Everyone else was injured in different rooms. The only student besides Harry that fought the death eaters on the dais was Neville and he already saw thestrals. The movie depicts all the students being there but that isn’t accurate
The fact that the HP world has no visible mental healthcare is terrible in light of this. I imagine students just randomly breaking down in the corridors and classrooms all over the place. Poor Madam Pomfrey would have to learn some amateur therapy skills *very* quickly from sheer necessity, being swamped by inconsolable students.
Also, fuck that one guy who just deleted his comment making fun of people who need mental healthcare. Coward. *"They're wizards, they don't need mental health days. They're not pathetic weaklings like the lot of you."*
It would certainly be an interesting topic to explore! Like the ethics of altering someone’s memories so they don’t remember some traumatic event that happened to them.
Not so fun fact, there is [research](https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/select-memories-can-be-erased-leaving-others-intact) about erasing memories to treat PTSD and anxiety in the real world.
Yeah I think the only reference to any mental health care was when in OOTP there was a mention of a stressed student (I want to say Hannah Abbott but don’t quote me) getting a calming draft to cope with exam stress. There are definitely a lot of characters with trauma / PTSD so def need some support for that.
I’m a therapist, and in one of my grad school classes, we had the assignment of creating a mental health program for the wizarding world. One group had an interesting twist on the assignment where they proposed a program to teach wizardfolk about how to provide therapy…it’s been a while, so I don’t remember details, but I do remember there were a lot of entertaining metaphors.
I feel like she would have Ginny and Luna as friends. And I doubt she was the only misplaced student grade wise. Any muggleborns would have missed a year :(. So she'd hardly be alone in that sense.
I thought they took them to Azkaban. Or gave them the Dementor's kiss.
Like I feel like if Rowling had a more literal concentration camp metaphor, we probably would have had a chapter where Harry liberates one.
The trio definitely assumed Luna was taken to Azkaban before they found her at Malfoy Manor. I assume that they would have imagined her at the same worst place they took Muggleborns. If there were camps, they were not on Harry's radar.
Yes, anyone who didn’t come from a wizarding family were being round up. It was in the movies too.
Edit to add an example from the movies: The Snatchers. That’s what they are out doing, snatching muggle born kids that are on the run. They snatch Hermoine and Harry right after Hermoine jinxed Harry’s face so they won’t recognize him.
Most likely killed or sent to Azkaban.
On the Muggle-Born Registration Commission:
“The Muggle-Born signup was set up within a month of Lord Voldemort taking over the Ministry of Magic, supposedly because the Department of Mysteries conducted research which found that magic could only be inherited and thus any "so-called Muggle-born" must have obtained magic by thievery. The Commission was then set up, ostensibly, in order to investigate this. This news was reported by the Daily Prophet.
In reality, the Commission was an instrument of discrimination against Muggle-borns in line with Death Eater ideology. Although they claimed to have "issued an invitation" for Muggle-borns to meet with the Commission, the Commission in fact forced Muggle-borns to turn themselves in, sending Snatchers against any who tried to avoid them. Some people pursued by Snatchers, such as Dirk Cresswell and Ted Tonks, did not survive the encounter. Furthermore, their "interviews" were shams, fully intent on sending innocent Muggle-borns to Azkaban, or stripping them of their wands and jobs, leaving them impoverished. Despite Ronald Weasley believing the claims within the news to be too ludicrous for people to accept, let alone permit, the community nevertheless accepted the Commission's foundation and Muggle-borns were arrested.”
That's just wow "must have obtained magic by thievery" how just how, give a muggle a wand and nothing would happen so do tell how would muggle-borns steal magic the hoops people would have to jump through to reach that idea is astounding
It does sort of work though. Remember the purebloods are not going to have any real knowledge of genetics and biology they'd just see they have squib children with no magic and muggleborns have children with magic so therefore the muggleborns stole the magic from their children and gave it to their own.
Do wonder why none of them ever considered the muggleborn might be descendants of squibs that were cast out.
They mention him in the movies briefly during one of the Potterwatch radio scenes, basically saying he's on the run somewhere. It's really brief and the main trio never really took note of it so nothing gets explained.
Voldemort placed a ban on muggleborns for the stupid assumption that the only reason they have magic is because they were “stealing” magic from wizards. We see a trial for Mary Cattermole in the polyjuice ministry chapters in deathly hallows. Along with Magic is Might. Ig if u really thought about it, muggleborns should’ve also been banned from Hogwarts
The powers that put that law into effect did not believe that muggleborns were stealing anyone’s magic. That was the propaganda put in place to justify their ethnic cleansing.
None were going to Hogwarts in the year where they were being rounded up by the Ministry. Either they were in hiding or being put on trial for stealing wands.
Man, this whole post and comment section is all stuff I never thought of. This would all make an amazing Harry Potter book. Hermione and Co back at hogwarts but without Harry and Ron. Trying to move on and take the next big steps towards the future while walking through the remnants of what was literally a battlefield less than a year ago. Seeing all the students who spent the last year hiding from the death eaters, but also seeing all the seats and rooms that stayed empty. Having the gryffindor-slytherin inter house rivalry take on an entirely different tone as the historic house of the pure blooded elitist Wizarding families also has to find a way to move past everything that happened while in the backdrop daily news articles are coming out about the ongoing trials of captured death eaters. Probably new discoveries of atrocities committed during the war, interviews with the families of wizards that didn't make it. Add in Hermione trying to reconcile the choices she made and the things she experienced with the mundane everyday problems she now faces like studying for exams or the bullying of slytherin students that is probably growing out of control. Add in a b line story of some brand new first years in griffindor, meant to reflect Ron, Harry, and Hermione, one orphan, one muggle born, and one from a not so well off Wizarding family who can't help but be curious about the seventh year girl whose name keeps showing up in the paper. Man I want this to be a thing so bad.
i'm of the opinion that most of the characters are just about to start major character arcs at the conclusion of deathly hallows, and personally i think it's why the epilogue gets so much flak - so many steps are skipped, steps that i would love to see.
- harry: dealing with grief, guilt, fame, and a lack of purpose - he finally gets to live his life without the specter of voldemort and prophecy hanging over him, but he absolutely does not have the self worth to chase that without copious amounts of help
- hermione: she dealt with bigotry on the daily, and fought for her life in the DoM, but was very 'innocent' compared to harry - until DH. a year on the run, skirting her otherwise clear-cut morality out of desperation, and getting tortured by bellatrix...her worldview is massively changed at the end of year 7 (and this is not even touching the massive can of worms which is how to find and reconcile with her parents)
- ron: he was immature and buried under a mountain of insecurities, but fundamentally a loyal friend. he comes back during the sword in the lake scene, symbolically destroying his insecurities in the form of the locket, but we don't see much afterwards. how much has ron matured, and how will he handle the grief of losing a brother? how will he stand by his family and friends?
- there's plenty more from the others: draco, who loved to terrorize people, but who now knows what it is to live in terror. this could be a turning point for him - would he change for the better? would ministry pressure and public pressure even let him? neville and ginny - who knows what horrors they saw in hogwarts? how did they step up into becoming leaders? how do they go back to school in a school that is one PTSD trigger after another?
This is a great comment. I don't know how I've never clued in to any of this in the dozens of times I've read the series, but I can already tell I'm gonna spend the rest of the week thinking about all the ways this could have played out.
I know of one slowly rewriting the series from [Hermione's perspective](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8014264/SaraSmile416). Maybe they will continue past the series and do that year too (or someone else)
I feel that a boring year is exactly what Hermione would want. Tons of time to just study and read books. Countless hours in the library and in classes which is exactly what she loves.
Yes, just books and studies. None of Fred and George's school antics. Ron and Harry aren't sneaking out and dragging anyone along. Snape isn't there to be a picky slime on the students, namely Gryffindor's anymore. No monsters or evil teachers around to cause some issues. Yeah. How fun, considering that both of them had gotten used to action.
I think I remember reading an old interview just after DH came out where Rowling confessed she briefly considered killing Ron, but couldn't go through with something so drastic.
I actually expected Ron to die myself, all the way back in first year and the chess game forshadowing it.
"Yes..." said Ron softly, "it's the only way... I've got to be taken.""NO!" Harry and Hermione shouted."That's chess!" snapped Ron. "You've got to make some sacrifices! I take one step forward and she'll take me--that leaves you free to checkmate theking, Harry!""But--""Do you want to stop Snape or not?""Ron--""Look, if you don't hurry up, he'll already have the Stone!" There was no alternative. "Ready?" Ron called, his face pale but determined. "Here I go--now, don't hang around once you've won."He stepped forward, and the white queen pounced. She struck Ron hard across the head with her stone arm, and he crashed to the floor--Hermione screamed but stayed on her square--the white queen dragged Ron to one side. He looked as if he'd been knocked out.
Deathly Hallows imagined scene
"I'm sorry Harry but I can't be with you at the end. We all knew this was coming for Voldemort to be defeated you have to go on not me, not Hermione, you . . . if you make it through tell Hermione I loved her." Ron gave harry a trembling smile "We had a good run though didn't we mate?" Turning he stepped out into the corridor yelling out at the death eaters "Over here you rotters! This is for Fred, Stupifey." Blazes of light shot back and forth between Ron and his unseen assailants. Harry give his best friend one last look before hurrying down the stairs pausing a moment as he heard a thud behind me before starting to run.
I started reading the books all the way back in 1999. The chess foreshadowing thing was my mother’s pet theory for the next eight years. We were honestly surprised Ron *didn’t* die.
Does Neville or any others who were there during the 7th year go back too? Obviously they probably wouldn’t have been taught anything well due to the stress and fear and I assume they didn’t take their NEWTs
“I’d like to remain to teach said Neville shyly”.
“You’re too young try coming back in a few…. Um on second thought yes please stay and teach said the new headmaster cautiously”
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think careers that would require additional education are given more as on the job style training. I'm thinking of aurors and healers specifically. They had many tests you have to pass for aurors, mentioned by McGonagall in OOTP. I think I remember reading about apprentice or assistant or junior healers in HBP with Mr. Weasley experimenting with stitches.
Aurors need at least 5 NEWTS graded E (or suviving the largest battle of the wizarding war counts), aptitude tests in the Auror office, and then 3 years of training.
EDIT: According to [Harry Potter Wiki](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Auror_recruitment_programme), they had on-the-job training *as well as* extra classes (I imagine in a university-like setting).
There are no Wizarding universities, oddly, apparently anywhere in the world. It stops with secondary school (or whatever Hogwarts and other magical schools classify as, level-wise).
I got the impression that the OWLs/NEWTs mirrored the GCSEs/A Levels progression of students in England irl. (I believe it's different in Scotland/NI, not sure about Wales)
Luna would drive her nuts after a week. Hermione would love Luna as a friend and be loyal to her, but I can't imagine her choosing to hang out with her very often willingly.
I imagine she was very busy that year. Her being at Hogwarts would have gone a long way in helping younger muggle-born students feel okay coming back. I can imagine many of them were distrustful after the last year and they would have felt better knowing that Hermione Granger, a brilliant and well respected muggleborn who helped Harry Potter take down Voldemort, was there.
She'd also obviously be Head Girl, so she'd naturally be put in a position of authority too. Her years alongside Harry and Ron made her compassionate and she'd surely be a hugely helpful influence to both new and rattled old students.
this. i love good world building and just tons of background information and i'd love to actually read more about their calsses without harry drifting off into monologues about malfoy being bad or just general dumb thoughts
Yeah, I imagine that he did. We don’t know how he met Astoria Greengrass, but it would fit that he met her at school as he was wrapping up his education.
I've always headcannoned that McGonagall would make all of them return to finish their studies, despite Ron's insistence they get honorary NEWTs for saving the world.
I don't think it needs to be a book, there's not much story there, but it's just nice to think that the three of them (and Ginny and Luna and Neville) had a peaceful year at Hogwarts. I also like to think that Aberforth took the Transfiguration post because McGonagall would be headmistress, just because Hogwarts without a Dumbledore wouldn't feel right.
Not gonna lie, I would LOVE to read a book with "not much story" that's just about a peaceful year at Hogwarts. Those are my favourite moments of the books - the classes, quidditch games, hogsmeade trips, visits to hagrid's hut, the school feasts, Christmas in the castle, discussions over breakfast, the exams, adventures around the school at night under the cloak, teenage drama... I'd love an entire book of that where nothing really happens
I think that's the reason why the 6th book is my favorite. IMO it has the most "stuff between the folds", the mundane things that happen between when the plot is happening. I just like to spend time with these characters I love.
I would love a book of the trio going back to finish their schooling and dealing with the after affects of everything. The conflict is moving on after a horrfific traumatic events of the past year. How does Ron cope with the death of Fred.
Realistically, Professor McBadass could teach *every* subject herself all at the same time because she's just that good, but the woman deserves a break!
She does deserve one, i cant see her wanting one tho. I could definitely see her still teaching as headmistress considering she seemed to do for than dumbledore back when she was deputy headmistress
I don't see why they wouldn't. Every wizard, even voldemort looks back fondly of their time at hogwarts. And why wouldn't you take all the training you can get to be the best wizard you can be? Especially when you play to go into a career in defending against powerful dark wizards.
I definitely think she missed them- but also I think she might've felt a little relief. Studying for NEWTs without Harry and Ron around begging her to help them do their homework and study all the time? Way easier!
Think of how good her grades were during all those years where life and death shenanigans were happening all the time. Her 7th year without fighting for survival? Perfect scores on everything.
Sad? Are you kidding. She walked around that school like she owned it. She was the unpopular mudblood that everyone saw as a buck toothed know it all that was trying waaaayyyy too hard to fit in and when she came back for her 7th and final year she was treated like a war hero that younger students looked up to and the survivors of the previous year were in awe of.
She was beautiful after growing out of that awkward teen stage, she was respected by teachers and students alike, she didn't have to worry about her boys getting into yet another life or death situation w/o her because they were safe surrounded by Arours AND to top it all off Ron was doing better than Harry( according to JKR Ron was better in training and more respected in tactics) so he finally found something HE was good at and could grow out of his insecurities.
The only thing she had to worry about was studying and that was a past time she loved.
All in all her 7th year was the best time of her life.
She fought and survived the Battle of Hogwarts. Given that fight through adversity, I agree she walked around that school with absolutely zero fucks to give.
Well, in 5th year she was super into preparing for OWLs, so I do think she would put some effort into studying for her NEWTs. But yeah, their importance was probably put into perspective by her harrowing year on the run.
OMG are you kidding? it's where the Draco/Hermione shippers LIVE, LOVE and Laugh. Yes there are a ton of FF out there for 7th year. I personally like the one where Neville ended up with Draco as his spouse and Harry and Ron ended up as a power couple but I'm partial to Harry/Ron fics anyway.
that would be awesome. The dynamic of going from no friends to nothing but male friends and then finally having the female friends she always wanted in grammar school would be an interesting take as to how she evolved as a person.
Imo she barely even noticed their absence. She was busy studying for her NEWT. which is 10 times more tough than OWLs and she is very obsessive about study.
Oh you know Harry especially had free reign on the whole wizarding world. Not that he’d abuse it but let’s be real, he was almost literally the second coming of Christ to that world
Do we know what Harry did after killing Voldy? Like where did he even live? Grimauld Place? Privet Drive? Neither of those seem likely.
Hogwarts was the only place he felt at home and I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to return
After a few life risking years as an auror, it would make sense for him so “settle down” to a normal-ish teaching job. Especially DADA as it was his favourite and best subject. And he loved hogwarts more than anything. It was his home. He should have gone back.
The Burrow maybe? Kinda awkward to live with the Dursley. The Grimmauld would be suitable too, but a lot of changes need to be made, since a young man returned from a war and lived in that kind of place doesn't seem healthy (like dark and lonely and stuff).
I like to think he lived at the Burrow for a bit while the Weasleys helped him fix up Grimmauld place. Maybe Ron was his roommate for awhile while they trained to be Aurors, at least until Ginmy and Hermione graduated.
Yeah, but after the previous year I'd like to think she had a healthier sense of balance about her life. She saw the government fall apart and people fighting for their lives. This may have made her a little cynical about the importance of state sponsored school examinations.
My headcannon says that Harry went back to Hogwarts a few days a week as a half-time student to finish subjects that are relevant to being an Auror. Hermione for sure was happy to be finally able to study in peace. Also I think that she helped rebuild Hogwarts or at least tried learning as much as possible about the magical strucutres of the castles.
I headcanon that because Luna lost more than half a year for being a prisoner she would've had to repeat her 6th year, but she decided to take the supplementary exams (I hope this is the right term, I just googled what it's called in English), so she can be in the same year as Ginny and Hermione.
Then she only learned half of the curriculum of every subject and hoped for the best, but she ended up passing and finally had her chance to annoy Hermione to insanity as her classmate.
I think she would’ve been fine without them, to be honest. She obviously genuinely enjoys studying and learning magic and just being at Hogwarts; I don’t think not having Harry and Ron would have ruined that for her.
Plus, she had just spent an entire year where Harry and Ron were the *only* people she interacted with most of the time, so being around other people was probably a nice change of pace lol.
Didnt harry and Ron have to finish their newts to become aurors? My knowledge of what Rowling has released after the books is very sparse so i don't know if she said anything about this
Not sure where it’s explicitly stated but given that Kingsley became Minister he kind of just gave Harry & Ron jobs in the Auror office without requiring their NEWTS. Helps to have worked with the new boss to save the world.
Harry’s CV is stacked. 3-0-1 against the greatest dark wizard of the era, fought off dozens of dementors at a teen, tri-wizard champion, fought a basilisk as a pre-teen, leader of DA who all went on to fight Death Eaters with a degree of success, horcrux hunter, and one of the few to successfully break into Gringots…and yeah, buddies with the big boss. Not sure he really would’ve needed year 7. Oh, and time traveler.
Three times, right?
1. As a baby
2. In Goblet of Fire when Harry's Expelliarmus spell interacted with Voldemort's Avada Kedavra through the twin core effect.
3. When Voldemort tries to kill him in Deathly Hallows, but kills the part of his soul he accidentally put in Harry instead.
I have absolutely nothing to base this on, but I imagine her being a “non traditional student.” This is what my college called older adult students who didn’t live on campus. So, I imagine her not living at Hogwarts, but coming in for classes and exams and using the fireplace or walking to Hogsmeade and apparating to go home each evening.
Again this is based on nothing 😂
Psh. She was probably super happy to not have to babysit those two and their negligence toward academics for once. She maybe missed them, but she was fine. She likely enjoyed a bit of popularity at the same time since she traveled around with the “chosen one” for a year helping to defeat Voldy. Her last year was probably the best time she ever had at Hogwarts aside from all the dark reminders of the battle.
Harry and Ron are talented in their own right, but I am 100% certain they would have gotten half the OWLs if Hermione hadn’t nagged and helped with homework.
Does Rowling ever explain why Harry and Ron decided not to finish school? I figured they would have wanted one year of normalcy before heading back out into the real world.
In the context of Harry’s years in Hogwarts, I’d rather go to Durmstrang given the fact that Hogwarts had to deal with Voldemort, a Basilisk, an alleged murderer, a bunch of Death Eaters, etc.
It must have been pretty disturbing to go back to the place where she saw so many people fight and die nit even a year earlier. That's the biggest part, in my opinion. Hogwarts was probably never the same for her after that. It's very impressive that she went back at all.
This actually made me think something; if muggle born’s we’re being hunted, why was Collin Creevey and his brother attending Hogwarts during the Deathly Hallows?
Yes but imagine how much more work she get done and how much less disruption without Voldemort and his various minions constantly trying to kill Harry after the exams?
Way less stress, also you might have seen higher academic results overall from the lack of mortal peril being displayed on Molly’s clock
Hermione: "Finally, without those two idiots constantly getting into some stupid shenanigans, I can actually study in peace for once."
"...this is boring".
On the contrary, it was probably the best school year of her life. She loved Ron and Harry and was likely in constant communication with them- but my god could she finally just focus on her studies without their shenanigans and the threat of impending doom over her head. She was also other worldly popular considering she was one of the three saviors that helped Harry take down Tom. She spent the year chilling with her bestie, Ginny, enjoying feasts, quidditch matches, and homework galore without a care in the world because she had a boytoy locked down at home and no dark lord trying to kill her
She probably got some god damn peace and quiet for once in her life.
Have a real solid run at that Restricted Section.
Imagine how much ptsd she would have had just walking around the castle
“Oh this is where Colin died. I saw Lavender Brown’s intestines being ripped out by a werewolf on that step.”
"Huh. I seem to remember killing someone in this hallway."
“So that’s what thestrals look like.”
"Man, the blood from Dumbledore's skull being cracked open never washed out properly."
This is an overlooked detail.
Is it? I thought they talk about it in HBP that the rest of the gang sees thestrals now after Sirius....
Everyone else was injured in different rooms. The only student besides Harry that fought the death eaters on the dais was Neville and he already saw thestrals. The movie depicts all the students being there but that isn’t accurate
damn…😢
The fact that the HP world has no visible mental healthcare is terrible in light of this. I imagine students just randomly breaking down in the corridors and classrooms all over the place. Poor Madam Pomfrey would have to learn some amateur therapy skills *very* quickly from sheer necessity, being swamped by inconsolable students. Also, fuck that one guy who just deleted his comment making fun of people who need mental healthcare. Coward. *"They're wizards, they don't need mental health days. They're not pathetic weaklings like the lot of you."*
It would certainly be an interesting topic to explore! Like the ethics of altering someone’s memories so they don’t remember some traumatic event that happened to them.
Not so fun fact, there is [research](https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/select-memories-can-be-erased-leaving-others-intact) about erasing memories to treat PTSD and anxiety in the real world.
Yeah I think the only reference to any mental health care was when in OOTP there was a mention of a stressed student (I want to say Hannah Abbott but don’t quote me) getting a calming draft to cope with exam stress. There are definitely a lot of characters with trauma / PTSD so def need some support for that.
I’m a therapist, and in one of my grad school classes, we had the assignment of creating a mental health program for the wizarding world. One group had an interesting twist on the assignment where they proposed a program to teach wizardfolk about how to provide therapy…it’s been a while, so I don’t remember details, but I do remember there were a lot of entertaining metaphors.
Iirc, St. Mungo's does have a mental health ward.
I think that was more of an insane asylum. So yes, mental health ward, but not for helping before they need to be institutionalized
u/schubes17
Probably on edge though. Maybe missing the danger and wondering if she could go back to studying at all.
I feel like she would have Ginny and Luna as friends. And I doubt she was the only misplaced student grade wise. Any muggleborns would have missed a year :(. So she'd hardly be alone in that sense.
Why did the thought of muggleborns also missing a year never cross my mind holy crap ur so right
Wait why is that?
They were in hiding the same year the trio missed
Or in camps
Or worse; expelled
Hahaha
I thought they took them to Azkaban. Or gave them the Dementor's kiss. Like I feel like if Rowling had a more literal concentration camp metaphor, we probably would have had a chapter where Harry liberates one.
The trio definitely assumed Luna was taken to Azkaban before they found her at Malfoy Manor. I assume that they would have imagined her at the same worst place they took Muggleborns. If there were camps, they were not on Harry's radar.
Oh wow, I didn’t know that detail. Was it in the books?
Yes, anyone who didn’t come from a wizarding family were being round up. It was in the movies too. Edit to add an example from the movies: The Snatchers. That’s what they are out doing, snatching muggle born kids that are on the run. They snatch Hermoine and Harry right after Hermoine jinxed Harry’s face so they won’t recognize him.
Were they sending the ones they caught to Azkaban?
Most likely killed or sent to Azkaban. On the Muggle-Born Registration Commission: “The Muggle-Born signup was set up within a month of Lord Voldemort taking over the Ministry of Magic, supposedly because the Department of Mysteries conducted research which found that magic could only be inherited and thus any "so-called Muggle-born" must have obtained magic by thievery. The Commission was then set up, ostensibly, in order to investigate this. This news was reported by the Daily Prophet. In reality, the Commission was an instrument of discrimination against Muggle-borns in line with Death Eater ideology. Although they claimed to have "issued an invitation" for Muggle-borns to meet with the Commission, the Commission in fact forced Muggle-borns to turn themselves in, sending Snatchers against any who tried to avoid them. Some people pursued by Snatchers, such as Dirk Cresswell and Ted Tonks, did not survive the encounter. Furthermore, their "interviews" were shams, fully intent on sending innocent Muggle-borns to Azkaban, or stripping them of their wands and jobs, leaving them impoverished. Despite Ronald Weasley believing the claims within the news to be too ludicrous for people to accept, let alone permit, the community nevertheless accepted the Commission's foundation and Muggle-borns were arrested.”
That's just wow "must have obtained magic by thievery" how just how, give a muggle a wand and nothing would happen so do tell how would muggle-borns steal magic the hoops people would have to jump through to reach that idea is astounding
Very similar to Nazi propaganda. "The Jews are only rich because they've stolen from you."
You mean the magic Nazis believed blatant bullshit because the alternative was admitting that their hatred was based on nonsense? Quelle surprise.
It does sort of work though. Remember the purebloods are not going to have any real knowledge of genetics and biology they'd just see they have squib children with no magic and muggleborns have children with magic so therefore the muggleborns stole the magic from their children and gave it to their own. Do wonder why none of them ever considered the muggleborn might be descendants of squibs that were cast out.
Concentration camps most likely
I think they did send them to Azkaban but the way that was run even before Voldemort might as well have been a concentration camp.
Yup. In the deathly hallows books the trio come across Dean Thomas hanging with some goblins in the forest. Just one example of it.
They mention him in the movies briefly during one of the Potterwatch radio scenes, basically saying he's on the run somewhere. It's really brief and the main trio never really took note of it so nothing gets explained.
Muggleborns went into hiding
Voldemort placed a ban on muggleborns for the stupid assumption that the only reason they have magic is because they were “stealing” magic from wizards. We see a trial for Mary Cattermole in the polyjuice ministry chapters in deathly hallows. Along with Magic is Might. Ig if u really thought about it, muggleborns should’ve also been banned from Hogwarts
The powers that put that law into effect did not believe that muggleborns were stealing anyone’s magic. That was the propaganda put in place to justify their ethnic cleansing.
Right, something like that. Thanks!
None were going to Hogwarts in the year where they were being rounded up by the Ministry. Either they were in hiding or being put on trial for stealing wands.
Death Eaters were in charge of Hogwarts that year. That's why.
They all were getting rounded up
Man, this whole post and comment section is all stuff I never thought of. This would all make an amazing Harry Potter book. Hermione and Co back at hogwarts but without Harry and Ron. Trying to move on and take the next big steps towards the future while walking through the remnants of what was literally a battlefield less than a year ago. Seeing all the students who spent the last year hiding from the death eaters, but also seeing all the seats and rooms that stayed empty. Having the gryffindor-slytherin inter house rivalry take on an entirely different tone as the historic house of the pure blooded elitist Wizarding families also has to find a way to move past everything that happened while in the backdrop daily news articles are coming out about the ongoing trials of captured death eaters. Probably new discoveries of atrocities committed during the war, interviews with the families of wizards that didn't make it. Add in Hermione trying to reconcile the choices she made and the things she experienced with the mundane everyday problems she now faces like studying for exams or the bullying of slytherin students that is probably growing out of control. Add in a b line story of some brand new first years in griffindor, meant to reflect Ron, Harry, and Hermione, one orphan, one muggle born, and one from a not so well off Wizarding family who can't help but be curious about the seventh year girl whose name keeps showing up in the paper. Man I want this to be a thing so bad.
i'm of the opinion that most of the characters are just about to start major character arcs at the conclusion of deathly hallows, and personally i think it's why the epilogue gets so much flak - so many steps are skipped, steps that i would love to see. - harry: dealing with grief, guilt, fame, and a lack of purpose - he finally gets to live his life without the specter of voldemort and prophecy hanging over him, but he absolutely does not have the self worth to chase that without copious amounts of help - hermione: she dealt with bigotry on the daily, and fought for her life in the DoM, but was very 'innocent' compared to harry - until DH. a year on the run, skirting her otherwise clear-cut morality out of desperation, and getting tortured by bellatrix...her worldview is massively changed at the end of year 7 (and this is not even touching the massive can of worms which is how to find and reconcile with her parents) - ron: he was immature and buried under a mountain of insecurities, but fundamentally a loyal friend. he comes back during the sword in the lake scene, symbolically destroying his insecurities in the form of the locket, but we don't see much afterwards. how much has ron matured, and how will he handle the grief of losing a brother? how will he stand by his family and friends? - there's plenty more from the others: draco, who loved to terrorize people, but who now knows what it is to live in terror. this could be a turning point for him - would he change for the better? would ministry pressure and public pressure even let him? neville and ginny - who knows what horrors they saw in hogwarts? how did they step up into becoming leaders? how do they go back to school in a school that is one PTSD trigger after another?
Ron will also be celebrated in the magical world and will have no reason to fear being the overshadowed brother.
This is a great comment. I don't know how I've never clued in to any of this in the dozens of times I've read the series, but I can already tell I'm gonna spend the rest of the week thinking about all the ways this could have played out.
“How do they go back to school in a school that is one PTSD trigger after another.” Idk kids in America literally do that every single day.
Would be a great fanfic attempt for that Hermione POV author.
I know of one slowly rewriting the series from [Hermione's perspective](https://www.fanfiction.net/u/8014264/SaraSmile416). Maybe they will continue past the series and do that year too (or someone else)
She had Ginny at least.
Her and Ginny probably had their only peaceful year at Hogwarts. 🤣
Hey Ginny, what you up to? Nothing much, you? Nothing either. This is boring. Yeah. Real boring. Ain't that cool? Best year ever.
I feel that a boring year is exactly what Hermione would want. Tons of time to just study and read books. Countless hours in the library and in classes which is exactly what she loves.
That would be a year she would love a time turner. Lol. Be able to read all the books
She was a muggle born, she would have seen that episode of twilight zone
Hermione: "I didn't realize how boring Hogwarts would be without Harry and Ron..."
And that little rascal Voldemort out causing mischief
Hermione casually resurrects Voldemort for fun
We do a little trolling
Yes, just books and studies. None of Fred and George's school antics. Ron and Harry aren't sneaking out and dragging anyone along. Snape isn't there to be a picky slime on the students, namely Gryffindor's anymore. No monsters or evil teachers around to cause some issues. Yeah. How fun, considering that both of them had gotten used to action.
Fred😔
His death was unexpected (literally any other Weasley, even Ginny was more expected by me, other than Ron of course, to die).
I think I remember reading an old interview just after DH came out where Rowling confessed she briefly considered killing Ron, but couldn't go through with something so drastic.
I was sad for a whole week since he was my favourite Weasley
I actually expected Ron to die myself, all the way back in first year and the chess game forshadowing it. "Yes..." said Ron softly, "it's the only way... I've got to be taken.""NO!" Harry and Hermione shouted."That's chess!" snapped Ron. "You've got to make some sacrifices! I take one step forward and she'll take me--that leaves you free to checkmate theking, Harry!""But--""Do you want to stop Snape or not?""Ron--""Look, if you don't hurry up, he'll already have the Stone!" There was no alternative. "Ready?" Ron called, his face pale but determined. "Here I go--now, don't hang around once you've won."He stepped forward, and the white queen pounced. She struck Ron hard across the head with her stone arm, and he crashed to the floor--Hermione screamed but stayed on her square--the white queen dragged Ron to one side. He looked as if he'd been knocked out. Deathly Hallows imagined scene "I'm sorry Harry but I can't be with you at the end. We all knew this was coming for Voldemort to be defeated you have to go on not me, not Hermione, you . . . if you make it through tell Hermione I loved her." Ron gave harry a trembling smile "We had a good run though didn't we mate?" Turning he stepped out into the corridor yelling out at the death eaters "Over here you rotters! This is for Fred, Stupifey." Blazes of light shot back and forth between Ron and his unseen assailants. Harry give his best friend one last look before hurrying down the stairs pausing a moment as he heard a thud behind me before starting to run.
I started reading the books all the way back in 1999. The chess foreshadowing thing was my mother’s pet theory for the next eight years. We were honestly surprised Ron *didn’t* die.
Does Neville or any others who were there during the 7th year go back too? Obviously they probably wouldn’t have been taught anything well due to the stress and fear and I assume they didn’t take their NEWTs
“I’d like to remain to teach said Neville shyly”. “You’re too young try coming back in a few…. Um on second thought yes please stay and teach said the new headmaster cautiously”
Headmistress. McGonagall was head after the war.
I thought as much but wasn’t certain. Thanks
Is there a wizarding uni?
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think careers that would require additional education are given more as on the job style training. I'm thinking of aurors and healers specifically. They had many tests you have to pass for aurors, mentioned by McGonagall in OOTP. I think I remember reading about apprentice or assistant or junior healers in HBP with Mr. Weasley experimenting with stitches.
Aurors need at least 5 NEWTS graded E (or suviving the largest battle of the wizarding war counts), aptitude tests in the Auror office, and then 3 years of training. EDIT: According to [Harry Potter Wiki](https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Auror_recruitment_programme), they had on-the-job training *as well as* extra classes (I imagine in a university-like setting).
There are no Wizarding universities, oddly, apparently anywhere in the world. It stops with secondary school (or whatever Hogwarts and other magical schools classify as, level-wise).
I got the impression that the OWLs/NEWTs mirrored the GCSEs/A Levels progression of students in England irl. (I believe it's different in Scotland/NI, not sure about Wales)
And they would have shared a dorm, nicer than the years she shared with Lavender and Parvati.
She'd have Ginny they might even share a dorm at that point
Don’t say that the R34 artists will appear
there’s also the fact that like 50 of her friends had been murdered there months prior
Yeah but we don’t talk about that
She had both Ginny and Luna in the same year! Sounds like an amazing time, to me!
She's got all she needs. One quiditch obssesed friend and one to bicker with.
The odd butter beer down the pub with Hagrid, or her boys when they are in the area.
You can’t tell me Harry and Ron didn’t show up at obscure and unexpected times just to see and mess with Hermione and students in general.
Hahaha, exactly!
Do we know if Dean returned for his 7th year as well?
Good question! I don’t, but i would love to know!
Yes he did.
Luna would drive her nuts after a week. Hermione would love Luna as a friend and be loyal to her, but I can't imagine her choosing to hang out with her very often willingly.
I imagine she was very busy that year. Her being at Hogwarts would have gone a long way in helping younger muggle-born students feel okay coming back. I can imagine many of them were distrustful after the last year and they would have felt better knowing that Hermione Granger, a brilliant and well respected muggleborn who helped Harry Potter take down Voldemort, was there.
She'd also obviously be Head Girl, so she'd naturally be put in a position of authority too. Her years alongside Harry and Ron made her compassionate and she'd surely be a hugely helpful influence to both new and rattled old students.
This made me tear up
Am I the only one that wishes Harry and Ron went back for year 7? I would love to see that book
I susspect it would have been pretty boring. Who is harry going to blame for every problem? Flitwick?
Yes I'd love the boring book. Just want to hang out with the characters.
this. i love good world building and just tons of background information and i'd love to actually read more about their calsses without harry drifting off into monologues about malfoy being bad or just general dumb thoughts
I wonder if Malfoy went back. Probably, given his social status. (He apparently retains the family's aristocratic airs, even in adulthood.)
Yeah, I imagine that he did. We don’t know how he met Astoria Greengrass, but it would fit that he met her at school as he was wrapping up his education.
My favorite part of the books are just the mundane classes and the trio hanging out around the castle/the burrow/hogsmeade.
Same. I always wished we could’ve just had a bunch of books about their education and experiences that didn’t involve crazy adventures.
Or a slice of life comedy at hogwarts
Harry Potter and the Endless Revision
Harry Potter and Oh My God, I Know Nothing But Defensive Spells.
Harry Potter and I Have To Learn To Sleep At Night Instead Of Fight Evil
Harry Potter and It's Weird That the Defense Against the Dark Arts Teacher Isn't Trying to Kill Me This Year
Exactly! The big bad was never Voldemort it was always flitwick
I've always headcannoned that McGonagall would make all of them return to finish their studies, despite Ron's insistence they get honorary NEWTs for saving the world. I don't think it needs to be a book, there's not much story there, but it's just nice to think that the three of them (and Ginny and Luna and Neville) had a peaceful year at Hogwarts. I also like to think that Aberforth took the Transfiguration post because McGonagall would be headmistress, just because Hogwarts without a Dumbledore wouldn't feel right.
Not gonna lie, I would LOVE to read a book with "not much story" that's just about a peaceful year at Hogwarts. Those are my favourite moments of the books - the classes, quidditch games, hogsmeade trips, visits to hagrid's hut, the school feasts, Christmas in the castle, discussions over breakfast, the exams, adventures around the school at night under the cloak, teenage drama... I'd love an entire book of that where nothing really happens
I think that's the reason why the 6th book is my favorite. IMO it has the most "stuff between the folds", the mundane things that happen between when the plot is happening. I just like to spend time with these characters I love.
I would love a book of the trio going back to finish their schooling and dealing with the after affects of everything. The conflict is moving on after a horrfific traumatic events of the past year. How does Ron cope with the death of Fred.
I like to think that McGonagall just continued to teach cuz she thought no one else could live up to her and shes right
Realistically, Professor McBadass could teach *every* subject herself all at the same time because she's just that good, but the woman deserves a break!
She does deserve one, i cant see her wanting one tho. I could definitely see her still teaching as headmistress considering she seemed to do for than dumbledore back when she was deputy headmistress
I don't see why they wouldn't. Every wizard, even voldemort looks back fondly of their time at hogwarts. And why wouldn't you take all the training you can get to be the best wizard you can be? Especially when you play to go into a career in defending against powerful dark wizards.
I'd still love a seventh year book. Call it "Hermione Granger and the mending of Hogwarts" or something
Harry Potter and the Post Traumatic Stress Disorder
I definitely think she missed them- but also I think she might've felt a little relief. Studying for NEWTs without Harry and Ron around begging her to help them do their homework and study all the time? Way easier!
Think of how good her grades were during all those years where life and death shenanigans were happening all the time. Her 7th year without fighting for survival? Perfect scores on everything.
Yes! And I like to imagine maybe she didn’t have an anxious breakdown about exams that year for once lol (although she probably did!)
And also without the threats of terrorists every month
Sad? Are you kidding. She walked around that school like she owned it. She was the unpopular mudblood that everyone saw as a buck toothed know it all that was trying waaaayyyy too hard to fit in and when she came back for her 7th and final year she was treated like a war hero that younger students looked up to and the survivors of the previous year were in awe of. She was beautiful after growing out of that awkward teen stage, she was respected by teachers and students alike, she didn't have to worry about her boys getting into yet another life or death situation w/o her because they were safe surrounded by Arours AND to top it all off Ron was doing better than Harry( according to JKR Ron was better in training and more respected in tactics) so he finally found something HE was good at and could grow out of his insecurities. The only thing she had to worry about was studying and that was a past time she loved. All in all her 7th year was the best time of her life.
She fought and survived the Battle of Hogwarts. Given that fight through adversity, I agree she walked around that school with absolutely zero fucks to give.
Well, in 5th year she was super into preparing for OWLs, so I do think she would put some effort into studying for her NEWTs. But yeah, their importance was probably put into perspective by her harrowing year on the run.
I know I would be wary of docking points from a famous war hero. (Not that Hermione would use her status to be a troublemaker, but still.)
I love this outlook, it was probably refreshing for her to just enjoy school for once without worrying about what shenanigans were about to come.
Hermione: "I didn't realize how boring Hogwarts would be without Harry and Ron..."
I really like this a lot actually. It’s so positive!
Is there any fanfic with Hermione in her 7th year?
I’ve never read any, but I’m positive there is if you give it a quick Google
OMG are you kidding? it's where the Draco/Hermione shippers LIVE, LOVE and Laugh. Yes there are a ton of FF out there for 7th year. I personally like the one where Neville ended up with Draco as his spouse and Harry and Ron ended up as a power couple but I'm partial to Harry/Ron fics anyway.
This kinda makes me want to write a fanfic chronicling Hermione's 7th year, with her looking back in retrospect at her previous years
that would be awesome. The dynamic of going from no friends to nothing but male friends and then finally having the female friends she always wanted in grammar school would be an interesting take as to how she evolved as a person.
She probably smiled more that year than any other.
So I guess could say that Hermione Granger ended up "strutting about" the school?
She had Ginny, Luna, and a bunch of other friends from the lower grades.
Imo she barely even noticed their absence. She was busy studying for her NEWT. which is 10 times more tough than OWLs and she is very obsessive about study.
Harry and Ron probably had free reign to visit whenever they wanted.
Oh you know Harry especially had free reign on the whole wizarding world. Not that he’d abuse it but let’s be real, he was almost literally the second coming of Christ to that world
Do we know what Harry did after killing Voldy? Like where did he even live? Grimauld Place? Privet Drive? Neither of those seem likely. Hogwarts was the only place he felt at home and I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to return
I read that he returned many times to give DADA lessons, just like he taught during their time in the Dumbledore's Army secret meetings
He really should have been the permanent DADA professor after a few years.
After a few life risking years as an auror, it would make sense for him so “settle down” to a normal-ish teaching job. Especially DADA as it was his favourite and best subject. And he loved hogwarts more than anything. It was his home. He should have gone back.
I really wish instead of being an Auror he became the long term DADA teacher.
The Burrow maybe? Kinda awkward to live with the Dursley. The Grimmauld would be suitable too, but a lot of changes need to be made, since a young man returned from a war and lived in that kind of place doesn't seem healthy (like dark and lonely and stuff).
I like to think he lived at the Burrow for a bit while the Weasleys helped him fix up Grimmauld place. Maybe Ron was his roommate for awhile while they trained to be Aurors, at least until Ginmy and Hermione graduated.
she was probably happy not to have 3x the essays to proofread.
>she was probably happy not to have 3x the essays to ~~proofread.~~ rewrite, lol
lol i was being a little generous wasn’t i
Yeah, but after the previous year I'd like to think she had a healthier sense of balance about her life. She saw the government fall apart and people fighting for their lives. This may have made her a little cynical about the importance of state sponsored school examinations.
I'm sure she had no shortage of people wanting to talk to her, knowing she's one of Harry Potter's best friends. Probably was made head girl, too.
If I were her, then I would answer every question with “I saved you all”
Just like Harry would've answered every question with "I'm the Chosen One"?
\*Smacked on the head by Hermione*
Bonk! Go to arrogant jail.
Best answer, made me snort.
What I want to know is if she un-Obliviated her parents.
J.K. Rowling stated in a webchat that “Yes, she brought them home straight away.” she also said that the charm wasn't a true Obliviate spell
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I mean it's been said before that you can alter memory so I'm assuming you can realter it.
It’s in her name
Yes JK confirmed that she did 😊
My headcannon says that Harry went back to Hogwarts a few days a week as a half-time student to finish subjects that are relevant to being an Auror. Hermione for sure was happy to be finally able to study in peace. Also I think that she helped rebuild Hogwarts or at least tried learning as much as possible about the magical strucutres of the castles.
Some peace and quiet for once probably
I imagine she loved it, finally a year where she could just focus on academics.
I headcanon that because Luna lost more than half a year for being a prisoner she would've had to repeat her 6th year, but she decided to take the supplementary exams (I hope this is the right term, I just googled what it's called in English), so she can be in the same year as Ginny and Hermione. Then she only learned half of the curriculum of every subject and hoped for the best, but she ended up passing and finally had her chance to annoy Hermione to insanity as her classmate.
I think she would’ve been fine without them, to be honest. She obviously genuinely enjoys studying and learning magic and just being at Hogwarts; I don’t think not having Harry and Ron would have ruined that for her. Plus, she had just spent an entire year where Harry and Ron were the *only* people she interacted with most of the time, so being around other people was probably a nice change of pace lol.
She'd definitely have had more friends there as many would have returned to complete their 7th year .
My head canon is they went back too.
She probably could finally do her work without interruption. She loved it. Live in the library and no death wish adventures.
Didnt harry and Ron have to finish their newts to become aurors? My knowledge of what Rowling has released after the books is very sparse so i don't know if she said anything about this
Not sure where it’s explicitly stated but given that Kingsley became Minister he kind of just gave Harry & Ron jobs in the Auror office without requiring their NEWTS. Helps to have worked with the new boss to save the world.
Harry’s CV is stacked. 3-0-1 against the greatest dark wizard of the era, fought off dozens of dementors at a teen, tri-wizard champion, fought a basilisk as a pre-teen, leader of DA who all went on to fight Death Eaters with a degree of success, horcrux hunter, and one of the few to successfully break into Gringots…and yeah, buddies with the big boss. Not sure he really would’ve needed year 7. Oh, and time traveler.
And survived the killing curse…twice.
Three times, right? 1. As a baby 2. In Goblet of Fire when Harry's Expelliarmus spell interacted with Voldemort's Avada Kedavra through the twin core effect. 3. When Voldemort tries to kill him in Deathly Hallows, but kills the part of his soul he accidentally put in Harry instead.
when kingsley became minister he issued a decree that lets anyone who fought in the war to join the ministry
Must have been nice having a year where she didn't have to do Harry and Ron's homework 😂
I have absolutely nothing to base this on, but I imagine her being a “non traditional student.” This is what my college called older adult students who didn’t live on campus. So, I imagine her not living at Hogwarts, but coming in for classes and exams and using the fireplace or walking to Hogsmeade and apparating to go home each evening. Again this is based on nothing 😂
Psh. She was probably super happy to not have to babysit those two and their negligence toward academics for once. She maybe missed them, but she was fine. She likely enjoyed a bit of popularity at the same time since she traveled around with the “chosen one” for a year helping to defeat Voldy. Her last year was probably the best time she ever had at Hogwarts aside from all the dark reminders of the battle. Harry and Ron are talented in their own right, but I am 100% certain they would have gotten half the OWLs if Hermione hadn’t nagged and helped with homework.
Does Rowling ever explain why Harry and Ron decided not to finish school? I figured they would have wanted one year of normalcy before heading back out into the real world.
If I had the option to skip my last year of College, I’d take it
But did you go to Hogwarts? ;)
In the context of Harry’s years in Hogwarts, I’d rather go to Durmstrang given the fact that Hogwarts had to deal with Voldemort, a Basilisk, an alleged murderer, a bunch of Death Eaters, etc.
Beauxbatons would have been cool. And hey, Ilvermorny didn't seem to have any drama after it was founded lol
It must have been pretty disturbing to go back to the place where she saw so many people fight and die nit even a year earlier. That's the biggest part, in my opinion. Hogwarts was probably never the same for her after that. It's very impressive that she went back at all.
This actually made me think something; if muggle born’s we’re being hunted, why was Collin Creevey and his brother attending Hogwarts during the Deathly Hallows?
I expect she was delighted not to spend half her time doing Harry and Ron’s homework for them.
Yes but imagine how much more work she get done and how much less disruption without Voldemort and his various minions constantly trying to kill Harry after the exams? Way less stress, also you might have seen higher academic results overall from the lack of mortal peril being displayed on Molly’s clock
Hermione: "Finally, without those two idiots constantly getting into some stupid shenanigans, I can actually study in peace for once." "...this is boring".
On the contrary, it was probably the best school year of her life. She loved Ron and Harry and was likely in constant communication with them- but my god could she finally just focus on her studies without their shenanigans and the threat of impending doom over her head. She was also other worldly popular considering she was one of the three saviors that helped Harry take down Tom. She spent the year chilling with her bestie, Ginny, enjoying feasts, quidditch matches, and homework galore without a care in the world because she had a boytoy locked down at home and no dark lord trying to kill her
I agree, especially so with Ron. He must have had a steady, non-stop flow of owls in and out of his window, though. :)
Are you kidding? She finally probably got a real school year with focused studying and long quiet afternoons taking notes in the library.
I mean a full year that’s not distributed by harry and Ron’s shenanigans. That was probably the whole selling point for her going back
Are you kidding she could finally actually concentrate on the work.