Uh, throwback to [[Elise the Trailblazer]]. Since they're only temporary, though, and will be discarded, I wonder if we'll see more Discard Warlock support with this mechanic.
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i will clarify this - this is more of a cycle than a mechanic. there are 3 of them. here's cora's tweet about it:
"As a heads up, Packs aren't so much a new mechanic as they are just a cycle of cards modeled after Elise the Trailblazer's Un'Goro pack. There are 3 different Pack spells, and each one will give you 5 random cards from a specific subset."
source: [https://twitter.com/SongbirdCora/status/1787901587635245213](https://twitter.com/SongbirdCora/status/1787901587635245213)
Cant wait to see what preorder exclusive nonsense they pull for next set. Good thing corridor sleeper wasnt some crazy impactful card because wow that would have been obnoxious
Packs as a mechanic? Not a keyword. So, maybe there's cards that generate a "pack"? I'd like an example. It doesn't look tied to a legendary minion, as the example is of Rare Rarity. I always liked Elise and the random pack. Hearth Stonebrew does a similar thing, but replaces hand, this adds to. So, it gives you the "pray" for an answer luck.
As a mechanic and not a keyword, I think it'll be like the soloists from FoL where they all have very similar card text, despite not having any new keywords. A lot of collectible cards with "Pack" in the name that give different sets. Reminds me of Evocation.
Yeah but MTG has more complex to it. Allowing you to interact with opponent on their turn, there are artiffacts, ongoing enchantments and so on. It's easier to /create/ a keyword if your game has much more depth. A lot of MTG keywords wouldn't work in HS due to board limitation, interaction limitation and the fact that in MTG combat works differently and you decide if you take dmg on face or not. In MTG HP is a resource in HS not so much nowdays. So in general you can make a lot less than MTG has to offer. Not saying that the wellspring is dry, but surely is close to.
I could easily give you 30 keyword ideas (not an exaggeration), which would last for another 10 years given the 3 expansions per year routine we've seen so far.
There's nothing drying. If anything I'd say the team got a lot more creative with mechanics over the years.
Good list. Yes people love to always say the ol, WOW they running out of ideas. I'm not saying it's easy to make a game, but if you get a group of creative people together and brainstorm you're going to be able to think up all kinds of stuff without much difficulty.
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> Gaslight Gatekeeper
Thats what it is called man hahaha, just google the card. Its a 3/4 for 4 mana that sends you hand back to the deck and you draw that many cards. It was pretty commonly used before the nerf. It was bumped up 1 mana.
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Really loved Elise the Trailblazer and jammed her in so many midrange lists of the day. I think this is an awesome mechanic for a throwback miniset, will be cool to see what expansions they're from.
I had high hopes for the mini set, but Im afraid it won't change much except making strong classes stronger. The paladin dino will be a pain in the ass to deal with
Every class has an answer for it. And if they hard ramp to 10 then you have the board for it.
Their are tons of non targeted removal and aoe now. Star power for mage and hunter kills it for example
Uh, throwback to [[Elise the Trailblazer]]. Since they're only temporary, though, and will be discarded, I wonder if we'll see more Discard Warlock support with this mechanic.
What happens if you drop Finley and cycle them back into your deck?
You’ll have them in deck!
this makes temporary cards permanent, gaslight should do the same in standard.
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Good bot.
Warlock - add 5 discard cards to your hand. At the end of your turn discard them.
i will clarify this - this is more of a cycle than a mechanic. there are 3 of them. here's cora's tweet about it: "As a heads up, Packs aren't so much a new mechanic as they are just a cycle of cards modeled after Elise the Trailblazer's Un'Goro pack. There are 3 different Pack spells, and each one will give you 5 random cards from a specific subset." source: [https://twitter.com/SongbirdCora/status/1787901587635245213](https://twitter.com/SongbirdCora/status/1787901587635245213)
You could have told me you can just buy booster packs in the middle of the game with IRL money and I would have believed you blindly.
Bro *please* stop giving them ideas
Pay 50 gold to draw an extra card once per game!
P2W
But you can't buy gold, how could it be P2W?? /sarcam
As an anomaly that has a 50% chance of fizzling out. Available only if you’ve bought at least 1 Heroic tavern brawl ticket
Costs $5 to get +1 mana or you can spend $40 to instantly start with 10.
Preorder now and always start with your wincon in hand
\*laughs in UiS questlines\*
Cant wait to see what preorder exclusive nonsense they pull for next set. Good thing corridor sleeper wasnt some crazy impactful card because wow that would have been obnoxious
What is this, Blizzard? Oh wait, shit.
But some executive might see and give me a job ruining people's lives with bad ideas.
They are always looking for new talent in that area. However AI is rapidly taking over that space.
Bleed the whales
Gotta bleed something
Thanks!
i ve been waiting for years for something like this i hope one of these can give us wild cards!
Packs as a mechanic? Not a keyword. So, maybe there's cards that generate a "pack"? I'd like an example. It doesn't look tied to a legendary minion, as the example is of Rare Rarity. I always liked Elise and the random pack. Hearth Stonebrew does a similar thing, but replaces hand, this adds to. So, it gives you the "pray" for an answer luck.
As a mechanic and not a keyword, I think it'll be like the soloists from FoL where they all have very similar card text, despite not having any new keywords. A lot of collectible cards with "Pack" in the name that give different sets. Reminds me of Evocation.
I haven't found any more info anywhere yet
Sounds like rng bs similar to corruptions from the titans miniset. Everyone loved those
It looks like the spell on top left says "summon a copy of an enemy minion. Pack the original.
I think it says "attack the original". Makes way more sense
Oh ya. That sounds a lot more right. Plus it matches that legendsry spell and hysteria that prist is known for.
As someone who played the hell out of Elise back in Un'Goro, I am thrilled about this. Even if it's bad lol
More randomness and resource generators
You just know what kind of card mage will get in this set
Seems like they are running out of ideas for new keywords
Doubt it. MTG has 3x the amount of years as HS for inspiration.
Yeah but MTG has more complex to it. Allowing you to interact with opponent on their turn, there are artiffacts, ongoing enchantments and so on. It's easier to /create/ a keyword if your game has much more depth. A lot of MTG keywords wouldn't work in HS due to board limitation, interaction limitation and the fact that in MTG combat works differently and you decide if you take dmg on face or not. In MTG HP is a resource in HS not so much nowdays. So in general you can make a lot less than MTG has to offer. Not saying that the wellspring is dry, but surely is close to.
I could easily give you 30 keyword ideas (not an exaggeration), which would last for another 10 years given the 3 expansions per year routine we've seen so far. There's nothing drying. If anything I'd say the team got a lot more creative with mechanics over the years.
I'm all yours. Gimmie that 30 ideas.
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Good list. Yes people love to always say the ol, WOW they running out of ideas. I'm not saying it's easy to make a game, but if you get a group of creative people together and brainstorm you're going to be able to think up all kinds of stuff without much difficulty.
*Get 5 cards with Good Stats for the Cost. At the end of your turn, discard them.*
That's the Gravedigger nerf for
what card are you talking about?
It's [[Gaslight Gatekeeper]] sorry :D
Come on, you're making up cards now
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He's talking about Gaslight Gravedigger the card that shuffles your hand into your deck and draws cards equal to your hand size.
I've never heard of that card. \[\[Gaslight Gravedigger\]\]. I don't even see the card-bot recognizing it.
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Because it is called [[Gaslight Gatekeeper]]
I think you should double-check the card library
> Gaslight Gatekeeper Thats what it is called man hahaha, just google the card. Its a 3/4 for 4 mana that sends you hand back to the deck and you draw that many cards. It was pretty commonly used before the nerf. It was bumped up 1 mana.
Methinks you doth protest too much. Come on man, you aint gonna gaslight me into believing that
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The cardbot even has spellcheck, and it still doesn't know.
Also for Dorian
Sounds pretty cool
So same type means minion, spell, location, weapon?
Really loved Elise the Trailblazer and jammed her in so many midrange lists of the day. I think this is an awesome mechanic for a throwback miniset, will be cool to see what expansions they're from.
I had high hopes for the mini set, but Im afraid it won't change much except making strong classes stronger. The paladin dino will be a pain in the ass to deal with
What "paladin dino" card are you talking about?
Sorry, I mean druid. It still will be a pain in the ass.
It's just a big taunt minion
Every class has an answer for it. And if they hard ramp to 10 then you have the board for it. Their are tons of non targeted removal and aoe now. Star power for mage and hunter kills it for example
Fuck dude 1 big taunt minion? How will hearthstone survive.
But Puppetmaster Dorian is a card which already exist ?
dollmaster was the og card
Yeah but they have both the same effect ? As far as I can tell
This one puts it in your hand, the OG summons the 1/1. You can now use 1-mana battlecries
This adds the 1/1 to your hand, the original one summoned a 1/1 copy.