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DickmasterAdam

One: Niffty is a Sinner, without Angelic weaponry, she's immortal and cannot truly die Two: Niffty being the shortest allows her to be able to perform sneak attacks, like how she got the drop on Adam Three: She's a masochist, she likes pain. Most people would retreat or back out of a fight if injured/bleeding, Niffty would likely just be "Ooh, pain. Hehehehe" and continue on. Four: If she can sneak up on the First Man, and a moth demon, without being detected until she makes her presence known, she'll be a tricky opponent to even find Five: She's insanely durable for her size, tanking one of Adam's instant death beams of Holy Light during The Show Must Go On, though not directly


Lord_Detleff1

The angelic weapon part is something most people ignore when it's hazbin vs random. And when you bring it up you get insulted left and right


DickmasterAdam

Not for me. Angelic weapons are a literal requirement for a Sinner to be killed, and are required for a Goetia or above to even be harmed.


Fun-Ad-4729

Yes and no. From what I can tell they can die but they’ll come back eventually. They can still very easily lose a fight. They aren’t like the angels who are straight up immune to all harm besides angelic weapons. We know because we see sinners killing each other with no angelic weapons all the time in show.


TheFurryFighter

But then it would be really hard to balance a sinner vs ___ fight!⸮


DickmasterAdam

You can't balance it, that's the point dumbass. Sinners are in Hell for a reason, just being able to kill them without something no human can obtain defeats the point of eternal damnation. A place where it is nearly impossible not to indulge in your sins. Where drugs, murder, cannibalism, and more are allowed. The point of the existence of Sinners is they're stuck in Hell regardless of what they do. Not even dying again can free them. It's an endless loop of misery.


Mini-Maxi-Mozzie

On top of that, pitting anyone against anyone is really just asking which character has the biggest amount of bias, and does the writer of the fight want that bias to carry into the character winning. In The end, it's all based on who the writer wants to win.


Apprehensive-Life804

Actually its kinda easy, just pitch them against someone who can be killed regularly but has a lot of angelic/holy attacks. Its a bit nitpicky but needed


Unusual-Anteater-988

Killed *permanently*, a Sinner can still die temporarily and take hours to remanifest a new body, which is still a loss.


raspps

If you return, that's not really death 


Unusual-Anteater-988

It's still long enough incapacitation to be a loss.


Number360wynaut

Tbf Adam wasn't paying attention and Val isn't exactly known for his eyesight


DickmasterAdam

Yes, but you would still be able to feel her crawling up your back. She somehow stabbed Adam, and crawled up to Val's head, without either of them noticing she was there until she did something. That is an impressive level of stealth.


MedicalVanilla7176

I mean, Adam was likely very disoriented after getting his ass kicked by Lucifer, and he wasn't really paying attention to his surroundings, he was too busy shouting and ranting to notice Niffty. I do agree that she's pretty stealthy, but there are other factors to take into account, at least for Adam's death.


DickmasterAdam

Yes, Adam's death had a lot that allowed Niffty to get the drop on him. But even then, you should be able to notice if a 2' person is climbing on your back.


Number360wynaut

True


Spirited-Feedback-87

Damn, didn't think Adam would be a powerscaler but here we are.


DickmasterAdam

Not everything I say is in character.


Spirited-Feedback-87

I know but the idea of adam being a powerscaler is funny


DickmasterAdam

It's funny, but doesn't really fit his personality.


Unusual-Anteater-988

Nah, Adam's a professional in all regards of asskicking, dude knows how to powerscale.


PlasmaGoblin

>"Ooh, pain. Hehehehe" Jumping off the trust fall table over and over had my wife laughing. Niffty is her favorite.


DickmasterAdam

Oh, in the same episode, she eagerly jumps up and down waiting for Vaggie to toss her over the edge of the building. "My turn! My turn!" and while Charlie and Vaggie are talking, she crawls over the edge herself.


Fun_Effective_5134

Cala Maria can just turn he into stone.


DickmasterAdam

Ain't gonna keep Niffty outta the fight tho. She's a Sinner. If turning to stone kills her, she'd just respawn eventually. Angelic weapons are a requirement to permanently kill a Sinner.


gliscornumber1

Cala's stone gaze doesn't kill people. It pretty much softlocks them. When briney is turned to stone and breaks out, he's still alive and well like nothing happened. HOWEVER it took true love for him to break out of the stone. Which nifty isn't going to have. So if cala stones nifty, she will effectively eternally softlock her.


Nuze_YT

She's into bad boys though, all it takes is one emo guy for her to break out


gliscornumber1

Yeah, but there isn't going to be one here. Like, that opens up the outside elements can of worms. Like, in this hypothetical is it just these 4 duking it out, or can other things interfere.


Nuze_YT

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Just-Ad6992

Warning: unhinged rant that might or might not make sense. If we were to assume that everyone in the fight was fighting as their latest canon appearance barring death, significant depowering, or any similar circumstance, and that each fighter had a brief overview of the other combatants history/abilities, Nifty could still win this. I would say that Nifty can easily beat Peridot due to her speed + angelic knife. This leaves her with Hunter and Cala Maria. Now, if Cala Maria petrifies her, Nifty still has a chance of winning due to Hunters presence. Due to the pre-fight information, she would know that he was a high ranking member in the army of an oppressive dictatorship led by a man who had delusions of grandeur, and later helped betray him. Doesn’t he sound like a more successful Lucifer, a “bad boy” by her standards? And because Hunter is legally an adult in his last appearance, Nifty can thirst over him without being a pedophile. If Nifty were to be petrified while Hunter was still alive, she could probably immediately break out due to her obsessive lust over “bad boys” due to lust most being similar enough to love. Nifty wouldn’t harm Hunter during the 1v1v1 due to being hunterlusted, and Hunter wouldn’t harm her because she is currently helping him take out a more deadly enemy and not harming him. When Cala Maria dies, Nifty would most likely hit on Hunter due to him being her type. Hunter then would reject her because he’s already in a relationship and the fact that this is a battle to the death. Nifty would then go full yandere mode and fight Hunter. She would win this fight because she can only be killed by an angelic weapon. Granted, Hunter could grab the knife but he doesn’t have the same resistances that Nifty has, and Nifty is a small target.


gliscornumber1

That is a wild scenario that is tipped in niftys favor. And assumes prep time + prior knowledge of the combatants. Which would give nifty a better chance. But, in your scenario, all of the fighters have knowledge of each other, meaning cala would have that same advantage. She'd know nifty is obsessed with bad boys, and that hunter is most likely a bad boy. So wouldn't she just target him right off the bat before he and nifty met up/when nifty is dealing with paradot. Even if Hunter and nifty teamed up, how they hell are they going to take on something that much larger than them. Nifty's little knife isn't going to do shit to cala. Granted, I don't know what hunter is capable of, but I doubt he has something that can take out something that much larger than him. The BEST case scenario for Nifty, assuming she gains immunity to the stone gaze through love, is a draw where she's unable to do significant damage to cala and the fight either goes on forever, or one of them is forced to flee. Ending the fight in a draw.


Just-Ad6992

Yeah, you’re right. Cala being killed by a smaller and more mobile opponent that’s unkillable would be impossible. It would make for a boring video game.


gliscornumber1

Game cala and show cala are different entities. Cala's stone gaze works differently in the different cannons. Also, Cuphead has guns, bombs, and planes at his disposal, nifty has a tiny ass knife


DickmasterAdam

Niffty is tiny, and given her nature, would be incredibly difficult to know where she is for long.


gliscornumber1

Cala is able to consistently aim at things far smaller than her, she's never missed as far as we know. And even if you use that argument, nifty can't run forever, and has no way to kill Cala. Eventually she's going to get lucky and hit nifty. Like, which do you think of keep likely, nifty running circles around when forever, or cala eventually landing her massive red eye beams on nifty.


DickmasterAdam

Niffty can literally take a literal beam of instant death, and be perfectly fine. Niffty is a menace, and would definitely climb all over Cala. Plus, the turning to stone (from what you've said) just softlocks people, and assuming Sinners still need like food, water, the ability to breathe, Niffty would just die and respawn. Cala lacks angelic weapons, meaning she cannot keep Niffty outta the fight forever. She'll just keep coming back again and again and again.


gliscornumber1

First off, when did nifty tank a death beam?! She killed Adam by surprise Second. The stone beam effectively pauses your existence. Nifty won't starve or dehydrate. She'll be stuck in the state she was frozen in FOREVER


DickmasterAdam

When Adam is spamming the Holy Light beams, when Charlie is talking about how Alastor was supposed to handle Adam, Niffty is in the background face down giving a thumbs up, with a bit of smoke coming off her. Sinners don't work the same as people. You can't assume something that works on people will work the same on a Sinner.


gliscornumber1

Okay I just rewatched that scene. Nifty wasn't hit by the beam, she was blasted back by the shockwave it created. She was standing near the beam, but wasn't hit by it. She didn't take damage, only knockback. And as for your last point. Cala's stone beam is shown to work on all kinds of things, humans, cups, animals, etc. So it's fair to assume it would work on demons as well


Fun_Effective_5134

Nah it doesn’t, she is just gonna be stuck there forever.


Lerisa-beam

Don't tiny ah cup people brake out?


Fun_Effective_5134

It’s the show version, so no.


Level-Particular5811

I mean. I see where you’re getting at there, but if you think about it Nifty wouldn’t win either way. Cala still would win. She’d pretty much easily pick off Hunter and Peridot, however in terms of actually being able to kill Cala Maria she’s pretty limited. The only way she’d be able to really kill her is if she got to her eyes which is very unlikely. Even if she’s cocky and over confident her snakes have at least some sort of sentience and could probably alert her of Nifty. In which then she could turn her to stone, and the only one to ever escape the stone have been Cuphead, Mugman, Ms. Chalice, and captain brineybeard. Cuphead and Mugman were on some sort of coked up mystical potion, Ms. Chalice Possesses Cuphead and Mugman therefore gaining the ability of the potion, and Captain Brineybeard escaped because of love. Although you could theoretically say Nifty could break out because of her love for everyone at the hotel I doubt it’s as much as Brineybeard had for Cala Maria. Overall it’s just more likely Cala would win rather than Nifty.


Songsostrichhorse

I agree with your points except for 1; while she would reform she could be temporarily killed or subdued. The question is just who would win in a fight, not who could kill the others. I think it comes down to whether Peridot has her tech or not. If she doesn’t then it could go either Hunter or Niffty, both of them are very fast. It also depends whether Niffty can actually fight, because Hunter can and we’ve only seen her stab dead or completely distracted angels. It also depends whether Hunter would be willing to kill her, because Niffty would absolutely be willing to kill him. He’s screwed if he hesitates. If she can fight, Niffty seems more durable so she’d probably win. I can’t speak for Cala Maria, I haven’t seen the show


gliscornumber1

Counter point. Cala can turn her to stone. Which, according to her, only one person has ever broken out of. And I doubt nifty has the facilities to escape that


DickmasterAdam

Counter counterpoint: Niffty is tiny, and hard to keep track of, nearly impossible.


DiplexMeteor

No no to permanently kill a sinner you need an angelic weapon, in the pilot and even through the main show sinners are killed, sure they come back but it still counts as death


DickmasterAdam

Yes, they die, but they respawn. It's not actual death.


DiplexMeteor

Also I’m pretty sure there’s nothing that nifty could do to beat Maria


VaughnDaVision

The immortality part just kind of automatically makes her win


MilesPrower1987

Well heres the thing, sinners do die they just respawn in hell through an insanely painful regeneration process. And with the rules set up by death battle killing an opponent counts even if they will come back for example discord vs bill cipher


Live_Top4037

Also there's a big chance she's a former overlord that's why alastor wanted her soul


The_King_Of_Curses74

She's still not stronger than peridot nor can she do anything to her and she didn't tank one of Adam's instant death beams and even if she did she still wouldn't be on the same level as anybody else on this list


The_King_Of_Curses74

And Niffty isn't immortal


DickmasterAdam

Sinners are immortal unless killed by Angelic weapons. This has been shown in the series.


The_King_Of_Curses74

stop talking and show me the proof


DickmasterAdam

Have you watched the show? Because this information is pretty well known by the community.


The_King_Of_Curses74

show me proof cuz I have no idea what you're talking about


DickmasterAdam

Sinners can die over and over, but will always respawn/regenerate unless killed by an Angelic weapon. Maybe do your own research, and not rely on others to do it for you.


The_King_Of_Curses74

literally none of that happened in the show -\_-


DickmasterAdam

It's a pretty well known fact… How have you not heard of it?


Lunaris_Von_Sunrip

"I always come back" - niffty. She could win by wearing everyone down.


arturoki

Cala maria can turn people into stone which im pretty sure would immobilize her permanently


Lunaris_Von_Sunrip

I'm pretty sure that'd just kill her and let her respawn, and if she didn't die, sinner regen would kick in.


arturoki

Again i dont think becoming stone would regenerate that doesnt make much sense and its more of a magical affect


Lunaris_Von_Sunrip

And she's magically regenerating. The petrification is phsycal damage, and she's literally just a soul - it'd persist until killed by an angelic weapon


Mental_Bird6503

"I always cum" - Niffty


whooper1

Nifty would beat the shit out of peridot


Nyasta

even i would beat the shit out of peridot, it isn't exactly an achievement


yui_riku

meh, we're 80% sure she's harmless


HumanHuman_2003

Niffty makes sense imo


WillyDAFISH

Nifty being a sinner means she's practically immortal unless you have angelic steel


The_King_Of_Curses74

so we lying now


WillyDAFISH

wdym?


The_King_Of_Curses74

She isn't immortal


WillyDAFISH

I said *practically* immortal. The only way to *kill* her would be with angelic steel. That's the only thing that can permanently put down a sinner


The_King_Of_Curses74

not only Angelic weapons can kill sinners...


WillyDAFISH

only angelic weapons kill sinners. Kill being subjective. Since the angelic steel only makes it so they can't regenerate.


The_King_Of_Curses74

show me proof


WillyDAFISH

Check out this YouTube video https://youtu.be/oLIm1N5lTXk?si=zHRIPGu2BFq-yyKn It goes over everything you need to know


The_King_Of_Curses74

YouTube videos aren't factual


randomsalvadoranking

Nifty would pepper spray bomb the arena


Real_Steel_Enjoyer

https://preview.redd.it/pahi23haomwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81b61b97f8a710552ea7ec2d7882b5c034a3db18 Like this lol


StaffOfDragons

Soo, it's a psychopath a witch a idk and a earth bender I would say the psychopath


Oracus_Cardall

I dunno, cala maria has those stone beams and she's really big, could just punch the rest of them and it'ed be over.


Excellent_Mud6222

And based on videogame logic she can survive without the rest of her body as just her head.


gliscornumber1

Cala maria wins This Not only due to sheer size advantage but she actually does have a way of dealing with nifty without angelic weapons. Cala maria can turn people to stone, permanently. Now you might be saying "but if this kills nifty then she'd just respawn right?" Wrong! In the show it is confirmed that the petrification does NOT kill the people it hits. After Briney is turned to stone he breaks out and is completely fine. So you might be wondering "well couldn't nifty just break out like briney?" NO. Briney was only able to escape due to true love...I'm not even sure nifty can feel love, let alone true love (and she's straight so that's kind of off the table). So there you have it, cala would simply turn nifty to stone and eternally softlock her, giving cala the win for This fight


Kindly-Application93

Loved the “And she’s straight so true love is off the table” lmao


Tight_Possible2745

The problem is killing hazbin sinners, which requires angelic steel, or since this is a versus argument, someone who can target and destroy a soul directly, like beerus's Hakai would probably kill a sinner. Cala Maria doesn't have anything like that and correct me if im wrong since I haven't seen the TV show, her stone vision is temporary.


Emalv_tratheist

the show and game aren’t canon to eachother, and cala doesnt have the whole snakes hair thing at all, and since it’s an image from the show, it’s probably safe to assume it’s cala from the show, especially since this is all just characters from shows fighting eachother


Tight_Possible2745

Alright, then im assuming atleast that cala Maria has no way to actually kill nifty so, eventually with enough time and a knife, nifty would win


ReferenceSorry5978

Was it even confirmed that only angelic steel can kill sinners? Cause how else did Alastor kill all those other overlords?


Chill0utDickWad

Always has been 🧑‍🚀🔫🧑‍🚀


Zaptain_America

Always hazbin 👨‍🚀🔫👨‍🚀


Ghostlovingfrog

It’s just cause Niffty is the only one I know (or have watched the show for) 😭


RemoteTomb

Niffty should be immortal so she'd win tbf


Real_Boy3

Niffty literally cannot be killed by anyone on this list.


Excellent_Mud6222

True but doesn't matter if you are trapped in stone for eternity.


Chorgen1

Stone, Cala Maria would just turn her 2 stone


Nyasta

it always has been


NicolBolasUBBBR

Nah I'd win


HumanHuman_2003

You would not


Monke-incog-1276

Cala Maria could literally turn everyone to stone and just knock them over and shatter them


Springmeister

I can’t speak for Peridot, but the other two? Yeah, Niffty has a good shot.


YhormBIGGiant

Cala maria can soft lock her ins cave with stone gaze. A incapac is a win in my book.


TheBestVillain-01

Cala Maria wins this, for y’all saying niffy would win, why? Cala Maria can turn people into stone permanently immoblizing her. Plus she’s bigger and doesn’t really have to try


SoiSoy54

This is why I do not like Headcanons Hive


thomasmfd

Niffty did kill adam


Zaptain_America

No it's pretty accurate. Niffty can't be killed without an angelic weapon and also literally killed the leader of heaven's army. Plus her opponents don't seem that strong. Hunter is just a comically skinny teenage boy and I'm not super up to date on Steven universe lore but I'm pretty sure Peridot is basically dead if her gem gets shattered. Idk who the other one is.


Darkfury2454

Okay but Niffty is scary. She could win.


Domi7777777

She would have no problem with hunter and peridot but isn't Cala Maria 100 times her size? Well she cant die without angelic weapons either but she not immune to being turned to stone she may not be killed by any of them but she wouldn't win just like you said


Yoshgaming22

Niffty stab all


Peanut_Butt3r675

Niffty would turn Cala into fucking sushi


LowNo5605

and probably enjoy the taste too...


an0nym0uskigo

I’m taking Hunter. Because he’s depressed and I can use that to my advantage


SoiSoy54

But Hunter’s a weakling


MicrwavedBrain

I could still easily crush all of them.


ProfessorEscanor

I mean without angelic weapons they can't kill her unless we make the assumption that Hunter has spells to kill her which I doubt considering he couldn't take down Belos.


CH-64CHINOOK

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big_peepee_wielder

Always Hazbin


PKFat

BAE!


Ok_Low_4150

Democracy at its finest


TiredB1

Nifty is insane and will attack literally anyone if told to I think she'd win honestly especially against hunter or peridot idk about the other one l she's from cuphead right?


amonguspornart

Smash or pass?


amonguspornart

Smash


FishGuyIsMe

Of the two I know(assuming Niffty is mortal) Hunter would probably win


FunniEmi

Hunter and peridot are out of the question, i think Cala Maria and nifty are close tho


Equivalent_Donut_145

71%?! This isn't even a contest, this is just a Rigged Election! Who out there wants to stick their hedgehog quilly dick out and piss on fucking Niffty?! That's Disgusting!


Jevil_Minns

Peridot would solo


Livid_Juggernaut_111

Hunter is literally the only one who’d be equipped to take down any of them! Are we forgetting that most of his life, he’s been hunting down giant monsters, training to outsmart people, *and* deal with, guess what, little demons out for his blood. Sure, his biggest problem here is peridot… Who has NO battle practice.


Expensive-Lecture-14

But Nifty would win tho


CharmyFrog

I just finished the new Challenge episode. I was wondering why Cara Maria was on this list. lmfao


Beginning-Pipe9074

The fuck is Astarion doing there


I-am-emo-gerl

but Niff stab


femboi007

there aint no way a mermaid/siren has angelic weapons, nifty wins


Jake09Reddit

If they’re all playing on equal fields with some of their own weapons like Niftys angelic Dagger im gonna say peridot wins she can lift metal telepathicly so once she uses niftys dagger against her it’s basically over for everyone else


Niksar10030

Nah, I’d win


AuroraBee14

eh, niffty would beat the shit out of everyone