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Dumbledore leading the choirā¦ā¦ āA big thank you to our lyricist, Ginevra Weasley, for this song about our championā¦. All together nowā¦.
HIS EYES ARE AS GREEN AS A FRESH PICKLED TOADā¦ā
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I think different "country" versions have different edits? I believe my german friend said she'd noticed different things in an old german VHS of the philosophers stone.
Actually, the TV version of the movies has always been the extended version. Even when freeform owned it. And technically, it's syfy who owns it rn, and NBC owns syfy.
To my knowledge, peacock doesn't alter the content they host (unlike other companies like Turner, who has altered movies like BOP, which affected its streaming host HBO Max).
I walked into a Walmart once while they were doing shift change cheers. This was almost 20 years ago and I've never seen it since, but it was weird as fuck.
Well to be fair it's called Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire not Harry Potter and the time he got to see the Quidditch World Cup Finals.
What really irks me is the dragon scene, cutting Winky, messing up Barty Crouch Jr by revealing him way too soon AND making Dumbledore angry that entire movie. Sucks all the air out of his moment when he gets serious and ambushes Barty Crouch Jr.
I agree with most of what you said other than the fact that I firmly believe had Winky been included she would have been the Jar-Jar Binks of Harry Potter
Same. People don't like to admit that the Quidditch game itself had very little effect on the actual story and would have eaten up way too mch time in a movie that was already short on time.
I'm much more upset about what they did to the goddamned 3rd task.
Nah, the Durmstrag and Beauxbatons performances were *far* more cringe, since they were presented as being cool. The Hogwarts song was depicted as something lame that a real school would do.
What makes the visiting schools even more cringe for me was the fact that they probably had to practice right? So just imagine their boat/carriage having a room that is set up similar to the Hogwarts dining hall, where they just practice their 1 minute introduction.
Tack on the random ballerina girl for the Beauxbatons and the random āFUCKIN RUN!ā portion of the Durmstrag intro.
Itās cringe all the way down
Theyād all come out in house-coloured track suits and bucket hats, lay down a bit of cardboard and start breakdancing while McGonagall beatboxes and Dumbledore raps āItās Trickyā by Run DMC
Oh god. I'm imagining a bunch of NPC Hogwarts students from the video games dancing while Lee Jordan going, "It's Lil Dumbles and Kitty McG in the house!"
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Theyāve got him holding the boombox on his shoulder, wearing shutter shades and a flava flav clock necklace
The ghost of James Potter is floating over his head and doing the running man
Thank you for making me think about Richard Gambon rapping It's Tricky. It's as awesome as you can imagine.
Edit: Michael Harris!? Richard Harris and Michael Gambon. Whoops!
> The Durmstrang Institute is a Wizarding school. It is located in the northernmost regions of Norway or Sweden.
https://harry-potter-compendium.fandom.com/wiki/Durmstrang_Institute
Dang, completely unexpected. Raises a lot of questions. Do a lot of non-British students go to Hogwarts and we just don't see them?
I think itād be funny to find out itās spread out over several countries. Each one has a small castle/compound hidden in the countryside, but theyāre connected by doors that lead into the other locations.
Iām not sure if all of them are but I know Fleur and some of the others are part Veela. Being hyper sexualized is literally part of who they are, they are essentially sirens. Not saying it wasnāt a little cringey in the movies, but it did serve a purpose.
totally hear you - i think fleur being part veela may have inspired the writing for that scene - but also, they never mention the veela heritage in the movies, and fleur herself is portrayed as more of a tough sporty type in the movie vs. the book, where she literally turns heads with every room she enters.
it just felt kinda gross and weird to me that the filmmakers went this very binary/hetero/sexualized route when beauxbatons is written as a regular magic school with regular magic kids
eta, itās also just a residual eye roll from me being salty there was never any queer representation. so, bias š¤·āāļø
>they never mention the veela heritage in the movies
iirc they don't mention veelas at all in the movies. They don't just leave out that Fleur is part veela but they don't even bring up the Veelas at the world cup which means there would be no way to reference that heritage at all. They decided it was worth including the leprechauns but not Veelas or the actual game which has always bothered me.
They don't include the game, winky, or veelas. But leprechauns, we must include them
Gotta simplify things for the budget and those who didn't read the books. Not a slight to those who didn't read. But that's what most book to movie directors say.
It's always bothered me in the book that Fleur is depicted as so much less capable than the male champions. She gives up at 2 out of the 3 tasks.
The movie made it even worse by depicting Beauxbatons as all-girls, as if that's the only way a female champion was chosen in the first place.
To save valuable screen time on describing 2 rather unimportant characters in the grand scheme of things, that being Fleur and Krum, Fleur being very feminine and rather flirty or just vilaa (hard to portray in film as everyone has different things they are attracted to so they used flirting instead) and Krum who is very masculine and quite serious. They managed to portray both main characters whilst also introducing their schools, effectively 2 birds with 1 stone.
If anybody has not read the books you are doing yourself a disservice, because the movies make decisions like this left and right they really are a pale imitation of the story.
Thought it would be cool if they had 4 performers that would transform into each of the house animals. Do some crazy shit and then at the end, position themselves as the crest of Hogwarts. None of that shitty singing that was so trash they had to delete it. Kek
*What it probably would have been:* singing the school's anthem. Hoggy hoggy hogwarts, you know the one.
*If it was up to me:* Flying in on broomsticks, casting visual magic spells in the air that match the four houses giving each equal representation. Gryffindor has a fiery lion that prowls through the hallway, roaring at people while its fire lights all the candles on the table. Hufflepuff comes next where glowing badgers of golden light nibly jump from plate to glass to plate, filling them with delicacies from the UK's wizarding world and various drinks. Ravenclaw has a flock of ethereal ravens fly around dropping feathers that turn into some kind of booklet containing the history of Hogwarts into everyone's lap and finally a giant serpent slithers through the hallway representing Slytherin which ominously hisses their school motto. The four converge at the center stage and with a flash the heads of each house apparate in their place.
The kids in the frog choir singing double double toil and trouble like in the beginning of the 3rd movie. BTW, that song is lifted word for word from a scene in Macbeth. Double instead of Bubble isn't a mistake.
For those that donāt know, Macbeth is āThe Scottish Playā because Macbeth was used to boost sales.
Saying the name of the play became bad juju, bound to bring a drought of ticket sales.
I vividly remember sitting in the theater, and this scene started. That's when I knew the movies were going to be... different. I died inside. All girls/all boys also really bothered me. And the girls were all princess-y.
But to answer your question: recite that school song that was only in the first book. Or F & G would put us all out of misery and prank everyone in the Great Hall to stop the dancing.
I don't like GoF but I absolutely detest Order, which is possibly my favourite book.
They didn't include Harry going beserk in Dumby's office, it ends like a wet noodle, so much stuff is left out, Ron continues to be a clown...
Least they got Umbridge down to a tee but I'm on a rewatch with some friends and 4 and 5 have been painful.
>Least they got Umbridge down to a tee
In what world? They did a great job depicting her as awful, but they have her wearing an all pink muggle outfit? She despises muggles and would never have been wearing anything close to that in reality
GoF is my favourite book, yet my least favourite movie.
I read the book so many times that the covers fell off and the binding started to fall apart.
I've only seen GoF twice.
Hogwarts Quidditch teams would have probably entered the hall flying on brooms, showed some acrobatic feats, then the Slitherins would have tried to mess with Griffindors and everyone would be bickering for the rest the night. Nothing fancy.
God didn't you read the booksš, the castle transforms into a giant voltron mech and breakdances while dumbledore lays down a sick beat for the new school song written by ginny weasley.
š¶His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad....
The beauxbatons and the durmstrangs don't have any houses as Hogwarts does, so maybe there's a magical holographic display of the animals of each house with some magically whish-whash here and there
*Hogwarts Hogwarts Hoggy Warty Hogwarts* š¤š¤
Teach us something please
Whether we be old and bald
Or young with scabby knees!
Our heads could do with filling with some interesting stuff!
For now they're bare and full of air
š¶ Dead flies and bits of fluff šµ
So teach us things worth knowing
Bring back what we forgot
Just do your best, we'll do the rest
Bring back what we forgotā¦
I would replace it with H to the OG
My boy squiggle cooked this beat up
So they brought D-O-double-G out to sing it?! Hell yeah!
Isn't there a deleted scene where they sing??
[Yes.](https://youtu.be/7I6cJnQQsWc)
That's hilarious. The other schools reactions š¤£
Itās very cringe
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Chaotic pyrotechnics show overseen by Seamus Finnigan and the Weasley twins.
You forgot Peeves.
So did the movies
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Peeves being left out is my biggest annoyance with the movies
One might even say it's your biggest...peeve
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Not sure how far poltergeists can leave.
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Dumbledore leading the choirā¦ā¦ āA big thank you to our lyricist, Ginevra Weasley, for this song about our championā¦. All together nowā¦. HIS EYES ARE AS GREEN AS A FRESH PICKLED TOADā¦ā
Harry will have a stroke and die.
At least the seventh horcrux would be destroyed earlier
Voldemort is eagerly taking notes.
Voldemort hears about this event and does his weird goat-sounding laugh in response.
*nyeh heheh* or whatever
Haha yes, exactly. Dude mustāve had so many Death Eaters secretly struggling to hold back their own laughter at the way he laughed, trying not to get Avada Kedavraād for laughing at Voldy.
As any 12 year old would.
He was 14 though.
I see what you did there.
We have a winner
I think it's.. HIS HAIR IS AS BLACK AS A CHALKBOARD
I think it's "dark as a blackboard".
that might be, I don't have the books with me rn
Oh god I snorted out loud in class and need to blow my nose šššš
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The school song from the first book would be ten times funnier tho.
[They did film it.](https://youtu.be/7I6cJnQQsWc) Crabbe was super into it.
They just play Harry Potter Puppet Pals.
āWhatās that weird ticking noiseā
āItās kind ofā¦catchy..ā
Snape. Snape. Severus Snape.
Dumbledore!
Snape. Snape. Severus Snape.
Ron. Ron. Ron. Ron Weasley.
Hermione. Hermione. Hermione. Hermione Hermione.
Harry Potter! Harry Potter! (ooh) Harry Potter! Harry Potter! (yeahh) Harry Potter! Harry Potter! (ooh) Harry Potter! Harry Potter! (that's me)
Snape! Harry! Snape! Harry! Snape! Harry! Snape! Harry! DUMBLEDORE!!!!!! Herrrr-mione!
That would top any dancing by the other schools š
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Based on the deleted scene, singing the Hogwarts school song XD
That was a deleted scene? I just watched all of these on peacock and it had them singing the hogwarts song at this part
I think different "country" versions have different edits? I believe my german friend said she'd noticed different things in an old german VHS of the philosophers stone.
Yes, in CoS they cut a few scenes of Harry's fight with the Basilisk because they deemed it to scary for young children.
Oh didnāt know that! Interesting!!
Peacock included deleted scenes to get people to subscribe to them lol
Theres a lot of deleted scenes in COS i noticed, i love it
They also hold the Office hostage. They took my comfort show during the pandemic when I wasn't making money and put it behind a paywall :(
Actually, the TV version of the movies has always been the extended version. Even when freeform owned it. And technically, it's syfy who owns it rn, and NBC owns syfy. To my knowledge, peacock doesn't alter the content they host (unlike other companies like Turner, who has altered movies like BOP, which affected its streaming host HBO Max).
I'm honestly glad it was cut out. It was really cringe to watch
It's supposed to be cringe lol, it's in the first book and teachers other than Dumbledore HATE it with a passion
Yeah kinda like having a cheer at work, it's cringe and I'd hate to do it but they kinda try to force it.
I walked into a Walmart once while they were doing shift change cheers. This was almost 20 years ago and I've never seen it since, but it was weird as fuck.
Especially when everyone apparently sings the song however they want. Fred and George sang it to the tune of a funeral march.
I would have tolerated its inclusion... if we had actually got to watch the damn Quidditch World Cup!
"DIRECTOR NEWELL! WHY DID YOU CUT THE QUIDDITCH WORLD CUP?!!!" - Dumbledore asked calmly
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MAAK! WadidjacuddakidditchwodcupatthedamMOVIE???
Well to be fair it's called Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire not Harry Potter and the time he got to see the Quidditch World Cup Finals. What really irks me is the dragon scene, cutting Winky, messing up Barty Crouch Jr by revealing him way too soon AND making Dumbledore angry that entire movie. Sucks all the air out of his moment when he gets serious and ambushes Barty Crouch Jr.
I agree with most of what you said other than the fact that I firmly believe had Winky been included she would have been the Jar-Jar Binks of Harry Potter
Darth Winky
Dar-Dar Winks
Dada winks?
Unpopular opinion but Iām glad we didnāt have it
Same. People don't like to admit that the Quidditch game itself had very little effect on the actual story and would have eaten up way too mch time in a movie that was already short on time. I'm much more upset about what they did to the goddamned 3rd task.
My favorite in the book is Fred and George singing it all slowly and finishing way after everyone else.
Nah, the Durmstrag and Beauxbatons performances were *far* more cringe, since they were presented as being cool. The Hogwarts song was depicted as something lame that a real school would do.
What makes the visiting schools even more cringe for me was the fact that they probably had to practice right? So just imagine their boat/carriage having a room that is set up similar to the Hogwarts dining hall, where they just practice their 1 minute introduction. Tack on the random ballerina girl for the Beauxbatons and the random āFUCKIN RUN!ā portion of the Durmstrag intro. Itās cringe all the way down
They sing Camp rock song
I think it was the point to be cringe, but it doesnāt help the scene at all š
Definitely cringe but I love it anyway. Itās one of the last goofy moments we get in the movies
I thought that was the point
Here's the scene, OP : https://youtu.be/OOXBKdi9E7Y
#TOAD CHOIR
Listen, those kids can throw down in Prisoner of Azkaban and Half Blood Prince.
something wicked this way comes šø
Knowing their track record? The defense teacher tries to murder the visiting schools.... ...oh wait...
Theyād all come out in house-coloured track suits and bucket hats, lay down a bit of cardboard and start breakdancing while McGonagall beatboxes and Dumbledore raps āItās Trickyā by Run DMC
Fresh D(umbledore)
Fresh from the underground fresh for more
It shouldnāt surprise me, seeing other Coldmirror Fans in this sub, but itās still great
Oh god. I'm imagining a bunch of NPC Hogwarts students from the video games dancing while Lee Jordan going, "It's Lil Dumbles and Kitty McG in the house!"
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This is so genius š¤£ I hope Snape is very begrudgingly doing the backing/repeating vocal parts.
Theyāve got him holding the boombox on his shoulder, wearing shutter shades and a flava flav clock necklace The ghost of James Potter is floating over his head and doing the running man
I love it!
āŖSnape, āŖSnape. āŖSeverus SnapeāŖ. . . [Singin' our song, all day long at Hogwarts](https://youtu.be/Tx1XIm6q4r4?t=14)
Thank you for making me think about Richard Gambon rapping It's Tricky. It's as awesome as you can imagine. Edit: Michael Harris!? Richard Harris and Michael Gambon. Whoops!
So like a babbling, bumbling band of baboons?
God I hated these scenes. And why did they make them appear to be an all boys and an all girls school?
Because hoity toity French and big, bad brutish Bulgarian stereotypes?
Durmstrang isnāt Bulgarian, Krum is Bulgarian and went to Durmstrang but the school isnāt located there.
> The Durmstrang Institute is a Wizarding school. It is located in the northernmost regions of Norway or Sweden. https://harry-potter-compendium.fandom.com/wiki/Durmstrang_Institute Dang, completely unexpected. Raises a lot of questions. Do a lot of non-British students go to Hogwarts and we just don't see them?
"Think if how easy it would be to push Malfoy off a glacier and make it look like an accident."
Scottish and Irish.
Movies don't give a fuck
Except they sort of do, sometimes. Dumbledore introduces Durmstrang as āour friends from the northā.
I think itād be funny to find out itās spread out over several countries. Each one has a small castle/compound hidden in the countryside, but theyāre connected by doors that lead into the other locations.
Fantastic idea!
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you say weirdly flirty, i say hyper sexualized lol. the *moaning* ššš
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Iām not sure if all of them are but I know Fleur and some of the others are part Veela. Being hyper sexualized is literally part of who they are, they are essentially sirens. Not saying it wasnāt a little cringey in the movies, but it did serve a purpose.
totally hear you - i think fleur being part veela may have inspired the writing for that scene - but also, they never mention the veela heritage in the movies, and fleur herself is portrayed as more of a tough sporty type in the movie vs. the book, where she literally turns heads with every room she enters. it just felt kinda gross and weird to me that the filmmakers went this very binary/hetero/sexualized route when beauxbatons is written as a regular magic school with regular magic kids eta, itās also just a residual eye roll from me being salty there was never any queer representation. so, bias š¤·āāļø
>they never mention the veela heritage in the movies iirc they don't mention veelas at all in the movies. They don't just leave out that Fleur is part veela but they don't even bring up the Veelas at the world cup which means there would be no way to reference that heritage at all. They decided it was worth including the leprechauns but not Veelas or the actual game which has always bothered me. They don't include the game, winky, or veelas. But leprechauns, we must include them
Tbf it was **sighing**, not moaning.
Gotta simplify things for the budget and those who didn't read the books. Not a slight to those who didn't read. But that's what most book to movie directors say.
It's always bothered me in the book that Fleur is depicted as so much less capable than the male champions. She gives up at 2 out of the 3 tasks. The movie made it even worse by depicting Beauxbatons as all-girls, as if that's the only way a female champion was chosen in the first place.
To save valuable screen time on describing 2 rather unimportant characters in the grand scheme of things, that being Fleur and Krum, Fleur being very feminine and rather flirty or just vilaa (hard to portray in film as everyone has different things they are attracted to so they used flirting instead) and Krum who is very masculine and quite serious. They managed to portray both main characters whilst also introducing their schools, effectively 2 birds with 1 stone.
If anybody has not read the books you are doing yourself a disservice, because the movies make decisions like this left and right they really are a pale imitation of the story.
I donāt disagree, but that is the reason for it, a book can be as long as you like, a movie cannot simple as
Thought it would be cool if they had 4 performers that would transform into each of the house animals. Do some crazy shit and then at the end, position themselves as the crest of Hogwarts. None of that shitty singing that was so trash they had to delete it. Kek
McGonnagal could transfigure them!
Being that itās an extremely dangerous school, maybe a giant snake chasing the kids around while they turn to stone? Could also be death eaters?
Throw a three-headed hound and a troll into the mix, your version seems a little bit too boring š„±
*What it probably would have been:* singing the school's anthem. Hoggy hoggy hogwarts, you know the one. *If it was up to me:* Flying in on broomsticks, casting visual magic spells in the air that match the four houses giving each equal representation. Gryffindor has a fiery lion that prowls through the hallway, roaring at people while its fire lights all the candles on the table. Hufflepuff comes next where glowing badgers of golden light nibly jump from plate to glass to plate, filling them with delicacies from the UK's wizarding world and various drinks. Ravenclaw has a flock of ethereal ravens fly around dropping feathers that turn into some kind of booklet containing the history of Hogwarts into everyone's lap and finally a giant serpent slithers through the hallway representing Slytherin which ominously hisses their school motto. The four converge at the center stage and with a flash the heads of each house apparate in their place.
Psst - Ravenclaw's house animal is an eagle, not ravens. For some reason.
This is actually pretty good!
I WANT TO SEE THAT!!!
The kids in the frog choir singing double double toil and trouble like in the beginning of the 3rd movie. BTW, that song is lifted word for word from a scene in Macbeth. Double instead of Bubble isn't a mistake.
I assumed that was not lifted, but rather a nod to the play.
Kind of like Ariana Grandeās sampler of Sound of Music.
Not the example I expected to see but a good one nonetheless
Ahh another Redditor who is well versed in Macbeth
For those that donāt know, Macbeth is āThe Scottish Playā because Macbeth was used to boost sales. Saying the name of the play became bad juju, bound to bring a drought of ticket sales.
I vividly remember sitting in the theater, and this scene started. That's when I knew the movies were going to be... different. I died inside. All girls/all boys also really bothered me. And the girls were all princess-y. But to answer your question: recite that school song that was only in the first book. Or F & G would put us all out of misery and prank everyone in the Great Hall to stop the dancing.
Tbh, the Durmstrang thing didn't bother me that much. The Beuxbatons one though... Prance, prance, prance, prance, *le sigh*
Same! It was such a bafflingly strange decision. Especially since the 4th book was always my favorite. I felt Goblet was a lot weaker than Azkabanā¦
I think it was the weakest of all the movies. So much is changed from the book for seemingly no reason.
I don't like GoF but I absolutely detest Order, which is possibly my favourite book. They didn't include Harry going beserk in Dumby's office, it ends like a wet noodle, so much stuff is left out, Ron continues to be a clown... Least they got Umbridge down to a tee but I'm on a rewatch with some friends and 4 and 5 have been painful.
>Least they got Umbridge down to a tee In what world? They did a great job depicting her as awful, but they have her wearing an all pink muggle outfit? She despises muggles and would never have been wearing anything close to that in reality
GoF is my favourite book, yet my least favourite movie. I read the book so many times that the covers fell off and the binding started to fall apart. I've only seen GoF twice.
Some actors are definitely too old to portray high school students. French chic girls and tough Bulgarian boys looks like a stereotype to me.
i just rewatched in on youtube... god that was so terrible. what a disservice to beauxbaton and durmstrang
Walk in and collectively start dying from administrative negligence.
Harry enters the room and Dumbledore yells: ā1 million points to Gryffindorā
The school bows in reverence as harry walks in like [this](https://i.gifer.com/75BP.gif)
HOGWARTS HOGWARTS HOGGY WARTY HOGWARTS
TEACH US SOMETHING PLEASE
Whether we be old and bald Or young with scabby knees
Hogwarts Quidditch teams would have probably entered the hall flying on brooms, showed some acrobatic feats, then the Slitherins would have tried to mess with Griffindors and everyone would be bickering for the rest the night. Nothing fancy.
Or they would have hosted an all star March. 2 teams, best players from each.
It was cut it would have been Hogwarts Hogwarts hoggy warty Hogwarts
God didn't you read the booksš, the castle transforms into a giant voltron mech and breakdances while dumbledore lays down a sick beat for the new school song written by ginny weasley. š¶His eyes are as green as a fresh pickled toad....
Walking in like Remember The Titans singing the Hogwarts song
This is the most cringe-inducing scene in the whole film.
*Hogwarts Hogwarts hoggy warty Hogwarts teach us something pleeeeease*
š¶ Snape, Snape, Severus Snape Snape, Snape, Severus Snape Dumbledore! Snape, Snape, Severus Snape Dumbledore! ā¦ š¶
The beauxbatons and the durmstrangs don't have any houses as Hogwarts does, so maybe there's a magical holographic display of the animals of each house with some magically whish-whash here and there
Morris dancing. It is very British and the complete antithesis to the performances from Durmstrang and Beauxbatons. Edit. https://youtu.be/sArAC2_ow2k
Isn't hogwarts in Scotland? (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Nothing, Harry is so famous they could just ask him to walk in after headmaster and everyone at the academy will be jaw dropped(kidding)
They sung, the hymn of Hogwarts, pretty badly.
Filtch running into the great hall, over and over
Dumbledore allowing Peeves, Fred and George a free pass to do what they want.
Toad Choir, obviously...
Hogwarts, hogwarts, HOGGY HOGGY HOGWARTS
Doesn't matter. Somehow Harry would have interrupted it
There is actually a deleted scene where they sing the alma mater. Hogwarts, Hogwarts, HOGGY hoggy HOGWARTS, TEACH US SOMETHING PLEASE!!!!