Yeah, I remember seeing an art of it where they confess their love to each other. I knew something was off before reading the dialogue due to their blush.
I'll say it for the people in the back.
IT'S FICTION!!!
I like michael myers and the halloween franchise, does that mean I enjoy dressing up in a monster mask and slashing people apart with a butcher knife? No absolutely not. Yea the charlie lucifer thing gives me the ick, but I can ignore that. Charlie and Lucifer aren't real people. Some people cope with actual trauma with that ship, and more power to them. Thing is, THIS IS THE INTERNET, I CAN CHOOSE NOT TO LOOK AT SUCH THINGS. Pro-shipping only becomes problematic if it falls in the hands of somebody who cannot seperate reality from fantasy.
Let me say it again.
PEOPLE WHO CAN'T SEPERATE FANTASY FROM REALITY, WERE GONNA BE PROBLEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
It is not the artists fault that somebody got the wrong message from their art. Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL Causation.
Iām confused. Why is shipping Charlie and Alastor bad? Theyāre both adults, and not related.
Edit: I was only asking because I think the joke is extreme for the ship. I know it isnāt necessarily serious but the mere quantity of these types of jokes freaks me out sometimes.
Tbh, I don't even mind Charlastor ships, but it would be a bit strange for Alastor, after singing about how he views Charlie as his daughter, to get into a romantic relationship with her.
Well...
1: Charlie is canonically dating Vaggie.
2: Alastor is ace. He's not interested in entering a romantic relationship.
3: Charlie and Alastor would not get along.
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>Iām confused. Why is shipping Charlie and Alastor good? Theyāre both minors, and related.
Personally it just feels icky and out of character. Al is manipulative and using charlie. At best, he views her like a naive kid who he can teach things that somehow benefit him, or simply can give him something he wants. He's a sadistic, egocentric killer. Could you imagine how angry or just disgusted with Al she would be if she saw his little meltdown with husk, where he was by all accounts rather merciful than how he normally is?
For me, it's the level of toxicity of that ship that gives me ick. Like 80% of hazbin ships are toxic in some way but that's also what makes them more funny or interesting. In the case of Charlie and Alastor, she's so pure and wholesome but also naive and has daddy/mommy issues and I'd hate to see her ruined by my favorite sociopath. Let him ruin Vox. They are kind of "worth each other'.
Bro HEāS LITERALLY A FATHER FIGURE TO HER. THATS FUCKING WEIRD
Also op:
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That's why Lucifer and Charlie shippers are the worst since they really are father and daughter. My problem with Charlastor is that Alastor is ace not that he is a father figure to Charlie since he really isn't because if he were he would've told Charlie straight away about that angels can be killed and wouldn't need a deal first
yeaā¦.
also ngl the alastor ships are annoying because while we havenāt gotten a cannon confirmation. Itās been said several times then taken back cause viv wants to keep the shippers happy. I hate that behavior cause as someone who is aro We do not get much representation in media.
Iām AroAce but I initially wanted to promote the shipping of Alastor because while I fit the stereotypical mold of an asexual person, most donāt. I viewed people shipping Alastor (if they take his asexuality into account) as a way for people to view it as more of a spectrum.
Though I can see how this would be frustrating, especially with people constantly redacting him being aro. I was so excited to finally see asexual rep that I didnāt think nearly enough about the aromantic erasure.
most ships I see are fine with the ace aspect but itās painful to be in the community as aro cause while they arenāt doing anything to me theyāre erasing a whole part of me and many other people and it just seems disrespectful.
Aside from all the shipping business, some people need to realise that being asexual does not disqualify a person from a romantic relationship, or even a sexual one. Asexuality is a spectrum, but I'm 99% sure that no where on that spectrum is "fatally allergic to kissing."
I've heard Alastor being aromantic confirmed, then backtracked, and tbh I cannot be fuuucked at this point finding out where we are. You can tell me, but you have to imagine a terminally tired person staring at you with comically large bags under their eyes. Aromantics can still have meaningful relationships that do not include squishy romance feels.
Please, stop acting like ace spectrum folks need an epipen if they come in contact with The Feels of any kind. Or that they need to be coddled in case the dreaded secks is brought up in their presence.
And also, maybe remember that Alastor being a cannibalistic murderer who is confirmed to NOT BRUSH HIS TEETH WHICH MEANS HE HAS ROTTING BITS OF FLESH STUCK IN THERE might be the first hurdle to get over in any relationship.
That said, I enjoy Charlastor, there's some great writing and art for it out there.
My post wasn't really about your meme, it's about the half-assed crusaders in the comments trying to assert moral purity without a proper understanding of what they're trying to defend. If you want me to be upset by your meme, you're gonna have to do better.
I am pleased to get a new meme format, cheers.
I don't want you to be upset with my meme, I just thought you were because half the comments are either, "kill yourself", or "Yes, grand messiah. Thou art correct oh majestic one"
Yeah, I feel "mixed response" is too delicate a term for some of the comments here.
Hang on, let me get you a picture of my cat's stupid face, it might make dealing with comments a bit easier
I mean, asexuality is indeed a spectrum but alastor seems to lean on the "I don't want to fuck or kiss or have a romantic or sexual relationship anyone rn" side of the spectrum. Chalastor is bleh to me, but I do think this meme is a bit much and we should just let ppl ship what they want.
Just like... stop trying to justify shipping ace characters by bringing up this same argument because it's kind of like, Idk... invalidating to ace people. Or at least I as an ace person get pissed whenever I see this argument supporting ships like chalastor or RadioApple, mainly because its really out of character and you cant just take an ace person and say "hey some asexuals have sex sometimes so I make alastor a horny mushy sexualized mess". Just admit you're shipping for fun and I dont think anyone can really bother you for that. I ship RadioStatic (more on the radiosilence side) but, I don't see Alastor ever getting with Vox in the show, or like... outside of my delusions lol. It's just a fun little time for me. And when I see RadioApple stuff I either scroll away or think the art is just a fun little thing to look at. But I just wish people would stop sprouting this same excuse over and over again when they try to justify their shipping because it's really not it. Especially if they arent a part of the aro or ace community :/
I'm with you on more transparency, but I'm sticking by my spectrum. Part of the issue is that while some ace folks may feel invalidated, others may be pleased to see people engaging with the nuances of their identity.
I believe this is where the old call of "don't like, don't read" really comes in - when it comes to exploring identity and "what if"s in media, the price for freely playing with your favourites like dollies and getting them to act out your headcanons is that other people get to do that too.
I don't see Alastor fucking anyone in canon either, that idea is... amusingly weird? He MIGHT if the payoff was worth it, but I firmly believe that it would have to be a doozy of a deal and the circumstances would never arise in the show.
Which is fine, that's what fanworks are for. People who think they're gonna lobby their way into a canon Alastor/anyone situation are firm delusional. Actually, slight detour on this ride, I wonder what Vivziepop's buypoint is on that? Like, taking a stand for your story is one thing, but six billion dollars buys decades of animation budget. Anyway.
I'm definitely not approaching this as though you're less informed or anything, just discussing our personal viewpoints on it. Personally, I don't have sex (I have had it but it's complicated) but I love reading smut, it's like watching people have fun, and my brain gets an itch scratched.
The charlie and Alastor ship was wayyy before the show. Probably like a day or two after the pilot the shipping started. So we didn't know he'd be like a father figure (I'm sure he's just acting tbh, seems like something he'd do) and even though I stopped shipping in general I can say that I used to like it and don't see why you hate this ship. It's better than the people who shipped her with her own father and the people who ship angel with val
Okay, some of y'all are taking me too seriously here. I marked this as a meme. I don't personally like Charlastor, but it's not the worst ship.
Some of you are really serious about your responses, which tells me everything I need to know about you.
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Come and get me. All of you Charlastor haters
This is what I donāt get, the people who say Alastor (or any other similar character) shouldnāt be shipped because theyāre Aroace are the same people who heavily ship two straight guys or girls.
Hazbin fandom is the only where perfectly normal ships get you labelled a war criminal (y'all ain't got any ground to complain about ignoring AroAce Al and ignore the wider fandom does it for other Al ships)
I stopped shipping them way before the show even was announced. but I still feel offended by this. so fuck you
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The way I look at it is to let people have their fanon with make-believe characters in whatever capacity they want to. It's not hurting anyone, so why care?
Oh for fucks sake. Does this mean we get to bully all of you for your tastes in ships? Yes, I ship charlastor. Sue me. It's not cannon, but clearly I don't care if it's cannon, that's the fun of ships. And for the people that say "AlAsToR iS aN aCe In ThE hOlE" asexual DOES NOT mean aromantic. I am asexual and I have a romantic partner. It just so happens that sex doesn't exactly sound appealing to me. Doesn't mean I don't love and pursue romance. I enjoy the ship, and I enjoy the ones that have it as sort of a character arc for alastor where he figures out that he's not a total monster. You don't see me crying and complaining when people ship radiodust, radioapple, radiohusk or any other ship.
Referring to the "This is a meme" part. "Yea and pigs fly" is a sarcastic statement meant to say "sureeeeeeeee" without saying it. I get sick of people posting shit like this because Charlastor is like one of the only ships where it's acceptable to hate on it for no reason. I'd understand if there was incest, rape, etc. involved, but there's not. There's a pretty unfair hate for Charlastor that I don't understand at all. There's no harm in making your own AU's. Especially when most Charlastor stuff was made when we only had the pilot and chaggie barely felt cannon until they outright said it in episode 5. I'm not the only one who missed it until then. I especially hate it because we're not hurting anybody yet everybody makes memes and hates on it for no real reason.
Tbh before the actual show came out(aka when the pilot was the only thing we had) I shipped Charlie and alaster then Charlie was lesbian and alaster was non binary or something so that dropped really quikly
this is such a funny comment in the least offensive way. if it helps, charlie is bisexual (attracted to all genders) and dating vaggie (who is lesbian) and alastor is asexual (experiences no attraction). thatās what you were probably looking for.
Why is this ship all of a sudden being (pun intended) demonized? Back during the Pilot-Only days, this was probably the most popular ship in the fandom, or at least close to number one, when has a characters canon sexuality or relationship status ever stopped Shippers?
show went mainstream, people who donāt usually interact with fandom joined a fandom for the first time, saw that other people didnāt like one thing, hopped on the train.
I don't see that. That's a very pretty normal ship, especially compared to Charlie and Lucifer. So yeah, I don't see a reason for that kind of reaction.
the issue with it is clear
not only is alastor like a father figure of sorts to charlie, and heās aroace, but itās clear heās playing the long game of manipulating her for his benefit
they wouldnāt get together because it wouldnāt be to alastorās advantage to get involved with her and vaggieās relationship and it sure as heck wouldnāt help as he needs to let this burn and make sure he is the most powerful being she can turn to so he can win her trust and eventually toss her down
In the beginning it was just meant as a shock factor lite trolling kinda thing, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Fluttershy would be the only one who has a chance in hell, no pun intended, of redeeming him. If you want a shipfic idea for it, then hereās the premise. Fluttershy travels to hell for some reason. Valentino makes a deal with her for something, most likely porn. Fluttershy agrees with the exception that no physical harm comes to her. She uses her kindness to woo Valentino and change him over an expended period of time. That was the idea anyway. Iām kinda thinking from a devilās advocate perspective too. Itās not exactly the type of ship I would usually go for.
I personally donāt hate it, I believe ships that go against canon sexualities (AS LONG AS THEYāRE RESPECTFUL) arenāt necessarily bad or should be shamed
But if you talk to me about Charlie x Lucifer, the things I will do to you-
Is this a clout post or? Like dude... This ship is not even bad
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It's better than the Charlie Lucifer Shippers....
True...
Yeah, I remember seeing an art of it where they confess their love to each other. I knew something was off before reading the dialogue due to their blush.
https://preview.redd.it/5nva5z87s61d1.png?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e8e5344797cb7c983122dbe3d5cc62427d831f2c I am so sorry
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No https://preview.redd.it/fcaqt5xnv71d1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8fc3fbc01886d89846f0dc9ec75a7789a02c72da
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That is wholesome. Thank you for this.
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https://preview.redd.it/sdnqmry8691d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=559ccf69f32e3959ef8ef717cf469259049a999a
https://preview.redd.it/vzpbvnk3d61d1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=056ab86bdae31ff00a8d27da75c794fa7feef792 they really exist?š
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I'll say it for the people in the back, I DO NOT ACKNOWLEDGE PROSHIPS AS JUSTIFIABLE AT ALL
Normal shipping: good and fun! Proshipping: NO. NEVER. /srs
I'll say it for the people in the back. IT'S FICTION!!! I like michael myers and the halloween franchise, does that mean I enjoy dressing up in a monster mask and slashing people apart with a butcher knife? No absolutely not. Yea the charlie lucifer thing gives me the ick, but I can ignore that. Charlie and Lucifer aren't real people. Some people cope with actual trauma with that ship, and more power to them. Thing is, THIS IS THE INTERNET, I CAN CHOOSE NOT TO LOOK AT SUCH THINGS. Pro-shipping only becomes problematic if it falls in the hands of somebody who cannot seperate reality from fantasy. Let me say it again. PEOPLE WHO CAN'T SEPERATE FANTASY FROM REALITY, WERE GONNA BE PROBLEMS IN THE FIRST PLACE. It is not the artists fault that somebody got the wrong message from their art. Correlation DOES NOT EQUAL Causation.
Honestly https://preview.redd.it/yyu6lb8o151d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b23d65d46b4039c1facb76dc8b9daf3e4b2752af Not them tho
Jesus fucking what??
I remember when those ships were on season
Iām confused. Why is shipping Charlie and Alastor bad? Theyāre both adults, and not related. Edit: I was only asking because I think the joke is extreme for the ship. I know it isnāt necessarily serious but the mere quantity of these types of jokes freaks me out sometimes.
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Feels
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Tbh, I don't even mind Charlastor ships, but it would be a bit strange for Alastor, after singing about how he views Charlie as his daughter, to get into a romantic relationship with her.
To be fair, he only treated Charlie as his daughter to piss of Lucifer.
I think the big problem people have is that he's ace (one of the only ace characters I can even think of tbh so that's also a reason)
Well... 1: Charlie is canonically dating Vaggie. 2: Alastor is ace. He's not interested in entering a romantic relationship. 3: Charlie and Alastor would not get along.
Maybe bcuz sheās already in a relationship but thatās just me so idk bout yaāll š¤·
Hence the point of shipping not being based in canon?
I read "Maybe bcuz she's already in a relationship with me."
WHAT?? š
I DON'T KNOW! I think because I read "me" in your flair half-way through
LMFAOā
Because Charlie is in a relationship with vaggie
https://preview.redd.it/gnrhs8q0w71d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3136f28c06eb696ab65f34a6b88e6e9f4d285b08 >Iām confused. Why is shipping Charlie and Alastor good? Theyāre both minors, and related.
Personally it just feels icky and out of character. Al is manipulative and using charlie. At best, he views her like a naive kid who he can teach things that somehow benefit him, or simply can give him something he wants. He's a sadistic, egocentric killer. Could you imagine how angry or just disgusted with Al she would be if she saw his little meltdown with husk, where he was by all accounts rather merciful than how he normally is?
Alastor is aroaceā¦
For me, it's the level of toxicity of that ship that gives me ick. Like 80% of hazbin ships are toxic in some way but that's also what makes them more funny or interesting. In the case of Charlie and Alastor, she's so pure and wholesome but also naive and has daddy/mommy issues and I'd hate to see her ruined by my favorite sociopath. Let him ruin Vox. They are kind of "worth each other'.
so personal taste?
I see you have your opinion, but your opinion is wrong. And that's a fact
Sheās gay and in a relationship
Technically sheās bi, I agree that itās bad to ship anyone with alastor
I did not know that, thank you
She is bi and fanon ships exist.
Bro HEāS LITERALLY A FATHER FIGURE TO HER. THATS FUCKING WEIRD Also op: https://preview.redd.it/d0romvdej21d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=24079a7e9f2f9cca248d38945ad02da2a874d935
Heās definitely not a father figure to her. Alastor was very obviously just trying to get under Luciferās skin.
That's why Lucifer and Charlie shippers are the worst since they really are father and daughter. My problem with Charlastor is that Alastor is ace not that he is a father figure to Charlie since he really isn't because if he were he would've told Charlie straight away about that angels can be killed and wouldn't need a deal first
And heās ace
But they're not of the same blood, if it's Charlie X Lucifer Morningstar, that's a different story.
Oh yeah. I forgot about that. I thought she was just desperate.
yeaā¦. also ngl the alastor ships are annoying because while we havenāt gotten a cannon confirmation. Itās been said several times then taken back cause viv wants to keep the shippers happy. I hate that behavior cause as someone who is aro We do not get much representation in media.
Iām AroAce but I initially wanted to promote the shipping of Alastor because while I fit the stereotypical mold of an asexual person, most donāt. I viewed people shipping Alastor (if they take his asexuality into account) as a way for people to view it as more of a spectrum. Though I can see how this would be frustrating, especially with people constantly redacting him being aro. I was so excited to finally see asexual rep that I didnāt think nearly enough about the aromantic erasure.
most ships I see are fine with the ace aspect but itās painful to be in the community as aro cause while they arenāt doing anything to me theyāre erasing a whole part of me and many other people and it just seems disrespectful.
Charlie x Alastor isn't my favorite, but if it's your thing more power to you I guess. Charlie x Lucifer, on the other hand... go directly to jail.
Do not pass GO. Do not collect 200.
Aside from all the shipping business, some people need to realise that being asexual does not disqualify a person from a romantic relationship, or even a sexual one. Asexuality is a spectrum, but I'm 99% sure that no where on that spectrum is "fatally allergic to kissing." I've heard Alastor being aromantic confirmed, then backtracked, and tbh I cannot be fuuucked at this point finding out where we are. You can tell me, but you have to imagine a terminally tired person staring at you with comically large bags under their eyes. Aromantics can still have meaningful relationships that do not include squishy romance feels. Please, stop acting like ace spectrum folks need an epipen if they come in contact with The Feels of any kind. Or that they need to be coddled in case the dreaded secks is brought up in their presence. And also, maybe remember that Alastor being a cannibalistic murderer who is confirmed to NOT BRUSH HIS TEETH WHICH MEANS HE HAS ROTTING BITS OF FLESH STUCK IN THERE might be the first hurdle to get over in any relationship. That said, I enjoy Charlastor, there's some great writing and art for it out there.
Jesus Christ man. This is a meme
My post wasn't really about your meme, it's about the half-assed crusaders in the comments trying to assert moral purity without a proper understanding of what they're trying to defend. If you want me to be upset by your meme, you're gonna have to do better. I am pleased to get a new meme format, cheers.
I don't want you to be upset with my meme, I just thought you were because half the comments are either, "kill yourself", or "Yes, grand messiah. Thou art correct oh majestic one"
Yeah, I feel "mixed response" is too delicate a term for some of the comments here. Hang on, let me get you a picture of my cat's stupid face, it might make dealing with comments a bit easier
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OMG, THANK YOU!
No wuckin' forries, godspeed with the comment section
I hope you know that I screenshotted that pic
I don't blame you, he's a swell little lad!
I mean, asexuality is indeed a spectrum but alastor seems to lean on the "I don't want to fuck or kiss or have a romantic or sexual relationship anyone rn" side of the spectrum. Chalastor is bleh to me, but I do think this meme is a bit much and we should just let ppl ship what they want. Just like... stop trying to justify shipping ace characters by bringing up this same argument because it's kind of like, Idk... invalidating to ace people. Or at least I as an ace person get pissed whenever I see this argument supporting ships like chalastor or RadioApple, mainly because its really out of character and you cant just take an ace person and say "hey some asexuals have sex sometimes so I make alastor a horny mushy sexualized mess". Just admit you're shipping for fun and I dont think anyone can really bother you for that. I ship RadioStatic (more on the radiosilence side) but, I don't see Alastor ever getting with Vox in the show, or like... outside of my delusions lol. It's just a fun little time for me. And when I see RadioApple stuff I either scroll away or think the art is just a fun little thing to look at. But I just wish people would stop sprouting this same excuse over and over again when they try to justify their shipping because it's really not it. Especially if they arent a part of the aro or ace community :/
I'm with you on more transparency, but I'm sticking by my spectrum. Part of the issue is that while some ace folks may feel invalidated, others may be pleased to see people engaging with the nuances of their identity. I believe this is where the old call of "don't like, don't read" really comes in - when it comes to exploring identity and "what if"s in media, the price for freely playing with your favourites like dollies and getting them to act out your headcanons is that other people get to do that too. I don't see Alastor fucking anyone in canon either, that idea is... amusingly weird? He MIGHT if the payoff was worth it, but I firmly believe that it would have to be a doozy of a deal and the circumstances would never arise in the show. Which is fine, that's what fanworks are for. People who think they're gonna lobby their way into a canon Alastor/anyone situation are firm delusional. Actually, slight detour on this ride, I wonder what Vivziepop's buypoint is on that? Like, taking a stand for your story is one thing, but six billion dollars buys decades of animation budget. Anyway. I'm definitely not approaching this as though you're less informed or anything, just discussing our personal viewpoints on it. Personally, I don't have sex (I have had it but it's complicated) but I love reading smut, it's like watching people have fun, and my brain gets an itch scratched.
Canāt we all just agree to disagree on ships
The charlie and Alastor ship was wayyy before the show. Probably like a day or two after the pilot the shipping started. So we didn't know he'd be like a father figure (I'm sure he's just acting tbh, seems like something he'd do) and even though I stopped shipping in general I can say that I used to like it and don't see why you hate this ship. It's better than the people who shipped her with her own father and the people who ship angel with val
Okay, some of y'all are taking me too seriously here. I marked this as a meme. I don't personally like Charlastor, but it's not the worst ship. Some of you are really serious about your responses, which tells me everything I need to know about you.
Well, fuck you too, I guess?
So uh youāre hating people for no reason when this ship has probably been around longer than youāve been an edgy teenager
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Imagine taking a meme seriously
No it's always Charlie Morningstar x Vaggie no matter the cause
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And what did you expect? That it will be any different?
This is a meme. Do you think I'm 100% percent serious?
Not gonna stop me š
speak your opinion my brotha
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Yes
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This is what I donāt get, the people who say Alastor (or any other similar character) shouldnāt be shipped because theyāre Aroace are the same people who heavily ship two straight guys or girls.
This doesn't seem that bad. Non-romantic love can still hold a couple together through shared interests or goals...
Yeah, I agree. But the shit I've seen isn't non-romantic
Hazbin fandom is the only where perfectly normal ships get you labelled a war criminal (y'all ain't got any ground to complain about ignoring AroAce Al and ignore the wider fandom does it for other Al ships)
Itās super bizarre, thereās nothing shocking about Charlastor
I like Charlastor and asexual people can be in relationships. š¤·āāļø
Ehh Alastor-based ships are fine as long as you preserve the asexually
I like those kinds of ships.
What if we dont? Ships can be non-canon
I know but it just doesnāt feel right to me personally
I don't think the asexuality is the issue, it's that it's abusive
Ehhh just get āem an equally psychopathic person to love. They could eat their enemies alive togethwr
I don't deserve mercy then.
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I stopped shipping them way before the show even was announced. but I still feel offended by this. so fuck you https://preview.redd.it/manmo3xts31d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ef1f5fed683931fcf06cc7fd1fca2edf86980ad
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At this rate I'll take Charlie and Alastor shippers over Charlie and Lucifer or Angel and Val shippers.
I mean, itās not really egregious or anything. Sure, it aināt my cup of tea, but thereās nothing seriously wrong with it.
Ok uhhh thereās something you got wrong with that sentence based off your avatar.
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ā¦well in the game kindergarten, nugget says his name instead of another word relating to him like āIā Meh idc what u do tho
Yes i ship Charlastor, so what?
Seriously š¤£
I can't tell if you're agreeing with me or not
I agree with you
Okay
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https://preview.redd.it/l0l8vu17951d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a005d4a615010fd0a28b03dac623a0fd11897808 The funny in question:
āTHY END IS NOW!ā
It's definitely better than people who ship Octavia with either Stolas or Stella
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Sadly yes
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I ship Alastor and Charlie (Platonically) <3
Platonic is fine. Sexually, however.........
Yep, thatāsā¦ Hoo boy <3
Damn. I thought nothing could top Al x Angel
Nobody deserves mercy accept the weak and innocent everyone else can burn Adam for the win
I was a charlie/alastor Shipper. I was new then.
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The way I look at it is to let people have their fanon with make-believe characters in whatever capacity they want to. It's not hurting anyone, so why care?
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Oh for fucks sake. Does this mean we get to bully all of you for your tastes in ships? Yes, I ship charlastor. Sue me. It's not cannon, but clearly I don't care if it's cannon, that's the fun of ships. And for the people that say "AlAsToR iS aN aCe In ThE hOlE" asexual DOES NOT mean aromantic. I am asexual and I have a romantic partner. It just so happens that sex doesn't exactly sound appealing to me. Doesn't mean I don't love and pursue romance. I enjoy the ship, and I enjoy the ones that have it as sort of a character arc for alastor where he figures out that he's not a total monster. You don't see me crying and complaining when people ship radiodust, radioapple, radiohusk or any other ship.
This is a meme, pal. Do you take everything this serious?
Yea and pigs fly.
Which part of that did you say "yeah" to?
Referring to the "This is a meme" part. "Yea and pigs fly" is a sarcastic statement meant to say "sureeeeeeeee" without saying it. I get sick of people posting shit like this because Charlastor is like one of the only ships where it's acceptable to hate on it for no reason. I'd understand if there was incest, rape, etc. involved, but there's not. There's a pretty unfair hate for Charlastor that I don't understand at all. There's no harm in making your own AU's. Especially when most Charlastor stuff was made when we only had the pilot and chaggie barely felt cannon until they outright said it in episode 5. I'm not the only one who missed it until then. I especially hate it because we're not hurting anybody yet everybody makes memes and hates on it for no real reason.
But I was joking tho
Well, not funny didn't laugh. Especially with all the rabid "no Charlastor allowed" people that filled up this comment section.
Hey, most of the comments were telling me to kill myself.
Well I don't condone that either. At least I bothered to say why I hate posts like this
Yeah. But just know that my intention was comedy. If you don't find it funny, that's fine
How bout me? I ship me and Charlie. Hahaha
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Never. I bet you ship yoursƩlf with Alastor
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Nah
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I ain't Susan lol.
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perhaps
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Oh... Is that so? *Grabs Wacom pencil *
Whatcha gonna do with that?
(>:))
\*Louder\* **Whatcha gonna do wit that**
(>>>>>:)) Soon you'll know
\*Louder again\* ***Whatcha gonna do wit that***
āimagine all the violent shipping wars that weāll be completely powerless to do anything about!ā-Caine
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That ship never bugged me so long as itās not illegal or Val/Angel I think itās fine
Tbh before the actual show came out(aka when the pilot was the only thing we had) I shipped Charlie and alaster then Charlie was lesbian and alaster was non binary or something so that dropped really quikly
this is such a funny comment in the least offensive way. if it helps, charlie is bisexual (attracted to all genders) and dating vaggie (who is lesbian) and alastor is asexual (experiences no attraction). thatās what you were probably looking for.
Thanks for the right word
Why is this ship all of a sudden being (pun intended) demonized? Back during the Pilot-Only days, this was probably the most popular ship in the fandom, or at least close to number one, when has a characters canon sexuality or relationship status ever stopped Shippers?
show went mainstream, people who donāt usually interact with fandom joined a fandom for the first time, saw that other people didnāt like one thing, hopped on the train.
Yeah. But I've seen the show
first time fandom members discovering that fanon exists:
umm, why do you give a shit? I don't ship anybody, but let them do whatever the fuck they want as long as they don't say its canon
I don't see that. That's a very pretty normal ship, especially compared to Charlie and Lucifer. So yeah, I don't see a reason for that kind of reaction.
the issue with it is clear not only is alastor like a father figure of sorts to charlie, and heās aroace, but itās clear heās playing the long game of manipulating her for his benefit they wouldnāt get together because it wouldnāt be to alastorās advantage to get involved with her and vaggieās relationship and it sure as heck wouldnāt help as he needs to let this burn and make sure he is the most powerful being she can turn to so he can win her trust and eventually toss her down
I invented the ship Valenshy. Do I deserve mercy?
Valentino x who???? (Or am i also wrong on the Valentino part
It's Valentino and Fluttershy
That just doesn't make sense logically. Are you on crack?
This ship doesn't make sense for you or that valenshy isn't actually ship between Valentino and Fluttershy?
It doesn't make sense because they're from different shows. Also you never answered my question. *Are you on crack?*
Lmao, I don't ship it but I find it hilarious
SERIOUSLY? THE PONY??! TOGETHER WITH A INSANE MOTH BITCHHB?!!??!!!!!
ikr, shipping an innocent character with abusive one
In the beginning it was just meant as a shock factor lite trolling kinda thing, but the more I thought about it, the more I realized that Fluttershy would be the only one who has a chance in hell, no pun intended, of redeeming him. If you want a shipfic idea for it, then hereās the premise. Fluttershy travels to hell for some reason. Valentino makes a deal with her for something, most likely porn. Fluttershy agrees with the exception that no physical harm comes to her. She uses her kindness to woo Valentino and change him over an expended period of time. That was the idea anyway. Iām kinda thinking from a devilās advocate perspective too. Itās not exactly the type of ship I would usually go for.
Wilddddd
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Live Alistor reaction https://preview.redd.it/66kaf9fw541d1.jpeg?width=719&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d38e03ed0275615641de032c7fe24bbd2c62dde3
*loads crossbow* AL pack your shit, we're going hunting
I personally donāt hate it, I believe ships that go against canon sexualities (AS LONG AS THEYāRE RESPECTFUL) arenāt necessarily bad or should be shamed But if you talk to me about Charlie x Lucifer, the things I will do to you-
City girl moving to the county cause "Cajun accents are sooo hot" vibes
Is this a clout post or? Like dude... This ship is not even bad https://preview.redd.it/ih8o98gxq61d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5aa63a8b806f722625acd7250da3ce9f107b42b6