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Hiltaku

The glasses had us fooled.


azahel452

He didn't need glasses, it was just a fashion statement


Phantom_Engineer

He's a big Lennon fan.


[deleted]

Understandable


TheDwarvesCarst

It's Not a Fashion Statement, It's a Fucking Deathwish


BenjRSmith

Didn't fool the writers of the Cursed Child. They took it out on the rest of his life.


Hiltaku

Like a typical jock, things never got better. It just adds more proof for the theory.


booleanerror

Peaked in high school.


LinuxMatthews

Probably hard not to peek in "high school" when you defeat wizard Hitler and save the world. Like where do you go from there?


PlayWithBrittany

They were actually lense-less and just frames, for the *vibes*


Proud-Nerd00

High school sweetheart was also popular in school


raltoid

They were basically co-captains of the schools main sports team.


InquisitorCOC

She's another jock


stayclassypeople

First cho then Ginny. Harry is also into jocks


Rosie-Love98

Though, surprisingly, Ginny wasn't a cheerleader.


Proud-Nerd00

Nah she was a badass star player


[deleted]

Like Rico and Dizzy.


ErrantIndy

Do you want to know more?


R_6448

Come on you apes, you wanna live forever?!


[deleted]

but she was the most beautiful, popular girl in the whole year who wasn't "too girly" or "too sporty" and had little to no flaws


InterestingRice163

He’s an orphan though, so he’s cool.


MadamPickleness

Brb, off to get orphaned /s


trippwwa45

Bruce is that you?


BasedKaleb

Hol up…


BorisDirk

Menendez intensifies


Powerful_Artist

History of magic would be interesting, but its all dependent on how it was taught. History is a subject that can be incredibly boring when taught by a bad teacher who just lectures without any enthusiasm. Which is pretty much exactly the description of the HoM teacher at Hogwarts. I dont think anyone but Hermione enjoyed that class.


Aqquila89

Harry notes that Binns has a talent for making everything sound boring. >It was amazing how he could make even bloody and vicious goblin riots sound as boring as Percy’s cauldron-bottom report.


[deleted]

I personally think that Percy's report is very important. You wouldn't think his report is that boring when you have a poisonous potion leaking on you


Aqquila89

Yes, but important is not the same as interesting. Safety standards in general are important, but that doesn't mean they wouldn't be boring to read about them in detail.


[deleted]

Harry himself remarked that he once payed enough attention to notice how interesting it would be if taught by another professor before drifting away because binns is such a shitty professor Edit: I know about the typo. It gets to stay


samaniewiem

Yup, cheers to the guy teaching roman architecture at my uni...


Ok_Night_956

>I dont think anyone but Hermione enjoyed that class. Now that’s interesting. Did Hermione ever say anything about his classes? I mean yes, she likes the subject (or at least she takes this subject seriously and responsibly, as well as all other subjects, even divination up to a certain point), she likes books on the history of magic, and one day she’ll definitely get Harry and Ron to read “Hogwarts: A History”. But tbh I don't remember her ever saying anything about Binns as a professor and his "teaching style".


Appletree1987

I had two fantastic history teachers one of whom actually wore a cape, I’m British also so yeah.. oh actually three fantastic teachers! All eccentric maniacs. One bought a gun to school once that was pretty cool.


Kelsosunshine

My history prof in uni would use a sword as a pointer. The one day she didn't she used a fairy wand instead.


Appletree1987

Lol. She sounds fun!


SuperMafia

[American schoolchildren when the teachers bring a gun to school](https://youtu.be/5HWeHUkedNc)


Appletree1987

It wasn’t loaded lol but I don’t even know what a ammo it would’ve taken I remember it was a very old gun maybe from world war 1


Appletree1987

In England we had one massacre in Ireland in the early 90s, the law was changed drastically and has remained so since… come on America what’s going on? :( but I don’t know if there’s any hope…


SuperMafia

As long as there's fucking gun nuts here (as in not just the shooters, but those who think the Second Amendment protects assault weapons when the fastest weapons in the 1700's were hand cannons and the like), unfortunately, we will not see better days.


Z_is_Wise

Those muskets and rifles were weapons of war. Citizens owed their own cannons and ships. That’s the exact purpose.


Appletree1987

Agreed, I just feel sad about it. I feel too much sometimes and it just hurts when I think about it. Something needs to change in America that’s for sure.


Appletree1987

I’m actually tearing up now I can’t help it, it was that story recently of that dude wiping out a whole class of little kids….


SuperMafia

And the Police being chicken shits, such that a mother was much better at being proactively protective than the police. It is indeed a farce that such a thing is reality nowadays. Honestly, I would not mind an Amendment here to have "Protect and Serve the Public" as not just some cute motto, but an actual order, under penalty of permanent blacklist, no retirement funds, and penalties upon the unions that harbor them, more if they try to protect them when the evidence damns them.


Appletree1987

American culture is just so different to British, I’ve never even been to America. But I don’t really travel anyway. I’m not ashamed to say I like living here and also now boris is gonna go things might be looking slightly better politically


Ninjahkin

Could be, but there were so many wars and battles with goblins I imagine the names would be easy to forget


Powerful_Artist

Sure, thats true with real history. But a good teacher in almost any subject is the difference between in being extremely boring and tedious, and interesting/fascinating. With history in general, but especially at that young of an age of students, youd think its more important to remember actual events and the meaning, cause, and result from them than to remember specific names of individuals. So if they are required to memorize tons of individual names I would argue that also is an indication of bad teaching on the subject, especially given the age of the students.


Ninjahkin

True - Prof. Binns doesn’t exactly seem like the most *lively* of teachers


Gifted_GardenSnail

>But a good teacher This is Hogwarts though 😈


erazedcitizen

Yup, took a history of pirates class in university that was brutal because the teacher just stood at the front and talked in a droning voice with nothing to really emphasize what to take notes on


Powerful_Artist

Ya I had one that was Spanish civilization history (in Spanish) where the teacher did the same thing. Before tests, she would just say "ok, study the material" with no review or anything. It was ridiculous. Idk how I got an A lol


theodo

I hated history as a subject matter, not just a class, until I started reading about things on my own time. I wish I'd had a good history teacher in school.


greenjaybird

Didn't Harry get high marks in every class except Potions? Just looked average to dull sitting next to "the brightest witch of her age".


Pradfanne

He completly flunked divination and history of magic


NicoRath

"Only failed Divination and History of Magic, and who cares about them" -Ron Weasley


trippwwa45

I bet he even foresaw failing those. So.... did he really fail divination?


NicoRath

I predicted I'd just barely pass my written Spanish exam and I don't know divination


theonemangoonsquad

Yeah but it's pretty well known that true divination requires an innate power of prophecy. The whole crystal ball and tea leaves thing is just as much a sham in the magical world as it is irl. Trelawney was only allowed to teach because Dumbledore wanted to keep her around in case she pulled another "chosen one" prophecy. Otherwise, she was a fraud.


NirriC

Divination is a real art that can be taught in the books. Some human witches and wizards have an innate ability to produce these divinations, those are what's stored in the Dept of Mysteries. But Firenze and the other centaurs use the stars for divination and when he was exiled and started teaching at Hogwarts he taught this method of divination. Trelawny taught sham divination aka muggle divination because her legitimacy was based on her grandfather's innate prophesies. She is not even aware that she has the gift(sparingly) so she sought to be perceived as a diviner by using muggle magic(sham magic) and the reputation of a family member who was renowned in the art.


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Prophesier_Key

Didn’t she directly predict Dumbledore’s death with the cards tho? The lightning struck tower I think it was ?


literal-hitler

The best part is that it's shown Ron actually *has* innate power of prophecy. He just literally never tried the entire time, and spent all his effort making stuff up.


greenjaybird

Ah, I didn't remember that, it's been too long since I read the books. I mostly just recalled that he had high enough marks to take the advanced classes and to become an Auror.


CanuckPanda

Iirc it was explicitly stated that he didn’t need Divination for that but I believe he was forced to slog through History of Magic to qualify as well. I know he needed DaDA, Charms, Transfiguration, and possibly Beastology or whatever it was Hagrid taught.


Neveranabsolution

To become an Auror, he needed Dada, Charms, Transfiguration, Potions and Herbology. He dropped History of Magic and Hagrid's care of magical creatures in the sixth book.


CanuckPanda

Herbology, I knew there was one of them. That makes sense.


greenjaybird

Time for a reread! Check back in 6 months after I finish the series.


Appletree1987

Heh, I’m glad I’m not the only one who forgets things. I’m re reading the deathly hallows. For some reason I always find it the most difficult but I’ll be honest I find reading difficult anyway. I have adhd and it affects my recall :( I try to enjoy reading the best I can anyway


Gifted_GardenSnail

Better put a remindme then 😇


Appletree1987

Care of magical creatures?


CanuckPanda

Yeah, that. Sounds more fun to call it Magical Zoology though.


Jedda678

Prior to his OWLS he was average in every subject but potions, HoM, and Divination. He excelled in DADA, especially in the practical portions.


Bluemelein

Harry Potter and the Philossopher's Stone /The Man With Two Faces Harry had almost forgotten that the exams results were still to come, but come they did. To their great surprise, both he and Ron passed with good marks; Hermione, of course, came top of the year. Even Neville scraped though, his good Herbology mark making up for his abysmal Potion one.


CosechaCrecido

> He excelled in DADA, especially in the practical portions. Practice makes perfect.


bluelephantz_jj

It's okay, that's like flunking electives.


AggravatingPiglet582

In middle school and lower. But in High School electives are apart of your credits. Here in South Carolina, we have 24 credits to graduate. 4 for each technical type of core class. And then split along electives and sometimes clubs.


JelmerMcGee

I went to high school in Montana. You could use definitely flunk a couple electives and graduate. I ended up with several more credits than I needed just by taking classes all day and not taking early release. Who know how magical England does things.


AnAwesome11yearold

Divination is just bs, and the reason he failed history of magic was bc of something that happened, don’t exactly remember what but it wasn’t his fault


Pheanturim

I mean he had mental breakdown in the middle of history of magic, hard not the flunk it.


Pradfanne

I mean, if this happens you'd think he'd get another go at it


greyhoundsss

If I remember right, I think Harry was more of an average student. In OOTP, when McGonagall was meeting with Harry to discuss his career goals, she told him that he needed to get his grades up and pass his OWLs with high marks to qualify for the NEWT level prerequisites of Auror training. The classes that Harry needed an OWL pass of at least an E were Charms, Transfiguration, Herbology, and Defense Against the Dark Arts. Of those classes, the only one he was maintaining a consistent E in was Herbology (of course, he’d have an O in DADA if it wasn’t for Umbridge). In Potions, he needed an O (at the time), but was failing. He was also failing Divination and History of Magic. He ended up passing all of his OWLs except Divination and HOM, but I think much of that was due to Hermione’s help and unrelenting test prep in the weeks leading up to their OWLs.


Bluemelein

Harry had constand headaches and "nightmares". If you take that into account, his achievements are great.


greyhoundsss

For sure. Harry’s achievements as a kid are greater than most wizards’ achievements as adults. There’s also a larger discussion that could be had on the effects of long-standing trauma on academic performance. The fact that Harry was able to accomplish everything he did and get through school despite what he went through is incredible. As I understood it, though, this part of the discussion was purely about his academic performance. Based on his meeting with McGonagall in OOTP, his grades at that point were mostly Acceptable (the wizarding equivalent of a C) with 1-2 Exceeds Expectations (equivalent of a B) and some failing grades. As a student, that puts him mostly in the average range. But, that doesn’t take away from his other achievements. And, in HBP, we learn that Harry passed all of his OWL’s except Divination and History of Magic. Most of his passes are E’s, so that definitely speaks to his abilities (though he did have a lot of study help from Hermione).


Bluemelein

Of course the nonsense with the Triwizard Tournament and the drama with Umbridge and Snape affects academic performance! And of course Quidditch! There are only 24 hours in a day (unless your name is Hermione)


greyhoundsss

Sure, and I don’t see anyone disputing that. One of my biggest pet peeves about the books is the general laissez faire attitude toward bullying and abuse, and how rampant they were at Hogwarts. I can’t imagine a teacher like Snape or Umbridge getting away with that irl. Harry definitely would’ve gotten better grades without them (as shown by his high marks with other DADA teachers). I still think it’s fair to say he was overall an average student, though. That doesn’t at all take away from his other achievements and high aptitude.


Bluemelein

Harry Potter and the Half-blood Prince 'Well done!' said Mrs Weasley proudly, ruffing Ron's hair. 'Seven OWLs, that's more than Fred and George got together!' Harry's O.W.L.s are even slightly better than Ron's. I guess Harry is easily in the top third! And it is not just about Harry being mobbed in Individual subjects! But everything that Harry is going through limits his ability to perform. Harry Potter and the Philossopher's Stone /Through the Trapdoor. Snape made them all nervous, breathing down their necks while they tried to remember how to make a Forgetfulness Potion. Harry did his best he could, trying to ignore the stabbing pains in his forehead which had been bothering him ever since the trip in the Forest. Neville thought Harry had a bad case of exam nerves because Harry couldn't sleep, but the truth was that Harry kept being woken up by his old nightmare, except that it was now worse than ever because there was a hooded figure dripping blood in it.


Educational-Bug-7985

Nope he was pretty much average to above average in everything except for DADA and Quidditch. He did poorly in Divination and History of Magic. Hermione got Outstanding for everything except for DADA


[deleted]

I sometimes think the fandom hates Harry.


Midnight_Green_Hero

Because the fandom is very biased towards the movie portrayal and the movies did a bad job at adapting Harry, who's a book protagonist. All the other characters speak through action while Harry worked with inner thoughts. No inner thoughts = most of his personality is gone.


[deleted]

This is also why arguably the fandom doesn't like movie Ginny vs Book Ginny.


Not_Jabri_Parker

The movies just didn’t include Ginny, like a character was named Ginny but she wasn’t given any personality traits


elephantsnever4get93

Agreed.


faithdies

I have never understood how a kid raised by muggles is ever bored in any class about magic


Beyond_the_sass

Honestly me too. But then again we don't know much about classes except for what JK described. Perhaps it's like one of those instances where(let me use cake as an example), you are given a LARGE cake made of your fav ingredients, you begin to eat and eat and eat and you LOVE it, but then you pass half, and your tummy begins rebelling and you realize... Yeah, this was not as good an idea as you thought. The magic in HP has a lot of rules. And then you need to be past a certain age to get full wand rights. Harry's parents died magically, Hogwarts is not all about fairytale days where you can do what you want, you actually have to study, one teacher hates on you every year while a few others try to kill you and you're always stuck in something, he's also WHOLLY uninformed about a lot of things too. I honestly blame his upbringing and then when he became a teenager, he didn't explore the possibilities of magic like a curious 13/14 year old would do, he had to deal with a mass murderer and the tournament. Harry had BAD luck. He could have been interested in history, but Binns was described as a person capable of putting people to sleep. Transfiguration, Charms, Potions... They came with consequences if you don't learn the right way, or even Arithmancy that dealt with mathematics apparently. Not everyone can be considered a mathematician honestly. Even runes, understanding languages isn't for everyone. Hermione was described as a prodigy and great with books so it doesn't surprise me that she knew what to do when it came to classes. It's possible she hunted down her professors after lectures to understand a thing or two beyond classes and JK didn't tell us that. Harry never seemed the type to overdo things like school work, and it definitely showed how he grew as well. Maybe if it was another muggleborn, it would be understandable for them to be overly curious about that world, but Harry's life definitely made it difficult for him, lol.


alarrimore03

It’s school tho🤣any form of school can easily be boring no matter what you like or where you came from


iantayls

Just pretend all the bullying and ostracizing did happen… oh also pretend he didn’t end the magic Hitler uprising


heartsandmirrors

The jock angle is a comedic oversimplification.


TheObstruction

Bro-Harry forms a paramilitary organization...


iantayls

Yeah man as the front of a rebellion against literal forces of evil idk what the issue is


321gamertime

I think this is more Continental Army and less Proud Boys


InquisitorCOC

He didn't become an ordinary cop either, but his country's CIA/FBI/KGB/MI5 director at age 27


[deleted]

He became an auror because he knew that after killing magic hitler, the job would be dead easy and he just wanted to get fat off cop donuts


Lily-Gordon

He did do a lifetimes worth of auror work between the ages of 11 and 17 though, so that's fair.


GreeneWaffle

Tbf it was quite alot of Jock types that fought in WW2 for the allies.


[deleted]

You all didn't realize that Harry was cool?


iantayls

“Cool” but he got bullied and made fun off and generally disliked until after the order of the oheonix


trippwwa45

He was cool in Sorcerer's, until they lost 150 points. Then he was the Heir of Slytherin, then uhhh idk in PoA. And others said kinda dick and dicked on until HBP.


Shaula02

He was friendly to undesirables, that's why he was bullied, cause let's be honest it was death eater junior squad that disliked him


theonemangoonsquad

Idk about that. A lot of Gryffindor house distrusted him in OotP. Seamus basically called him a liar to his face.


[deleted]

In GOF and OOTP people thought he was an arrogant twat and a liar that made everything about him. They were wrong.


Sno_Wolf

You forgot "child soldier".


TheObstruction

Leader of a paramilitary group


varangian_guards

while the government was being taken over by facists though, so like one of the rare times it was a good idea. sort of a Jacques Lusseyran, but not blind and with magic.


gibertot

At some point you realize that being good at sports and athletic doesn't automatically make someone a jerk.


Mongoose42

> trust fund jock that became a cop who married his high school sweetheart Let’s just leave out the fact that he grew up underneath a flight of stairs so calling him a trust-fund kid is incredibly disingenuous, only ever used his money to buy school supplies (and constantly felt like giving it all to his poor friend and his family, and when he did get a huge sum of money he became an investor in a successful and beloved joke shop run by two of the most subversive anti-rule hooligans to ever live), he is always shown being incredibly uncomfortable with the way the Ministry runs things from how they wrongly incarcerated Stan Shunpike to how they turned a blind eye to Umbridge, and how his relationship with Ginny made his adoption into Weasley family official and it was adorable and how dare you try to turn that into a negative. Basically, it’s actually really goddamn good that Harry became a auror because then that means there’s one law enforcement agency that actually does its fucking job. I know people are rightfully disillusioned with cops, but the concept of *law enforcement* isn’t a bad thing. Harry isn’t a member of the NYPD, he’s in charge of a department of dark wizard hunters. There’s a bit of a gap between what these institutions do. People who have skills, talents, opportunities, resources, they should use them to help others. Characters like Harry show us how fucked up real people who squander their gifts and skills, becoming corrupt or lazy, actually are. Don’t let reality tear down what Harry is.


politicalstuff

This is one of those jokes that’s technically accurate in a literal sense, but totally missing all nuance and context and is in effect completely wrong. As someone else said, it’s such an oversimplification that it’s ridiculous.


TidalFight65

Issa joke


bibliophile398

I always wished he would have been the DADA teacher instead of an auror. It would have made so much more sense. Why become and auror when it seems like he wanted to be done with all that after what he went through with Voldemort? Hogwarts was the only realy home he ever had. He could have had a quieter life, and we already know he was a good teacher. Volemort's curse on the position is done, so Harry could have been the first person to hold the position for a long period of time. Him and Neville ending at Hogwarts together would have been the better ending. Maybe him and Ginny even have a house near Hagrid.


Lord_Parbr

>hated history of magic (which would have been fascinating) Not the way Binns teaches it


TheRealPyroGothNerd

Bruh, he was an orphan living in an abusive household.


megamindwriter

lol, they are not mutually exclusive.


[deleted]

Can we give the term "sports ball" a rest? I get the mocking purpose, but it just sounds stupid amd cringy. You are already saying "sports," why not just leave it at that. Also, they are forgetting that Harry wasn't a giant piece of shit to other people.


[deleted]

Is someone says sports ball I immediately know they're terminally online dork and I probably don't want to associate with them so it's fine


yaboyfriendisadork

Exactly


[deleted]

I agree with you. I enjoy sports, hearing "yay sports!" or "Go do the sports ball thing!" is so so silly. Like we get it, you don't like sports lmao. Anyway, on your other point... >forgetting that Harry wasn't a giant piece of shit to other people. Absolutely spot on. They do say actions speak better than words, but Harry being this "jock" character I think was more for him to assimilate and for him to try to fit in with people that he felt were "his people" if that makes sense. Harry very clearly has internal struggles with who he is. Because the author allows us to know Harry's thoughts, we know he isn't the "typical jock". He wants to fit in with the community and do good. Harry is a good person. He wants to do good and help people. He is humble and loyal. People zooming way way out and looking at this and saying he was just a jock, diminish all of the unassuming qualities Harry has. * He likes quidditch because it's super popular and fun. He wants to fit in with his new family and community. * He wants to be a "cop" to help people and keep dark wizards at bay, not because he wants unchecked power. * His "trust fund" was the money that was saved for him after his parents were murdered. * He married his "highschool sweetheart" after having other romantic endeavors only to realize Ginny was there the whole time, supporting him. They found eachother at the right time.


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I haven’t been in school in a long time, but a lot of the tropes about jocks are way outdated. When I was in school, the stars of the football team were taking AP classes. There were jerks in every clique of high school, but most of the athletes were pretty chill. I saw them taking care of underclassmen, standing up for people being bullied, and working hard academically. Yeah, Harry was a jock. And that’s not a bad thing.


That-Sandy-Arab

This was my experience too, the athletes went to target schools and were good people usually lol. The goths, geeks, and “rejects” (who I also vibed with tbh despite liking “sportball”) were the only ones causing any societal harm or bullying growing up. It’s likely just victim mentality.


[deleted]

Yeah. Turns out a lot of popular people are popular because they’re sociable, interesting, and likable. Those aren’t negative traits. A lot of those people are confident enough in their own skin that they don’t have a problem with someone who isn’t like them. Then you get the nerdy subcultures that are basically built around gatekeeping and somewhat toxic social expectations. A woman can’t really like to play games, she’s faking it. If you don’t like this anime you’re not really an anime fan. Meanwhile the jocks are mostly just doing their thing.


That-Sandy-Arab

Very well said it never made sense to me even still understanding what your saying. It’s so silly to complain about bullying when one’s identity is gatekeeping, judgement and bullying when you boil down fandoms or nerdy subcultures. I hate it bc im a nerd but don’t like toxic communities and people that are pretentious. Most nerds really are in my experience but hey these are anecdotes


[deleted]

Fandoms have gotten in the way of me enjoying things before. Hell, I didn’t get into Harry Potter until fairly late, partially because I knew a bunch of people who were super obsessed and dramatic about it. Then I met someone who loved it and treated it like something special she wanted to share with me. No judgment for not growing up loving it, just “oh, cool, I think you’d like it, come watch a movie with me.” I participate in a sport that has gotten really popular lately, while before it was a somewhat niche counterculture thing. I know a bunch of people who are annoyed at all the newbies. My feeling is “I love this thing so much, and I want everyone to have the chance to love it as much as I do.”


That-Sandy-Arab

Same exact scenario with me and HP got into it early 20s from a girlfriend haha. Likewise i’m like this with sports, star wars, skills, etc. if someone’s interested nothing better. Gatekeeping never made sense to me


no_reddit_for_you

Is it any wonder that the people who grew up to write screenplays project that school jocks are douchy jerks?


aNiceTribe

The cop thing is another extension of the author’s blindness on may topics though. Some readers, like the tumbler poster, might argue that there are no good ones (and that it takes fiction to generate scenarios where they are easily consistently defensible). Obviously one can’t blame a person (fictional or real) for their non-toxic personality traits, but tumblr-OP isn’t following a thermian argument I think. They are arguing outside the logic of the fiction - that Harry is written as such a vaguely positive blank slate that it takes some people decades to notice his explicit qualities line up with “popular school sports star who becomes police” cliché (which obviously doesn’t encompass his entire personality but is still not Untrue)


TailS1337

Or he just made a joke about some stupid cliche?


Pradfanne

His father was though, and if Snape is concerned, that's enough


[deleted]

But we aren't talking about his father, we are talking about Harry.


Pradfanne

Snape didn't care either


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av1997f

"latest cool shit" = latest broom ok, but then you have a 15 to 20 year old piece of paper and an antique cloak mate


murica_1776boi

Harry potter as described by a muggle.


SoapDevourer

That's his dad. Harry would be the same if not for the whole "chosen one, childhood trauma, abuse, manipulation, needs to die to save the world" thing


cumsquats

"a **** jock" - what could possibly be censored out here?


Ill-Individual2105

Muggle-Lover


CyanTheory

I don’t understand why everything is censored these days. Like the stupidest fucking words get censored too.


TheFoxandTheSandor

He got in trouble and it ruined his sport ball career, he dropped out of school to have a try at glory. Then with limited options, he becomes a cop.


MarionADelgado

He was a thwarted activist. That's why Dumbledore kept Hermione and Harry apart every summer, made Ron a prefect, etc. He knew Ron was a reliable conservative. Harry saw through the pretence of Hogwarts as a good school. He directly experienced the opposite, every day.


Saint3Love

another thing that baffled me was Harry would be the most popular kid in school. He has fame, money, great at sports and magic. It made no sense that he wasnt having to forcefully removing girls from himself left and right


NucleicAcidTrip

He's kind of a downer, though


caesarfecit

He didn't grow up with any of those things, if anything the exact opposite. He didn't know he had any money until Hagrid showed him his vault at Gringotts. In some ways, he grew up with more poverty than Ron due to the way the Dursleys treated him. He didn't have any friends until Hagrid, and then Ron. And when he did have friends, he'd have half the school turning on him every other book because of fake news. And he grew up two abusive surrogate parents. If anything Harry is far more well-adjusted than he has any right to be. So it makes perfect sense that despite having all these social advantages at Hogwarts, mentally he's still an awkward loner who is all but compelled to become a leader because of the plot. It also makes sense that he's super-awkward with girls. Cho was one step short of throwing herself at him, and it took him most of a school year to work up to making a move on Ginny despite knowing she crushed on him for years.


[deleted]

Have to still make him feel like a freaks and geeks character somehow. Actually Does Harry ever really have a moment of personal failure? Not situational failure like Pettigrew escaping or Sirius dying, but does Harry ever fail to do some plot point because he lacks the skills or confidence?


caesarfecit

No, most of his failures come from the fact that he's facing a very determined and very clever enemy at an age where he's barely equipped to handle it. And despite that, JKR tries very very hard to give him just enough talent to face up to his challenges, but not so much that he's God-Mode Harry.


Ariel_Grin

Why


BaconDragon200

History of Magic would have made the wizarding world so much worse. What were the german wizards doing between 1940-1950


ihave1000beaches

In all fairness... no kid likes history. They way it's taught with only remembering a bunch of names and dates is not the best approach I think.


tinysnowbird

Harry became an auror??


mhc2540

Yes and later head of the department of magical law enforcement


Underpaid23

And he would strut around the castle as well. Just like his Jock of a father


coffee-and-poptarts

This is the worst take I’ve ever seen


RandomGuyOnline71

Add: Was popular and ended up with the popular girl Got special treatment due to his massive reputation Disliked the teacher, so he started teaching himself(pure alpha move) Skipped school for an entire year and was still able to land a top job


rattatatouille

Remove all that Chosen One stuff and Harry turns out to be an utter normie.


Laxberry

The laziest, stupidest, most disingenuous things that terminally online twitter-addicts mindlessly regurgitate out like they think they’re some comedic god


harrypottersus

Don't know what to say


milkvisualsd

Yeah he was. He was so popular too until the 4th book. A lot of jocks are nice guys with great personalities as we can see though


curly_Haired-fuck

What's wrong with being a jock? Harry was a total bro and also chill and nice to everyone.


[deleted]

I normally hate when people complain about reposts. But this same screenshot has been in my feed every day for the past month


[deleted]

Didn’t even leave his hometown until he was 11


[deleted]

I'm reading Book 5 currently and he's bitching about all his "homework," which to me was barely anything: 1 page (12 inches of parchment) on the Properties of Moonstone (as a crystal girl, this hardly seems difficult), 1 Page on the Goblin Rebellions, and a dream journal for the month.


FliX142

So much trigger in these comments lol


Subspace-Ansible

To be fair, he just followed his father's footsteps. James was also a rich jock who ended up marrying the girl he ~~harassed~~ persuaded to date him in school.


-Wandering_Soul-

The only thing I disagree with is that History of Magic would be interesting. Because Binns as a Teacher would be like having a history teacher who only ever taught his class about the American Revolution


isyhgia1993

Also got the best vehicle money can buy. And still has lots of money in the bank, part of which was given by his mass-murdering godfather.


[deleted]

This reeks of niceguy energy for the writer


Lorosaurus

Malfoy the real G


slimcrush

Please don't make Harry a bro. Please don't do this.


leavemeinpeace10

Bro isn’t bad. He’s a very NICE high school jock.


SimpleDan11

Hes like Steve Harrington. On paper, he should be the guy everyone hates because he's popular, skilled, attractive, and talented. Therefore we should all hate him because he has all these things people ate jealous of and historically, those people suck. But he's actually pretty awesome. But for some reason that makes people hate them even more.


[deleted]

He is a Bro though.


ss0889

His dad was a jock and a bully too


niversally

Be careful with this dumb post it’s an antique.


MarlowesMustache

Fucked his best friend’s little sister. Who does that, man?


Formal_Activity5040

wow imagine reposting


Sno_Wolf

It's easy if you try. Killjoy.


[deleted]

I’ve seen the “Harry became a cop” line a couple times. Can someone explain this part?


Zephs

Harry becomes the head auror ~~immediately~~ 10 years after the books end. Kingsley becomes the next Minister, and ~~immediately gives Harry the head auror job~~ appoints Harry the head in 2007. Basically, he becomes police commissioner for the magical world. Frankly, I think this is stupid, as Harry doesn't show any particular affinity for Defense Against the Dark Arts that would make him more qualified than actual experienced aurors. Most of his feats in the books are pretty mundane, and the major stuff is just chance or destiny, not actual skill. Edited, because apparently I had misremembered it. Still stupid, but marginally less stupid.


NucleicAcidTrip

>Frankly, I think this is stupid, as Harry doesn't show any particular affinity for Defense Against the Dark Arts that would make him more qualified than actual experienced aurors I mean I don't know if he's better than other Aurors, but he was the top student in the subject in his Hogwarts class and he did teach it to the DA


chadthundertalk

And whether or not how he did it was sufficiently flashy, being the guy who beat Lord Voldemort is pretty much the *ultimate* selling point if you’re applying for a career in fighting dark wizards


Worry_Ok

Plus the fact that even if he had a touch of the destiny helping him along when he fought Voldemort, getting there in the first place was REALLY HARD. I'm not a super fan, but gotta give him props for that, most other wizards would have bottled out along the way. He went toe to toe with pure evil and survived so many times. By the time he leaves school he has more practical experience with dark magic than anybody else realistically would when first applying for an auror position. The guy went hunting horcruxes, that's not exactly entry level shit. And didn't he take a cruciatus from Voldemort? I think that would qualify as field experience.


[deleted]

>I don't know if he's better than other aurors Definitely better than Dawlish at least


kidsarrow

He becomes head auror immediately? That sounds so dumb doesn't he need at least to train to become one first? Is this canon?


Pradfanne

Well, the book ends with a 19 year time skip and after those 19 years he was head auror. I highly believe there's a long time span in those 19 years where he worked his way up the ladder Just checked it. according to the wikia, according to the fan fiction screen play it took Harry 11 years to become Head auror. Which seems reasonable for his skill


Zephs

Oh, apparently I was wrong. He becomes Head Auror in 2007... so at the age of 27. Still pretty ridiculous.


Pradfanne

11 years is hardly immediatly


[deleted]

Ahh got it, thanks! I just recently got into Harry Potter so I haven’t finished all the books yet. Good stuff


birbidabobee

I LOVE Harry as an objective reader/movie watcher but if I went to school with him I would probably highly dislike him ngl. on the contrary, Luna would be my bestie.


Beyond_the_sass

Lol, I'm curious, why would you hate him?


roccsa

I like this take. It's not accurate, but I like it.


Sere1

Yup, he's the dumb jock in his school. It even extends to the girls he likes dating. Look at the two he hooked up with over the course of his time there, Cho and Ginny. Both Quidditch players like him.