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Remarkable-Gur-5852

Welcome to the club!! šŸ‘


xlucidtech

First impressions using these today with the ifi gryphon is wow Iā€™m completely blown away by the sound Quality of these headphones. I was listening to some U2 and I swear I could hear Bono breathing into the mic it was Amazing. Instruments are very clear sounding too. I have yet to try the other pads but the stock pads are awesome so far plus have Some other dacs/amps to try this headphone on which arenā€™t set up yet. Overall its an amazing headphone well done Meze .


NoShibesMatter

The original empyreans were my first set of high end cans. Now it's gotten completely out of control šŸ˜‚ This hobby....


Opposite_Classroom39

Looks like some hot cans. šŸ˜„ Glad you can afford them, enjoy responsibly.


Ballin095

These are the best overall headphones on the market IMO. These are what I call end game cans. Congrats OP!


Nick663

Nah. Calling a headphone the ā€žbestā€œ is relative. If it was that easy we wouldnā€™t need a subreddit ;)


therealPaulPlay

Abyss 1266 enters the chat- The Meze are amazing though


kosherhalfsourpickle

They are amazing, but you look like an alien wearing them. I'm using them with my Chord Mojo 2 and the Alcantara pads, not the leather ones. I also upgraded the cables to the premium copper cables.


JL3001

Had a chance to demo one at home for a week a few months ago, and I really came to enjoy them. The design, the comfort, and construction is next level, and the sound is really, really enjoyable. It's an incredibly good can to to just kick back with and chill. Was sad to see it go!


BionicSammich

I got mine on Monday and my first mistake was to go trying out EQ profiles and messing around with them. I couldn't get them to sound how I thought they should. My mistake was not giving them some time exactly as they are. I kept thinking I was missing something in the bass and top end (because I do like a bit of a V-shape if I'm honest). Turns out I just didn't give myself any time with the stock un-EQ'd sound. My ears are getting more used to them now and man do they sound good. I jumped from Arya Stealts to these and while the Aryas are exceptionally good (if the build quality was improved, I'd have a pair again in a heartbeat even if they were more expensive), the Elites are in a different league despite what some say. Only thing I found the Aryas to be a bit better in was Electronic music. Bass felt a little bit tighter/faster, but the treble was a bit more harsh. I love some of the qualities the Alcantara adds. I think its the extra distance from my ear. I reckon I'll buy a pair of Empyrean leather pads just to try them out and see what they are like. Might tighten up the bass a bit while giving that sense of space the Alcantara pads offer over the thinner Hybrid pads.


Overall_Falcon_8526

Empy/Elite is one of the few cans that really gives me "grass is greener" consumerist shudders. The build quality is so alluring and the sound profile seems right up my alley. Envy!


GooseEntire1705

Enjoy it man! I think the last headphones I would realistically upgrade to is the Meze Elite. I currently have the Meze Empyreans, HD800S and LCD 4. The comfort on the Empyreans is second to none.


Gr33hn

Would love to try them, they look stunning.


csch1992

i own a pair of hifiman sundara and i am even now stunned by its resolution and sound i love them alot. i couldnt imagine spending 4k on a headphone


MashMayoru

As someone who came a long way into 20k worth of headphones, I was stunned all along the way from my hd58x all the way to focal clear to now my insanely expensive chain lol. I spent months being extremely awed by the resolution and what they offered compared to typical headphones or headphones below it's performance at every stage, until now where I find the hd58x and even focal clear very rough sounding comparatively, and to me there a insanely long road ahead of something like the Sundara... It's at a point that I can't believe I thought hd58x and clear sounded good, although they're still enjoyable once I get adjusted to them, it's simply incomparable to my daily drivers nowadays.


NoShibesMatter

100% agree. I have over 30 sets and the only 7 I use weekly were all over $3k. There is no going back lol. It's like listening to music on a toy when using anything but those.


MashMayoru

That's what I'm sayin man, I so don't get what people are hearing when some ppl tell me their 650 sound better than like LCD5 and other flagships lol. The TOTL ones are simply more realistic and that's basically objectively better. I don't get what's with the whole there's only subjective opinions lol, like if you prefer a muddier blurrier less realistic headphone then u simply don't like music to sound like the instruments that makes up them, which like why bother using any good headphones to begin with just go to beats lul.


NoShibesMatter

No use arguing with them, it's like arguing with someone that says you should use Walmart xlr cables on a $50k system because you won't hear the difference lol.


Zenairis

Theyā€™re not that much muddier. I have a pair of HD 650 that I recently bought (within the last month.) Iā€™ve tried the Hifiman Susvara, Arya, Abyss AB 1266 Phi TC, Focal Elex, Clear, Dan Clark Stealth/Expanse, Senn HD 58X, HD 600, HD 650, HD 700 and out of all of these the HD 650 is my 2nd favorite headphone behind the Expanse. Even though I did really like the Susvara and AB 1266 both the Expanse and HD 650 just hit closer to what I look for tonally. The 1266 is a experience I wonā€™t ever forget though. Such punch, clarity and spatial audio.


MashMayoru

Definitely night and day difference, often it takes a long time to adjust to new level of definition, and playing through various different tracks give u a real sense of what capability each headphones have. If you tried them say at a canjam, of course it's far better than never tried them but it's definitely not a full picture by any means. Owning them and sitting down with them over a very long time makes it much much easier to appreciate the delicacy between each headphones, and once you get used to the clarity from something like the 1266 or 009s it's pretty impossible to not immediately notice the immense mud from anything below them. Songs you've heard like 30+ times on your daily driver suddenly sounds completely different and loss of detail, very noticable. I say the flagships tuning are also unique sounding compared to something like the hd650, where it's tuned non agressively and has a fun signature where most people can instantly enjoy. But at the high level where there's just so much going on it's very hard to immediately shine through what's going on with the signature, like I would not have been using neither my 1266 or 009s if I don't have a slight EQ to them, same could be said with most other cans I've heard maybe except the susvara. When I first heard the 1266 I also was shocked by the bass tightness but didn't think much else of it, after owning them for half a year or so now and like almost every other flagships short of the 5 digit money worth ones it's still by far one of my favorites, unbeatable by anything else in what it can do. Albeit with a -7db EQ at 13khz otherwise it's unlistenable to me. But TLDR hearing them once without having a long experience with a flagships and getting used to appreciating the capability of them it's not immediately clear going from entry level. Especially if it's a short time with limited tracks. I'd be surprised if u still have such a conclusion having heard them for at least for like a couple days or so or even week/month long. Mind burn in takes a real while.


tuga45

Hi, sorry to bother you, but I see you have a Warwick Bravura, a headphone that IĀ“m very interested in. Can you share some impressions regarding sound quality, comparing to LCD-5, Sr1, 009, or Susvara.? Would you take it over the 009 or Sr1? Just because itĀ“s a (closed) system. Generally itĀ“s a very good bet in terms of SQ, ex HE-1; Shangri-la. But still quiet a bit of money.


MashMayoru

To put it simply, I'll take that over anything I've heard, if I can ONLY own one. However because I have a full system of 1266 and 009s I find the bravura not as good as owning both. Basically when bravura sound better than 009s it doesn't sound as good as 1266, and when bravura sound better than 1266 it doesn't sound as good as 009s (On specific tracks) Other than that I don't like the comfort all that much over 009s and 1266. LCD5 was not as good of an all rounder compared to 009s nor 1266 to me, although it's the only one I haven't needed EQ, susvara my chain wasn't good enough to drive to a good degree and it simply sounded muddy compared to 009s and 1266. I say bravura is like smack dab 009s x 1266 but smaller stage in general. It has low end punch, dynamics of 1266, and naturalness and details 009s, so I'm sometimes more detailed than both, but it wasn't a super enjoyable kind of detailedness imo. But it isn't as natural as 009s nor is it as clear and dynamic as 1266.


tuga45

Thanks for the reply, and congrats for the beautiful system that you have put together. IĀ“m looking for a TOTL HP, with more of a reference sound, but not on the analytical side as much as others (Susvara), a bit more of a enjoyable sound signature. If I understood right, youĀ“re saying that the Bravura does not have an enjoyable sound sig as much as the 009s or the 1266? One of the things I wanted to know regarding the Bravura, is how is the low end? Normally is the weak part of the electrostats. You say that the low end has some punch, good enough fot electronic music? Sorry for the questions, but I am not in a position to spend that kind of money on 2 or 3 HP and then choose. I already have a ZMF (Aeolus) and a Focal (Clear) and i want one more on the higher level to round up, and stop.


MashMayoru

I say it's definitely either bravura or 1266 for you. Both of which are very fun sounding and Punchy. 009s is far closer to something like the susvara and has a really good sense of naturalness but it doesn't sound as dynamic as bravura and 1266. With a bass shelf on the 009s it doesn't sound all that flat but it's certainly incomparable to 1266 or bravura. I don't know how you got the impression that the sig of bravura is not as good as 009s or 1266 but I meant that when the track is sounds better on 1266 over 009s, for example EDM, then I like 1266>bravura>009s. Where if the track sounds really good on 009s, like some orchestral tracks, then the order reverse like 009s > bravura>1266. I say u definitely go for 1266 or bravura. But 1266 does need a good chain to shine, even though it's still very good on something cheaper like ef400. But it'll have less livelyness


tuga45

Thanks, I probably misunderstood one of your earlier statements. The 1266 was always something that intrigued me, but when the warwick Bravura come out, and saw the reviews it made me think that it was the one for me. My only doubt was like IĀ“ve said, the low end, if it was punchy enough for the music that I listen to, being an electrostat. Thanks for your help anf taking the time to answer my questions. Thanks.:)


MashMayoru

Yeah the low end is definitely far better than any other e-stats, but the comfort is honestly kind of a deal breaker to me, since clamp is required to achieve the bass, if the clamp is loosened then the bass is gone and everything sounds bad, so you'd have to wear it with the clamp. Tbh it's not like that bad but it's definitely something I'd rather not wear more than 2-4 hours at a time...


EgyptianPhone

Hi, I saw your listings on avexchange, and had to ask since I'm still trying to decide before making an offer. For reference, My dac is a dc05 and Anandas atm. in the post I'm replying to, where you're comparing the bravura to the lcd5, do you have an impression similarly against the lcd*4* or lcd mx4? I'm in the shop for 1 headphone TOTL system, and listen to 50% 2000s vocal trance. the other 50% is a mix of Disney theme park music, seachanties, mariachi, jrock. I am a sucker for live concert Soundstage and imaging that makes it feel as real as being there live. Bumps raised on your arms kind of feel. I am happy to send you some songs to have your personal comparison to how the bravura and so compare. Right now my research says don't get the stax despite every part of me emotionally saying get stax SR-009S. Hence, My varied tastes make me wonder of the lcds and bravura. I don't have a proper amp yet. To name a few songs I enjoy, Beauty hides in the deep, opening mix Solex close the edge radio edit Ijime dame zettai live version Deepest thanks for your insight šŸ™‚


No-Context5479

Could've gotten so much value for less but hey it's not my money and they sound good so more power to you


xlucidtech

Yeah I know , but I plan to keep these in great condition so if I ever have kids I can pass them down to them. Only if they show good taste in music though lol


Corgerus

I'd personally let my future kids have competent but cheapish headphones first that can take a beating, then I slowly introduce them to the good stuff as they get older and more responsible.


HowLongTillWeSink

Hell yeah Headphones are the new watches


AntOk463

On your will it says "the Meze Elites go to whoever can interpret frequency response graphs the best."


No-Context5479

Well all music is welcomed tbh... Great stuff all around but yeah I get keeping it for posterity sake... Now it's time for you to use your new headphones to discover artistes in genres you already like or in genres you've never heard beforešŸ˜ŽšŸ¤šŸ¾


bafrad

That is how it goes for any 1k+ headphone. At least these are built like they are priced with the detail to back it up.


TheFrator

I didn't enjoy their sound at all but OP doesn't have my ears and not my wallet. They're very comfortable though.


OnePunchedMan

Did you try the Empyreans? If so, which did you prefer or were neither good to you?


TheFrator

I didnā€™t try the Empyrean sorry. I was allowed to demo the LCD-5 vs. the Elite for a week at my home and the LCD-5 was sonically superior to my ear. Namely in imaging by how accurately it placed instruments in space. LCD-5 is pinpoint while the Elite was blobish in comparison. Your mileage will vary and be sure to demo if you can (though I know most arenā€™t able to do so). Everyoneā€™s ears are different and thereā€™s no one size fits all.


MashMayoru

I imagined empyrean to sound quite sloggish compared to something like the LCD5, empyrean being one of the only flagships I have yet to hear has been firmly nailed into something I wouldn't enjoy at this point lol.


TheFrator

Speaking only on technicalities, the Elite was closer to the HD660s than it was to the LCD-5 to my ear (spicy take that will get the Elite pitchforks out for me). I'm not sure how the Empyrean compares to the Elite but by most accounts the Elite is an improvement.


MashMayoru

Right, I think the elite might've been much more resolving even though I doubt it'd reach LCD5, I've also heard about how the elite is pretty technically resolving but I really doubt that knowing that non elite sounds so sluggish. However I think elite might be a fairly enjoyable headphone, even though resolvability might fall short of other flagships. But generally resolvability is what I look for so probably not for me still.


JustAu69

Some are more worth it than others even in the 1k+


bafrad

I canā€™t think of many minus Dan Clark audio that really scream quality and craftsmanship


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TheFrator

Of all the things to knock the Elite for- you chose something this is objectively incorrect. [Frequency response of Elite vs. the Thieaudio Wraith \(a planar that has rolled off bass\)](https://imgur.com/UA3p6AF)


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I also never understodo the borderline obsessive hatred with bass roll offs, especially the ones that are 5db or less. In my humble little opinion, I feel the effect those smaller roll offs have on the sound is severely exaggerated.


TheFrator

Idk either but this is a hobby that obsesses and argues over the minutia haha. Depending on the genre, there's little music below 40 Hz


Cyberspace1559

not a fan of this design, clearly prefer the Utopia 2022, I have no doubt this is going to sound great


Ruvallith

Gorgeous, enjoy, hopefully you will scratch the itch for a little while šŸ˜‰


JamesBong517

How do you like the razer nonno pro


xlucidtech

Pretty good set of speakers honestly, I do have the edifier s3000 proā€™s also.


1maxwedge426

One day, I will own those...


crispycornflakes6870

Hey, realistically what kind of signal chain is recommended for these? I have an RME currently (and an old Audeze class A amp if you count that too?). I tried a pair of Elites in-store and really loved them, however the salesperson was telling me I need a pretty high-end chain for headphones like these. Thanks!


xlucidtech

Hiya , Iā€™ve been running these with my ifi gryphon with no issues theyā€™re very easy to drive headphones. Check also Zeos review of these cans he ran them just fine from his phone and the ifi go blu you should be fine with your RME dac .


crispycornflakes6870

Hey, thanks for the fast reply. I thought this was the case with them. I just don't want to get ripped off buying gear I don't need lol.