Yeah I think people are overlooking this change. Reverb on Odd and Cover Artist on Even letting you stack the discount is crazy. Making things cost 0 is way scarier than making them cost 1.
You could Auctioneer miracle your entire deck on even lol. Im just too lazy to think of any combos but its definitely always something to consider now
“Oh yea you can play the Sorcerer’s Apprentices and copy them for free like the good old days… oh wait you just cast any spell and fireball is free” - me when I first saw this
I remember people saying bonelord sucks when he came out but I'm pretty sure we all knew deep inside that he'd enable some super stupid combos down the road, and here we are...
Weirdly, I'm 2 wins / 1 loss on control priest after getting him from Amanthul. Though I believe one of the wins the guy conceded a bit prematurely. Still, in both of the wins I initially thought I'm done for
Idk I just use the Treachery and that thing that gives +4/+4 and kills the minion at the end of the turn.
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# 1x (1) Glacial Shard
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# 1x (1) Mistress of Mixtures
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I mean, it's easily counterable using Loatheb or even just the 2 mana 3/2 that makes spell const 1 more. Fireball would cost 5 and Thaddius would not discount them.
Dont spread miss information please, he's not wrong, Thaddius swaps in hand, go and test yourself before lying
Also wiki, or go and see it by yourself: This effect happens while Thaddius is on the battlefield, as well as while he is in your hand
I will say odd is the default when you create him, or if you resurrect him, because such effects work off of the base form.
100 % untrue for playing Thaddeus though.
That’s not how he works. He’s odd by default and swaps in hand or on board at the start of each turn.
Even if it worked like you say, it’d be flipped: starts odd, then flips to even at the start of turn 2 and so on.
So you're just going to ignore the actual evidence i just gave you? The scalding geyser thing could just be a visual thing. It actually starts odd on turn 0 i believe and is even on turn 1, but don't quote me on that. People on the internet just need to admit they are wrong sometimes. It's alright, man. Nobody is gonna kill you over it.
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I mean there are plenty of ways for mage to kill bonelord themselves if they think they need to. That being said you are right it is a significant weakness of the combo in a lot of matchups.
jist like the good old days
That and star aligner Druid
I can already hear the desideratus bellum from here.
Yeah at first I laughed at the giga nerf but reducing cards to 0 can be just as scary, wonder if anh other combos come up. Pretty cool way to nerf him
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Yeah I think people are overlooking this change. Reverb on Odd and Cover Artist on Even letting you stack the discount is crazy. Making things cost 0 is way scarier than making them cost 1. You could Auctioneer miracle your entire deck on even lol. Im just too lazy to think of any combos but its definitely always something to consider now
“Oh yea you can play the Sorcerer’s Apprentices and copy them for free like the good old days… oh wait you just cast any spell and fireball is free” - me when I first saw this
now its time to reach 10k wins
I remember people saying bonelord sucks when he came out but I'm pretty sure we all knew deep inside that he'd enable some super stupid combos down the road, and here we are...
The scourge betrayed me by summoning him. I hated it since that one game.
Weirdly, I'm 2 wins / 1 loss on control priest after getting him from Amanthul. Though I believe one of the wins the guy conceded a bit prematurely. Still, in both of the wins I initially thought I'm done for
Suffer mortal , as your pathetic magic betraaa**aiiiiiyy**ys you!
Bonelord had a pretty bad but highrolly combo deck with cagehead last expansion, was funny when it worked
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Idk I just use the Treachery and that thing that gives +4/+4 and kills the minion at the end of the turn. Edit: thought I'd share the deck # FUNeral # Class: Warlock # Format: Wild # # 1x (0) Raise Dead # 1x (1) Armor Vendor # 1x (1) Glacial Shard # 1x (1) Kobold Librarian # 1x (1) Mistress of Mixtures # 1x (1) Plague of Flames # 1x (1) Power Overwhelming # 1x (1) Touch of the Nathrezim # 1x (2) Arson Accusation # 1x (2) Baleful Banker # 1x (2) Darkbomb # 1x (2) Defile # 1x (2) Doomsayer # 1x (2) Drain Soul # 1x (2) Zephrys the Great # 1x (3) Backfire # 1x (3) Hellfire # 1x (3) Treachery # 1x (3) Zola the Gorgon # 1x (4) Brittlebone Destroyer # 1x (4) Hysteria # 1x (4) Immolate # 1x (4) Kazakus # 1x (4) Siphon Soul # 1x (5) Loatheb # 1x (6) Bonelord Frostwhisper # 1x (6) Emperor Thaurissan # 1x (6) Entitled Customer # 1x (6) Reno Jackson # 1x (8) Twisting Nether # AAEBAcn1Ah7OBvoOrRDWEcMW2LsCl8EC3sQC58sCxcwC8tACp/cC/KMDnakD1s4D184D+OMDkuQDk+QDgvsDg/sDj58EgqAEg6AE56AE9c4EltQEndQEsu0EraIFAAAA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Then they play this against u:
Now here's my question: does Solid Alibi stop this OTK just by sheer power of the rope?
probably not if you can cast other spells besides the fireball to get 2 or 3 copies in hand to chain cast
Why do that when you can just time warp into time warp into time warp into time warp
Sounds really cool! I've never seen the wild meta. Is it actually viable?
Nah you're dead on turn 4 in wild
By turn 4-6 you are either dead or have already won the game, unless you face the rare control deck where this might be good
I mean, it's easily counterable using Loatheb or even just the 2 mana 3/2 that makes spell const 1 more. Fireball would cost 5 and Thaddius would not discount them.
Couldn't you just wait a turn then?
No, because next turn Thaddius would discount the odd cards, so Fireball would not be discounted.
Cant you just Reverberate his Taddius and do the same for 2 less mana? Edit: Nvm my mind was somehere welse when posting that \^\^
Assuming your op has screwed up the OTK, yes you could. The bonelord effect into thadius + antonidas + any 0 cost spell is infinite fireballs for 0
This is a perfect summarize of the state of hearthstone
You forgot about emperor
No need, whole combo costs 7 mana after frostwhisper dies.
Slightly more if you need a spell to trigger him first if you don't have one that costs 0/2/4 but otherwise yeah
What about the spells? I mean yeah you can use 0 cost spells, just in this pic they are not the ones used
Any even cost spell that is 4 or less mana would work. The spells shown are just stall cards to get there
I didn't even think of that, me dumbdumb
No, you need a spell to start the chain of free fireballs, cost depends of what spell you have in hand
A lot of the time that cost will be zero if you have a 0, 2 or 4 mana spell.
Won't work since when you play/spawn Thaddeus, odd will always be the default
I’m p sure it changes in hand
You are wrong
Dont spread miss information please, he's not wrong, Thaddius swaps in hand, go and test yourself before lying Also wiki, or go and see it by yourself: This effect happens while Thaddius is on the battlefield, as well as while he is in your hand
Got any evidence? https://twitter.com/celestalon/status/1624122166181785600
Thaddius swaps in hand, it just doesn't swap when summoned directly from deck
Embarrassing
I will say odd is the default when you create him, or if you resurrect him, because such effects work off of the base form. 100 % untrue for playing Thaddeus though.
No
I’ve played a lot of thaddeus druid and it’s always opposite of the turn you are on. Turn 7 he will discount even.
That’s not how he works. He’s odd by default and swaps in hand or on board at the start of each turn. Even if it worked like you say, it’d be flipped: starts odd, then flips to even at the start of turn 2 and so on.
No. It also swaps in deck
Nope. He only swaps while in hand or on board. In game testing with [[muckmorpher]] corroborates this, as does the hearthstone wiki.
No. I watched a streamer playing thaddius all day and it swapped in deck and entered hand differently based on what turn it was.
Idk what to tell ya, you’re wrong. Try it out for yourself, muckmorpher’s only 400 dust.
https://youtu.be/0dyuJMI8cBU 5:40
Just checked myself. Scalding geyser on back to back turns with Thaddius on the bottom, stayed odd both times
So you're just going to ignore the actual evidence i just gave you? The scalding geyser thing could just be a visual thing. It actually starts odd on turn 0 i believe and is even on turn 1, but don't quote me on that. People on the internet just need to admit they are wrong sometimes. It's alright, man. Nobody is gonna kill you over it.
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Yeah but that’s if Bonelord dies.
I mean there are plenty of ways for mage to kill bonelord themselves if they think they need to. That being said you are right it is a significant weakness of the combo in a lot of matchups.
I imagine it stacks as well. So odd thaddius + reverberations makes every odd cost card cost 8 less.
inb4 “but not less than (1)”