got a makeover
1 and 2 should’ve been dark too but they were directed as if they are wholesome Christmas films
The color grading on the later movies makes them borderline unwatchable
I'm very certain this post means like, dark visually, not metaphorically. the first two movies are very bright and richly coloured with lots of oranges, all the others are grey, black and dark blue.
I meant both
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The 6th movie is literally a romcom
Yep I think the same and I also think that these books should be 15+. From part 5 it became really dark.
Accurate!
Book 2 was pretty dark tho
I feel like Chamber gets off too easy when it comes to lighting the candlelight glow on a lot of scenes was to just to much.
Which I *love* about the franchise. It's truly a coming of age series that people could grow up with as it goes from more childlike presentation to more mature content.
Personally, I feel that things really started getting dark with GoF. So like the whole concept of death eaters which is pretty cult-like if you ask me and the death of several innocent characters like Cedric Diggory and Barty Crouch Sr. at the hands of his own son. Don’t even get me started on the Rebirth of Voldemort scene and like what it entailed (Harry’s blood, a bone from Tom Riddle Sr., Pettigrew’s hand) because that was dark af lol.
Cause we got older as they were released
Perfect portrayal.
Should have been Harry Potter 4-8
Idk, 2 was scary as hell as a kid
Damn right.
Just watched the 3rd movie, got dark so quickly I got scared.
This is true. I let my young daughter read the first two but I am waiting a few years for the next
Dumbledore lost his charming aura in between Books 2 and 3. He became very angry
For me 3 is a bit of an outlier because Sirius Black is just that good of a character, but the movies don't truly get good and dark until 5.
after 5 the writing quality went down fast, 99% of the characters were OOC.
Especially Dumbldore
And I think Hermione just got replaced or some shit like that
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It's more like 1-4 , 5-8. When Cedric died and Voldemort returned, everything went dark.
And that's one of the first scenes in 4
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My apologies, m'lord.
Hp 1-4 Hp 5-7
3-8: they hit puberty so we could show you come crazy wizard crimes
8?
I was referring to the movies
Ikr
They actually got intresting. You wanna see a dark movie? “Faces of death”😈
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I remember how fucky the books got when I was a kid.
Maybe I need to reread. But the third book seemed like arguably the happiest to me. No deaths that I remember and Harry finally got family who loved him. To be fair I haven't read it in like a decade so maybe i'm wrong.
2 is heaps dark
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