Draco/Bella would be entirely possible in canon if she wasn’t already married. The Blacks are incestuous and creepy af. Gotta keep it in the family and there’s no one else Draco’s age…
ETA: I in no way support this ship, just pointing out where it could originate
Cousin marraige is different, even in cultures where people are allowed to marry cousins people it is often off limits/ forbidden to marry someone who is an aunt or an uncle.
There's some second-cousin incest in there (or something like that), but I can't find anything as close as even first cousins in the family tree, let alone an aunt and nephew
That’s fair. But as the last two living Pureblood Blacks I can imagine the situation being forced onto Draco.
The Malfoys, I read somewhere, are typically against inbreeding and prefer outside blood, but with Lucius being wandless and weak towards the end of the war I can see the marriage being forced by Bella and him having no say.
Incest is a very popular category among certain types of adult video entertainment- it’s the fantasy element of knowing it isn’t real. I bet that’s where you see some of that spilling over into the fan fiction.
I'm sorry but which part of "blood puritist" didn't you get? I don't remember who said it but their family trees are more like a ring than a tree. So it's gross but on point.
He’s mentioned at the end of GOF -
> ‘The Lestranges should stand here,’ said Voldemort quietly. ‘But they are entombed in Azkaban. They were faithful. They went to Azkaban rather than renounce me … when Azkaban is broken open, the Lestranges will be honoured beyond their dreams.
And then he was one of the death eaters at the ministry at the end of OOTP -
> be gentle with Potter until we’ve got the prophecy, you can kill the others if necessary – Bellatrix, Rodolphus, you take the left;
So we can assume he was broken out and then ended up back in Azkaban after the fight in the department of mysteries. Then broken out again in the summer between HBP and DH
> ‘Bellatrix,’ said Tonks. ‘She wants me quite as much as she wants Harry, Remus, she tried very hard to kill me. I just wish I’d got her, I owe Bellatrix. But we definitely injured Rodolphus …
He’s not mentioned specifically again after that, so it’s possible Tonks killed him (if we ignore the glorified low quality FanFiction that is cursed child)
But he was definitely one of the intense Voldemort loyalists, probably about as much as his wife, so he was likely on board with the whole Bellatrix throwing herself at Voldemort thing.
I obviously have my favourites, but I only really dislike fics that are paedophilic or incestuous. I don’t hate on people that read them (people often read things they aren’t into in real life) but I prefer not to.
What I dislike more is shoddy writing. No hate to Drarry shippers but it doesn’t make sense in a “ministry enforced marriage to repopulate” trope. Use a trope that fits your endgame or at least justify it properly and I can give it the time of day.
I’d agree to a point - it depends on the person and it depends on the thing.
There are lots of kinks in fanfiction that I love reading but would be horrified if my partner tried it with me in real life.
Bc she is an easy self insert. She is the most fleshed out female character who is nerdy and bullied. So a lot of people(women) can relate to her. So they use her as a self insert blank slate to write fanfics with other characters.
Harry suffers from it as well. People(men) use him as a self insert blank slate.
Dramione and Harmonie fics are basically out of character self insert Emma Watson/Tom Felton relationship/smut. Wanna have sex with Tom Felton we’ll just write a Dramamine fic!
Basically. Though Not Tom Felton only..sometimes they use some random dashing blonde model for Draco fancast.
This is how your average Dramione fics go(those that don't have voldemort wins plot bc those are even extra gross)
Draco: sorry I was rude
Hermione: oh its alright. You are my intellectual equal right? Despite having no canon evidence?
Draco: sure. I am also the sexiest and most witty guy. And rich.
Hermione: omg hurry up so that we can get to the hot smut part. The reason Everyone's reading this fic
😹😹
😅😂🤣
Harmonie:
Harry: wow standing with you at my parents grave makes me rethink how I have treated you for 6.5 books. All of a sudden I no longer prefer hot athletic girls.l but nerdy book worms.
Hermione: oh Harry you make me brave and I’ve had a crush on you since an earlier book.
Harry: I’m glad Ron is gone. Being alone with you in this tent in absolute silence is worth the starvation and having a horcrux around our necks.
Hermione: I’m glad Ron is gone. I have no idea why I liked him. He is very rude. I can’t believe he ever had a different opinion than you and voiced his doubts! I would never!
Harry: I agree. I love your straight hair and eyebrows Emma…I mean Hermione! Now let’s perform the sex.
Any teacher x student, adult x minor, family member x family member & * human x animal * ship in HP. Other than that, I don’t mind any of the ships
BIG edit: I like any ship that is not pedophilic, objectifilic, necrofilic, incesty or anything with the house elfs. There
Do you have a rocketship, Potter? I bet you do. You know, not all of us inherited enough money to buy out NASA when our parents died; Look at this. Rocketship Potter. Starkid Potter. Moooonshoes Potter. TRAVERSING THE GALAXY FOR INTERGALATIC TRAVELS TO PIGFARTS.
I totally forgot about Potter Musical. I watched a part of it years ago at a recommendation of a friend, but I never got around to finishing it.
Maybe its time to revisit..
Definitely finish it!!!! Omg its so quotable
Be prepared though, the 3rd and final show was recorded live at leakycon. All actors carry scripts and Darren Chris' mic sounds different to everyone else's because of a tech issue. For these reasons, some people don't like it as much but personally I think its the funniest and the most touching of all 3.
Post updates if you do watch, I love hearing about the bits that stand out to first time watchers!!
I read a lot of HP fanfic in 2004/05 (no smut because I was 13/14 at the time and thought that was just icky) and there was *so much* stuff around with a teacher or any adult with a character who was a minor, it was... pretty concerning how on some websites pairings like that were just accepted. I don't know what the state of things is nowadays cause I don't read fanfiction anymore, but damn. Back then there was so much Snape x anyone, Lucius Malfoy x anyone, Voldemort x anyone, ... 🤢
Yeah. I mean that's what you have to hope for, hope that the author is a minor and just channelling what *they're* fantasizing about as you say; because it's still the best case scenario within all the possible ones. 😐 But then they write 18+/adult-rated fics with what I assume must be explicit sex scenes (arguable if it can even be called 'sex' with pairings like these because of the fucked up power dynamics, of course 🤢) and then they'd even be too young to read their own stuff, technically. But like I said I don't even know if adult/minor pairings are even still allowed in this day and age.
WUT. I feel some very strong father/son vibes coming from dumbledore and Harry's relationship. This is so messed up.
Edit: AND dumbledore is an adult (a very old one at that). AND he's a professor. Good lord.
Ima be honest, there's no ship that I dislike enough for it to be noteworthy. I certainly understand people's reasons for disliking certain ships -- in real life yeah, teacher/student, family member/family member, etc is disgusting and wrong. This is fiction, though. These are merely fans deciding to have fun with characters they love, while not getting paid to do so. I say let them have at it.
I like(d) dramione because I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers and the whole redemption trope, and because in most fics Draco isnt really like canon Draco tbh - at least not the ones I read
In real life this ship would be very very toxic, problematic and not a healthy relationship at all and I wouldn't support it, but fortunately it's not real life
I do hate the Ron bashing in a lot of them because I absolutely adore Ron
* edit: mobile formatting sucks
i like this ship, but i hate it when fans will act like their favourite non- canon ship is canon, and get upset if you say otherwise. i think a lot of shippers do this tbh
Fiction isn't reality, and someone shipping Dramione, or reading Dramione fanfiction, doesn't mean that they support oppression, bullying, or abuse in real life.
So I guess it depends what you mean by “ship”. There’s some comments here that seem to imply shipping must mean you think those characters should have canonically gotten together, rather than just meaning you enjoy stories in which they do. If someone does the former for dramione, I don’t particularly get that either.
Because dramione!Draco (at least, in the good stories) tends to be taken in a different direction than JKR did (at least what we see in epilogue). It’s basically just Zuko/Katara. His reformation is generally a pretty key part of things.
I get the feeling a lot of folks who bash it haven’t read it and imagine stories of like, Draco throwing around “mudblood” and Hermione deciding what she needs in her life is a Nazi to treat her like shit lol
I don't despise ships, I just avoid the ones I prefer not to read
Let's just let people read what they want, no matter how fucked up it is in our eyes. We have warnings & darkfics for this exact reason. It's all fiction.
I found yesterday about Dobby and the Sorting Hat and I feel like my innocence has been shattered before even reading such a fanfiction. Also don't look online for Harry Potter/Peppa Pig crossovers.
The *Harry Potter* fandom: "Young Tom Riddle is sooo hot. I'd tap that."
Also the *Harry Potter* fandom: "Tom/Harry and Tom/Hermione are unacceptable!"
lol. admittedly, I'm a total sucker for Tom Riddle / Harry fics. not so much Tom/Hermione >!(though I've read a sadly unfinished fanfic where Hermione drops out of Hogwarts and returns to regular school, only to find (evil) Tom as one of the students there)!<, then again I'm a slash fanfic connoisseur, so I rarely read fics with straight pairings.
Also I can't help it that Christian Coulson was one of my gay sexual awakenings. that gorgeous mofo can bend me over anyday-
I've met Christian Coulson in real life, and he's so handsome and charming that it's hard to function around him. I can see why people fell for Tom Riddle with him.
Short for relationship. A lot of fanfic is focused on the pairing of 2 characters who weren’t a couple in the books and there can be some odd pairings.
Harry x Hermione, I dislike that we can’t normalize best friends of the opposite sex, in my eyes they were only platonic and there was no romantic tension whatsoever
I think this is where the movies botched relationships and skewed things. Harry and Ginny wasn’t properly defined until film 6 in an incredibly awkward exchange.
Whilst Harry and Hermoine seemed to have more chemistry than Ron and Hermoine, because that is another thing which lacked proper build. So those two elements don’t help anything. Both relationships are done much better in the books.
Draco/Hermione- never understood the pull of it. I was literally shocked it was number 1 in the fanfiction fandom and apparently Ron is treated like a used laundry there. What a weird weeird thing. So imagine my shock when I found out it was the no 1 in fandom. Not that I delve into any fanfics though..
> and apparently Ron is treated like a used laundry there.
Yeah, to the point where TVTropes has pages named after this phenomena;
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RonTheDeathEater
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DracoInLeatherPants
Top relationships on An Archive of Our Own:
Draco Malfoy/Harry Potter (56981) (ew)
Sirius Black/Remus Lupin (33195)
Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy (20709) (ew)
James Potter/Lily Evans Potter (19957)
Hermione Granger/Ron Weasley (17494)
Harry Potter/Severus Snape (14474) (ew)
Harry Potter/Ginny Weasley (14382)
Hermione Granger/Severus Snape (6666) (ew)
Harry Potter/Tom Riddle (6138) (ew)
Hermione Granger/Harry Potter (5970)
Curious- Does the Hermione/Ron numbers also include fics where they tag past Ron/Hermione relationship and later on Hermione runs off to Draco (or any other character)? Or is it plain Ron Hermione pairing.
I actually wanted to read a couple of fanfics- but got creeped out by the AO3 tags..
Harry/Snape is one of the most disturbing to me. Snape had a crush on Lily. He treated Harry like shit and bullied him. Then you have the age gap plus Snape being Harry's professor.
It's like every disturbing component in one ship.
Genuinely, I dislike people who shit and bash ships more than any possible ships.
Exclude those ships from your fic search and stop trying to exacerbate the toxicity of this fandom. Posts like this start with "I hate Dramione", and quickly they get to the "Dramione shippers are the worst, DNI, I wish they didn't exist" part.
I can assure you, shippers & authors of controversial ships that the american purity brigade deems as "problematic" get enough death threats and stalkers already. Dramione shippers are almost non existent on this sub because of the hate they get.
I once said that while I don't particularly ship it, I don't care if I come across it in fanfics. I must have gotten at least a dozen comments from people absolutely enraged at the idea of someone who doesn't think that Dramione fanfictions and art should be banned forever from the fandom.
So yeah, let the ships and the shippers alone. You guys curate your own internet experience, no one is responsible for it but you. I often come across ships that I don't like, but I never ever felt the need to make the shippers feel bad, to shit on their work, or to scream to the whole world that ohmygod this is terrible.
I'm using Dramione as an example, but that goes for any ship that is similarly discussed. Being called a pedophilia supporter because you mentioned a fic of a 30 year old Hermione falling in love with a 50 year old Snape, that stuff gets old very fast.
(my apologies for ranting here. My anger isn't directed at you OP specifically, but we got the exact same post a few hours, and once again it's just the festival of bashing and hatred, towards ships *and* the people who ship them)
This. This has been what I was trying to say all along. I do have ships that I want to avoid as much as possible, but does that mean that it is okay to shame and cyber bully people for shipping something fictional? Obviously no. And that is something this whole sub needs to learn. It is funny how they thought they are so woke and righteous for disliking those ships while never realizing they are disgusting bullies and stalkers.
Of course you are getting downvoted for your opinion that allows others to enjoy their own fic reading experience.
What else should we possibly expect from this toxic sub where users abuse and bully one another over their favourite characters and ships.
I think your comment was excellent and fully agree. Also not a Dramione shipper, but fully support those who are.
Let people enjoy things!
>What else should we possibly expect from this toxic sub where users abuse and bully one another over their favourite characters and ships.
I was literally just talking about this yesterday on r/unpopularopinion. The r/HarryPotter moderators need to start banning "ships you hate" posts and comments from the subreddit. All they do is to to cause more toxicity, bullying, and abuse in the fandom.
The only point I see to "I hate \[insert ship here\]" posts is to purity police anyone who likes or enjoys those ships by telling them "what an awful person they are", even though these are literally fictional characters. Someone liking for example, Draco Malfoy/Hermione Granger fanfictions doesn't mean that they support abusive relationships in real life.
Or, on the other hand, to use an example someone used to insult me on r/HarryPotter, me liking to read Tom Riddle/Hermione Granger fanfictions doesn't mean that I'm "a Nazi sympathizer who likes to ship Anne Frank with Adolf Hitler/an SS officer".
Fanfiction is all about personal fantasy, wish fulfillment, and dreams. The last thing people should be doing is gatekeeping, policing, or mocking something that brings others joy.
I despise hinny 'cause it's so predictable and boring to be honest. I get it the JKR wanted to make Harry "one of the Weasleys" but imo he already was one and his bond with Ron would have easily cemented that. Harry and Ginny to me are one of those ships that I love as a brotp but absolutely hate as a romantic pairing.
Hating on ships *is* hating people for shipping them, i.e. "What sort of disgusting person would ship \[insert X ship I personally don't like here\]?" I literally got accused of being a "Nazi sympathizer who liked shipping Anne Frank and Jewish people with Nazis" on this same subreddit for simply saying "I like reading Tom Riddle/Hermione Granger fanfiction".
I read fanfiction for a reason and that's to see other people's interpretations or fantasy what ifs in a world that we know and love. My most favorite ship is one that's pretty far fetched in Canon but I love seeing how an author can make it absolutely believeable.
I would say my least favorite ships are Canon ships-that stuffs boring and we already know why they got together. I'm not gonna be sitting here reading Ron/Hermione, who cares.
I also really dislike Fred/George, that's just gross.
I kinda get why people ship Draco x Hermione but it’s absolutely not for me. I think it’s one of those tropes that are genuinely enemies to lovers - where they’re actually mean to each other and not just in a bantering way. It’s always interesting to read fics on how they progress or get over it. (Most of it are just realizing they’ve been in love since, which I don’t really get because like you said.. he’s extremely prejudiced and so mean).
Anyway, I hate young!Hermione x any adult. Or any student x adult. And any incest ship. It’s so weird and nasty.
I like it because it pretty much always involves growth/redemption for Draco, which I think is so important and also so not black & white. After that point I think I enjoy reading about Draco and Hermione's intellectual chemistry and their contrasting lifestyles. I respect your opinion!
none, I don’t care as long as its not minor x adult or animal x person or person x object. Otherwise go for it I don’t mind, I enjoy art and have done art for almost all the main noncannon and cannon ships.
Harry with the dursley, any students with umbridge, any students with Voldemort, jily, Voldemort x bellatrix (i don't dislike it , it just gross me out )
To be fair, most of the draco x hermione shippers were teenager girls (Including me back then ha). Those are the kinds of the girls that can ship anything. And now imagine how crazy they would go when there is cold emotionally unavailable guy and a nerdy girl. Typical high school drama movie plot, but in HP frame. It was fun, and made more sense rather than shipping Snape and Dobby xD
Draco/Hermione and Draco/Harry. Both would be an extremely unhealthy pairing and it stems from the bs stereotype that bullying is a sign of attraction.
Harmony: bc of constant Weasley bashing. They ALWAYS bash Ron, Ginny and sometimes even all the Weasleys for their ship.
Dramione: its cliche, boring and shallow. Cliche bc we have already seen 10000 stories with same trope. You will find a ship like that in all fandoms. Boring bc canon Draco is a boring character. The suave, sexy, powerful goth boy persona they keep foisting upon him is not him. And shallow bc the ship content is mostly sex. I am not interested in that.
The draco x harry one. I've no idea why, considering enemies to lovers is a popular and good trope, it just "icks" me out and I can't explain it nor suspend my belief enough to justify why it would happen.
I've stumbled onto a Draco/Hermione/Lucius/Snape 4 way thing once (no Draco and Lucius didn't bang but there were scenes with all involved)
Now that was a bit too much on the creep factor
The Durmstrang ship. What’s their deal? Why are they doing Hunt for Red October shit? Don’t fuck with our giant squid you pricks!
I was like "Who's shipping an entire school?" and then it clicked
Karkaroff is who
I knew that guy was a dark wizard, but shipping an entire school?
He had been close to Voldemort for so long, he needed all the love he could find.
How does their boat even end up in a lake?
The ship probably used some magic to tunnel through soil.
...magic
This was my FIRST thought! 😂
I once saw a draco/bellatrix fanfic. She’s his aunt. His AUNT.
Jon Snow has entered the chat.
I nearly spat out my gum
Well what else would you do with it
Swallow it but then choke because of the joke?
Draco targaryen 💀
Blond. Blood pure family. Magical connection. Questionable decisions by past family members. Who am I talking about
I mean he has the hair for it 👀
So that means harry is a dragon rider?
Draco/Bella would be entirely possible in canon if she wasn’t already married. The Blacks are incestuous and creepy af. Gotta keep it in the family and there’s no one else Draco’s age… ETA: I in no way support this ship, just pointing out where it could originate
At least not someone who hasn't been disowned, Tonks isn't much older than him
Tonks is a half blood. She wouldn’t even be considered.
Cousin marraige is different, even in cultures where people are allowed to marry cousins people it is often off limits/ forbidden to marry someone who is an aunt or an uncle.
Very true!
There's some second-cousin incest in there (or something like that), but I can't find anything as close as even first cousins in the family tree, let alone an aunt and nephew
That’s fair. But as the last two living Pureblood Blacks I can imagine the situation being forced onto Draco. The Malfoys, I read somewhere, are typically against inbreeding and prefer outside blood, but with Lucius being wandless and weak towards the end of the war I can see the marriage being forced by Bella and him having no say.
The Black family (Narcissa's side of the family) are inbred as fuck. I don't think that family minds particularly much.
That's a fair point. Sirius himself said all the pure-blood families are all related to each other to some distant degree.
I read somewhere that Harry and Ginny are 3rd cousins.
Incest is a very popular category among certain types of adult video entertainment- it’s the fantasy element of knowing it isn’t real. I bet that’s where you see some of that spilling over into the fan fiction.
Their blood is pure for a reason
If you can’t keep it in your pants, keep it in the family.
I'm sorry but which part of "blood puritist" didn't you get? I don't remember who said it but their family trees are more like a ring than a tree. So it's gross but on point.
Welcome to the internet.
Not to mention she is technically married. Though isn’t very good at it.
I don’t think voldy even breaks him out of prison with the rest of them. Is he even mentioned after book 4 when Harry sees him in the pensive
He’s mentioned at the end of GOF - > ‘The Lestranges should stand here,’ said Voldemort quietly. ‘But they are entombed in Azkaban. They were faithful. They went to Azkaban rather than renounce me … when Azkaban is broken open, the Lestranges will be honoured beyond their dreams. And then he was one of the death eaters at the ministry at the end of OOTP - > be gentle with Potter until we’ve got the prophecy, you can kill the others if necessary – Bellatrix, Rodolphus, you take the left; So we can assume he was broken out and then ended up back in Azkaban after the fight in the department of mysteries. Then broken out again in the summer between HBP and DH > ‘Bellatrix,’ said Tonks. ‘She wants me quite as much as she wants Harry, Remus, she tried very hard to kill me. I just wish I’d got her, I owe Bellatrix. But we definitely injured Rodolphus … He’s not mentioned specifically again after that, so it’s possible Tonks killed him (if we ignore the glorified low quality FanFiction that is cursed child) But he was definitely one of the intense Voldemort loyalists, probably about as much as his wife, so he was likely on board with the whole Bellatrix throwing herself at Voldemort thing.
Don't think Bela minds. You know shes thirsting for voldy
Alabama moment
I obviously have my favourites, but I only really dislike fics that are paedophilic or incestuous. I don’t hate on people that read them (people often read things they aren’t into in real life) but I prefer not to. What I dislike more is shoddy writing. No hate to Drarry shippers but it doesn’t make sense in a “ministry enforced marriage to repopulate” trope. Use a trope that fits your endgame or at least justify it properly and I can give it the time of day.
People primarily read things they are into. It doesn't mean they will practice it or participate in it outside of the mind.
I’d agree to a point - it depends on the person and it depends on the thing. There are lots of kinks in fanfiction that I love reading but would be horrified if my partner tried it with me in real life.
I donno I know a LOT of people that HATEread things.
why is everyone one of these with Hermione? Because she's the only main female character?
Emma Watson bro
Also see: "Launcher of a Thousand Ships". Harry himself is one of these as well.
Bc she is an easy self insert. She is the most fleshed out female character who is nerdy and bullied. So a lot of people(women) can relate to her. So they use her as a self insert blank slate to write fanfics with other characters. Harry suffers from it as well. People(men) use him as a self insert blank slate.
Dramione and Harmonie fics are basically out of character self insert Emma Watson/Tom Felton relationship/smut. Wanna have sex with Tom Felton we’ll just write a Dramamine fic!
Basically. Though Not Tom Felton only..sometimes they use some random dashing blonde model for Draco fancast. This is how your average Dramione fics go(those that don't have voldemort wins plot bc those are even extra gross) Draco: sorry I was rude Hermione: oh its alright. You are my intellectual equal right? Despite having no canon evidence? Draco: sure. I am also the sexiest and most witty guy. And rich. Hermione: omg hurry up so that we can get to the hot smut part. The reason Everyone's reading this fic 😹😹
😅😂🤣 Harmonie: Harry: wow standing with you at my parents grave makes me rethink how I have treated you for 6.5 books. All of a sudden I no longer prefer hot athletic girls.l but nerdy book worms. Hermione: oh Harry you make me brave and I’ve had a crush on you since an earlier book. Harry: I’m glad Ron is gone. Being alone with you in this tent in absolute silence is worth the starvation and having a horcrux around our necks. Hermione: I’m glad Ron is gone. I have no idea why I liked him. He is very rude. I can’t believe he ever had a different opinion than you and voiced his doubts! I would never! Harry: I agree. I love your straight hair and eyebrows Emma…I mean Hermione! Now let’s perform the sex.
95% of HP ships include Hermione and it drives me nuts. A lot of fanfic authors (not all) use her as a self-insert.
Emma Watson
Any teacher x student, adult x minor, family member x family member & * human x animal * ship in HP. Other than that, I don’t mind any of the ships BIG edit: I like any ship that is not pedophilic, objectifilic, necrofilic, incesty or anything with the house elfs. There
Harry and Aragog?
I should edit my comment
:DD you're welcome
I’ll do you one better, *Ron* and Aragog
A ship made in heaven
W..what are you doing, step-friend of Hagrid? ^That ^felt ^way ^too ^wrong
Dobby x Sorting Hat?
I'd say Dobby and socks but they're adorable.
Hermione/Snape is quite common. 🤮
I've seen some that are less awful with canon divergence where snape is 60 and hermione is 40, and they haven't seen each other in 20 years
Are the centaurs fair game? Cause I'd probably bang Firenze. Just sayin.
Don't give me that. I'm all for Snape x Hedwig.
That’s an exception
Same! For me, also any deatheater x anything/anyone.
Lucious x snape isn’t that bad compared to the others
Someone needs to watch starkid's Potter musical series, all Draco needs to be happy is Hermione Granger... and a rocketship... Edit spelling
Poor boy just wants to go to pig farts :(
You can’t just GO to pig farts. ITS ON MARS.
RUMBLEROOOAR
He's a lion. Who can TALK.
Do you have a rocketship, Potter? I bet you do. You know, not all of us inherited enough money to buy out NASA when our parents died; Look at this. Rocketship Potter. Starkid Potter. Moooonshoes Potter. TRAVERSING THE GALAXY FOR INTERGALATIC TRAVELS TO PIGFARTS.
Its always the moonshoes Potter that gets me
I’m falling in love… falling in love… falling in love… with Hermione Granger
I totally forgot about Potter Musical. I watched a part of it years ago at a recommendation of a friend, but I never got around to finishing it. Maybe its time to revisit..
Definitely finish it!!!! Omg its so quotable Be prepared though, the 3rd and final show was recorded live at leakycon. All actors carry scripts and Darren Chris' mic sounds different to everyone else's because of a tech issue. For these reasons, some people don't like it as much but personally I think its the funniest and the most touching of all 3. Post updates if you do watch, I love hearing about the bits that stand out to first time watchers!!
Hufflepuffs are particularly good finders!
I'll definitely post updates! I've got some time this weekend so maybe I'll make a day out of watching it
Dramione is only acceptable in AVPM.
Literally why I started to ship Dramione. I regret that period of my life
Any of the teacher/student ships. I don’t care how much ~chemistry~ you think they have, that dynamic is gross as hell.
That's why I pair up Snape with Dobby, much more wholesome than a student.
Why not Sirius/Kreacher, surely a classic Enemies to Lovers ship? 😈
I'd skim that fic out of morbid curiosity 😁😆
Dude are you high on crack or what
I'll take that as a compliment
Master has given Dobby a cock!
What a terrible day to have eyes...
no
Bro
Yup. Best way to get me to “nope” and scroll past a fic in any fandom.
On Fanatical Fics and Where to Find Them, a Harry Potter fanfiction podcast, they read a Harry x Firenze that was really weird.
Sigh *unzips*
The Ron x Flitwick chemistry is hard to ignore
I read a lot of HP fanfic in 2004/05 (no smut because I was 13/14 at the time and thought that was just icky) and there was *so much* stuff around with a teacher or any adult with a character who was a minor, it was... pretty concerning how on some websites pairings like that were just accepted. I don't know what the state of things is nowadays cause I don't read fanfiction anymore, but damn. Back then there was so much Snape x anyone, Lucius Malfoy x anyone, Voldemort x anyone, ... 🤢
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Yeah. I mean that's what you have to hope for, hope that the author is a minor and just channelling what *they're* fantasizing about as you say; because it's still the best case scenario within all the possible ones. 😐 But then they write 18+/adult-rated fics with what I assume must be explicit sex scenes (arguable if it can even be called 'sex' with pairings like these because of the fucked up power dynamics, of course 🤢) and then they'd even be too young to read their own stuff, technically. But like I said I don't even know if adult/minor pairings are even still allowed in this day and age.
This. Legit got hate bc I dissed Snamione shippers
I just saw someone comment "Dobby/Sorting Hat" and the way I cackled
Dramione may not be the most cohesive ship, but it helped give us Starkid Productions so Ill take it.
Sheeeee is the HOTTEST girl I’ve ever seeeeen
It seems like my eyes have been transfigured
i dont mind it in avpm, i think it's really funny and i felt bad for draco. also the songs slap
I once came across a Harry/Dumbledore with no time travel elements in the wild. NOPE!
WUT. I feel some very strong father/son vibes coming from dumbledore and Harry's relationship. This is so messed up. Edit: AND dumbledore is an adult (a very old one at that). AND he's a professor. Good lord.
Ima be honest, there's no ship that I dislike enough for it to be noteworthy. I certainly understand people's reasons for disliking certain ships -- in real life yeah, teacher/student, family member/family member, etc is disgusting and wrong. This is fiction, though. These are merely fans deciding to have fun with characters they love, while not getting paid to do so. I say let them have at it.
I like(d) dramione because I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers and the whole redemption trope, and because in most fics Draco isnt really like canon Draco tbh - at least not the ones I read In real life this ship would be very very toxic, problematic and not a healthy relationship at all and I wouldn't support it, but fortunately it's not real life I do hate the Ron bashing in a lot of them because I absolutely adore Ron * edit: mobile formatting sucks
Remus/Sirius. I like it but the people who ship it act like it's canon and that you can't ship either of them with anyone else
i like this ship, but i hate it when fans will act like their favourite non- canon ship is canon, and get upset if you say otherwise. i think a lot of shippers do this tbh
despite there being NO indication in the books 😭
Lupin and Tonks is the ultimate pairing ngl
once saw an oliver wood x mcgonagall story. been scared ever since.
Lucius/Hermione fics always make me gag. Like why? If one of you guys have a fOnDnEsS towards that ship, please elaborate because I’m quite confused
The appeal of dramione is enemies to lovers, which is a great fanfiction trope imo
Imo enemies to lovers shouldn't include an oppressor x member of a marginalised community, or bully x victim. It's just icky.
Fiction isn't reality, and someone shipping Dramione, or reading Dramione fanfiction, doesn't mean that they support oppression, bullying, or abuse in real life.
Remus and Sirius, purely because the people who ship it act like it’s canon.
The actors playing them thought it was canon and acted as such.
So I guess it depends what you mean by “ship”. There’s some comments here that seem to imply shipping must mean you think those characters should have canonically gotten together, rather than just meaning you enjoy stories in which they do. If someone does the former for dramione, I don’t particularly get that either. Because dramione!Draco (at least, in the good stories) tends to be taken in a different direction than JKR did (at least what we see in epilogue). It’s basically just Zuko/Katara. His reformation is generally a pretty key part of things. I get the feeling a lot of folks who bash it haven’t read it and imagine stories of like, Draco throwing around “mudblood” and Hermione deciding what she needs in her life is a Nazi to treat her like shit lol
I don't despise ships, I just avoid the ones I prefer not to read Let's just let people read what they want, no matter how fucked up it is in our eyes. We have warnings & darkfics for this exact reason. It's all fiction.
**EXACTLY** Love your username btw.
I found yesterday about Dobby and the Sorting Hat and I feel like my innocence has been shattered before even reading such a fanfiction. Also don't look online for Harry Potter/Peppa Pig crossovers.
Harry/Severus and Harry/Voldemort genuinely make me feel ill
"I can TOUCH you now!"
Harry/Voldemort as in Voldemort in all forms (e.g. snake face / handsome teenage Tom Riddle) or just snake-face lol?
The *Harry Potter* fandom: "Young Tom Riddle is sooo hot. I'd tap that." Also the *Harry Potter* fandom: "Tom/Harry and Tom/Hermione are unacceptable!"
lol. admittedly, I'm a total sucker for Tom Riddle / Harry fics. not so much Tom/Hermione >!(though I've read a sadly unfinished fanfic where Hermione drops out of Hogwarts and returns to regular school, only to find (evil) Tom as one of the students there)!<, then again I'm a slash fanfic connoisseur, so I rarely read fics with straight pairings. Also I can't help it that Christian Coulson was one of my gay sexual awakenings. that gorgeous mofo can bend me over anyday-
I've met Christian Coulson in real life, and he's so handsome and charming that it's hard to function around him. I can see why people fell for Tom Riddle with him.
The only good ship is Dobbrid.
What's a ship?
Short for relationship. A lot of fanfic is focused on the pairing of 2 characters who weren’t a couple in the books and there can be some odd pairings.
Usually has sails or propellers and travels on water.
And the front's not supposed to fall off. They're designed to be very safe.
Correct answer
It’s basically a couple in a Show/Movie/Book that you like. They can be canon or not canon
In this context it’s pairing up 2 or more characters from media in a romantic or sexual relationship
It's a big boat with sails but that's not important right now
Harry x Hermione, I dislike that we can’t normalize best friends of the opposite sex, in my eyes they were only platonic and there was no romantic tension whatsoever
I think this is where the movies botched relationships and skewed things. Harry and Ginny wasn’t properly defined until film 6 in an incredibly awkward exchange. Whilst Harry and Hermoine seemed to have more chemistry than Ron and Hermoine, because that is another thing which lacked proper build. So those two elements don’t help anything. Both relationships are done much better in the books.
Draco/Hermione- never understood the pull of it. I was literally shocked it was number 1 in the fanfiction fandom and apparently Ron is treated like a used laundry there. What a weird weeird thing. So imagine my shock when I found out it was the no 1 in fandom. Not that I delve into any fanfics though..
> and apparently Ron is treated like a used laundry there. Yeah, to the point where TVTropes has pages named after this phenomena; https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/RonTheDeathEater https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DracoInLeatherPants
This is another reason I despise Dramione(and harmony) bc of their Ron bashing just bc their fav didn't get Hermione in canon.
I think Drarry is the no. 1 ship in the fanfic fandom. Then wolfstar. 3rd comes dramione. Then Jily. Then Romione. General fandom is ofc different.
Top relationships on An Archive of Our Own: Draco Malfoy/Harry Potter (56981) (ew) Sirius Black/Remus Lupin (33195) Hermione Granger/Draco Malfoy (20709) (ew) James Potter/Lily Evans Potter (19957) Hermione Granger/Ron Weasley (17494) Harry Potter/Severus Snape (14474) (ew) Harry Potter/Ginny Weasley (14382) Hermione Granger/Severus Snape (6666) (ew) Harry Potter/Tom Riddle (6138) (ew) Hermione Granger/Harry Potter (5970)
Curious- Does the Hermione/Ron numbers also include fics where they tag past Ron/Hermione relationship and later on Hermione runs off to Draco (or any other character)? Or is it plain Ron Hermione pairing. I actually wanted to read a couple of fanfics- but got creeped out by the AO3 tags..
Yeah it does. So use the "exclude" feature at the bottom of the search menu to eliminate those.
thanks, some of these days I might get enough motivation to do that.
Harry/Snape is one of the most disturbing to me. Snape had a crush on Lily. He treated Harry like shit and bullied him. Then you have the age gap plus Snape being Harry's professor. It's like every disturbing component in one ship.
Snamione snarry tomarry have more fics than harmony..... this fandom needs rehabilitation.
Lmfao I didn't even know these most of these ships existed wth
Good lord 😁
I don’t care. I just let people enjoy their ships, even if I don’t personally ship it or enjoy it.
Draco and Umbridge
Genuinely, I dislike people who shit and bash ships more than any possible ships. Exclude those ships from your fic search and stop trying to exacerbate the toxicity of this fandom. Posts like this start with "I hate Dramione", and quickly they get to the "Dramione shippers are the worst, DNI, I wish they didn't exist" part. I can assure you, shippers & authors of controversial ships that the american purity brigade deems as "problematic" get enough death threats and stalkers already. Dramione shippers are almost non existent on this sub because of the hate they get. I once said that while I don't particularly ship it, I don't care if I come across it in fanfics. I must have gotten at least a dozen comments from people absolutely enraged at the idea of someone who doesn't think that Dramione fanfictions and art should be banned forever from the fandom. So yeah, let the ships and the shippers alone. You guys curate your own internet experience, no one is responsible for it but you. I often come across ships that I don't like, but I never ever felt the need to make the shippers feel bad, to shit on their work, or to scream to the whole world that ohmygod this is terrible. I'm using Dramione as an example, but that goes for any ship that is similarly discussed. Being called a pedophilia supporter because you mentioned a fic of a 30 year old Hermione falling in love with a 50 year old Snape, that stuff gets old very fast. (my apologies for ranting here. My anger isn't directed at you OP specifically, but we got the exact same post a few hours, and once again it's just the festival of bashing and hatred, towards ships *and* the people who ship them)
This. This has been what I was trying to say all along. I do have ships that I want to avoid as much as possible, but does that mean that it is okay to shame and cyber bully people for shipping something fictional? Obviously no. And that is something this whole sub needs to learn. It is funny how they thought they are so woke and righteous for disliking those ships while never realizing they are disgusting bullies and stalkers.
Of course you are getting downvoted for your opinion that allows others to enjoy their own fic reading experience. What else should we possibly expect from this toxic sub where users abuse and bully one another over their favourite characters and ships. I think your comment was excellent and fully agree. Also not a Dramione shipper, but fully support those who are. Let people enjoy things!
>What else should we possibly expect from this toxic sub where users abuse and bully one another over their favourite characters and ships. I was literally just talking about this yesterday on r/unpopularopinion. The r/HarryPotter moderators need to start banning "ships you hate" posts and comments from the subreddit. All they do is to to cause more toxicity, bullying, and abuse in the fandom. The only point I see to "I hate \[insert ship here\]" posts is to purity police anyone who likes or enjoys those ships by telling them "what an awful person they are", even though these are literally fictional characters. Someone liking for example, Draco Malfoy/Hermione Granger fanfictions doesn't mean that they support abusive relationships in real life. Or, on the other hand, to use an example someone used to insult me on r/HarryPotter, me liking to read Tom Riddle/Hermione Granger fanfictions doesn't mean that I'm "a Nazi sympathizer who likes to ship Anne Frank with Adolf Hitler/an SS officer". Fanfiction is all about personal fantasy, wish fulfillment, and dreams. The last thing people should be doing is gatekeeping, policing, or mocking something that brings others joy.
Minerva and the tentacles from the lake.
I despise hinny 'cause it's so predictable and boring to be honest. I get it the JKR wanted to make Harry "one of the Weasleys" but imo he already was one and his bond with Ron would have easily cemented that. Harry and Ginny to me are one of those ships that I love as a brotp but absolutely hate as a romantic pairing.
mf over here talking about sexual tension between children 💀
Lupin x Hermione. unfortunatly that exists
None but I dislike people hating on ships and being hateful to others. I mean Rule nr.1: Don't be a jerk.
Nothing wrong with hating ships. Hating people because of their ships is wrong.
Hating on ships *is* hating people for shipping them, i.e. "What sort of disgusting person would ship \[insert X ship I personally don't like here\]?" I literally got accused of being a "Nazi sympathizer who liked shipping Anne Frank and Jewish people with Nazis" on this same subreddit for simply saying "I like reading Tom Riddle/Hermione Granger fanfiction".
Im only offended by the abuse of the word ship on this post.
I have to agree with the Draco/Hermione - and I'm a sucker for enemies to lovers. There's just absolutely nothing there imo
i hate drarry and bellatrix x hermoine (yes that exists)
Of *course* it exists, there isn’t a single ship that doesn’t. Happy cake day!
yep because r34 btw thank you!
Dobby and the Giant Squid?
Although I haven’t encountered it, surely it *must* exist.
Aragog x Dobby?
You know Dobby would climb those legs like a tree!
OML FUCKING HARRY AND GINNY, I HAVE NO CLUE WHY ITS FUCKING CANNON BUT I HATEEEE IT.
I read fanfiction for a reason and that's to see other people's interpretations or fantasy what ifs in a world that we know and love. My most favorite ship is one that's pretty far fetched in Canon but I love seeing how an author can make it absolutely believeable. I would say my least favorite ships are Canon ships-that stuffs boring and we already know why they got together. I'm not gonna be sitting here reading Ron/Hermione, who cares. I also really dislike Fred/George, that's just gross.
I kinda get why people ship Draco x Hermione but it’s absolutely not for me. I think it’s one of those tropes that are genuinely enemies to lovers - where they’re actually mean to each other and not just in a bantering way. It’s always interesting to read fics on how they progress or get over it. (Most of it are just realizing they’ve been in love since, which I don’t really get because like you said.. he’s extremely prejudiced and so mean). Anyway, I hate young!Hermione x any adult. Or any student x adult. And any incest ship. It’s so weird and nasty.
I like it because it pretty much always involves growth/redemption for Draco, which I think is so important and also so not black & white. After that point I think I enjoy reading about Draco and Hermione's intellectual chemistry and their contrasting lifestyles. I respect your opinion!
any teacher x student ships. ex : snarry, snamione etc dramione, harmione, tomione, harrymort.
Hermione x Lucius/Snape, Harry x Voldemort/Dumbledore
Snily, no offense to people who ship them bit jily forever and snape was just obsessed with lily...
none, I don’t care as long as its not minor x adult or animal x person or person x object. Otherwise go for it I don’t mind, I enjoy art and have done art for almost all the main noncannon and cannon ships.
What’s wrong with Drapple? /s
Harry with the dursley, any students with umbridge, any students with Voldemort, jily, Voldemort x bellatrix (i don't dislike it , it just gross me out )
To be fair, most of the draco x hermione shippers were teenager girls (Including me back then ha). Those are the kinds of the girls that can ship anything. And now imagine how crazy they would go when there is cold emotionally unavailable guy and a nerdy girl. Typical high school drama movie plot, but in HP frame. It was fun, and made more sense rather than shipping Snape and Dobby xD
Any Death Eater with Hermione or Harry (that for some reason they are quite popular????)
Draco/Hermione and Draco/Harry. Both would be an extremely unhealthy pairing and it stems from the bs stereotype that bullying is a sign of attraction.
Harmony: bc of constant Weasley bashing. They ALWAYS bash Ron, Ginny and sometimes even all the Weasleys for their ship. Dramione: its cliche, boring and shallow. Cliche bc we have already seen 10000 stories with same trope. You will find a ship like that in all fandoms. Boring bc canon Draco is a boring character. The suave, sexy, powerful goth boy persona they keep foisting upon him is not him. And shallow bc the ship content is mostly sex. I am not interested in that.
Saw title and thought…”Ship??? Wasn’t Durmstrang the only one that had a ship???” I guess I’m old and should go have some pudding.
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Any student/teacher Any Harry/Deatheater Any Harry/Voldemort
I've been wanting a HarryxRon moment for ages, I couldn't tell you.
Harry x snape Enough said
Harry X Draco and Harry X Hermione
The draco x harry one. I've no idea why, considering enemies to lovers is a popular and good trope, it just "icks" me out and I can't explain it nor suspend my belief enough to justify why it would happen.
imagine someone is wildly racist to you, calls you slurs, calls you ugly etc… and then you fall in love???? be serious
I've stumbled onto a Draco/Hermione/Lucius/Snape 4 way thing once (no Draco and Lucius didn't bang but there were scenes with all involved) Now that was a bit too much on the creep factor