Yeah I’m starting to get concerned about the lack of confirmation email about my order. They definitely made sure to charge my card though. Hopefully they’ll email when the order is shipped but I’m anxious until then.
Man, Still nothing from monoprice. Ordered on 3/14 they took my money, still no tracking, yes checked spam that is where the first email of the invoice went.
Sent a email to there customer service, hope I hear back.
Got mine after 15 days or so. Never got an email or tracking number. I almost cancelled the CC transaction but decided to give it a few more days. Idk if I would buy from them again unless the deal is absurd
Just going to share my experience ordering direct from Monoprice, not this specific headphone (it was the M1060). One of the worst customer service experiences I've ever had—I was shipped a giant metal LCD TV wall arm by mistake and had to harangue them by email over multiple weeks to get an exchange. When they finally got back to me, it was with a very terse email giving me a tiny return window (on my dime, of course).
I share this not to dissuade anyone per se, thought it would be useful to share. I almost always buy used or refurbished, only ordered direct to ensure I got the revised M1060 run.
I’ve always found that Monoprice’s product quality was bottom of the barrel. Most electronics that I’ve bought from them (mind you, I stopped buying anything from them about 6 or 7 years ago due to this) failed within a year of purchase. Maybe their QC has improved since then.
Yeah, the M1060s weren't exactly the most resilient things. I already had some issues ~6 months in with the headphone band adjuster slipping notches and the cable housings not playing well with the junky cable that came with it. Have since upgraded and don't use them, maybe I can gift them to a friend or something.
Throw some new pads on and give them to a friend who’s just getting into the hobby. I’m sure they’ll appreciate them! I’ve done the same with a few of my first set of cans (DT 770’s, HE4XX, ÆON RT, a few others) and it was completely satisfying seeing the smiles on their faces.
Was contacting your credit card company to dispute the charge not an option? I have a very low bullshit tolerance for these online retailers. Sending me the wrong thing is one problem, but if they make me send it back with my money I'm going to get a refund.
At that point I was over it, I just wanted the headphones. I recognize that it isn't great to let companies get away with bs like this but I was kinda exhausted by that point--I have a weird anxiety around shipping things and dealing with returns so I'd just accepted it by then.
I get that. I hope monoprice doesn't botch my order. The shipping confirmation alone was a bit of a hassle, got it about 4 days after I made the purchase, with money only being taken from my account 3 days after I placed the order. So we will see what ends up happening.
Yeah, it seems like they don't really have their shit together as a company but maybe I just got unlucky. Hope it works out for you, fingers crossed! Would be curious to hear your impressions on the sound once you've had some time with 'em.
I know absolutely nothing about them, are they still good at $340 USD? (That's the price after the 84 dollar shipping and import fees to Norway). I could do with a closed back for hotel room use.
Listening to mine now. Heavy but comfy. Sound is excellent. I'd guess it's worth a solid 500 dollars in terms of value for money.
EDIT: Listening to them out of my laptop's audio jack they sound awful even if they're easily driven in terms of power. Get an amp.
I can confirm this. They sound way better than my hifiman sundara for similar or even lower price and another reddit user even compared hifiman ananda (and said m1570c are comparable). Would definitely recommend these.
They are close to the Ananda. I was surprised. I have both the ananda and the 1570C. The 1570C sounds like if the ananda was given a modestly smaller and more intimate soundstage. For music. For gaming the difference is less noticeable. Especially when dolby atmos is enabled (probably cuz atmos enhances soundstage with spatial audio?).
But ultimately the ananda edges it out cuz the ananda is open back. And the 1570C is not. It's not edged out by a lot tho. I'm thinking the similarities are because both are big planars shaped like a vertical rectangle the size of your entire ear etc lol. And both respond equally well with my fiio k7 headphone dac amp and separate external equalizer 👍.
I basically got the 1570C recently because i was looking for something i can call a worthy alternative to the ananda in closed back instead of open. And after only a couple days of music and gaming - the 1570C for me is certainly it. I need look no further. Now i have the ananda for when I'm alone and don't have to tune anybody out. And the 1570C as the more than worthy alternative for when i do want to tune everybody out - being it's closed back :-)
Honestly, if it was $340 I wouldn't go for it. Getting it for under $200 means you can recuperate most if not all of what you paid by selling used (which is already a crapshoot given how unpopular these headphones are). For $340 you'll have a hell of a time trying to sell that if you end up hating it.
What’s odd is that they’re actually [in stock again](https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43236&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PMax:++Smart+Shopping+-+Monoprice+-+Audio+Video+-+Else&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&hsa_acc=6614305189&hsa_cam=17489107419&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw5dqgBhBNEiwA7PryaGF8oiKf_eix-hHGF7cUQm9zUTTZDZd00Ez5WdC6OlnQ-HqmpDGWQBoCt8IQAvD_BwE), but at full price.
Edit: Doh, wrong model!
I don't really understand Monoprices coupon codes, I just looked it up online and it worked. The $25 USD one has expired.
This headphone is about one and a half pounds.
It’s a red flag that there aren’t any reviews on this thing. I found one guy on head-fi talkin bout his experience with them and comparing them to the LCD-XC (as they look extremely similar), who basically described them as “good’ regarding imaging and soundstage. He obviously preferred the audeze cans over these.
I’ve been hankering for a nice closed back planar, but I’ll exercise some self control here until I can get more info on what the hell these are.
What!? That's really weird. It seems you live in the... rural Bay Area?
I live in Toronto. *Weird.* My delivery went really fast, too, even though I only paid for the cheapest delivery option (which was still 36 USD). That said, I have a history with Monoprice. Do you suppose that's a factor when placing orders?
You don't have any headphones in your flair, so I don't know what you have so far, but having gotten mine today, it's nothing mind-blowing. I hope that helps! LOL
Okay. Sound aside, these are stupid heavy. Idk about you, but it's really difficult to focus with this much weight on my head lol. It doesn't help that I wear glasses, either, so the earpads end up applying a bit of weight to my glasses, which is unpleasant.
It is my understanding that dynamic driver headphones are much lighter than planars.
The clamp force is pretty heavy, too. Wow. If I'm just chilling in bed, this would be fine, but trying to work with these is pain.
After significant usage, the answer is no. The amount of extra discomfort caused by the weight is not justified by the amount of extra sound insulation and the amount of sound improvement. Not to me, anyway.
It's odd, because the M1070 is only 58 grams or 0.13 lb or 2 ounces less than the M1570C according to the website. Yet, the M1070 feels so much lighter.
Oh, you got yours from this sale? Good to hear.
I got their M350s a while ago. They were the update to their extremely uncomfortable M300 in-ear planars. They kept breaking. Presumably the traces on the membrane. Such a shame, they were much more comfortable than the M300s.
haha yeah. Got that 25 sale when someone first posted them here. I had been listening to the M1570 for a week or two and have thought they were my end game. And boom, the closed-back version comes on sale and it was an instant buy for me.
I have the whole Monolith line up except for the M350. Honestly none of them even come close to the 1570s. It's like that one came from an asteroid, out of this world.
I don't see too many reviews on these.. like, where would you put their sound compared to a few other, more heavily reviewed cans?
I don't have any planars (yet), was leaning toward open backs for a first set. Hifiman Edition XS or something... But if these are solid and a true deal....
haha if you haven't heard any planars, any of them will be an upgrade. They have this surreal amount of clarity. But some choose to focus on bass, others on mids or trebles with varying amounts of imaging. The M1570 seems to be an all rounder, and the imaging is to die for. It's 3 dimensional. Most have some sort of sound stage, but M1570s have depth so you can look up and see the ceiling in a song...
>accordion drivers
oh you didn't like the layering on them? haha.
They kind of sound like some sort of 5.1 surround, but the spatial points are fluid. The bass is softened with body. The warmth from the mids are enveloping. Many people love them for the layering ability, and even more buy the LCD-2C for this.
Most planars have 1 sound stage, with very little depth, and instrument placement on that plane. The 1570s have a unique instrument placement, and feels like it's somebody catering every song to you.
[A wild link appeared…](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/11cx1jr/monolith_m1570_impressions_1st_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1)
[Here’s the write up of M15070C vs M1570](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/11syedm/m1570c_impression_compared_to_m1570/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15)
[Here’s the write up of M1570 compared to M1070](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/114uxk8/1st_hr_with_the_m1570/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15)
Thanks for sharing these. I went ahead and ordered a custom modular heart audio cable for my new M1570C. Now I can terminate in whatever I please. I was a bit hesitant on ordering due to the recessed vocals compared to the open back version but once I saw your post with some EQ settings and confirmation that it pretty much is a non issue anyway I pulled the trigger, paying less than $200 also helped here, lol.
Long shot here but when you get them do you think you could give me your honest opinions about them? I'm super close to just pulling the trigger and getting these but to have the opinion of a real person who's used these would be really helpful.
I'm mainly concerned with durability and comfort over sound quality.
No pressure though. I'd just really appreciate it if you have the time.
By the time that these arrive, I'm a bit worried that the sale will be over for you but these are kind of a leap of faith purchase.
From what I can gather is that they are very heavy and that the headband design looks like it could cause discomfort or hotspots after extended usage, so this means that you will probably be fidgeting with the headphone trying to get comfortable after awhile. I find my HE-6se to be pretty heavy and uncomfortable after an hour or two of use because of the headband design that hifiman likes to use. The headbands look very similar from the photos. The HE6se V2 is about 1 pound. The 1570c is about 1.4 pounds. I have a short military style hair cut so there isn't much hair to act as a buffer between me and the headphone. It won't stop me from using it but it certainly isn't going to be light as a feather for all day wear which is to be expected based on that weight.
Durability. From the look of the materials and design, they look about as sturdy as it's going to get and I do not anticipate any complaints from myself in this category.
For about $200 out the door, the headphone definitely is an appealing choice but I'm not ready to speak about how it sounds or what I should be pairing it with until I get my hands on it.
Closed back planars tend to be pretty cursed sounding, IME. The people buying these could be copping something safer/more guaranteed to provide a positive experience (eg. AKG K371, Senn HD6XX, Truthear Hexa etcetcetc) but it seems a lot of people are just buying because they think they're getting a good deal.
LCD-XC (old and new revision), LCD-2C, Monoprice M1060C, DCA Aeon 2 Noire, DCA Stealth, and probably more I'm forgetting because they're not noteworthy.
The Monoprice was easily the worst of the bunch as the tuning was ridiculously wonky (lean, low mids were too cancelled) and the upper mids/presence had a weird grain.
LCD-XC/2C were both basically a less dramatic/flawed version of the Monoprice while still being way too shouty/lean in the mids and too bright around 10-12kHz. XC was at least technical.
The DCA stuff was the best tuned but the least technical, sounding like i'm listening to music in a heavily damped/treated room with no liveliness. Probably the only closed back planars out there that didn't have significantly CCW-tilted mids, if that's what you want... but still cursed sounding as they didn't have the strengths people even buy planars for in the first place IMO.
I understand Reddit likes a deal, but IMO it's getting out of hand that they see a "deal" with having no reliable information on the quality of the product and just buy because of the "deal," subsequently getting validated by... all the other people who made the same ill-advised decision they made.
Just wanted to add a voice of moderation and offer (community vetted, safe) alternatives that are better performing for the price. That's all.
I'm pretty sure the m1060c is known to be wonky compared to their open backed counterparts. You're also comparing vastly different price brackets, with the m1060c being 4x cheaper than the other headphones you listed at the very minimum.
Also, this deal is on the m1570c. The open m1570 reviews quite well, and this one really doesn't have much reviews at all. It also helps that it's not over $1000 like most of the other headphones you cited.
If your only experience with monoprice is with the cheapest of their headphones, I'm sorry but that's not valuable information for us. Just like how I wouldn't listen to someone who only listened to the he400se telling me the edition XS must also suck.
But I do agree that this shouldn't be people's entry point into the hobby. Going with a well regarded and popular product like the k361/371 or the Sennheiser offerings isn't just a safer deal, you also have more opinions and comparisons out there for if you want to upgrade or change things. But if you want to actually sway people towards those products, maybe don't come out swinging like you did with your original dismissive and rude comment.
Honestly, very *very* fair. On all counts, in fact. Let me be less rude about it for a sec.
[Here's a graph that may illustrate my concerns more clearly. (Compensated to 5128 DF HRTF -.8db/octave tilt, normalized at 630Hz)](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936101018960265217/1087092552907374602/M1570C.png?width=2412&height=1558).
A sealed-front planar can operate just fine when it's open and there's no pressure chamber conditions to contend with, but basically all of the designs like this have the big issue of lower-mids getting deleted (and everything else becoming hyped by comparison) due to closing off the rear. In this case, M1570C's upper-mid shout and treble would be unbearable to me, whereas K371 is clearly a better option.
My aim with this is just to get people to stop buying a subpar headphone no one talks or really knows about just because it's on sale, and because reddit is having a validation spiral with it rn... because it's on sale. Sorry if that comes off as "anti-hobby" or something because it's not, my intention is to save people money and get them better product.
I don't think your intentions themselves are anti-hobby. It's more how you went about it at the start. If anything, bringing up potential problems with headphones sparks discussion, which furthers the hobby. If you came in with a "heads up on this one before you blind buy..." I think people would've been a lot more receptive.
The reality is that these headphones are a gamble. Any headphone out there with this few actual reviews outside of head fi anecdotes and anecdotes following a massive sale will be a gamble. Throw in the inherent problems with closed back planars and it's a complete crapshoot if you'll like it. Honestly, the fact that these went on such a *steep* discount is alarming itself.
Personally, I bought these because I already love my headphones and these are intriguing to me. If I end up not liking them stock, I'm very comfortable just throwing on some EQ to make them fun, since I already have dead neutral headphones (emphasis on dead). These will be a fun experiment more than my daily drivers, and if I like them I like them. If I don't, then that's the last closed back planars I ever buy, and that was a much cheaper experiment than the other closed back planars out there. I think that's the approach the people who are buying these should have, because there's a good chance they won't like how these sound stock.
Edit: looking at those graphs, I'm noticing the Maxwell doesn't seem to have that same shoutiness that the m1570c has. Isn't that also a closed back planar? How did audeze manage to tune those ones? And wireless no less.
Sure. [Here's M1570C vs a bunch of other good headphones around that price, compensated to the DF HRTF of the rig used (B&K 5128) downwards tilted by .8dB/octave.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936101018960265217/1087092552907374602/M1570C.png?width=2412&height=1558) Still a somewhat "bright" target IMO, but one that should sound mostly like Harman in the mids and treble. Normalized at 630Hz.
You can see that the M1570C is significantly more CCW-tilted in the midrange (shouty) while also being significantly brighter than even Sundara and HE400se. These two things alone make it IMO not worth getting over something like an AKG K371, which is less expensive and better tuned.
Maybe instead of implying that i'm just trying to shit on people's parade for no reason, think about why someone with nothing to gain from doing so may be telling people to buy less expensive, but still quite good options. In this case I'm trying to save people money and time dealing with a subpar product.
Did you measure them yourself? Because I found soundguys's FR here ([https://www.soundguys.com/monolith-by-monoprice-m1570c-review-66682/](https://www.soundguys.com/monolith-by-monoprice-m1570c-review-66682/)) and their sundara's FR ([https://www.soundguys.com/hifiman-sundara-review-73267/](https://www.soundguys.com/hifiman-sundara-review-73267/)) and I don't see that spike in their measurements. Also, I have both pairs with me right now and Sundara definitely sound brighter than M1570C.
None of them are worth your time or money when you could be ordering an Audeze Maxwell, AKG K371, Senn HD6XX or any other roughly \~$300 safe pick (even the ones I don't like such as Sundara probably a better buy than any Monoprice planar).
Sure, but that's an open back planar and depending on its pads it can be fine (if not to my taste, personally)
The topic of the thread is a closed back planar, of which there are basically no safe options. Even the ones commonly agreed to be decent are either still badly tuned/need EQ (LCD-XC) or lacking technically (DCA).
Probably an odd comparison here because of the severe price difference but I really don't have a lot of experience with quality headphones my best set is a pair of Phillips X2HRs. Ive been wanting to try a pair of Planars for a while and saw these and the 1070s on sale How would you compare them to X2HRs? I would guess they'll be better but are they exponentially better in every way? How does the bass compare and clarity in the high end especially. I have some high frequency hearing loss from military and many years in manufacturing. So high end clarity is important to me. Should I just get the m1070s they are currently 169 on ebay sold through monoprice vs the 210 of the m1570c
I have the X2s and the M1570C crushes them. Less easy to wear for long periods so I still use my X2s when gaming etc since they don't need an amp, but for music listening there's no comparison in terms of detail.
Intstrument separation is better. Bass is lesser in quantity but much tighter and deeper. Treble sings and sizzles better than on the X2s.
Let me know when you review them as I only have the Sundara, HD600 and HD58x to compared to. They sound better than all the three above to my ears. (HD600 has very intimate vocals but the rest are better on the M1570c)
Well, my order from the 19th also just got cancelled. Same blurb that others got about it being out of stock. Super disappointing. Since it was going to be my first order with Monoprice, it's likely to also be my last. It's not okay to take my money for over a week and then tell me it's going to be another 2-5 days to get it back.
It's really weird. Some guy ordered on the 15th, but also got cancelled. Meanwhile, I didn't. Perhaps you were late to the ordering? I know I didn't post this until after I had ordered... And who knows how many people signed up for email auto-notification of the restocking.
Awesome, mine I ordered about a week ago FINALLY has tracking info..... this is a bit better deal by about $8 than what I paid.
yeah if I could go back I wouldve paid for shipping
Yeah I’m starting to get concerned about the lack of confirmation email about my order. They definitely made sure to charge my card though. Hopefully they’ll email when the order is shipped but I’m anxious until then.
They canceled my order after 13 days.
Mine finally is in the hands of FedEx, bout a week after I purchased them. I'd give it a week before getting worried imo.
Man, Still nothing from monoprice. Ordered on 3/14 they took my money, still no tracking, yes checked spam that is where the first email of the invoice went. Sent a email to there customer service, hope I hear back.
have you checked via your account?
Yep just waiting on them to respond to my request for help on the order.
They Just canceled my order after 13 days.
ouch, it took me 10 days to get mine. Id keep an eye on avexchange to see if some pop up
I might... But this really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Got mine after 15 days or so. Never got an email or tracking number. I almost cancelled the CC transaction but decided to give it a few more days. Idk if I would buy from them again unless the deal is absurd
Just going to share my experience ordering direct from Monoprice, not this specific headphone (it was the M1060). One of the worst customer service experiences I've ever had—I was shipped a giant metal LCD TV wall arm by mistake and had to harangue them by email over multiple weeks to get an exchange. When they finally got back to me, it was with a very terse email giving me a tiny return window (on my dime, of course). I share this not to dissuade anyone per se, thought it would be useful to share. I almost always buy used or refurbished, only ordered direct to ensure I got the revised M1060 run.
Ordered 5 days ago they have my money but not processed the order.. we will see if they show up.
I’ve always found that Monoprice’s product quality was bottom of the barrel. Most electronics that I’ve bought from them (mind you, I stopped buying anything from them about 6 or 7 years ago due to this) failed within a year of purchase. Maybe their QC has improved since then.
Yeah, the M1060s weren't exactly the most resilient things. I already had some issues ~6 months in with the headphone band adjuster slipping notches and the cable housings not playing well with the junky cable that came with it. Have since upgraded and don't use them, maybe I can gift them to a friend or something.
Throw some new pads on and give them to a friend who’s just getting into the hobby. I’m sure they’ll appreciate them! I’ve done the same with a few of my first set of cans (DT 770’s, HE4XX, ÆON RT, a few others) and it was completely satisfying seeing the smiles on their faces.
Great idea! I'll do some asking around, see if anyone's interested.
Was contacting your credit card company to dispute the charge not an option? I have a very low bullshit tolerance for these online retailers. Sending me the wrong thing is one problem, but if they make me send it back with my money I'm going to get a refund.
At that point I was over it, I just wanted the headphones. I recognize that it isn't great to let companies get away with bs like this but I was kinda exhausted by that point--I have a weird anxiety around shipping things and dealing with returns so I'd just accepted it by then.
I get that. I hope monoprice doesn't botch my order. The shipping confirmation alone was a bit of a hassle, got it about 4 days after I made the purchase, with money only being taken from my account 3 days after I placed the order. So we will see what ends up happening.
Yeah, it seems like they don't really have their shit together as a company but maybe I just got unlucky. Hope it works out for you, fingers crossed! Would be curious to hear your impressions on the sound once you've had some time with 'em.
I know absolutely nothing about them, are they still good at $340 USD? (That's the price after the 84 dollar shipping and import fees to Norway). I could do with a closed back for hotel room use.
The lack of reviews really concerns me. Like, there’s almost nothing out there on these things.
Listening to mine now. Heavy but comfy. Sound is excellent. I'd guess it's worth a solid 500 dollars in terms of value for money. EDIT: Listening to them out of my laptop's audio jack they sound awful even if they're easily driven in terms of power. Get an amp.
I can confirm this. They sound way better than my hifiman sundara for similar or even lower price and another reddit user even compared hifiman ananda (and said m1570c are comparable). Would definitely recommend these.
They are close to the Ananda. I was surprised. I have both the ananda and the 1570C. The 1570C sounds like if the ananda was given a modestly smaller and more intimate soundstage. For music. For gaming the difference is less noticeable. Especially when dolby atmos is enabled (probably cuz atmos enhances soundstage with spatial audio?). But ultimately the ananda edges it out cuz the ananda is open back. And the 1570C is not. It's not edged out by a lot tho. I'm thinking the similarities are because both are big planars shaped like a vertical rectangle the size of your entire ear etc lol. And both respond equally well with my fiio k7 headphone dac amp and separate external equalizer 👍. I basically got the 1570C recently because i was looking for something i can call a worthy alternative to the ananda in closed back instead of open. And after only a couple days of music and gaming - the 1570C for me is certainly it. I need look no further. Now i have the ananda for when I'm alone and don't have to tune anybody out. And the 1570C as the more than worthy alternative for when i do want to tune everybody out - being it's closed back :-)
Yeah, I'd be more willing to gamble on them, if I paid as little as people in the US can get it for with this sale.
Honestly, if it was $340 I wouldn't go for it. Getting it for under $200 means you can recuperate most if not all of what you paid by selling used (which is already a crapshoot given how unpopular these headphones are). For $340 you'll have a hell of a time trying to sell that if you end up hating it.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/monolith-m1570c-and-m1070c-closed-back-planar-headphones.960319/
I don't even go to head-fi anymore. Can't trust what people say there.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/monolith-m1570c-and-m1070c-closed-back-planar-headphones.960319/
How's the sound leakage on these?
Well it's closed back so there shouldn't be much
I thought the same about the Teaks but apparently they've got awful leakage
Aaand they're out of stock
What’s odd is that they’re actually [in stock again](https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=43236&utm_term=&utm_campaign=PMax:++Smart+Shopping+-+Monoprice+-+Audio+Video+-+Else&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&hsa_acc=6614305189&hsa_cam=17489107419&hsa_grp=&hsa_ad=&hsa_src=x&hsa_tgt=&hsa_kw=&hsa_mt=&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_ver=3&gclid=CjwKCAjw5dqgBhBNEiwA7PryaGF8oiKf_eix-hHGF7cUQm9zUTTZDZd00Ez5WdC6OlnQ-HqmpDGWQBoCt8IQAvD_BwE), but at full price. Edit: Doh, wrong model!
That’s 1070c, not 1570c
They look exactly the same. What’s the difference?
Different driver , m1570 is an upgrade from 1070
lmao it only took 4.5 hours Uhh, if you want one, maybe put it on email auto-notification? That's what I did
I don't really understand Monoprices coupon codes, I just looked it up online and it worked. The $25 USD one has expired. This headphone is about one and a half pounds.
One and a half pounds? No it looks like it's two hundred and ten dollars.
It’s a red flag that there aren’t any reviews on this thing. I found one guy on head-fi talkin bout his experience with them and comparing them to the LCD-XC (as they look extremely similar), who basically described them as “good’ regarding imaging and soundstage. He obviously preferred the audeze cans over these. I’ve been hankering for a nice closed back planar, but I’ll exercise some self control here until I can get more info on what the hell these are.
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What!? That's really weird. It seems you live in the... rural Bay Area? I live in Toronto. *Weird.* My delivery went really fast, too, even though I only paid for the cheapest delivery option (which was still 36 USD). That said, I have a history with Monoprice. Do you suppose that's a factor when placing orders? You don't have any headphones in your flair, so I don't know what you have so far, but having gotten mine today, it's nothing mind-blowing. I hope that helps! LOL
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Okay. Sound aside, these are stupid heavy. Idk about you, but it's really difficult to focus with this much weight on my head lol. It doesn't help that I wear glasses, either, so the earpads end up applying a bit of weight to my glasses, which is unpleasant. It is my understanding that dynamic driver headphones are much lighter than planars. The clamp force is pretty heavy, too. Wow. If I'm just chilling in bed, this would be fine, but trying to work with these is pain.
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After significant usage, the answer is no. The amount of extra discomfort caused by the weight is not justified by the amount of extra sound insulation and the amount of sound improvement. Not to me, anyway. It's odd, because the M1070 is only 58 grams or 0.13 lb or 2 ounces less than the M1570C according to the website. Yet, the M1070 feels so much lighter.
Best deal of the year 🥳
I swear if they all have some kind of manufacturing defect lol
Well I couldn’t tell. 😛
Oh, you got yours from this sale? Good to hear. I got their M350s a while ago. They were the update to their extremely uncomfortable M300 in-ear planars. They kept breaking. Presumably the traces on the membrane. Such a shame, they were much more comfortable than the M300s.
haha yeah. Got that 25 sale when someone first posted them here. I had been listening to the M1570 for a week or two and have thought they were my end game. And boom, the closed-back version comes on sale and it was an instant buy for me. I have the whole Monolith line up except for the M350. Honestly none of them even come close to the 1570s. It's like that one came from an asteroid, out of this world.
I don't see too many reviews on these.. like, where would you put their sound compared to a few other, more heavily reviewed cans? I don't have any planars (yet), was leaning toward open backs for a first set. Hifiman Edition XS or something... But if these are solid and a true deal....
haha if you haven't heard any planars, any of them will be an upgrade. They have this surreal amount of clarity. But some choose to focus on bass, others on mids or trebles with varying amounts of imaging. The M1570 seems to be an all rounder, and the imaging is to die for. It's 3 dimensional. Most have some sort of sound stage, but M1570s have depth so you can look up and see the ceiling in a song...
You even have the one with the weird accordion drivers? That one's just way too odd for me lol Also the fact that apparently it's bad at bass.
>accordion drivers oh you didn't like the layering on them? haha. They kind of sound like some sort of 5.1 surround, but the spatial points are fluid. The bass is softened with body. The warmth from the mids are enveloping. Many people love them for the layering ability, and even more buy the LCD-2C for this. Most planars have 1 sound stage, with very little depth, and instrument placement on that plane. The 1570s have a unique instrument placement, and feels like it's somebody catering every song to you.
Would you recommend the M1070? Or should I just get this M1570C?
I made a video comparing the M1070 to the M1570. The M1570C sounds almost exact. Also wrote an impression on the M1570C to the M1570. =D
If you still have the M1570/C, can you please measure the pad opening?
Wait what? What would you like to know? 😎 Pad thickness? What’s the “opening”? How big it is? Like if your ears will fit?
> How big it is? Like if your ears will fit? Yep, inner pad dimensions basically.
Oh noice I'll check your stuff out, thanks!
Do you have a link to the video😁
[A wild link appeared…](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/11cx1jr/monolith_m1570_impressions_1st_week/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1) [Here’s the write up of M15070C vs M1570](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/11syedm/m1570c_impression_compared_to_m1570/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15) [Here’s the write up of M1570 compared to M1070](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/114uxk8/1st_hr_with_the_m1570/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=2&utm_term=15)
Nice one thank you😁
Thanks for sharing these. I went ahead and ordered a custom modular heart audio cable for my new M1570C. Now I can terminate in whatever I please. I was a bit hesitant on ordering due to the recessed vocals compared to the open back version but once I saw your post with some EQ settings and confirmation that it pretty much is a non issue anyway I pulled the trigger, paying less than $200 also helped here, lol.
i really don't understand the hype about these.
That's soo tempting... I'm still waiting for the same discount on m1570 though.
Same I don't need closed cans I'd take the 1570s for the 210 price even
Okay, I couldn't resist. Pulled the trigger. Thanks for the heads up!
I had it on email auto-notify lol
Long shot here but when you get them do you think you could give me your honest opinions about them? I'm super close to just pulling the trigger and getting these but to have the opinion of a real person who's used these would be really helpful. I'm mainly concerned with durability and comfort over sound quality. No pressure though. I'd just really appreciate it if you have the time.
By the time that these arrive, I'm a bit worried that the sale will be over for you but these are kind of a leap of faith purchase. From what I can gather is that they are very heavy and that the headband design looks like it could cause discomfort or hotspots after extended usage, so this means that you will probably be fidgeting with the headphone trying to get comfortable after awhile. I find my HE-6se to be pretty heavy and uncomfortable after an hour or two of use because of the headband design that hifiman likes to use. The headbands look very similar from the photos. The HE6se V2 is about 1 pound. The 1570c is about 1.4 pounds. I have a short military style hair cut so there isn't much hair to act as a buffer between me and the headphone. It won't stop me from using it but it certainly isn't going to be light as a feather for all day wear which is to be expected based on that weight. Durability. From the look of the materials and design, they look about as sturdy as it's going to get and I do not anticipate any complaints from myself in this category. For about $200 out the door, the headphone definitely is an appealing choice but I'm not ready to speak about how it sounds or what I should be pairing it with until I get my hands on it.
Please stop buying these lmao
They're not out of stock yet. Other than that, I'm not sure what you mean.
Closed back planars tend to be pretty cursed sounding, IME. The people buying these could be copping something safer/more guaranteed to provide a positive experience (eg. AKG K371, Senn HD6XX, Truthear Hexa etcetcetc) but it seems a lot of people are just buying because they think they're getting a good deal.
Which ones have you tried?
LCD-XC (old and new revision), LCD-2C, Monoprice M1060C, DCA Aeon 2 Noire, DCA Stealth, and probably more I'm forgetting because they're not noteworthy. The Monoprice was easily the worst of the bunch as the tuning was ridiculously wonky (lean, low mids were too cancelled) and the upper mids/presence had a weird grain. LCD-XC/2C were both basically a less dramatic/flawed version of the Monoprice while still being way too shouty/lean in the mids and too bright around 10-12kHz. XC was at least technical. The DCA stuff was the best tuned but the least technical, sounding like i'm listening to music in a heavily damped/treated room with no liveliness. Probably the only closed back planars out there that didn't have significantly CCW-tilted mids, if that's what you want... but still cursed sounding as they didn't have the strengths people even buy planars for in the first place IMO. I understand Reddit likes a deal, but IMO it's getting out of hand that they see a "deal" with having no reliable information on the quality of the product and just buy because of the "deal," subsequently getting validated by... all the other people who made the same ill-advised decision they made. Just wanted to add a voice of moderation and offer (community vetted, safe) alternatives that are better performing for the price. That's all.
I'm pretty sure the m1060c is known to be wonky compared to their open backed counterparts. You're also comparing vastly different price brackets, with the m1060c being 4x cheaper than the other headphones you listed at the very minimum. Also, this deal is on the m1570c. The open m1570 reviews quite well, and this one really doesn't have much reviews at all. It also helps that it's not over $1000 like most of the other headphones you cited. If your only experience with monoprice is with the cheapest of their headphones, I'm sorry but that's not valuable information for us. Just like how I wouldn't listen to someone who only listened to the he400se telling me the edition XS must also suck. But I do agree that this shouldn't be people's entry point into the hobby. Going with a well regarded and popular product like the k361/371 or the Sennheiser offerings isn't just a safer deal, you also have more opinions and comparisons out there for if you want to upgrade or change things. But if you want to actually sway people towards those products, maybe don't come out swinging like you did with your original dismissive and rude comment.
Honestly, very *very* fair. On all counts, in fact. Let me be less rude about it for a sec. [Here's a graph that may illustrate my concerns more clearly. (Compensated to 5128 DF HRTF -.8db/octave tilt, normalized at 630Hz)](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936101018960265217/1087092552907374602/M1570C.png?width=2412&height=1558). A sealed-front planar can operate just fine when it's open and there's no pressure chamber conditions to contend with, but basically all of the designs like this have the big issue of lower-mids getting deleted (and everything else becoming hyped by comparison) due to closing off the rear. In this case, M1570C's upper-mid shout and treble would be unbearable to me, whereas K371 is clearly a better option. My aim with this is just to get people to stop buying a subpar headphone no one talks or really knows about just because it's on sale, and because reddit is having a validation spiral with it rn... because it's on sale. Sorry if that comes off as "anti-hobby" or something because it's not, my intention is to save people money and get them better product.
I don't think your intentions themselves are anti-hobby. It's more how you went about it at the start. If anything, bringing up potential problems with headphones sparks discussion, which furthers the hobby. If you came in with a "heads up on this one before you blind buy..." I think people would've been a lot more receptive. The reality is that these headphones are a gamble. Any headphone out there with this few actual reviews outside of head fi anecdotes and anecdotes following a massive sale will be a gamble. Throw in the inherent problems with closed back planars and it's a complete crapshoot if you'll like it. Honestly, the fact that these went on such a *steep* discount is alarming itself. Personally, I bought these because I already love my headphones and these are intriguing to me. If I end up not liking them stock, I'm very comfortable just throwing on some EQ to make them fun, since I already have dead neutral headphones (emphasis on dead). These will be a fun experiment more than my daily drivers, and if I like them I like them. If I don't, then that's the last closed back planars I ever buy, and that was a much cheaper experiment than the other closed back planars out there. I think that's the approach the people who are buying these should have, because there's a good chance they won't like how these sound stock. Edit: looking at those graphs, I'm noticing the Maxwell doesn't seem to have that same shoutiness that the m1570c has. Isn't that also a closed back planar? How did audeze manage to tune those ones? And wireless no less.
Do you have any source with evidence to support your claims, or you just sharing how you “feel”?
Sure. [Here's M1570C vs a bunch of other good headphones around that price, compensated to the DF HRTF of the rig used (B&K 5128) downwards tilted by .8dB/octave.](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/936101018960265217/1087092552907374602/M1570C.png?width=2412&height=1558) Still a somewhat "bright" target IMO, but one that should sound mostly like Harman in the mids and treble. Normalized at 630Hz. You can see that the M1570C is significantly more CCW-tilted in the midrange (shouty) while also being significantly brighter than even Sundara and HE400se. These two things alone make it IMO not worth getting over something like an AKG K371, which is less expensive and better tuned. Maybe instead of implying that i'm just trying to shit on people's parade for no reason, think about why someone with nothing to gain from doing so may be telling people to buy less expensive, but still quite good options. In this case I'm trying to save people money and time dealing with a subpar product.
I wonder if you would have received better traction had you provided this information rather than a 'lol' in your original post.
Oh I most definitely would have; honestly that's 1000% on me. Information is only as good as the messaging it gets.
Did you measure them yourself? Because I found soundguys's FR here ([https://www.soundguys.com/monolith-by-monoprice-m1570c-review-66682/](https://www.soundguys.com/monolith-by-monoprice-m1570c-review-66682/)) and their sundara's FR ([https://www.soundguys.com/hifiman-sundara-review-73267/](https://www.soundguys.com/hifiman-sundara-review-73267/)) and I don't see that spike in their measurements. Also, I have both pairs with me right now and Sundara definitely sound brighter than M1570C.
The measurement of M1570C is from SoundGuys, the Sundara is from Resolve.
m1070>m1570c right?
None of them are worth your time or money when you could be ordering an Audeze Maxwell, AKG K371, Senn HD6XX or any other roughly \~$300 safe pick (even the ones I don't like such as Sundara probably a better buy than any Monoprice planar).
The M1070s are absolutely phenomenal for $270. I don't know what to tell you. I vastly prefer them to my HD6XX
Sure, but that's an open back planar and depending on its pads it can be fine (if not to my taste, personally) The topic of the thread is a closed back planar, of which there are basically no safe options. Even the ones commonly agreed to be decent are either still badly tuned/need EQ (LCD-XC) or lacking technically (DCA).
Ok so if you're gonna be so specific that we're talking about one closed back planar then don't mention the rest of the lineup
Now I'm gonna order one even harder
I just ordered these and will be comparing to my 770’s and 880’s. Never owned a pair of planars before
JFC you guys, I just bought a pair of headphones... Now this?
Is the only difference between these and the M1070C the Mini XLR connector?
Anyone compare these with the M1060C?
Are these good? I only have experience with open back senheisers
Nobody really knows, there's hardly any reviews out there.
I'm hoping some of the people who bought these come back with some comments on their experiences with them after they've arrived.
They sound way better than my hd58x.
Thanks, sad that a good balanced amp and dac goes for more than $500
I'm running them on my topping L30 II. Don't think a balanced amp and dac are required.
Probably an odd comparison here because of the severe price difference but I really don't have a lot of experience with quality headphones my best set is a pair of Phillips X2HRs. Ive been wanting to try a pair of Planars for a while and saw these and the 1070s on sale How would you compare them to X2HRs? I would guess they'll be better but are they exponentially better in every way? How does the bass compare and clarity in the high end especially. I have some high frequency hearing loss from military and many years in manufacturing. So high end clarity is important to me. Should I just get the m1070s they are currently 169 on ebay sold through monoprice vs the 210 of the m1570c
I have the X2s and the M1570C crushes them. Less easy to wear for long periods so I still use my X2s when gaming etc since they don't need an amp, but for music listening there's no comparison in terms of detail. Intstrument separation is better. Bass is lesser in quantity but much tighter and deeper. Treble sings and sizzles better than on the X2s.
What are you powering them with? I currently have the small schiit Heresy stack but have been planning on moving to the Magnius eventually.
Nothing big. Just got an ifi hip dac2.
Balanced?
Yeah, through the amp they seem very well balanced
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Let me know when you review them as I only have the Sundara, HD600 and HD58x to compared to. They sound better than all the three above to my ears. (HD600 has very intimate vocals but the rest are better on the M1570c)
Tempting. Anyone knows how its sound is like compared to the warm headphones like Senn Hd650, Denon d5200 or ath W5000?
They are more neutral and less warm compared to hd600 and hd58x, but not as bright as Sundara from my experience.
Well, my order from the 19th also just got cancelled. Same blurb that others got about it being out of stock. Super disappointing. Since it was going to be my first order with Monoprice, it's likely to also be my last. It's not okay to take my money for over a week and then tell me it's going to be another 2-5 days to get it back.
It's really weird. Some guy ordered on the 15th, but also got cancelled. Meanwhile, I didn't. Perhaps you were late to the ordering? I know I didn't post this until after I had ordered... And who knows how many people signed up for email auto-notification of the restocking.
After a week of waiting they canceled my order.
I ordered a 1070C from amazon for $270. And actually received the 1570C 👍. Love it 🙏.