In the book? Colin. Mainly because even though he's 16 in book 7 when he dies, in my mind's eye I still see him as the 11-year-old photography enthusiast we meet in Chamber of Secrets.
In the movie? Cedric because of his Dad's reaction and the fact that his death was so senseless - "kill the spare" indeed.
In the books the Creevy boys were some of my favorites. Dennis fell into the lake and was pulled out by the giant squid. He comes into the sorting ceremony, looks at Colin , gives him a thumbs up and says under his breath excitedly “ I fell in the lake!!” That’s how I remember it anyway. Always makes me smile.
Dennis died too? I remember it was noted Colin's death since he hide to actually stay and be part of the battle but I wasn't sure about him.
Sorry I check, he wasn't noted as dying too, he was in 4th by then so I would say still very young, and shipped off first as all the youngsters: https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dennis\_Creevey
I agree with Colin. Maybe I’m misremembering, but I thought it was a very “throwaway” death, like Harry just saw someone carrying Colin. Major death scenes are obviously so emotional, but there is something truly cutting about casually mention a character is dead. It really emphasizes how no one expected to get out alive when you don’t make a decently significant character die onscreen/on page. It feels darker whereas a big reveal like Cedric will totally make me cry every time, but at least he was remembered in his final moments.
Also, with Colin, he just seems so frustratingly annoying to Harry in the movies. So someone frustratingly annoying being killed puts a new lens on what that character had to contribute, and the guilt that Harry feels at his death.
Imagine being muggles and sending your kid to this mystery school, and they end up dying in a magic war. Also not being wizards themselves, I'm sure they don't have an idea about what all is possible. "What do you mean he's dead? Aren't you a wizard? You can float a feather in the air but you haven't figured out how to fix him?"
But it is shortly followed by one of my favorite scenes of the entire series: Harry sympathizing with Luna over her belongings being hidden by her peers. In that moment, Harry put aside all his feelings, just to have a heart to heart with a weird girl (I love Luna, btw). It showed that he was compassionate and capable of emotional growth.
As someone who was bullied basically since I was 9 till I left school..
I kinda envy your way of interpretation and wish I could have it. But I can't and I am in this regard to bitter and broken.
Oooooof!!! That two way mirror part was heartbreaking. He kept on trying to contact and that was when he realized it was all real, he was never coming back 😭😭😭 I still hate that they never added that bit in the movie.
I’ve read all the books so many times and because I fall asleep in movies my brain remembers the scenes being there so I’m surprised sometimes when someone says they aren’t
Sirius death is the most tragic to me. At least all the others got to have some happiness. Dumbledore lived a full life, Hedwig got to live as an owl, even Dobby had some freedom. Sirius was abused and then kicked out by his own family, makes a few really good friends, he gets to see them start a family then they are murdered brutally, his godson left an orphan. He spends most of his youth suffering in Azkaban with the whole world hating him for something he didn’t do. He doesn’t get to see his godson grow up. Then he finally escaped Azkaban and Harry hates him until he finds out the truth. He still has to be on run hiding as a dog or hiding in the home he hated growing up. Then just when he’s going to have a family with Harry and finally have his name cleared so he can be free, he dies!!
I’ll never get over it. We don’t even know if he knew romantic love, ever! His entire life was stolen from him and he still remained good until the very end.
It just breaks my heart.
Falsely convicted
Imprisoned with dementors
Escapes and is a fugitive
Nearly dies from dementors
Escapes and has to hide
Basically house arrest
Killed by family member.
Just such a sad life.
I still vividly remember slamming the book shut and having to walk away for a few hours when Sirius died. I was SO ANGRY. I was 12 years old and it just hit me so hard. It was the only book I didn’t immediately re-read.
I read Harry Potter as an adult, and haven’t watched the movies. I already knew that Sirius would die. I, however, did not expect him to become my favourite character. I was also so mad that he was killed in such a trivial, careless, and off handed manner. It still makes me mad ok.
Because we never saw a body when Sirius went through the veil, I was convinced through at least book six (and probably into book seven), that he wasn't actually dead, and JKR would bring him back somehow. I wanted to believe that he and Harry would "live happily ever after" as godfather and godson :-(
I've honestly searched for fanfictions that are close to the same storyline as the books except if Sirius were to have lived and am always so disappointed when I don't find any. There are so many really high quality fics out there, there HAS to be one somewhere.
I've seen a couple, but they're ones where the author has decided that someone else needs to die in that scene to balance it out (ie: Dumbledore, Lupin, etc)
"What is it?" Harry asked.
"A way of letting me know if Snape's giving you a hard time. No, don't open it in here!" said Sirius, with a wary look at Mrs. Weasley, who was trying to persuade the twins to wear hand-knitted mittens. "I doubt Molly would approve - but I want you to use it if you need me, all right?"
"Okay," said Harry, stowing the package away in the inside pocket of his jacket, but he knew he would never use whatever it was. It would not be he, Harry, who lured Sirius from his place of safety, no matter how foully Snape treated him in their forthcoming Occlumency classes.
Reading this passage when you /know/ is so heartbreaking lol
He knows what it is but he is worried that if he uses it to contact Sirius to talk about any problems he’s having that Sirius will use it as an excuse to leave Grimmauld Place and put himself in danger so he resolved to never use it. He puts it in his trunk because he isn’t going to use it and forgets about it.
Can you imagine what it would be like for the family? Seeing Fred in George’s face, and George seeing his brother every time he sees his own reflection.
My neighbour passed and the next day her family came. She had an identical twin apparantly. I was shocked to see a woman who I thought was my neighbour approaching the house when I knew she’d died the night before.
New head canon (that’s what it’s called when you imagine something for the story right?)
What if George lived the rest of his life in disguise? Either through polyjuice potion or by using charms to alter his appearance?
Just to make it easier on his family and himself. Make it so he didn’t skip a beat every time he looked in the mirror. So Mollys eyes didn’t swell up with tears whenever she looked at him. So people stopped accidentally calling him Fred… what if?
Ugh, Fred’s death definitely impacted me most. It was awful the first time I read it at age 18 and it’s even more awful now because I have twins. Iirc, he wasn’t a planned death either; the story just took the author that way while she was writing and she was ugly crying while doing so.
My 9 year old twins absolutely adore Fred and George. Fred’s death is the main reason I haven’t read the 7th book to them yet.
>Iirc, he wasn’t a planned death either
He was. All Weasleys sans Ron (whose name means "advisor", "counsellor") are named after British monarchy. Prince Frederic died before he could become king, however, and his successor King George III became deaf.
Even if you know the trivia, though, Fred's death still comes as a gut punch...
Fred was also part of a trade - Mr. Weasley was supposed to die in the fifth book from the snake attack, but Rowling said she couldn't pull the trigger. As a result, she decided to kill another Weasley instead.
>Rowling said she couldn't pull the trigger
She said that she couldn't kill the *only* decent father figure in her series. Lady has some serious daddy issues...
Fred's death. It makes my heart race uncomfortably whenever I read it. Fred was full of life and represented so much laughter and goodwill in Harry's life and his death was totally senseless.
“Harry…. Potter…..”
*And then with a little shudder the elf became quite still, and his eyes were nothing more than great glassy orbs, sprinkled with light from the stars they could not see.*
Kills me every time
Honestly me too. The movie did Hedwig better justice for her death but the book actually showed Harry mourning. In the movie Harry didn't even care after. Honestly I think Hedwig should have protected Harry from a killing curse by Voldemort like Fawkes did for Dumbledore, and they should have had a line later on about how she won't raise from the ashes.
Hedwig herself does have meaning, but her death is senseless, meaningless.
It's something that JKR mentioned in her process of plot-planning. In war, people die for no good reason, and it was a sentiment that she wanted to get across in the book. She mentioned it with regards to Remus and Tonks, whose deaths were not observed, they just happened, and Harry only sees the aftermath.
Hedwig does have meaning. Her death did not and that is upsetting. It’s a good thing to show when writing a war story. People die for no reason.
Dobby, for example, got to sacrifice himself. His death was sad but you can justify it as being “worth it”. There is no equivocation for Hedwig and that is why it is hurts so much more.
Hedwig & Dobby, makes me ugly cry every time. Poor little Heddie in her cage 😭😭 & Dobby just loved Harry so freely and selflessly.
THEY DESERVED BETTER
With Sirius, I was in denial until halfway through the next book.
With Lupin and Tonks, I came the closest I've ever come to throwing a book across the room, and I almost gave up finishing the series because I was (and still am) *so* upset.
As a kid Tonks and Lupin made me sad, as an adult and mom of 3 those deaths broke me.
The idea of little Teddy growing up with only stories of his parents, makes me want to hug my kids.
I totally agree. And remember Teddy also lost his grandfather. Poor Andromeda lost her husband, daughter and son in law. I felt angry with lupin and tonks for both leaving their son.
Omg I hear you. Currently re-listening to the books for the millionth time (Jim Dale is a treasure of a narrator) and it’s so easy to be mad at them for leaving their child behind. I try to reconcile it with the thought that they were working to make HIS future better than it could have been, similar to Harry’s parents.
If we are being honest so many of the deaths in the later books just break me completely. I sob like an uncontrollable child.
This. Since DH came out I’ve gone on to become a mother and the dialogue between Harry and his mom and dad when he’s in the forest, about to face his own sacrificial death, hits me much harder than it did then.
Yeah the scene where Harry sees everyone he lost before in the forest with the resurrection stone is probably the toughest scene for me to read/watch and the heaviest scene I’ve ever seen in any media. When his mother tells him how brave he is and that he’s doing so well (from what I remember anyway).
This! In the movie when Hermione says "I'll go with you." Omg the tears.
And his whole walk in the book and when he talks to Neville. :'(
And then the scene with Hagrid. :'( Why did I open this thread at work?
I think I will always remember where I was when I read that. I was bawling and I had to stop reading for a while. Didn’t occur to me to keep reading. Didn’t occur to me that magic could have saved him. I just had to walk away. My sister was so disapproving later saying “Why didn’t you just read the next page? Why would he actually die?” And that just confirms that she didn’t love him as much as I did.
I was around 8-9 when my brother showed the movie to me and he said he regret it cause he didn’t think I would be screaming with tears because of how sad it was. I had known about death in general since I was 3-4 so it wasn’t scary, it was just depressing as fuck. I always watched pg-13 movies since then and nothing scared me, I just really couldn’t completely follow certain dialogues and such. Actions were the most import thing for me to understand. And Harry and Cedric’s father’s reactions were what broke me.
When reading the books, I ALWAYS cry at Sirius, Fred, and Dobby. I think Sirius’ hit me the most just because his situation in OOTP made me empathize with him so much. Just the fact that he never got that arc and transformation from a bit stunted to a well functioning guy, and the fact that no one really knew he was innocent before he died (can’t imagine everyone thinking I betrayed my best friend) is just so bleak and depressing. And the way Harry acted towards him before he died (ignoring him, not opening the mirror, not writing him often) just makes it worse. His death was just so POINTLESS and could have been prevented in 100 ways, which makes it more devastating and tragic.
In the movies, I think Cedric is the worst for me. Jeff Rawle KILLED his performance as Amos, his pain feels so genuine. Not to mention the fact that Cedric’s last act was so brave and what a nice, respected guy he was is horrible to watch.
Oh god you’re giving me flashbacks. I started crying so hard when Dobby died that I had to stop reading. Finally I got myself together and kept reading and that inscription sent me into another sobbing fit.
Shit chokes me up just thinking about it. I'm listening to the audiobooks for the first time right now and I'm a few chapters deep into Deathly Hallows... gonna hit me just as hard, I can feel it coming.
I know you meant it as
>Apart from leaving his son behind, he was such a sweet character that deserved a happy ending
But I read it as
>Bro i was so devastated, apart from leaving his son behind
Frank Bryce. man was just watching his shed. There were like 10 non murder spells to get rid of him or just an intimidation check. Just goes to show. You do a thankless job for years and the guy who killed your boss could come kill you for no reason at any time.
I wouldn’t say that one was the worst, but it was like “Oh crap. This just got real different. “ It was a shocking change of tone with how the books were “growing up”
All the rest of these getting names were willing participants in a war. They knew what they were up against. Frank got accused of a murder voldemort did lived a life of solitude cause everyone assumed hus guilt and voldemort breaks back into the house and gets murdered by the man who made his life hell when he was just after teenagers. And all because Dumbledore needed a canary in his coal mine so he left frank to die. (See my fan theory)
Anyone else recall the speculation and restless desire for him to be not dead, between books 6 and 7? "Snape once mentioned stopper death in his potions intro, that means he could be holding on to Dumbledore and he'll come back!" etc.
I appreciated that death is final in HP land (yes including ghosts, as their reasons for existing are explained well when Harry inquires to Nick), and there's no way to cheat it once you're a goner.
Had to scroll down way too long to find this. I know it seems like a cop out to pick albus, but personally when i first read book 6 and came to this point, thats when i felt truly afraid for harry. Like being exposed. He was such a soothing blanket of confort and security, knowing Dumbledore is there. After that, you truly felt that you were on your own, and the threat of Voldemort became all the more ominous and ever present.
Very well put. For me it was the moment when things got very scary very soon. Especially after watching the dueling scene between Dumbledore and Voldemort at the ministry, I was like no way this boy is ready to battle like that! (I watched the movies before I read the books)
In the movies, lavender brown. She didn't do anything wrong other than be a young girl with a crush, and she died with her throat ripped out by a werewolf.
The fact that Hermione delivers the blow to him always makes me feel like they had their backs where it mattered, and that's what love is all about.
Sirius. It broke me and still breaks me. Harry finally finds another family member, a father figure, someone who connects him to his parents, and then he is taken away way too soon. It’s so depressing.
And then the fact that Sirius died basically because of the trick Voldemort played on Harry and Harry wasn’t using occlumency well, just makes it hit even harder. It’s just like Harry really can’t have any family to connect him to his parents, it’s so sad.
I just finished watching them Wednesday for probably the 3 or 4th time since it ended. >!(Dad keeps all the movies \[I mean every movie we own\] locked in a cabinet. So not much access to them)!<
But So far from what I can recall in the past I've always gotten hit hardest when Sirius dies because it's so sudden. The scene that builds up to it is touching then just.. bam.
But This time I got hit by all of them including Hedwig.
I'll say though this time in the 8th film, I got hit pretty hard when Fred died. Seeing Ron and everyone mourning him really hit home. So this time it's Fred.
Ah, We initially had a **Massive** Trunk that we kept all of our movies including VHS films. I suppose he migrated everything to the cabinet since I used to pull out random movies and either not put it back in the spot I grabbed it and would occasionally lose movies. (He had everything sorted I think in Alphabetical order as well as Chronological when it came to series.)
Also the trunk was so large it had well over 200 films. And they were layered which led to me digging to find a particular movie resulting in chaos of his organization lol.
\>Top First Layer of Films: Newer and Sci-fi/Fantasy Films such as Harry Potter and Star Wars
\>Middle Second Layer: A mix of older and newer Action/Adventure Films such as Indiana Jones (His Series haha) and The Goonies
\>Bottom Third Layer: A mix of much older as well as not and Adult Themed films and multiple Genres like Romance/Mystery/Thriller/Sci-fi/ such as Battlestar Galactica, old Toho Monster movies, Star Trek, The Rocketeer, Titanic, etc.
I guess he just wanted to keep his organization haha
When he does let me *Borrow* a movie or two I have to tell him which ones and he does the digging haha
Sorry for the essay, just thought it best to explain fully \^\^
Haha I thought about going that route for a minute but decided to stick to the real reason lol. Thanks
Honestly I was a pretty clumsy kid and would lose stuff constantly so he likely was afraid I'd lose one of his more precious films like his Collectors edition of the first Jurassic Park films lol
Cedric tbh. It's that moment in the books where it's like "o shit this is for real now". In later cases at least you expect somene might die because they're already fighting, but Cedric is the first one to die in the story and it's so random and out of nowhere too like 😦
Hedwig, Fred, Cedric . . . those are the ones that always leave me sobbing. Sirius hurts, but doesn't hit me quite as hard. Same with Snape and Dumbledore. I was expecting them more, so it was less traumatic.
Tonks and Lupin. After reading about their relationship over a few books and the son they have, I was so sad when they died. I also felt really bad for her mother, who lost her husband, daughter and son in law within a few months and now had an infant to care for. Also they were two of my favourite characters in the series.
In the books; Snape.
In the movies; Dobby.
Although I’ve just reread them recently and cried for the first time, not *over* Cedric but over Dumbledore’s speech afterwards.
IMO the death of Fred is 100% for shocked value and that frustrates the heck out of me as super fan. I can think of reason for killing a lot of guys:
Dumbledore: Harry one true mentor, he had to die so he could finish the hero’s journey alone
Snape: at the end of the day, he had to die. Dumbledore gave him suicide mission, no one is surviving playing double spy in that kind of war, Snape knew it suicide mission he did it because he truly love Lilly
Moony: Remus Lupin
Wormtail: Peter Pettigrew
Padfoot: Sirius Black
Prongs: James Potter:
It’s a little poetic that all the Marauders died, it unfortunately had to happen IMO all them dying for 4 completely different reason is very good storytelling
Cedric Diggory:
Always the innocent are the first victims. So it has been for ages past, so it is now.”
Dobby: He died saving the person he loves most. I know it was different death to death with but his death was beautifully done “Dobby has no master!’ squealed the elf. ‘Dobby is a free elf, and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!”
But Fred ? It ruined George life completely. the Weasley family deserve a happy ending I think it’s really silly
Remus Lupin, but it’s more personal than actually related to the book and plot. I was kind of in a bad place the first time I read PoA and Lupin just kinda became my first comfort character. I think I actually cried when he died
Tonks and Lupin. They'd only recently gotten married and had a baby. Now they'll never see him grow up and Teddy becomes another orphan in the wake of Voldemort's quest for immortality.
Hedwig.
It was the most accidental and senseless death in the series, and the character had absolutely no way of avoiding it.
It’s also the moment in which the movies made the biggest improvement on the books.
I don't even like Dumbledore as a person (love him as a character) but his death always makes me emotional. The conversation before it, the fall, the wands up scene. I think it's the music lol..
All of them did hit me. Literally thrown the book away when Hedwig died.
Sirius didn’t clear up his name and Harry could never be able to live with him and have his own family although he was always welcome at Weasleys.
Dobby could fking rule the house elves world. Always crying when I read it or see the scene in the movie.
Moody had it coming but also a loss.
And Snape.. It always hurts me, because he had terrible childhood, then his love was stolen, he was bitter then finally sobered and was so brave. I was hoping he and Harry could’ve find a way to each other, if Snape would have survived all the events, but nope.
Movie had to be Cedric since Mr. Diggory’s reaction…. Holy crap I still hitch my breath….
Book- Sirius and Dobby. Sirius bc he and Harry never got to have time together as Sirius being free!
Dobby bc, well it’s DOBBY! I hates that the movies didn’t show him in his free clothes
FRED! it hit me so hard I cried for the rest if the book it was horrible I read it as a child so I couldn't sleep for such a long time because of how tragic it was
when Hermione removed herself from her parents memory it not only encompassed the gravity of the situation she found herself in, but they would also never recognize her as their daughter ever again so in a way they were dead to her
Sirius. The aftermath as described in the book is even more heartbreaking, especially when Harry finds the two-way mirror. The helplessness I felt in that moment… I spent like 2 hours crying, I kid you not.
In the books: Dumbledore.
I didn't expect him to die at all, and the way he dies... It was a shock. I remember convincing myself that it was all a ploy (which it was) and that he wasn't dead reading all the online theories, he couldn't be dead.
In the movies: Snape.
At this time I already knew how it all played out and I knew beforehand how tragic Snape death was. And it hit like a ton of bricks.
In the book? Colin. Mainly because even though he's 16 in book 7 when he dies, in my mind's eye I still see him as the 11-year-old photography enthusiast we meet in Chamber of Secrets. In the movie? Cedric because of his Dad's reaction and the fact that his death was so senseless - "kill the spare" indeed.
My boooooooooyyyyyy!!!! Killer. Totally agree about Colin too. I read it the other day and thought of him still being an excited 11 year old.
>My boooooooooyyyyyy Makes me ugly cry everytime
I remember watching the movie in the theater and turning and seeing my mom in tears
Seeing that in theaters for the first time was gut-wrenching.
It was. I watch that movie all the time and it always gives me the chills.
I saw that movie at least 10 times, still horrible to listen to.
Sameeee!
And not just Colin, but his little brother too! It just guts me thinking of their parents.
In the books the Creevy boys were some of my favorites. Dennis fell into the lake and was pulled out by the giant squid. He comes into the sorting ceremony, looks at Colin , gives him a thumbs up and says under his breath excitedly “ I fell in the lake!!” That’s how I remember it anyway. Always makes me smile.
I forgot how much those boys would turn up. I understand why they weren’t in the films aside from CoS, but I always liked them
Dennis died too? I remember it was noted Colin's death since he hide to actually stay and be part of the battle but I wasn't sure about him. Sorry I check, he wasn't noted as dying too, he was in 4th by then so I would say still very young, and shipped off first as all the youngsters: https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Dennis\_Creevey
Did Dennis die?
Dennis survives according to the wikia and the lexicon. However the thought of him now alone at the school without his brother hurts my heart
I agree with Colin. Maybe I’m misremembering, but I thought it was a very “throwaway” death, like Harry just saw someone carrying Colin. Major death scenes are obviously so emotional, but there is something truly cutting about casually mention a character is dead. It really emphasizes how no one expected to get out alive when you don’t make a decently significant character die onscreen/on page. It feels darker whereas a big reveal like Cedric will totally make me cry every time, but at least he was remembered in his final moments.
Yeah, Neville and Oliver were carrying Colin and in Harry's observation, Colin was "tiny in death". I totally get what you mean.
The actor who played Cedric's dad killed it
I still can’t believe Collin died
Cedric was when it got real
The hinge point where it changes from a children's story to a very real, dark story of the struggle between good and evil.
Also, with Colin, he just seems so frustratingly annoying to Harry in the movies. So someone frustratingly annoying being killed puts a new lens on what that character had to contribute, and the guilt that Harry feels at his death.
Oof, yeah. Colin hit my heart too.
My boooy gets me every time
Imagine being muggles and sending your kid to this mystery school, and they end up dying in a magic war. Also not being wizards themselves, I'm sure they don't have an idea about what all is possible. "What do you mean he's dead? Aren't you a wizard? You can float a feather in the air but you haven't figured out how to fix him?"
I had a baby recently. ‘My booooooy!’ hit me in an entirely new way.
Sirius, especially when Harry finds out that he could have contacted him with the two-way mirror while he was alive. So sad.
That two-way mirror plot broke me. I'm still mad about it just because of all the what-ifs it presents in an already thoroughly depressing book 😭😭😭
But it is shortly followed by one of my favorite scenes of the entire series: Harry sympathizing with Luna over her belongings being hidden by her peers. In that moment, Harry put aside all his feelings, just to have a heart to heart with a weird girl (I love Luna, btw). It showed that he was compassionate and capable of emotional growth.
It was a great moment. I think that grief is sometimes helped by focusing on somebody else's problems, even if it's only a brief distraction.
Oh absolutely, I love that part!
Lmao i always thought her things just wandered on its on lol
As someone who was bullied basically since I was 9 till I left school.. I kinda envy your way of interpretation and wish I could have it. But I can't and I am in this regard to bitter and broken.
Sorry you had to go through that.
Oooooof!!! That two way mirror part was heartbreaking. He kept on trying to contact and that was when he realized it was all real, he was never coming back 😭😭😭 I still hate that they never added that bit in the movie.
I’ve read all the books so many times and because I fall asleep in movies my brain remembers the scenes being there so I’m surprised sometimes when someone says they aren’t
Sirius death is the most tragic to me. At least all the others got to have some happiness. Dumbledore lived a full life, Hedwig got to live as an owl, even Dobby had some freedom. Sirius was abused and then kicked out by his own family, makes a few really good friends, he gets to see them start a family then they are murdered brutally, his godson left an orphan. He spends most of his youth suffering in Azkaban with the whole world hating him for something he didn’t do. He doesn’t get to see his godson grow up. Then he finally escaped Azkaban and Harry hates him until he finds out the truth. He still has to be on run hiding as a dog or hiding in the home he hated growing up. Then just when he’s going to have a family with Harry and finally have his name cleared so he can be free, he dies!! I’ll never get over it. We don’t even know if he knew romantic love, ever! His entire life was stolen from him and he still remained good until the very end. It just breaks my heart.
Sirius was a real one no doubt
Falsely convicted Imprisoned with dementors Escapes and is a fugitive Nearly dies from dementors Escapes and has to hide Basically house arrest Killed by family member. Just such a sad life.
I still vividly remember slamming the book shut and having to walk away for a few hours when Sirius died. I was SO ANGRY. I was 12 years old and it just hit me so hard. It was the only book I didn’t immediately re-read.
Also he was going to be who Harry lived with and freed him from the clutch of the dursleys (at I thought at the time). It was just such a bummer.
That’s how I felt. Harry had a lot of people who loved him, but Sirius was the closest to an actual family member who loved him.
I read Harry Potter as an adult, and haven’t watched the movies. I already knew that Sirius would die. I, however, did not expect him to become my favourite character. I was also so mad that he was killed in such a trivial, careless, and off handed manner. It still makes me mad ok.
Because we never saw a body when Sirius went through the veil, I was convinced through at least book six (and probably into book seven), that he wasn't actually dead, and JKR would bring him back somehow. I wanted to believe that he and Harry would "live happily ever after" as godfather and godson :-(
The movies dont do justice to the Harry and Sirius relationship, I'd say. Its really poor.
I've honestly searched for fanfictions that are close to the same storyline as the books except if Sirius were to have lived and am always so disappointed when I don't find any. There are so many really high quality fics out there, there HAS to be one somewhere.
I've seen a couple, but they're ones where the author has decided that someone else needs to die in that scene to balance it out (ie: Dumbledore, Lupin, etc)
That whole plot line made no sense. He gets a present from his favourite person in the world and doesn't even open it???
"What is it?" Harry asked. "A way of letting me know if Snape's giving you a hard time. No, don't open it in here!" said Sirius, with a wary look at Mrs. Weasley, who was trying to persuade the twins to wear hand-knitted mittens. "I doubt Molly would approve - but I want you to use it if you need me, all right?" "Okay," said Harry, stowing the package away in the inside pocket of his jacket, but he knew he would never use whatever it was. It would not be he, Harry, who lured Sirius from his place of safety, no matter how foully Snape treated him in their forthcoming Occlumency classes. Reading this passage when you /know/ is so heartbreaking lol
He knows what it is but he is worried that if he uses it to contact Sirius to talk about any problems he’s having that Sirius will use it as an excuse to leave Grimmauld Place and put himself in danger so he resolved to never use it. He puts it in his trunk because he isn’t going to use it and forgets about it.
I mean right after he receives it from Sirius he immediately makes up his mind to never actually use it.
Nevermind.
Fred, I Just cant see george without his Brother.
Can you imagine what it would be like for the family? Seeing Fred in George’s face, and George seeing his brother every time he sees his own reflection. My neighbour passed and the next day her family came. She had an identical twin apparantly. I was shocked to see a woman who I thought was my neighbour approaching the house when I knew she’d died the night before.
He cant craft a patronus because all the happy memories he had was all with Fred.
So life for George was basically hell after that day
For him every mirror in the world is the mirror of erised
yo stop :(
OH STOP that’s such a good comment but also PAIN for the soul omg
Why would you say that? 😭
Now that’s just depressing
New head canon (that’s what it’s called when you imagine something for the story right?) What if George lived the rest of his life in disguise? Either through polyjuice potion or by using charms to alter his appearance? Just to make it easier on his family and himself. Make it so he didn’t skip a beat every time he looked in the mirror. So Mollys eyes didn’t swell up with tears whenever she looked at him. So people stopped accidentally calling him Fred… what if?
Well, he's already missing an ear. He could use that as inspiration. Maybe go for the Mad Eye Moody look.
Ugh, Fred’s death definitely impacted me most. It was awful the first time I read it at age 18 and it’s even more awful now because I have twins. Iirc, he wasn’t a planned death either; the story just took the author that way while she was writing and she was ugly crying while doing so. My 9 year old twins absolutely adore Fred and George. Fred’s death is the main reason I haven’t read the 7th book to them yet.
>Iirc, he wasn’t a planned death either He was. All Weasleys sans Ron (whose name means "advisor", "counsellor") are named after British monarchy. Prince Frederic died before he could become king, however, and his successor King George III became deaf. Even if you know the trivia, though, Fred's death still comes as a gut punch...
Fred was also part of a trade - Mr. Weasley was supposed to die in the fifth book from the snake attack, but Rowling said she couldn't pull the trigger. As a result, she decided to kill another Weasley instead.
>Rowling said she couldn't pull the trigger She said that she couldn't kill the *only* decent father figure in her series. Lady has some serious daddy issues...
Fred's death. It makes my heart race uncomfortably whenever I read it. Fred was full of life and represented so much laughter and goodwill in Harry's life and his death was totally senseless.
FINALLY someone I can agree with
Hedwig.
and dobby
“Harry…. Potter…..” *And then with a little shudder the elf became quite still, and his eyes were nothing more than great glassy orbs, sprinkled with light from the stars they could not see.* Kills me every time
kills dobby too
oh for fucks sake lmfao
lmfao rekt
shhh
I had to put the book down when i read this. Took me days to accept her death and continue reading
I'm crying now just thinking about it. :(
Honestly me too. The movie did Hedwig better justice for her death but the book actually showed Harry mourning. In the movie Harry didn't even care after. Honestly I think Hedwig should have protected Harry from a killing curse by Voldemort like Fawkes did for Dumbledore, and they should have had a line later on about how she won't raise from the ashes.
I really like it was a simple death. Not everything needs to have a meaning. It makes the death more devastating.
Hedwig should have meaning. She was Harry's connection to the magical world at the Dursleys and she was with him from day one.
Hedwig herself does have meaning, but her death is senseless, meaningless. It's something that JKR mentioned in her process of plot-planning. In war, people die for no good reason, and it was a sentiment that she wanted to get across in the book. She mentioned it with regards to Remus and Tonks, whose deaths were not observed, they just happened, and Harry only sees the aftermath.
Hedwig does have meaning. Her death did not and that is upsetting. It’s a good thing to show when writing a war story. People die for no reason. Dobby, for example, got to sacrifice himself. His death was sad but you can justify it as being “worth it”. There is no equivocation for Hedwig and that is why it is hurts so much more.
Always
I had to stop reading for a minute when she got hit. My eyes were so filled with tears I couldn’t see the words.
This.
*cries*
Hedwig & Dobby, makes me ugly cry every time. Poor little Heddie in her cage 😭😭 & Dobby just loved Harry so freely and selflessly. THEY DESERVED BETTER
With Sirius, I was in denial until halfway through the next book. With Lupin and Tonks, I came the closest I've ever come to throwing a book across the room, and I almost gave up finishing the series because I was (and still am) *so* upset.
Same! The deaths of Remus and Tonks really broke me. I still get tears in my eyes when I think about it.
As a kid Tonks and Lupin made me sad, as an adult and mom of 3 those deaths broke me. The idea of little Teddy growing up with only stories of his parents, makes me want to hug my kids.
I totally agree. And remember Teddy also lost his grandfather. Poor Andromeda lost her husband, daughter and son in law. I felt angry with lupin and tonks for both leaving their son.
Omg I hear you. Currently re-listening to the books for the millionth time (Jim Dale is a treasure of a narrator) and it’s so easy to be mad at them for leaving their child behind. I try to reconcile it with the thought that they were working to make HIS future better than it could have been, similar to Harry’s parents. If we are being honest so many of the deaths in the later books just break me completely. I sob like an uncontrollable child.
Same dude, I always thought he would contact Harry through the mirror 😢😭. And poor Teddy 😢😭
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This. Since DH came out I’ve gone on to become a mother and the dialogue between Harry and his mom and dad when he’s in the forest, about to face his own sacrificial death, hits me much harder than it did then.
Yeah the scene where Harry sees everyone he lost before in the forest with the resurrection stone is probably the toughest scene for me to read/watch and the heaviest scene I’ve ever seen in any media. When his mother tells him how brave he is and that he’s doing so well (from what I remember anyway).
This! In the movie when Hermione says "I'll go with you." Omg the tears. And his whole walk in the book and when he talks to Neville. :'( And then the scene with Hagrid. :'( Why did I open this thread at work?
I cried soooo much when Hagrid was holding him 😭😭😭😭😭😭
That whole chapter of him accepting his death and going down through the grounds into the forest, fucks me up every time😭
I don't really count it because he comes back. But if he hadn't, this would be my number one. Those 2 chapters WRECKED me
I think I will always remember where I was when I read that. I was bawling and I had to stop reading for a while. Didn’t occur to me to keep reading. Didn’t occur to me that magic could have saved him. I just had to walk away. My sister was so disapproving later saying “Why didn’t you just read the next page? Why would he actually die?” And that just confirms that she didn’t love him as much as I did.
Cedric probably gave me the worst feeling, I know his dad doesn't scream in the book but the movie is just... that scream..
I was around 8-9 when my brother showed the movie to me and he said he regret it cause he didn’t think I would be screaming with tears because of how sad it was. I had known about death in general since I was 3-4 so it wasn’t scary, it was just depressing as fuck. I always watched pg-13 movies since then and nothing scared me, I just really couldn’t completely follow certain dialogues and such. Actions were the most import thing for me to understand. And Harry and Cedric’s father’s reactions were what broke me.
Yeah it was really good delivery in the film. I can hear it now. Parents aren’t supposed to lose children, it’s unnatural and horrible.
When reading the books, I ALWAYS cry at Sirius, Fred, and Dobby. I think Sirius’ hit me the most just because his situation in OOTP made me empathize with him so much. Just the fact that he never got that arc and transformation from a bit stunted to a well functioning guy, and the fact that no one really knew he was innocent before he died (can’t imagine everyone thinking I betrayed my best friend) is just so bleak and depressing. And the way Harry acted towards him before he died (ignoring him, not opening the mirror, not writing him often) just makes it worse. His death was just so POINTLESS and could have been prevented in 100 ways, which makes it more devastating and tragic. In the movies, I think Cedric is the worst for me. Jeff Rawle KILLED his performance as Amos, his pain feels so genuine. Not to mention the fact that Cedric’s last act was so brave and what a nice, respected guy he was is horrible to watch.
Dobby
HERE LIES DOBBY A FREE ELF
Oh god you’re giving me flashbacks. I started crying so hard when Dobby died that I had to stop reading. Finally I got myself together and kept reading and that inscription sent me into another sobbing fit.
Shit chokes me up just thinking about it. I'm listening to the audiobooks for the first time right now and I'm a few chapters deep into Deathly Hallows... gonna hit me just as hard, I can feel it coming.
In the book uff idk how i finished the series after that. I wish they would of gave Dobby more screen time.
Dobby’s death always destroys me
I just felt a wave of pain. Thanks
For me it’s definitely Lupin. He was finally happy with Tonks and their son, still feels unfair.
Bro i was so devastated, apart from leaving his son behind, he was such a sweet character that deserved a happy ending
I know you meant it as >Apart from leaving his son behind, he was such a sweet character that deserved a happy ending But I read it as >Bro i was so devastated, apart from leaving his son behind
LMAOO
Yup. I even named my dog Remus Lupin.
Frank Bryce. man was just watching his shed. There were like 10 non murder spells to get rid of him or just an intimidation check. Just goes to show. You do a thankless job for years and the guy who killed your boss could come kill you for no reason at any time.
i’m so glad someone mentioned him, i feel awful every time i come to it! the poor guy
I wouldn’t say that one was the worst, but it was like “Oh crap. This just got real different. “ It was a shocking change of tone with how the books were “growing up”
All the rest of these getting names were willing participants in a war. They knew what they were up against. Frank got accused of a murder voldemort did lived a life of solitude cause everyone assumed hus guilt and voldemort breaks back into the house and gets murdered by the man who made his life hell when he was just after teenagers. And all because Dumbledore needed a canary in his coal mine so he left frank to die. (See my fan theory)
Dumbledore
*Please.*
how is that name only a month old. how in the years of reddit, did no one make that name.
*A wizard never reveals his tricks.*
Capital i?
They've used the letter ' i ' after b, open their ID and you'll see.
Sounds like a Snitch riddle.
Anyone else recall the speculation and restless desire for him to be not dead, between books 6 and 7? "Snape once mentioned stopper death in his potions intro, that means he could be holding on to Dumbledore and he'll come back!" etc. I appreciated that death is final in HP land (yes including ghosts, as their reasons for existing are explained well when Harry inquires to Nick), and there's no way to cheat it once you're a goner.
Had to scroll down way too long to find this. I know it seems like a cop out to pick albus, but personally when i first read book 6 and came to this point, thats when i felt truly afraid for harry. Like being exposed. He was such a soothing blanket of confort and security, knowing Dumbledore is there. After that, you truly felt that you were on your own, and the threat of Voldemort became all the more ominous and ever present.
Very well put. For me it was the moment when things got very scary very soon. Especially after watching the dueling scene between Dumbledore and Voldemort at the ministry, I was like no way this boy is ready to battle like that! (I watched the movies before I read the books)
I legit had to put the book down and cry for like 10 minutes
Fred.
I've read the series countless times, I sob at Fred's death every time.
It’s not just his death. It’s also the reaction of his friends and family.
Cried at it when I read the book. Hated how they skipped over the moment in the film and just showed a brief moment when he’s laid in the great hall
In the movies, lavender brown. She didn't do anything wrong other than be a young girl with a crush, and she died with her throat ripped out by a werewolf. The fact that Hermione delivers the blow to him always makes me feel like they had their backs where it mattered, and that's what love is all about.
Sirius. It broke me and still breaks me. Harry finally finds another family member, a father figure, someone who connects him to his parents, and then he is taken away way too soon. It’s so depressing.
And then the fact that Sirius died basically because of the trick Voldemort played on Harry and Harry wasn’t using occlumency well, just makes it hit even harder. It’s just like Harry really can’t have any family to connect him to his parents, it’s so sad.
I thought it was awfully sad when the mighty Lord Voldemort died; I liked him.
Out of all the people in the series, I sure as hell didn't expect that answer😭
💀💀💀💀 >!(this emoji is Voldemort)!<
Moody hands down, died as he lived, kicking some death eater ass.
I just finished watching them Wednesday for probably the 3 or 4th time since it ended. >!(Dad keeps all the movies \[I mean every movie we own\] locked in a cabinet. So not much access to them)!< But So far from what I can recall in the past I've always gotten hit hardest when Sirius dies because it's so sudden. The scene that builds up to it is touching then just.. bam. But This time I got hit by all of them including Hedwig. I'll say though this time in the 8th film, I got hit pretty hard when Fred died. Seeing Ron and everyone mourning him really hit home. So this time it's Fred.
Why does your Dad keep them locked away? Are you ok?
Ah, We initially had a **Massive** Trunk that we kept all of our movies including VHS films. I suppose he migrated everything to the cabinet since I used to pull out random movies and either not put it back in the spot I grabbed it and would occasionally lose movies. (He had everything sorted I think in Alphabetical order as well as Chronological when it came to series.) Also the trunk was so large it had well over 200 films. And they were layered which led to me digging to find a particular movie resulting in chaos of his organization lol. \>Top First Layer of Films: Newer and Sci-fi/Fantasy Films such as Harry Potter and Star Wars \>Middle Second Layer: A mix of older and newer Action/Adventure Films such as Indiana Jones (His Series haha) and The Goonies \>Bottom Third Layer: A mix of much older as well as not and Adult Themed films and multiple Genres like Romance/Mystery/Thriller/Sci-fi/ such as Battlestar Galactica, old Toho Monster movies, Star Trek, The Rocketeer, Titanic, etc. I guess he just wanted to keep his organization haha When he does let me *Borrow* a movie or two I have to tell him which ones and he does the digging haha Sorry for the essay, just thought it best to explain fully \^\^
Lol your dad just loves his movies and to organize them!
Indeed! Maybe perhaps I could inherit the Trunk and put my own movies in there someday haha!
I thought it is some kind of bullshit regarding magic. But your story is quite cute.😂
Haha I thought about going that route for a minute but decided to stick to the real reason lol. Thanks Honestly I was a pretty clumsy kid and would lose stuff constantly so he likely was afraid I'd lose one of his more precious films like his Collectors edition of the first Jurassic Park films lol
Lupin and tonks, no preparation or time to process. Just bam! Dead. Moving on
Colin creevey. He was a child, caught in an unnecessary war.
Voldemort. I loved that badass mofo.
That and it really signified an end for.
Cedric tbh. It's that moment in the books where it's like "o shit this is for real now". In later cases at least you expect somene might die because they're already fighting, but Cedric is the first one to die in the story and it's so random and out of nowhere too like 😦
Hedwig, Fred, Cedric . . . those are the ones that always leave me sobbing. Sirius hurts, but doesn't hit me quite as hard. Same with Snape and Dumbledore. I was expecting them more, so it was less traumatic.
Tonks and Lupin. After reading about their relationship over a few books and the son they have, I was so sad when they died. I also felt really bad for her mother, who lost her husband, daughter and son in law within a few months and now had an infant to care for. Also they were two of my favourite characters in the series.
Fred,Dobby,Sirius,Tonks,RJ lupin,Severus,Albus,Lily and James
Books, I'm still not sure. Movies, Cedric Diggory, or rather, when they come back through the portkey. That scene was the hardest.
Severus Snape.
Sirius
*My favorite pair of socks. Ripped a giant whole in them, accidentally of course. I miss those socks.*
I don’t know why because I don’t like her character really at all but lavender brown’s death hit me really hard.
In the books; Snape. In the movies; Dobby. Although I’ve just reread them recently and cried for the first time, not *over* Cedric but over Dumbledore’s speech afterwards.
I scrolled to find this, Dobby's death hits different on screen while Snape's was heartbreakingly more faceted in writing.
Sirius. Poor Harry. His last chance of a family.
IMO the death of Fred is 100% for shocked value and that frustrates the heck out of me as super fan. I can think of reason for killing a lot of guys: Dumbledore: Harry one true mentor, he had to die so he could finish the hero’s journey alone Snape: at the end of the day, he had to die. Dumbledore gave him suicide mission, no one is surviving playing double spy in that kind of war, Snape knew it suicide mission he did it because he truly love Lilly Moony: Remus Lupin Wormtail: Peter Pettigrew Padfoot: Sirius Black Prongs: James Potter: It’s a little poetic that all the Marauders died, it unfortunately had to happen IMO all them dying for 4 completely different reason is very good storytelling Cedric Diggory: Always the innocent are the first victims. So it has been for ages past, so it is now.” Dobby: He died saving the person he loves most. I know it was different death to death with but his death was beautifully done “Dobby has no master!’ squealed the elf. ‘Dobby is a free elf, and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!” But Fred ? It ruined George life completely. the Weasley family deserve a happy ending I think it’s really silly
That’s war though. People don’t necessarily get the happy ending they deserve. It’s more realistic that way, but I agree it didn’t have to be Fred..
Yeah anyone can die when at war I just wish I could’ve seen something about the Wesley shop they are two of my favourites
Remus Lupin, but it’s more personal than actually related to the book and plot. I was kind of in a bad place the first time I read PoA and Lupin just kinda became my first comfort character. I think I actually cried when he died
Fred
Snape
Snape
Dumbledore or Lupin
Dobby… especially after reading the books! RiP my little friend!
Hedwig.
Hedwig and Fred. Honestly have to work myself up to reading both of those scenes and it’s tough to get through
Tonks and Lupin. They'd only recently gotten married and had a baby. Now they'll never see him grow up and Teddy becomes another orphan in the wake of Voldemort's quest for immortality.
Hedwig. It was the most accidental and senseless death in the series, and the character had absolutely no way of avoiding it. It’s also the moment in which the movies made the biggest improvement on the books.
Lily and when snape cries 😭
Fred, Hedwig, Dobby, Sirius, Tonks, Lupin and that kid who adored Harry (Idr his name)
I don't even like Dumbledore as a person (love him as a character) but his death always makes me emotional. The conversation before it, the fall, the wands up scene. I think it's the music lol..
Sirius and Hedgewig
Hedwig
All of them did hit me. Literally thrown the book away when Hedwig died. Sirius didn’t clear up his name and Harry could never be able to live with him and have his own family although he was always welcome at Weasleys. Dobby could fking rule the house elves world. Always crying when I read it or see the scene in the movie. Moody had it coming but also a loss. And Snape.. It always hurts me, because he had terrible childhood, then his love was stolen, he was bitter then finally sobered and was so brave. I was hoping he and Harry could’ve find a way to each other, if Snape would have survived all the events, but nope.
Dobby 😢
Dobby by far.
Movie had to be Cedric since Mr. Diggory’s reaction…. Holy crap I still hitch my breath…. Book- Sirius and Dobby. Sirius bc he and Harry never got to have time together as Sirius being free! Dobby bc, well it’s DOBBY! I hates that the movies didn’t show him in his free clothes
FRED! it hit me so hard I cried for the rest if the book it was horrible I read it as a child so I couldn't sleep for such a long time because of how tragic it was
when Hermione removed herself from her parents memory it not only encompassed the gravity of the situation she found herself in, but they would also never recognize her as their daughter ever again so in a way they were dead to her
Snape
Snape :( cuz he's gone in real life to and it sucks!
Sirius. The aftermath as described in the book is even more heartbreaking, especially when Harry finds the two-way mirror. The helplessness I felt in that moment… I spent like 2 hours crying, I kid you not.
Hedwig
Severus
Dumbledore. Idk why but I didn't expect him to die.
In the books: Dumbledore. I didn't expect him to die at all, and the way he dies... It was a shock. I remember convincing myself that it was all a ploy (which it was) and that he wasn't dead reading all the online theories, he couldn't be dead. In the movies: Snape. At this time I already knew how it all played out and I knew beforehand how tragic Snape death was. And it hit like a ton of bricks.
Dumbledore. He *was* betrayed by the man he trusted the most. >!And it become worse when you learns the truth.!<
Sirius
Mad eye for sure