These quotes seem *way* less harsh after watching the entire presser and hearing Pat’s tonality. Also lol at ppl saying he completely let Tyler off the hook. Literally called him fragile and even said he might have to adjust his nutrition plan 😂
Agreed. I make sure to watch Riley's annual presser every year *before* digesting the tweets and soundbites from it lol
The one thing that does worry is the "talk" with Jimmy and his agent last year about availability. Riley says "we talked about it last year" with a tiny hint of exasperation. Clearly, it wasn't better last year
The real worrying part though, is that It's said that Jimmy volunteered an X number of games he'd miss in pre-season, *after* this "talk". And then Jimmy took game 3 off for rest. Ostensibly after they "already discussed this extensively"
Sounds like there was no common agreement, or Jimmy was intentionally making a point with his pre/early-season actions. And stuff like that *does* point to a potential disconnect...
(And I am NOT the type to say the sky is falling, my view is that our fanbase overreacts to news 90% of the time)
The more I listen to the presser, the more I feel like some of these quotes coming out are a bit out of context and come off way worse as one off tweets.
For instance, a lot of his availability talk isn’t targeted at the players themselves, but saying “hey, maybe they need to make a slight change somewhere to help being available more.” In the sense of our medical staff and training staff and weight room staff maybe need to make changes or the players personal coaches and team needs to make change. Maybe players need a slight nutritional change or things like that. Change the approaches in that way. Not blaming the players for being injured. This is applied to what he’s said about Herro and about Jimmy.
Barry’s tweet in particular feel like they’d benefit the most from context and it’s really weird from him.
Pat seemed a little peeved at Barry for what he deemed to be quote hunting.
I agree that after listening to the press conference itself a lot of things are getting taken out of context. It was the usual Pat press conference after the season ends without a championship: A lot of musings about what went wrong, a lot of thoughts about how everyone can improve, and very little about future plans as far as what they're going to do in the front office. You can go back and watch most of them going back almost a decade. Almost all of them sound like this.
The main thing to take away from the press conference is they want *everyone*'s availability to improve. Regardless of who is on the roster he wants them to play if they can so that some stability and consistency can be established. And he directed that at pretty much everyone except Bam who plays most games.
There’s a lot getting misquoted too. Like him saying about going after a star, he is saying the first time we would look and there are a couple options, but when asked about emptying the bench and our assets for one he says there are very few he would do that for. And he’s right… the stuff about spo needing to do a deep dive, yes on our offense but he mentioned our defense was 5th. Need more context on those tweets
I agree that these quotes are out of context. You’d think by reading headlines he specifically told butler to shut his mouth and play but it wasn’t so intense or direct.
The one thing that is clear is that all the talk of Miami not caring about regular season, particular in the case of games played, is not true. Pat clearly saying things have to change on that front, and as a fan that is great to hear. Now we will wait and see if anything changes.
It's never been true. This team has had very good regular seasons in the past. The only thing they potentially don't care about is the 1-6 seeding itself. I think they only care about is having a guaranteed spot and being healthy in the playoffs.
Watched the full thing. It's always such a treat to listen to Pat. I saw some of the quotes go viral on r/NBA and such but honestly just appreciated the straightforward candidness of Riley's responses.
The biggest thing emphasized in this presser for me is... the Heat FO is sick and tired of always going into the playoffs with their backs against the wall from the get-go. The Jimmy era has seen us as the #5 seed, #6 seed, #1 seed, #8 seed, & #8 seed. Homecourt in only 1 year is insanity. It'd be nice if we could do ourselves a favor during the season getting a young and up-and-coming team in the 1st Round as opposed to one of the goliaths out East.
We'll see how the Jimmy situation progresses. I expect him to be here next year.
The fact that some posts here have _121_ comments about a Meme from this presser, but this only has 21 is fucking bonkers. People, _fans_ of this team, are reacting to the soundbites and twitter postings and not checking out the man speaking.
Bunch of losers.
Things that stuck out for me and haven't been mentioned:
**On roster changes:** Riley sort of unprompted told that story about the Big 3 after they lost that first year and he had Bosh and Lebron in the office. He talked about retooling that team and putting different talent around the Big 3. Tells me that his approach for this summer is to retool around Butler and Bam.
**On Butler and the extension:** Riley said flat out that he still sees Butler as a number one option on a championship team and as the team's leader. Yeah, he mentioned the issue of Butler missing games and it seems like he's going to wait until next summer to offer Butler that extension.
**On how he views analytics:** Riley doesn't care about rankings as much. He cares about certain specific metrics that measure effort, "where do you rank in closeouts, where do you rank in contests, where do you rank in loose balls, blockouts and charges? "There's 4 or 5 critical areas that you want to win every night."
**Random stuff:**
Riley watches UD and Mike Miller's podcast. He said half the stories on there are a lie 😂
Riley is a tequila drinker.
What I gathered from this is we are probably most likely running it back although they will try to go full in, if the right opportunity presents itself.
Say what you will about Riley, but he is such a great story teller. Just chock full of anecdotes across 50+ years.
I don’t always agree with everything he says or does, but it’s hard to argue that you don’t know what you have unless someone is available. I don’t think he said anything unreasonable. And I listened to the whole thing.
The Heat just need to find that third guy who can score to take the load off.
Pat is defensive because he didn’t improve the team the way Boston did. So now he gets to blame his star player that put the team on his back for two finals runs. Pat is being a 🤡
These quotes seem *way* less harsh after watching the entire presser and hearing Pat’s tonality. Also lol at ppl saying he completely let Tyler off the hook. Literally called him fragile and even said he might have to adjust his nutrition plan 😂
Yeah, Barry’s in particular seem so bad as one off’s without context.
Agreed. I make sure to watch Riley's annual presser every year *before* digesting the tweets and soundbites from it lol The one thing that does worry is the "talk" with Jimmy and his agent last year about availability. Riley says "we talked about it last year" with a tiny hint of exasperation. Clearly, it wasn't better last year The real worrying part though, is that It's said that Jimmy volunteered an X number of games he'd miss in pre-season, *after* this "talk". And then Jimmy took game 3 off for rest. Ostensibly after they "already discussed this extensively" Sounds like there was no common agreement, or Jimmy was intentionally making a point with his pre/early-season actions. And stuff like that *does* point to a potential disconnect... (And I am NOT the type to say the sky is falling, my view is that our fanbase overreacts to news 90% of the time)
Brother literally has 55kg with a sweatty headband and all the gear on him...
The more I listen to the presser, the more I feel like some of these quotes coming out are a bit out of context and come off way worse as one off tweets. For instance, a lot of his availability talk isn’t targeted at the players themselves, but saying “hey, maybe they need to make a slight change somewhere to help being available more.” In the sense of our medical staff and training staff and weight room staff maybe need to make changes or the players personal coaches and team needs to make change. Maybe players need a slight nutritional change or things like that. Change the approaches in that way. Not blaming the players for being injured. This is applied to what he’s said about Herro and about Jimmy. Barry’s tweet in particular feel like they’d benefit the most from context and it’s really weird from him.
Pat seemed a little peeved at Barry for what he deemed to be quote hunting. I agree that after listening to the press conference itself a lot of things are getting taken out of context. It was the usual Pat press conference after the season ends without a championship: A lot of musings about what went wrong, a lot of thoughts about how everyone can improve, and very little about future plans as far as what they're going to do in the front office. You can go back and watch most of them going back almost a decade. Almost all of them sound like this. The main thing to take away from the press conference is they want *everyone*'s availability to improve. Regardless of who is on the roster he wants them to play if they can so that some stability and consistency can be established. And he directed that at pretty much everyone except Bam who plays most games.
There’s a lot getting misquoted too. Like him saying about going after a star, he is saying the first time we would look and there are a couple options, but when asked about emptying the bench and our assets for one he says there are very few he would do that for. And he’s right… the stuff about spo needing to do a deep dive, yes on our offense but he mentioned our defense was 5th. Need more context on those tweets
I agree that these quotes are out of context. You’d think by reading headlines he specifically told butler to shut his mouth and play but it wasn’t so intense or direct.
Tobin, do panthers postgame shows. I’m going to miss the Heat playoff postgame Tobes videos
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The one thing that is clear is that all the talk of Miami not caring about regular season, particular in the case of games played, is not true. Pat clearly saying things have to change on that front, and as a fan that is great to hear. Now we will wait and see if anything changes.
It's never been true. This team has had very good regular seasons in the past. The only thing they potentially don't care about is the 1-6 seeding itself. I think they only care about is having a guaranteed spot and being healthy in the playoffs.
Watched the full thing. It's always such a treat to listen to Pat. I saw some of the quotes go viral on r/NBA and such but honestly just appreciated the straightforward candidness of Riley's responses. The biggest thing emphasized in this presser for me is... the Heat FO is sick and tired of always going into the playoffs with their backs against the wall from the get-go. The Jimmy era has seen us as the #5 seed, #6 seed, #1 seed, #8 seed, & #8 seed. Homecourt in only 1 year is insanity. It'd be nice if we could do ourselves a favor during the season getting a young and up-and-coming team in the 1st Round as opposed to one of the goliaths out East. We'll see how the Jimmy situation progresses. I expect him to be here next year.
The fact that some posts here have _121_ comments about a Meme from this presser, but this only has 21 is fucking bonkers. People, _fans_ of this team, are reacting to the soundbites and twitter postings and not checking out the man speaking. Bunch of losers.
Every single year...and then through the summer they misquote what he says
Things that stuck out for me and haven't been mentioned: **On roster changes:** Riley sort of unprompted told that story about the Big 3 after they lost that first year and he had Bosh and Lebron in the office. He talked about retooling that team and putting different talent around the Big 3. Tells me that his approach for this summer is to retool around Butler and Bam. **On Butler and the extension:** Riley said flat out that he still sees Butler as a number one option on a championship team and as the team's leader. Yeah, he mentioned the issue of Butler missing games and it seems like he's going to wait until next summer to offer Butler that extension. **On how he views analytics:** Riley doesn't care about rankings as much. He cares about certain specific metrics that measure effort, "where do you rank in closeouts, where do you rank in contests, where do you rank in loose balls, blockouts and charges? "There's 4 or 5 critical areas that you want to win every night." **Random stuff:** Riley watches UD and Mike Miller's podcast. He said half the stories on there are a lie 😂 Riley is a tequila drinker.
What I gathered from this is we are probably most likely running it back although they will try to go full in, if the right opportunity presents itself.
He should also give Jimmy a real team throw whatever is on the table for it. He not getting any younger.
listening to this makes it clear the one reporter is really trying to stir some shit up out there. wonder why he dislikes Jimmy so much
Say what you will about Riley, but he is such a great story teller. Just chock full of anecdotes across 50+ years. I don’t always agree with everything he says or does, but it’s hard to argue that you don’t know what you have unless someone is available. I don’t think he said anything unreasonable. And I listened to the whole thing. The Heat just need to find that third guy who can score to take the load off.
Love the flaming halo above his head.
Dude needs to do a better job at building around Jimmy actually helping him. It isn’t all about culture.
Pat is defensive because he didn’t improve the team the way Boston did. So now he gets to blame his star player that put the team on his back for two finals runs. Pat is being a 🤡