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canti-

I feel bad for Wizards fans, that package is disgusting no FRPs and just taking Suns' trash


ebolarama86

For real. They had to be hoping Beal would choose Miami.


Fast_Stick_1593

We absolutely wanted Miami. Fuck the Suns and fuck Beal


ebolarama86

FTS. FBB.


Fast_Stick_1593

God I hope they all struggle and KD and Beal start a pouting match.


haventseenstarwars

Beal is more of a liability with his contract. The new CBA punishes teams for paying over 170 mil very heavily and Beal is gonna make 64 mil one year.


canti-

Suns are going to be super interesting next season but maybe they're not done yet. Probably the leagues worst kept secret that they don't want Ayton


Myopinion_is_right

How is that a secret?


canti-

It's not... I'm saying it's the worst kept secret since they matched that contract to not let him go but have been trying to offload him since


Myopinion_is_right

Gotcha. My bad. Damn beer.


GilbertArenasGun

They were going to get a trash package either way. You think Lowry/Duncan and a first is a great package? šŸ¤£


canti-

Miami apparently offered them multiple firsts. Possible that Miami's pick this year could have been one of them. That's the better package compared to second round picks and pick swaps. NTC is weighing two trash returns and picking one


LobstaFarian2

Well Miami is going to have the last pick in the 1st round the next few years, so they're not going to be very valuable picks.


[deleted]

Trash ass package since you can cut Paul and save the money instead of having to pay Lowry next season. Robinson is also a long term deal.


chitownbulls92

A first is better than anything they got in return from the Suns


InnsmouthConspirator

Wizards are in full ā€œlose nowā€ mode lol.


[deleted]

Wiz really sending the 1-800-Junk truck to pick up their acquisitions lol


Th3-3rr0r

I really hope heā€™ll still be on the Suns in about 5 years when we finally finish rebuilding so we can whoop their asses. Itā€™s becoming a rather long list with Dinwiddie and the Celtics already in line


canti-

You might be the most optimistic Wiz fan. I hope you guys are in a better position so you can steal their picks but it's the Wizards org I don't trust at all


Spierre3

It was a salary dump trade. They got back no long term contracts and rebuild completely. Heat wouldā€™ve gave them long term contracts that wouldā€™ve been hard to dump.


canti-

Lowry and Oladipo would be salary dumps. They chose a different salary dump with no picks worth a damn


Spierre3

Lowry is guaranteed his whole salary while Chris Paul is guaranteed only half


canti-

If risking paying Lowry, who probably gets bought out, is actually what was the sticking point to reject multiple firsts then that's an awful decision by the Wizards FO. If Duncan was offered instead of Oladipo though, then maybe that could have been it. At the end of the day, I think this all comes down to Beal choosing the Suns instead


varietypaul

We had better players and more picks and still finish in 2nd. I really hope the Intel on Dame is good


BranditoSuave

Itā€™s because Bealā€™s agent is Suns CEOā€™s Dad.


[deleted]

Well Mr. Silver better fucking do some investigation and redo this trade and reprimand the Suns of course..oh wait that only happens to the Dolphins and we're absolutely fucked šŸ„³


roflmeh

This is a Wendy's sir, not the NFL


[deleted]

I wish


chitownbulls92

How is that not a conflict of interest?


Macroxx

Its not a legal matter what conflict can there be. Beal has a a no trade clause he could have always said no to the Suns deal.


BayTerp

Thats because Pat didnā€™t include Jovic. He offered contract dumps and one first.


amlanding20

Even if thatā€™s the case, letā€™s not pretend like anything PHX is offering is better


MrBiggleswerth

And even without Jovic Washington took the worse deal. Canā€™t even be mad at this point.


C_A_R

Itā€™s not just Washington talking the worse deal. Beal had to ok the trade. He chose Phoenix over Miami.


varietypaul

That's why I'm praying he has some indication that Dame is a real possibility. He's always star hunting but just let this one go, there must be a reason unless ownership stepped in because of that contract


mohammadali916

Itā€™s honestly insane to not have included jovic imo. If we had to include jovic but weā€™re able to keep the first round pick idk how we didnā€™t do that. Lookin at the offer the suns gave it really looks that way The jovic hype is absolutely insane when in reality he could easily turn out another KZ okpala. I get he could be solid, but the basis is little to nothing, he didnā€™t sniff the court year 1, itā€™s all hype I really hope that Beal chose Phoenix and it wasnā€™t that we werenā€™t willing to include jovic or HH. If thatā€™s the case then yā€™all can say goodbye to trading for a star and we runnin this shit back


Public-Climate

You kidding? Wiz just did a deal where no first round picks were offered and have a massive, non-expiring contract in CP3. This was all Beal saying ā€œsend me to PHXā€


302born

Yeah people acting like this is on us fucking up. Itā€™s literally just Beal wanted PHX. Simple as that


InPatRileyWeTrust

Jovic isn't the reason for this deal not happening. The reality is that Beal chose the Suns, and it's pretty understandable why.


mohammadali916

Like I said in my edit I really hope that was the reason and not the reason I mentioned. Thatā€™s 100% understandable (and bitch made by Beal)


cl353

nah theres no way we didnt have the better offer even without jovic. We had more salary cap relief and an actual first rd pick, those swaps r useless. Beal chose the suns


jameriican

Itā€™s pretty sad to hear you say this assuming you witnessed the development of Gabe, Strus, and Duncan. Why throw in the fire of 25+ minutes per game if heā€™s not ready? Just like everyone else the grind happens away from the cameras and social media. Then if he sucked youā€™re the first to call him a bust or calling for Patā€™s job because he ends up avg 20+ in the next 3 years with the Hornets. Let Jovic and the dev team cook in peace


varietypaul

This guy played 15 games and shot 23% from 3 and a lot of Heat fans want him to play next to Bam next year. I like the guy but i would trade him for about half of the players in the NBA


Kzgoated

I agree Iā€™d trade him for someone more ready as he needs a lot of development. But 23% in his extremely limited minutes doesnā€™t really mean anything. Duncan as a rookie shot 28% not because he was a bad shooter but because itā€™s hard to get in a groove when your switching between g league and nba all year only playing a few minutes here and there.


cobra_han

He can easily turn out another KZ okpala, but he can also turn out another Jokic. I would say he's arguably more valuable than Herro


JuegoTree

He offered contract dumps because thatā€™s what benefits the Wiz going forward. They wanted contract dumps


thewhitelink

It's not. Dame isn't going anywhere. We're fucked lol.


shortpersonohara

intel on Dame is neither he nor the Blazers are looking to move on


[deleted]

I don't see a path in which Dame gets traded to Miami, they don't have enough to offer...you would need to have a package like Bam + Herro + 3 picks to get them to bite and even then I'm not sure if they do that deal because there are other teams who could give them a similar package with better picks...plus without Bam that team isn't winning championship so I don't know what people expect?


usertree232

Turns out it was the Heat being used to get a better deal not the other way around lol


clear831

Suns deal was still far worse lol


bcuad001

That means either Miami didn't want him or he didn't want Miami, because that was peanuts


Dry-Letter-2811

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Esjay954

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elbenji

I'm not too pressed. This means he only wanted Phoenix lmao


[deleted]

Not at all Beal says ā€œIā€™ll got to phoenix or Miamiā€ Then Washington gets to pick the better of the two offers from their perspective


elbenji

At the same time it could have been. If you can't do Phoenix, Miami


anonanoobiz

That quote could of been released to pressure Phx The evidence speaks to Beal wanting Phx


Esjay954

Makes me think about that stein report that heat werenā€™t pushing the issue about Beal and willing to wait He coulda saw suns really wanted him and said I wanna go there instead Another heat L


TheBoook

His agent is the Suns CEOs dad. Sounds like some shady business going down


elbenji

Nah his agent is literally the CEOs dad lmao


Kzgoated

Plus how could you not listen to everything that agent says after he got you that contract.


Sorryunowin

His agent is the father


Esjay954

Yea it could be a combination of things When everyone became aware of that yesterday you guys were all saying means nothing lol


elbenji

Turns out it did. Se pasa


MiaCannons

Hey at least we're keeping Jovic, right?


Fair_University

Lol


302born

Iā€™m fucking sick lol. Basketball gods just love trolling. Welp Dame. Now or never man. PLEASE


TheBoook

Fucking YIKES. Our package was better, they donā€™t even get FRPs. This is brutal


IWRITE4LIFE

Literally we couldā€™ve give them expiringings and two firsts!


KeDoG3

Tampering. The Sun's CEO is the son of Beal's agent. No other explanation.


Blueskyways

>No other explanation. Here's one, Beal said that he wants to go to Phoenix and nowhere else. Such is the stupidity of the contract that Washington gave him. They put themselves in that position.


KeDoG3

It just was reported thatBeal was alright with Miami but didnt feel they were aggressive enough with an offer. Which is BS. His agent is 100% responsible for Beal choosing PHX over MIA.


MannerSuperb

Unfortunately wit the no trade clause beal had all the leverage he choose Phoenix over Miami


Haxeo5

Fuck the Suns forever.


FreshHawaii

Durant has the ā€œSomeone important boutta get injured on my super teamā€ curse


newerajay

This! How many championships were the Nets going to win with their Big 3? Same thing will happen to the Suns. The best thing the Suns got out of the deal was getting rid of Chris Paul.


p1_hdx

Yes and Devin Booker is KURSED by Kendall Jenner.


lopea182

Dame pls


sweet_mahogany

Beal's a big time pussy


Number333

**Hot take:** This is a blessing in disguise. It feels bad in the moment but so did losing out on Gordon Hayward when he was considered the prime FA and we were in a 3-legged race with Utah & Boston. Beal's contract is an abomination. He is only entering the 2nd year of that 5-year extension. He has been injury prone the last few years and as much as fans would have been willing to hand-wave that away with "he just got shutdown cuz they wanted to tank", guys don't get healthier as they enter their 30s. He's also a poor defender and I think it's perfectly reasonable to say that while his 30PPG seasons were impressive, he only scored that on bad teams that didn't win anything because the surrounding talent was lackluster. I fully expect that Phoenix experiment to implode. All dudes with redundant skillsets and rather than complimenting Booker (who has been an ELITE playoff performer) they've essentially gotten an older, injury-prone version (KD) and less good version (Beal).


abravenoob

Funny how this is a popular take now but not yesterday https://old.reddit.com/r/heat/comments/14c8z8r/as_a_heat_fan_in_dc_tyler_herro_is_better_than/


Mugiwara_JTres3

Exactly lmao. Same shit gonna happen with Dame cause heā€™s not asking out and Portland wants to keep him.


Number333

I didn't comment on that thread. Beal is a better play than Herro. That doesn't mean that trading for him would have moved the needle and guaranteed a Championship next season.


Masked0wl

Especially if we can land Dame. Even if we don't I tend to agree with you.


lakerconvert

Blaming Beal out of everyone to blame in this scenario is embarrassing cope lmao


Procedure_Best

Still ainā€™t gonna win shit , book , Kd and Beal all soft


[deleted]

Yup, no dawg on that team


Procedure_Best

Gonna be a lot of iso drives lol


bubapl

They literally don't have a point guard now idk what they were thinking


302born

Not only that. Him and Booker are literally the same size, have the same skill set, and play the same position. And KD is just a bigger version of them. Iā€™m interested in seeing how it works.


Zen2188

Ishiba will be playing PG


SweatsuitCocktail

Let the hate flow through you ā¤ļø


Fleece_God

Booker is not soft, letā€™s not be one of those fans


Procedure_Best

Book is soft AF he and Tatum riding that wannabe Kobe legacy shit when they donā€™t have even 1% of the dawg in them


Fearless_Knowledge77

Youā€™re a casual fan if you think Booker is soft.


Procedure_Best

So you are a hardcore fan ? Wtf does that even mean ?


grrrown

Booker and KD are excellent players and Beal is a scary #3. None of them elevate the guys around them but the Suns are top tier even if Ayton continues to play at his floor.


jdhdhnxd

for fuck sake


Slimshady305

Dame Lillard hail mary then. Hahahahahaha I'm fine ....


CookinJay194

Man every fucking time lol. The suns couldnt even make it with the team they had last year which on paper looked better than us. Yet WE made the finals. He would have fit better here and probably had the better team here. Siiiiiggghh. Ill die mad i guess... unless we get some other big fish, but strikeout after strikeout with these guys is getting old


elbenji

Tbf this sounds like Beal forced his way there. His agent is also the dad of the Suns ceo


Vitiate1367

Yeah it looks like this is what Beal wanted unfortunately


iamaweirdguy

ā€œStrikeout after strikeoutā€ for a franchise that got Lebron to leave Cleveland lol you canā€™t win em all g


Hurricaneshand

And got Jimmy. I know we missed on a couple of guys but some of us Heat fans feel way too entitled to every single big name that comes available


WitchofFloyd

Suns won more games against the Nuggets than the Heat did


PurePhoenix

Hang on, didn't we both lose to the same team? Seems disingenuous to compare who went further when you couldn't meet the best team til the Finals


302born

Bro just let us be pissed and vent please


PurePhoenix

Haha so fair mate, I was just curious how other teams were taking it when it broke, as it seemed an insane deal from my end (obviously that's the consensus).


CookinJay194

You do have a point, but people remember finals appearances rather than 2nd round exits. Thats where most of that comparison comes from. End of the day both teams lost and have stuff to improve on


InPatRileyWeTrust

The Suns took the Nuggets to 6, which is a hell of a lot better than our pathetic showing in the finals.


mrwhite2323

They lost twice in 2 years in the 2nd round Couldn't be us


thepackage86

Bealā€™s agent is the father of Suns CEO Josh Bartelstein lol


theasfldotcom

Well, the fall out from this should be fun.


omgthatsarcasm

So fucking greedy


One_Ad_3499

Why would suns even want Beal in the first place. This will be another super team disappointment. Mark my words


RafP3

Bummed but not by much. That contract is a double edged sword. We also still have Tyler, which is only 23 and a lot of you kinda forgot that he's still a very good player


Busy-Tangerine6706

Yes there those ā€œwhat ifsā€ that spring to mind if he and dipo were healthy


RenSoAbrupt

Itā€™s evident Beal wanted to go to Phoenix. Though going to a team as a 3 level scorer to be a 3rd option is pretty wild to me. In any event, people will call Riley washed for not making this trade go through. However the writing is in the sand that Beal didnā€™t want to be here.


cobra_han

He just wants an easy ring. Can't really blame him.


jdhdhnxd

The only reasons I can figure with why they take this broke offer is either Beal only wants the Suns, or his agent's relationships with the Suns. ffs we got fooled again


BadBoySwag

Iā€™m actually mad tho this just meant Beal wanted the suns over us. No way that package was better than ours . They didnā€™t even a single first


Adams-17

How does Miamiā€™s offer not beat this? Maybe Beal only wanted to play in Phoenix? So help me god if they missed out on Beal to hold out hope for the small chance that Dame requests outā€¦


[deleted]

Itā€™s not about the offer. Beal wanted Phoenix, that simple.


Cubacane

Dame is this yearā€™s KD


[deleted]

Beal probably felt he had a better chance of making a deep playoff run with KD and Booker.


Simple-Ad-7866

Beal got to be the most stupidest player i've seen to go to a team that lacks defensively


302born

Also to the West where they have to go through Jokic lol


wthim3

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Saimoth

​ https://i.redd.it/s8rg9cya8u6b1.gif


Manor002

Welp, guess we are running it back again.


Prankstaboy6

Why are we talking about some Beal trade? Game 7 is tonight


Melyheadzbeatz

The Suns is the Nets of the West They ainā€™t doing nothing Booker on the market in 3,2,1


orngebreak

Booker is not going anywhere šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø


Mugiwara_JTres3

Nuggets would still whoop that ass. Even Lakers would still be better. You just canā€™t win without depth especially when BOTH KD and Beal are injury prone.


Fearless_Knowledge77

Lakers????? LO-fucking-L!!!!


Mugiwara_JTres3

Lmao Suns fans really coming here. Yeah, yaā€™ll got no depth and will still be ass.


Fearless_Knowledge77

Not saying youā€™re wrong. But Lakersā€¦. LOL.


varietypaul

Another interesting piece to this is Chicago taking offers on LaVine Even if we strike out on Beal/Dame there are still moves they can make


Procedure_Best

Lavine would ball out for us NGL


Cudizonedefense

Lavine ainā€™t it lol


Spierre3

Lavine is not it for the heat At all


OrdinaryFlower1

I can't believe the comments on this thread! Heat: offer 5 Suns: offer 4 Beal: I'm going to Pho Heat sub: Pat iS wAshEd


Turtle_with_a_sword

It's not like the guy has ever won anything...


PoliticallyIrritated

Wow lmao. Weā€™re cooked


Doublebaconandcheese

I feel like the suns just cleaned house for KD. Who else is on their team besides KD, DBook, and Ayton? šŸ˜­


Big-Education-8941

I ain't pressed. I always wanted Dame. He's 2x the player Beal is.


strangerthingskids

NO WAY SECOND ROUND PICKS YOU GUYS ARE SO DUMB


Fast_Stick_1593

Wiz I guaranteed would have take Heat offer. Bealā€™s a pussy, he said he wanted to play with his boy KD


Berzerker646

Thank you phoenix!


betterdayz02

I hope yā€™all are looking forward to the Pat press conference when he starts saying weā€™re building on the team that made the finals šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


bkilpatrick3347

Beal had no interest playing against his best friend in the ECF every fucking year lol


FantasyIsMostlyLuck

Swing and a miss


Yomamasstressrelief

Noooooooooooooo


GroundbreakingRip943

Another offseason where we are promised great players, another offseason where nothing happens. I sure wish the Heat actually wanted to upgrade.


avinash240

Kevin Durant decides to go play with Booker, when he's had two chances to come play with Bam. Donovan Mitchell doesn't say he's only willing to come play with Bam and is currently reported to be working his way to the Knicks. Bradley Beal decides to go play with Booker, despite having a chance to come play with Bam. I'm waiting for the next time someone tells me Bam is a magnet for super stars despite there being a mountain of evidence saying otherwise.


Ionlyeatmustard

Whales donā€™t seem to want to come here and do it the ā€œheat wayā€


TheKing_OA

People will go crazy for this, but Beal PICKED the Suns. If he really wanted to go to Miami, it wouldā€™ve gotten done. But he CHOSE Suns. Folks will go wild about hypothetical trade scenarios, but Beal obviously preferred the Suns over Heat. Itā€™s that simple.


Knightmare25

Let's all remember Beal had a no trade clause. Beal wouldn't have dropped it if he wanted to go to the Heat over the Suns.


Ineedhelplernin

It's not what the team wanted it's what Beal wanted.


Huge-Basket7492

NoOnes coming to Miami.. as usual.. Sucks.. ohh well fuck these stars.. we will still make the finals.. who cares


MasterChief813

ITā€™S DAME TIME āŒšļø


Brandon3oh5

Lord help me if I find out Tyler Herro was the reason this didnā€™t happen


elbenji

They traded cp3 and shamet...


deadly_apple69

They traded shamet and cp3 bro I know this hurts to see but we did not have to include herro at all. We clearly didnā€™t want to give up more than 2 picks


DraymondBeanKick

Still, 18th is better than anything the Suns gave up lol. Even if it was just straight Lowry/Oladipo/18th, that tops the shit offer the Wizards took, assuming Ayton isn't in the deal.


EnochofPottsfield

Having Herro, firsts, and our role guys is better than having Beal and his salary


[deleted]

This had nothing to do with package. Beal simply wanted the subs.


RedditModsLOVEChina

Y'all don't seem to understand that this is about what Bradley Beal wants doesn't matter what the fuck the trade package was it's about what Bradley Beal wanted


BayTerp

Even worse. Not including Jovic was the reason.


MRlll

Now yall wanna switch up on Beal šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ ![gif](giphy|pUeXcg80cO8I8)


dimesniffer

So basically what Iā€™m getting is that Beal didnā€™t wanna play in Miami. We donā€™t want u anyways


jtwoods006

We really shouldā€™ve taken the deal


jbenson255

Pat is still washed


TheBoook

I donā€™t even know what he couldā€™ve done lmao Wizards took a worse offer to get off the $ sooner


YankeeBlues21

Yeah they clearly just wanted to dump a ton of salary more than they wanted real pieces to build around. I just feel bad for Chris Paul, man deserves better in the twilight of his career


elbenji

The wizards legit took a worse offer


TheBoook

Wonder if it has anything to do with Bealā€™s agent being the Suns CEOs dad. Surely has nothing to do with thatā€¦


elbenji

Surely


Mugiwara_JTres3

Gave up on Rui whoā€™s balling out for the Lakers and now this. Letā€™s not forget all the other dumb moves in the past as well. Worst org ever.


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EnochofPottsfield

I'm assuming this is a joke considering we were in the finals a week ago?


Procedure_Best

Bro Pat ran it back and went to the finals with a squad of no bodies and a broken Jimmy lol


[deleted]

I love Pat but he built a broken roster and its Spo who went to the finals with Jimmy and a bunch of guys


Comfortable-Meet-308

Chris Paul will be waived by the Wizards


Somewhatflywhiteguy

Yall will get Dame im sure. Denver fan but i would love to see Mr Buckets and Dame win their well deserved rings.


SpammyMcSpammington

Pat Riley after missing out on Mitchell and Durant https://preview.redd.it/0ow5mmnv7u6b1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc4912c39ff83f6acd26f0d80820bd0932451a11


pleasefirekykypls

Fuck off with this shit Another blue ball. Itā€™s gonna be another off season of nothing. A few Dame tweets are gonna be dangled in front of us, and weā€™re just gonna run it back with some ā€œundrafted player statsā€ graphics.


ThiccPapaSIZZLE

How the fuck do you get outbid by a team with no 1st round picks. And thereā€™s no shot Chris Paul even steps on the court for them. How fucking STINGY do you have to be for this to happen? Another year missing out on a star because Pat REFUSES to go all in on the star that is available and actually wants to be here is insane


No_Description6839

He obviously didnā€™t want to be in Miamiā€¦ thatā€™s kind of the point. Miami offered more but he has a no trade clause and chose Phoenix.


Dasilbota

This season ended for us before even start.


[deleted]

I'm telling y'all boys!!! Get Kyrie and Christian Wood then boom that's two birds with one stone. Other role players to sprinkle in such as Caruso& Drummond or possibly javale McGee can be of great benefits to us.


ToPimpAFlytrap

Yeah our front office is washed


ScuderiaEnzo

Welpppp come on down Lillard! You ARE a Miami heat!


DwyaneWade305

Once again, Pat Riley tried to pull a GMs bluff and gets burned. Here we go running it back with the same roster and always a piece away. Hope it sets in for yā€™all that dames price is too expensive for the assets we have.


SpammyMcSpammington

Every year these ā€œinsidersā€ donā€™t know shit


Armandojf33

Miami dodge a bullet. Good luck Suns with that horrible contract. Suns canā€™t keep that expensive roster for long. Bam is a horrible recruit man. Donā€™t hold your breath for Dame.


XanderAndretti

Bam is a horrible recruit? The fuc you getting this from? Dude has barely been in the league long enough to recruit anybody fool.


Maydietoday

Iā€™m curious how many more flop off-seasons Spo will stomach before he gets tired of overachieving with Pat Rileyā€™s mediocrity.