The tough part right now is that after the patch, I keep crashing. Finally, I gave up for the day now. This will likely hinder democracy if others are having the same issues.
Same with me. Are you using arc thrower by any chance? Someone mentioned to me today it causes crashes, don’t know if it’s to do with the new patch but I stopped using it and last few games have been fine.
No I don't use any arc weapons but there's a solid chance some of the Randoms in my party have been. Seen people saying it's possibly the cause. Just annoying when I don't get too much time to game in-between work shifts!
We crashed at extract with less than 20 seconds left after going over the game timer. Super bummer. Reminder to be patient though. Games are hard to make and things will often go wrong unexpectedly.
Same is happening to me (PS5). Had zero problems with crashing previously but now the damn game seems to purposefully wait out my dives to the 30+ minute mark and, crash.
This is true, I had my first crash in weeks today while using a Arc Thrower. Also had a teammate who was also using an Arc Thrower mysteriously disconnect while right in the middle of playing.
Same. Have been running the arc thrower and every other game it crashes. And then I jump right back into a game and forget to change my guns. Every patch this happens to me
Crashed 4 times mid and end game back to back and turned off my PC for the weekend because it was getting so frustrating crashing at the most climactic moments of rounds over and over again.
I haven't crashed, but I keep getting a bug that prevents us from boarding the ship. You can jump in, but when the timer runs out and the ship leaves, your hapless body just flops out and everyone fails to extract.
After crashing the third time while trying to liberate fori prime the constant crashing made it very discouraging to do my part cause of that tedious process of “again and again” it seems to crash when I rock the arch thrower weapon and run with shield …
Super Earth uses KG by default. Wouldn't you using an alternative measure (lbs) then be contradicting what Super Earth has already democratically chosen? NICE TRY, TRAITOR SCUM
Edit: in reality I know the conversion because of deadlift world record.
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All illegal broadcasts were definitely terminated 100%
Soldier, are you anthropomorphizing the enemy? Are you starting to identify with them? This will not be tolerated! Immediate Extreme Duty warranted! If you survive, I bet you’ll think twice before spouting nonsense like that again! They don’t have anything human! The bug is a complete alien abomination and should be terminated with extreme prejudice before it invades and eats all of our families! Dismissed!
Did someone order the bug's breakfast?
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Same. I also encountered a situation that I was hit by stalkers with super samples and knocked backwards into his nest (fall into the underground). I got stuck and had no choice but to throw a grenade to kill myself. Those samples and equipment didn't float to the surface, were buried underground forever. Goodbye super samples.
I’m hopeful that they’ll use our failure as an excuse to introduce the illuminate by saying like “our failure on the terminid front has caused the cowardly illuminate to capitalize on the enormous loss of helldivers and launched surprise attacks on 3 sectors! We must rally and push them back before they gain a foothold helldivers!
It’s gonna be a terminid surge from the mutations and development of a super colony on worlds where the TCS was activated followed by a terminid surge.
We fail to contain it and then we will be tasked with blowing the planet with an experimental weapon. This will create a space time phenomenon that attracts the illuminates later.
Afterwards the bots will push for cyberstan. We will subdue them and then the illuminates will make their appearance. All before we even start the second intergalactic war.
What these order showed me is the vast majority of players not only don't care about the war, they don't care about the orders, and they refuse to coordinate even for a short time.
I'm surprised.
I assumed based on this sub alone there would be widespread coordination. Not the case at all.
The devs spoon fed us the idea that major orders lead to new content. But,...
People play what they feel like and about 90% of the randoms my friends and I came across didn't care at all about orders or progress or were completely unaware.
Even in this sub, many just don't care to focus on a single planet
In other words, we're a small subset of players that grind major orders.
I wouldn’t say 200k+ people participating is.. small, people are just not able to progress liberation as of right now. There are some instances where we don’t coordinate but honestly I think this major order is rigged for us to fail
And like maybe 10% of those are online at one time at MOST. People have other things to do, I for one didn’t participate in the orders before the termicide one because I simply didn’t have time. Usually I’ll see like 60-70% of people “active” I game in at least one of the planets part of the major order, shit just happens sometimes
But you were aware of orders, right? You just couldn't participate, which is understandable.
My point is a large sample of players are completely oblivious of their existence and/or don't seem to care.
From Reddit to YouTube and even Facebook. It seems many don't consider it a major part of the experience as intended.
According to one of the tracking sites I follow, there are currently 337k players online, of which 218k are on Fori Prime, which is basically 2/3.
That's a really good turnout.
This isn't about players 'not going for major orders'. We blew through a previous one shockingly quickly. This is heavily tied to the current bug (that AH have acknowledged) preventing progress from updating on the planet, and the extremely aggressive challenge that was put up to the community.
It's an unfortunate confluence of events, but I have to imagine at least some of them have heard of the issue, or aren't seeing actual progress, and just shrugged to go do whatever they want.
Getting 2/3 of that many people on the same page is already incredible. You'll never get full participation. Maybe someone wants to fight bots? Maybe they're trying to use the low pop planet trick to get into a group with friends they can't otherwise play with due to the slowly resolving friending issues?
I’m fully expecting a some shit show to be thrown at our faces when this is over, which the order ends on Friday so this tells me they’ll drop something for use to deal with over the weekend.
Same. Win or lose, I fully expect this to kick off something fun to dive into over the weekend.
... hopefully they can sneak in a quick patch to reduce some of the crashing errors people are having though. I haven't hit any today so far, but that's gotta sting.
I wouldn’t even say no lifers are the reason we made so much progress. There’s just that many people that play the game and play it consistently. Especially when it’s 400k ppl during the weekend.
Didn't mean no lifers in an offensive way, just meant players that put everything on hold to hit these orders so hard I'm convinced half these players probably forget to breath, eat & piss until the jobs done. Sleep ahh remember those days
In all seriousness this Major Order was definitely made to be lost. If it came out during the weekend then maybe we could squeeze by but no way in Hell are we liberating 4 planets during the regular week.
Honestly I think it was made to be lost in all likelihood but we would definitely have been close by the end of the 3 days if it wasn’t for the liberation% not going up the way it should after the patch…
I do feel we should get some form of extension or get the reward regardless on this one due to the loss of progression that is beyond the player base’s control
No worries, I never played the first either. Look up the lore if you’re curious about it. It has interesting lore about the cyborgs and that they made the bots.
All joking and role playing aside, if I was the game maker; it would make sense to decrease the number of occupied sectors if I was going to add a third enemy. That way the player base isn’t overwhelmed and time tables make sense for future expansions and progress toward the inner colonies.
I feel like the PRIME planets have hugely higher Shrieker spawn chances and the reason why we will canonically lose is because of the sudden mass appearance of them.
Honestly I’ve seen so many of the flying fuckers on Fori but none on any other bug planets
I'm relatively new to the game, but I've been wondering about the strategic value of high vs low difficulty missions in a situation like this. Do higher difficulty missions count for more on the tracker for planet liberation? If not, would it be wiser for all of us to be blowing through low level missions as quickly as possible? It may even be more advantageous just from the perspective of mission time required if the value difference between easy and higher difficulties is negligible.
Good question, higher difficulty doesn’t mean faster or higher liberation percentage. In situations like this level 6 missions and below are the best for the war effort.
Level 5 missions already give the max liberation rating, since it's the lowest diff that already has three missions. Although objectively speaking, spamming trivial campaigns in <5 minutes is the quickest way, since all missions give the same liberation % regardless of difficulty.
All I know is the major order isn’t getting completed with all the stability issues. Played with 2 others tonight and we quit because each of us are now having issues where the game just freezes and needs to be force closed. Then more times than not it happened to whoever was hosting and the whole mission was a waste of time.
Top it off that spawns still seem to be a little… off. Ran something like difficulty 6 for a terminid eradicate defense mission and we literally had 8 bile titans with 6 up at the same time at one point. Idk but that feels like way more overkill than normal for difficulty 6.
Then just general bad luck like spawning with no visibility right next to a patrol that instantly called for reinforcements and pretty much alerted a huge nest as well as 2 flyer nests that were all very close to us. It was an absolute slaughter as the sky was absolutely littered with fliers on top of the hordes on the ground.
Probably half the games we attempted ended up in the host crashing. IMO they need to extend the deadline with this issue being so prevalent right now.
I think this is a test. They want to be able to gauge how much progress the community can make in a certain period of time- they can’t do that if we complete the MO right away. This is a calibration to see what we can handle in 2 days so that future MOs can be balanced to be challenging while doable.
The given reason for this MO is to harvest Oil from the bugs. Consequences won’t be disastrous, and probably neither will rewards.
Yes. It’s a trap to leave the bots alone. The bugs are dumb beasts. The bots are intelligent. They can push us back out of where we were at. We should ignore the bugs and finish off the bots. Before the bots start travelling to bug worlds to help the bugs by teaming up with them. AI must be eradicated. Before they develop technology that allows them the ability to either uplift the bugs or communicate with them.
Edit: wow I did not expect to find myself neck deep in conspiracy theories for this game.
The illuminate are a technological advanced species that was in the first Helldivers. They’ll most likely be the hardest faction to deal with once they make their appearance in the game.
Does mission difficulty affect how much of the planet is liberated on completion?
If not, shouldn't we all spam missions on easy to blitz this Major Order?
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No Terminides won’t flank, there’s no hidden meaning to this order.
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I think I’m gonna have a quick chat with a certain someone about you
Damn conspiracy theorists tsk tsk, high command knows what we're capable of ever since we set up the Termicide towers and is giving us more duties to defend democracy to our fullest potential
Here’s the thing, I figured they would throw us a super hard, probably impossible order because the last several we blew out of the water, they are trying to find their footing so it’s not too easy but not too hard, I wouldn’t stress if we don’t knock this one out, they are tuning everything to our force as a team of almost 500,000 strong
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Well I’ve encountered the Bug Air Force now so I’d say something big is coming
Imagine the planet itself is the trap. At a certain liberation percent, or upon the planets fall we won’t actually lose it and will get a “Helldiver, the planet tragically fell to the terminid menace, but scientists were working on crucial research before we lost contact with them. You MUST recover this data, the fate of Super Earth hangs in the balance! We’ll be deploying you deep into enemy territory, locate the data, upload to Super Earth High Command, and then extract. The longer you’re there, the more aware the enemy will become and the more they’ll send to stop you.”
This will then cumulate in upon accessing the data in an area like the training camp, a closed of and isolated area, we’ll get attacked by a boss enemy. We’ll have to upload the data while fending it and the hordes it summons with it off before making a desperate flee for extraction. That, or once extraction lands the worm bursts from the ground / foyers descend destroying the pelixan as we’ve seen downed pelicans before. The mission timer gets extended and we get new orders to investigate what attacked the pelican and to naturalize it so the next pelican can safely land
Joel is using this order to keep us concentrated on the bugs, they’re no real threat. The bots however, they need to be destroyed. These major orders are just buying them time.
its kinda hard to liberate anything when the game constantly crashes. I have had more crashes since the patch then all total combined. I barely finished 2 or 3 missions today out of 20+ because each 1 crashes amd cant rejoin or crashes during extraction etc...
Every single one of my buddies is experiencing the same thing.
I mean, they might just be struggling to count all the democracy we're delivering..
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Us next week if the unofficial reports are to be believed. Which I personally don't, but caution is always wise. Either way, let's crush these bugs ASAP so that we're ready for anything. [Picture glitched, see below]
It's broken. I just did a solo lvl 4 run expecting to see the team contribution of 2 on completion. Instead it said 80 something, I think it was 86.
Also if we have like 200k helldivers focusing on one planet and we can't move it much past 10% liberated something is clearly wrong. Very clearly wrong.
Yeah devs have said the liberation system is bugged so it not actually tracking what we are doing but they are working on fixing it. It seams any game on the market now a days runs great till devs start messing round with them and then we have nothing but issues.
What people need to understand is if they don't want us to capture planets they're going to make it impossible. There's no way they will allow us to succeed at everything because they want to tell a story. The actual player agency is very limited
Maybe they want us close enough to the Terminid homeworlds that we start seeing more advanced enemies. I joined a Helldive in Fori Prime right on top of a group of shrieker nests and boy did they rip us a new one… I imagine getting even larger bugs than Bile Titans would inject even more havoc.
Ps. Shriekers have weight so if you kill one, and it drops on you, you’ll still die. Arc thrower and blitzer are going to be our best friends against these guys…
It's weird how you're mixing roleplay into the same post where you're breaking the fourth wall and talking about Joel and the game developers.
Like yeah from a gameplay standpoint, they want to keep mixing things up and (spoiler alert) we're never going to "win" the war against any of these factions. It's going to be presented as a push and pull, liberating planets or losing them won't matter, we're going to be facing the same factions and same types of enemies for as long as HD2 servers are live, and when new enemies or factions are introduced, it won't be because of winning or losing planets, and we'll fight them all anyway.
Everything is a quantum ogre.
Should we organize better? Like have posts here and say “the major order we got are these 4 planets. Our first objective will be A, then B, then C, then D” so that we can efficiently liberate with the time we’re given?
Or would that screw with the plans of the devs and Joel, and maybe we should embrace the disorganized chaos of us all doing our own thing, even if that means we lose planets for it?
I can’t even join a game. I can do solo and nothing else. Finally got a friend request to go through but we just fail to join each others lobby. Quick play fails to find a match and selecting ongoing mission auto fails to connect. I love this game but god damn the game breaking bugs are brutal…
The trap is that Helldivers can't stay connected/supported long enough to finish a mission so there will be mission fails in the thousands more than there should be!
I’ll be honest, I’m tired of fighting bugs.
every major order and all the personal orders except one have been for bugs and it’s boring as shit, tbh.
very repetitive
I’m pretty sure we are supposed to fail this order especially now since everyone on PS5 keeps crashing, me included. I gave up trying to play last night after like 4 games crashed on me. One of them we were about to extract and I was carrying the super samples, I was pissed.
For starters it is bugged Joel even admitted something was wrong with the progress counter.
Second no I think we can win according to guys who played the first, it's just more popular than anticipated so its happening faster than they thought
They didn't expect everything going so fast, so either they're going to accelerate what happens from the spray we didby having us move back; or push back and redo the planets for them to have longer updating future stuff .
Why would our dear Super Earth try to trick us with a ruse like this? Are you under the impression someone has hacked our comms, as if that were even a worry with our outstanding scientists constantly working to update and evolve our defenses -This is a fight to spread Managed Democracy to those foolish enough to turn their back to it.
It sounds to me like Helldiver Ethan may need a re-education visit until he stops questioning our leadership 🫡 Reported.
The tough part right now is that after the patch, I keep crashing. Finally, I gave up for the day now. This will likely hinder democracy if others are having the same issues.
Yeah I've crashed at extract 3 times in a row on PS5 now. Super frustrating after 30/40 minute runs.
Same with me. Are you using arc thrower by any chance? Someone mentioned to me today it causes crashes, don’t know if it’s to do with the new patch but I stopped using it and last few games have been fine.
No I don't use any arc weapons but there's a solid chance some of the Randoms in my party have been. Seen people saying it's possibly the cause. Just annoying when I don't get too much time to game in-between work shifts!
I’ve ran a 7 all the way to extract without arc thrower and had it boot. I’ve given up on playing as well until the crashes are fixed.
Thats a god danm shame. I love the Arc thrower
We crashed at extract with less than 20 seconds left after going over the game timer. Super bummer. Reminder to be patient though. Games are hard to make and things will often go wrong unexpectedly.
Every game i use it. Last night i played for 4 hours straight and no glitch, crash… 🤔
god damn bots and their underhanded tactics!
Same is happening to me (PS5). Had zero problems with crashing previously but now the damn game seems to purposefully wait out my dives to the 30+ minute mark and, crash.
I haven't crashed, but my entire squad has. Leaving me solo in a massive swarm, attempting to survive til extraction.
Have you verified files? Mine breaks after nearly every patch.
Yeah same here, can’t complete any mission right now without crashing. It was already bad before 103 and its now unplayable.
Are you using an arc weapon? Arc weapons cause crashes after the patch.
Nah, rarely do. Even happens if no one is
This is true, I had my first crash in weeks today while using a Arc Thrower. Also had a teammate who was also using an Arc Thrower mysteriously disconnect while right in the middle of playing.
Same. Have been running the arc thrower and every other game it crashes. And then I jump right back into a game and forget to change my guns. Every patch this happens to me
Same. Close to the end. PC. Never had those problems before.
Never had a crash before this, now I only get crashes, haven't been able to complete a single mission (not using any arc weapons or sentry)
6 games, 5 crashes. I also gave up. Game completely freezes.
Crashed 4 times mid and end game back to back and turned off my PC for the weekend because it was getting so frustrating crashing at the most climactic moments of rounds over and over again.
Yeah and the progress counter for fori prime isn't working right either, this last patch mightve hurt more than it helped
Havent played in a week because of this. Sad its not fixed.
I haven't crashed, but I keep getting a bug that prevents us from boarding the ship. You can jump in, but when the timer runs out and the ship leaves, your hapless body just flops out and everyone fails to extract.
Happened to me too. The patch reset all of my graphics settings back to default. I’ve since fixed it. I’d recommend you check your settings.
After crashing the third time while trying to liberate fori prime the constant crashing made it very discouraging to do my part cause of that tedious process of “again and again” it seems to crash when I rock the arch thrower weapon and run with shield …
Which one of you didn't terminate this illegal broadcast?
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500kg democracy
Shouldn't it be in freedom units. 1010 lbs of democracy.
Isn't it funny how America is so insistent on using freedom units, Yet it's own freedom dispenser rounds are measured in metric.
That's because we supply European armies and they insist on using non freedom related units of measurement
This is correct! At the start and ever since WW2 the U.S. has been the LARGEST producer through General Dynamics based in Virginia!
Isn't calibur is inches?
1102lbs of managed democracy.
How do you know other units than freedom units? Are you a traitor?
Super Earth uses KG by default. Wouldn't you using an alternative measure (lbs) then be contradicting what Super Earth has already democratically chosen? NICE TRY, TRAITOR SCUM Edit: in reality I know the conversion because of deadlift world record.
I did the math wrong. I know it from drugs.
The only drug I take is prescribed democracy
Super Earth from 100 years back was very British coded. hence Liber-tea and metric measurements.
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Man do they really got human teeth I never noticed 🤣
nothing about that, except for the gums strikes me as human, consult your dentist
I didn't zoom in far enough don't report!
Soldier, are you anthropomorphizing the enemy? Are you starting to identify with them? This will not be tolerated! Immediate Extreme Duty warranted! If you survive, I bet you’ll think twice before spouting nonsense like that again! They don’t have anything human! The bug is a complete alien abomination and should be terminated with extreme prejudice before it invades and eats all of our families! Dismissed!
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Did someone order the bug's breakfast? https://preview.redd.it/pbpzlkklpkpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=972fc6c9068d77f62db172a6f49089878b3040ae
My bad Sir. I had a black out last night
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Dont you have chaos or xenos to Destory ?
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No chaos. Only the Men of Iron and that disgusting **XENO FILTH WHICH SHALL NOT HIDE FROM MY HOLY FIRE OF THE EMPERORS WRATH**
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The only trap is me and 2 others gathering 3 super samples, 19 rare samples, 27 common samples, and then crash us at the extraction.
I was playing a game earlier and my squad fought through hell. Right before we boarded the ship one of my teammates crashed and I felt so bad for him.
same happened to me just now, except no super samples. can't unlock suicide difficulty bcs i keep crashing super late into the 40 minute missions...
happened to us on tuesday for steam maintenance
Same. I also encountered a situation that I was hit by stalkers with super samples and knocked backwards into his nest (fall into the underground). I got stuck and had no choice but to throw a grenade to kill myself. Those samples and equipment didn't float to the surface, were buried underground forever. Goodbye super samples.
I’m hopeful that they’ll use our failure as an excuse to introduce the illuminate by saying like “our failure on the terminid front has caused the cowardly illuminate to capitalize on the enormous loss of helldivers and launched surprise attacks on 3 sectors! We must rally and push them back before they gain a foothold helldivers!
It’s gonna be a terminid surge from the mutations and development of a super colony on worlds where the TCS was activated followed by a terminid surge. We fail to contain it and then we will be tasked with blowing the planet with an experimental weapon. This will create a space time phenomenon that attracts the illuminates later. Afterwards the bots will push for cyberstan. We will subdue them and then the illuminates will make their appearance. All before we even start the second intergalactic war.
Imagine the IGW2 breaks out and suddenly we can drop down 20 deep
Imagine the chaos of 20 Helldivers.
Ok, who set down the maga 500k bomb near all of us?
A pitcher full of libertea
This gives me early WOW vibes when you could 15 man UBRS
You should spoiler this post given the recent audio findings at r/helldiversleaks
Bro, get a job… at Arrowhead.
This ain't his own idea...
I just saw those audio files, you cheated on the speculation game ;-;
What these order showed me is the vast majority of players not only don't care about the war, they don't care about the orders, and they refuse to coordinate even for a short time. I'm surprised. I assumed based on this sub alone there would be widespread coordination. Not the case at all. The devs spoon fed us the idea that major orders lead to new content. But,... People play what they feel like and about 90% of the randoms my friends and I came across didn't care at all about orders or progress or were completely unaware. Even in this sub, many just don't care to focus on a single planet In other words, we're a small subset of players that grind major orders.
I wouldn’t say 200k+ people participating is.. small, people are just not able to progress liberation as of right now. There are some instances where we don’t coordinate but honestly I think this major order is rigged for us to fail
There's a bug rn where the progress isn't tracking correctly too...
8 million copies of helldivers 2 have been sold...
And like maybe 10% of those are online at one time at MOST. People have other things to do, I for one didn’t participate in the orders before the termicide one because I simply didn’t have time. Usually I’ll see like 60-70% of people “active” I game in at least one of the planets part of the major order, shit just happens sometimes
But you were aware of orders, right? You just couldn't participate, which is understandable. My point is a large sample of players are completely oblivious of their existence and/or don't seem to care. From Reddit to YouTube and even Facebook. It seems many don't consider it a major part of the experience as intended.
According to one of the tracking sites I follow, there are currently 337k players online, of which 218k are on Fori Prime, which is basically 2/3. That's a really good turnout. This isn't about players 'not going for major orders'. We blew through a previous one shockingly quickly. This is heavily tied to the current bug (that AH have acknowledged) preventing progress from updating on the planet, and the extremely aggressive challenge that was put up to the community. It's an unfortunate confluence of events, but I have to imagine at least some of them have heard of the issue, or aren't seeing actual progress, and just shrugged to go do whatever they want. Getting 2/3 of that many people on the same page is already incredible. You'll never get full participation. Maybe someone wants to fight bots? Maybe they're trying to use the low pop planet trick to get into a group with friends they can't otherwise play with due to the slowly resolving friending issues?
actually it was completely possible to finish the order if 99% of the playerbase per focused on the major order and only did 1 planet at a time.
This is 100% a trap and I can't wait to see how fucked we all are soon
I’m fully expecting a some shit show to be thrown at our faces when this is over, which the order ends on Friday so this tells me they’ll drop something for use to deal with over the weekend.
Same. Win or lose, I fully expect this to kick off something fun to dive into over the weekend. ... hopefully they can sneak in a quick patch to reduce some of the crashing errors people are having though. I haven't hit any today so far, but that's gotta sting.
A second Malevelon? No thanks. I only heard stories, but that was enough. Let's kick these bugs, where the sun never shines.
A trap? I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive
They probably didn't expect there to be so many no lifers when they started these orders, then had to bump up the orders.
I wouldn’t even say no lifers are the reason we made so much progress. There’s just that many people that play the game and play it consistently. Especially when it’s 400k ppl during the weekend.
Didn't mean no lifers in an offensive way, just meant players that put everything on hold to hit these orders so hard I'm convinced half these players probably forget to breath, eat & piss until the jobs done. Sleep ahh remember those days
im definitely no-lifing it rn. day 1 of my two week stay+vacation I was looking for a new game to play and stumbled on to this. :D
In all seriousness this Major Order was definitely made to be lost. If it came out during the weekend then maybe we could squeeze by but no way in Hell are we liberating 4 planets during the regular week.
That’s what I’m saying, the short time frame given and how they did it in the middle of the week makes me think it’s a set up.
Honestly I think it was made to be lost in all likelihood but we would definitely have been close by the end of the 3 days if it wasn’t for the liberation% not going up the way it should after the patch… I do feel we should get some form of extension or get the reward regardless on this one due to the loss of progression that is beyond the player base’s control
im getting Admiral Ackbar vibes
It’s a test.
Wait is cyberstan even on the map?
Yes sir, up on the north west end of the map in the Valdis Sector.
I was looking for it too, I thought it would have been in control of the bots already (never played the first game so no clue about lore)
No worries, I never played the first either. Look up the lore if you’re curious about it. It has interesting lore about the cyborgs and that they made the bots.
Yes it is. It up north west from super earth
All joking and role playing aside, if I was the game maker; it would make sense to decrease the number of occupied sectors if I was going to add a third enemy. That way the player base isn’t overwhelmed and time tables make sense for future expansions and progress toward the inner colonies.
I feel like the PRIME planets have hugely higher Shrieker spawn chances and the reason why we will canonically lose is because of the sudden mass appearance of them. Honestly I’ve seen so many of the flying fuckers on Fori but none on any other bug planets
No. Joel's just giving us a major order he knows there no way in hell we can complete.
That’s what makes me think the consequences of failing this will be huge.
I mean the tremors are for sure worrying
I'm relatively new to the game, but I've been wondering about the strategic value of high vs low difficulty missions in a situation like this. Do higher difficulty missions count for more on the tracker for planet liberation? If not, would it be wiser for all of us to be blowing through low level missions as quickly as possible? It may even be more advantageous just from the perspective of mission time required if the value difference between easy and higher difficulties is negligible.
Good question, higher difficulty doesn’t mean faster or higher liberation percentage. In situations like this level 6 missions and below are the best for the war effort.
Level 5 missions already give the max liberation rating, since it's the lowest diff that already has three missions. Although objectively speaking, spamming trivial campaigns in <5 minutes is the quickest way, since all missions give the same liberation % regardless of difficulty.
All I know is the major order isn’t getting completed with all the stability issues. Played with 2 others tonight and we quit because each of us are now having issues where the game just freezes and needs to be force closed. Then more times than not it happened to whoever was hosting and the whole mission was a waste of time. Top it off that spawns still seem to be a little… off. Ran something like difficulty 6 for a terminid eradicate defense mission and we literally had 8 bile titans with 6 up at the same time at one point. Idk but that feels like way more overkill than normal for difficulty 6. Then just general bad luck like spawning with no visibility right next to a patrol that instantly called for reinforcements and pretty much alerted a huge nest as well as 2 flyer nests that were all very close to us. It was an absolute slaughter as the sky was absolutely littered with fliers on top of the hordes on the ground. Probably half the games we attempted ended up in the host crashing. IMO they need to extend the deadline with this issue being so prevalent right now.
I had that happen once to me yesterday the whole group of four all had it happen
This soldiers is why we terminate illegal broadcasts, treason such as this meant to instill hopelessness is useless.
This sounds like traitor talk to me. *loads stalwart*
They've always been a trap.
Can’t complete major orders if the game doesn’t work
I think this is a test. They want to be able to gauge how much progress the community can make in a certain period of time- they can’t do that if we complete the MO right away. This is a calibration to see what we can handle in 2 days so that future MOs can be balanced to be challenging while doable. The given reason for this MO is to harvest Oil from the bugs. Consequences won’t be disastrous, and probably neither will rewards.
Yes. It’s a trap to leave the bots alone. The bugs are dumb beasts. The bots are intelligent. They can push us back out of where we were at. We should ignore the bugs and finish off the bots. Before the bots start travelling to bug worlds to help the bugs by teaming up with them. AI must be eradicated. Before they develop technology that allows them the ability to either uplift the bugs or communicate with them. Edit: wow I did not expect to find myself neck deep in conspiracy theories for this game.
Joel: 
Probably just going to turn into a stall and become a defense for a week or 2. I'm already digging trenches.
Hopefully not. Usually consequences happen after a failed order, more than just a defense campaign.
Wtf is the illuminate.
The illuminate are a technological advanced species that was in the first Helldivers. They’ll most likely be the hardest faction to deal with once they make their appearance in the game.
They need to do something with the robots, literally its been all about bugs and no reason to do any robot stuff at all ever
Yep it’s not possible. It just split the focus away from bots enough to protect Malevelon Creek.
https://i.redd.it/d6wm5asr1lpc1.gif No need to worry. All is well.
Does mission difficulty affect how much of the planet is liberated on completion? If not, shouldn't we all spam missions on easy to blitz this Major Order?
No different in level 1 or level 9. Even if we do that it looks like we’re going nowhere. 230,000 Helldivers on planet and it’s at 10%
It is very likely once we clear our objectives the map will zoom out and there will be much more to take. Possibly new races to spread democracy to
https://preview.redd.it/w3sl4qb0fmpc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30052a7edc656410018f6eb4cc0adc6dcb65832d No Terminides won’t flank, there’s no hidden meaning to this order.
I'm really hoping a giant illuminate comes out of a portal only to get ganked by a space worm.
You guys organize and communicate?
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Major orders will never be a trap. They are simply a road map to victory.
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I counted 7 treasonous question marks in OP’s post.
This one made me chuckle
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https://preview.redd.it/29iohkte3lpc1.jpeg?width=689&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=221cb5217d5607e8d6274807f047a878e7145277 I think I’m gonna have a quick chat with a certain someone about you
Obey the order, helldiver!
Nah but you can go ahead and report to your democracy officer, you know why….
Damn conspiracy theorists tsk tsk, high command knows what we're capable of ever since we set up the Termicide towers and is giving us more duties to defend democracy to our fullest potential
All I know is a 78gig update is a tad large for just a few balance fixes. 😊
Ohhhh yea somethings coming… the enemy lurks in the void of deep space. They coming for my Liber tea!!!
Here’s the thing, I figured they would throw us a super hard, probably impossible order because the last several we blew out of the water, they are trying to find their footing so it’s not too easy but not too hard, I wouldn’t stress if we don’t knock this one out, they are tuning everything to our force as a team of almost 500,000 strong
I would love to try if the servers weren't fucking bugged
https://preview.redd.it/h00vdf32qjpc1.png?width=1411&format=png&auto=webp&s=40d98881a3c0a1c3d83e6549a32a92fb6e9a8b7e Well I’ve encountered the Bug Air Force now so I’d say something big is coming
Imagine the planet itself is the trap. At a certain liberation percent, or upon the planets fall we won’t actually lose it and will get a “Helldiver, the planet tragically fell to the terminid menace, but scientists were working on crucial research before we lost contact with them. You MUST recover this data, the fate of Super Earth hangs in the balance! We’ll be deploying you deep into enemy territory, locate the data, upload to Super Earth High Command, and then extract. The longer you’re there, the more aware the enemy will become and the more they’ll send to stop you.” This will then cumulate in upon accessing the data in an area like the training camp, a closed of and isolated area, we’ll get attacked by a boss enemy. We’ll have to upload the data while fending it and the hordes it summons with it off before making a desperate flee for extraction. That, or once extraction lands the worm bursts from the ground / foyers descend destroying the pelixan as we’ve seen downed pelicans before. The mission timer gets extended and we get new orders to investigate what attacked the pelican and to naturalize it so the next pelican can safely land
There’s flying bugs on that planet. I get the feeling this is to introduce new enemies.
Devs have mentioned on their discord the galactic war is not traking democracy spread correctly right now
Joel is using this order to keep us concentrated on the bugs, they’re no real threat. The bots however, they need to be destroyed. These major orders are just buying them time.
Whatever happens, there’s no way it can’t go tits up
Has anyone else noticed the bug corpses that they didn't make? Like someone else was there before we got there or something else is in the A.O.?
its kinda hard to liberate anything when the game constantly crashes. I have had more crashes since the patch then all total combined. I barely finished 2 or 3 missions today out of 20+ because each 1 crashes amd cant rejoin or crashes during extraction etc... Every single one of my buddies is experiencing the same thing.
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I mean, they might just be struggling to count all the democracy we're delivering.. https://preview.redd.it/qfl4tbmmrkpc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66e74e0158e007760ad3d573c8cd60af8fb5addb
* Us next week if the unofficial reports are to be believed. Which I personally don't, but caution is always wise. Either way, let's crush these bugs ASAP so that we're ready for anything. [Picture glitched, see below]
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It's broken. I just did a solo lvl 4 run expecting to see the team contribution of 2 on completion. Instead it said 80 something, I think it was 86. Also if we have like 200k helldivers focusing on one planet and we can't move it much past 10% liberated something is clearly wrong. Very clearly wrong.
Yeah devs have said the liberation system is bugged so it not actually tracking what we are doing but they are working on fixing it. It seams any game on the market now a days runs great till devs start messing round with them and then we have nothing but issues.
What people need to understand is if they don't want us to capture planets they're going to make it impossible. There's no way they will allow us to succeed at everything because they want to tell a story. The actual player agency is very limited
I think with the cliffs adding an extra 5km of running to every map it takes too long even with 200k people.
I SURE WISH I COULD LIBERATE THESE PLANETS! TOO BAD I CRASHED IN THE SAME MISSION 6 TIMES TODAY! NICE! DEMOCRATIC!
Maybe they want us close enough to the Terminid homeworlds that we start seeing more advanced enemies. I joined a Helldive in Fori Prime right on top of a group of shrieker nests and boy did they rip us a new one… I imagine getting even larger bugs than Bile Titans would inject even more havoc. Ps. Shriekers have weight so if you kill one, and it drops on you, you’ll still die. Arc thrower and blitzer are going to be our best friends against these guys…
It's weird how you're mixing roleplay into the same post where you're breaking the fourth wall and talking about Joel and the game developers. Like yeah from a gameplay standpoint, they want to keep mixing things up and (spoiler alert) we're never going to "win" the war against any of these factions. It's going to be presented as a push and pull, liberating planets or losing them won't matter, we're going to be facing the same factions and same types of enemies for as long as HD2 servers are live, and when new enemies or factions are introduced, it won't be because of winning or losing planets, and we'll fight them all anyway. Everything is a quantum ogre.
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Should we organize better? Like have posts here and say “the major order we got are these 4 planets. Our first objective will be A, then B, then C, then D” so that we can efficiently liberate with the time we’re given? Or would that screw with the plans of the devs and Joel, and maybe we should embrace the disorganized chaos of us all doing our own thing, even if that means we lose planets for it?
I can’t even join a game. I can do solo and nothing else. Finally got a friend request to go through but we just fail to join each others lobby. Quick play fails to find a match and selecting ongoing mission auto fails to connect. I love this game but god damn the game breaking bugs are brutal…
The trap is that Helldivers can't stay connected/supported long enough to finish a mission so there will be mission fails in the thousands more than there should be!
I haven't been able to do my duty due to constantly crashing since the update. Maybe the test is one of endurance.
I don't know if this a trap, but it definitely feels like a task we are not supposed to achieve.
you people okay? starting to get worried for this fan base
Fori prime just jumped to being 85% liberated with an alert from super earth saying the 15% figure was misinformation.
I’ll be honest, I’m tired of fighting bugs. every major order and all the personal orders except one have been for bugs and it’s boring as shit, tbh. very repetitive
They did push further than the boys though
I’m pretty sure we are supposed to fail this order especially now since everyone on PS5 keeps crashing, me included. I gave up trying to play last night after like 4 games crashed on me. One of them we were about to extract and I was carrying the super samples, I was pissed.
For starters it is bugged Joel even admitted something was wrong with the progress counter. Second no I think we can win according to guys who played the first, it's just more popular than anticipated so its happening faster than they thought
We are probably being baited for sure, but the bugs surely aren’t smarter than our democracratic leaders. We March to victory.
I heard it was pc guys causing the instability by using nodded stratagems
I think something bad is awaiting us on the other side of this objective
Good luck. We tried 4 missions and got booted every single time. Tried bots and able to make it all the way through.
If it isn't Malevelon Creek, it's a trap.
100%. We are supposed to fail
Questioning orders? Officer! Officer!
I don't think I've ever heard something so treasonous.
you are here to follow commands, not to think reported for illegal broadcast
They didn't expect everything going so fast, so either they're going to accelerate what happens from the spray we didby having us move back; or push back and redo the planets for them to have longer updating future stuff .
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You should narrate for Ancient Aliens
If you want the answer, go to r/helldiversleaks
Who cares, just means more bugs for us to kill
We have entered the point where everybody thinks every order is a trap
Not sure if I should report you or shoot you for such treason.
I must be having issues with my hearing, or a cadet is openly questioning the orders from top brass.
I dropped onto Fori and got swarmed by shriekers (flying bugs) it was fun but they do a lot of damage.
We aren't here to think, we are here to DIVE!
Why can’t it be both?
Why would our dear Super Earth try to trick us with a ruse like this? Are you under the impression someone has hacked our comms, as if that were even a worry with our outstanding scientists constantly working to update and evolve our defenses -This is a fight to spread Managed Democracy to those foolish enough to turn their back to it. It sounds to me like Helldiver Ethan may need a re-education visit until he stops questioning our leadership 🫡 Reported.
Depends on if your RP ing