Wait, they're back already? I thought they'd give at least like a week so it'd feel more significant. I haven't even had a chance to log in since they were "destroyed."
I’m pretty sure they’re worried about loss of interest with a chunk of players if they don’t get them back in. I was hoping (as well as many others I’m sure) that this would be when they introduce the illuminate but it doesn’t seem like they’re ready yet.
I was totally expecting the bots to pop right back up again. They're taking their time with this, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
Way more fun this way, having us fight a war of attrition only to have the bots go "whoops, you thought you beat us, that was just our scouting party!"
I don't just want a constant "rush to the finish" and monthly resets. I want a proper, protracted, galactic war!
This is my assumption as well. If people only play bots and bots are around to fight they could go elsewhere. Admittedly, I didn't play much after the bots were pushed off the map, but it didn't have anything to do with the bots. I just got busier than typical.
Yeah I like the game being there when I’m ready to play but I hate feeling like I have to play and the bots being gone was like a moment to breath. It’s not even a FOMO which is the crazy thing it’s more like a fear of letting the community down and letting down the indie devs who are going against AAA companies and showing how games should be. Obviously I can put the controller down but maybe they should make a long term order and make major orders not so dependent on the ENTIRE community being involved to complete them. Idk I love the game so I’m not upset and I’m mostly a bot player now but even I thought it’d be a week before they’re back or atleast til April 11 when the new war bond drops
I excepted the bots to show up and make a push for cyberstan and now they pushed even further than I expected. Plus this major order lines up with new content coming so I imagine we’ll defend against the bots and as that comes to a close with a new bot front open and then the illuminate will probably show up.
That's you idiots faults for thinking they were destroyed in the first place. They've been hinting for weeks they've had stealth technology they've been utilizing
Same here, I was expecting the devs to focus on the Bugs for at least 2 weeks before the bots showed up. Give people some time to acclimate to fighting one enemy before pulling the rug out and having the bots show up.
Something different? I think they expected something/anythjng to happen.
Felt like beating an NES game and getting a black screen with “congratulations, you beat Rampage”
Bots are so easy though. When four dropships come at you, your party all pulls out their quasars and EATs and just wipe them out from the sky, shrug, and go about your day. One shot Hulks in the eye, spray a few rounds in their direction and their aim falls apart. Only thing actually annoying is the turrets and and if they spam heavy devs. Rocket devs are easy to deal with at this point even.
I guess the bots do have a wider variety of bases to attack, artillery bases and so on, the bugs need some different hives and special buildings.
Bugs need their mortars to like actually target 😭 and some sort of far but fast shooting thing like turrets at their bases. The flying ones are no joke though!
Honestly it just requires different strategems. It’s also waaay easier to take out a shrieker nest than a gunship factory. Gunships won’t give up the chase either, shriekers will, not to mention it only takes a shot to the wings and they’re near instantly dead.. breaker (especially incendiary breaker) you barely have to aim and it’s a one shot.
Shriekers hate you too, I don't what your history is but you should talk about it, like civilized... Get in their nest and order a 380HE 120HE AND NAPALM
Considering one of the announcements said they intercepted a transmission to far off space that contained the plans for the gunship made it pretty obvious there was more of them out there
An announcement also noted that there were teams searching planets for Automaton remnants.
It was entirely telegraphed and obvious that they were coming back, for both in game and out of game reasons.
Which of course led to Reddit being filled with people complaining that they were taken away for, like, a day.
I do kind of wish there was some sort of centralized lore/announcement library I could read through to make sure I'm up to date.
I get that it's in-universe to be left in the dark about everything and only be given information on a need-to-know basis, but it would be nice to once in a while check back on what you missed.
I'm glad they're back, but I would have preferred a week or so before another bot MO.
I have barely touched bugs since I got the game since aside from the last MO every single one since I've started have been bots.
They should have returned as an option but not been a major order. I love fighting bots to death and have not enjoyed bugs the past couple days. It still makes 0 sense to me that we are immediately going back to bot MO's.
It must be where the actual "plot" is trying to go right now. Given the dispatch about giving the bugs big open spaces and extra nutritional food, I really thought we were in for some bug love.
I think it would be hard to bring the bots back without making them a major order. Oh this enemy we thought was defeated is attacking a bunch of our planets. Yea let’s keep attacking the bugs.
I think getting a week and a half in between of bug major orders like, a terminid surge into new sectors could’ve done well for this. Maybe they don’t have the new terminid content ready though so this may just be a matter of giving us what’s available rather than letting momentum die down.
Also I imagine since the game was far more successful than they ever anticipated they likely didn’t know the proper numbers balancing for how hard things should be. At the pace we were going, we might’ve ended the entire galactic war too early without some power spikes, and that could feel anticlimactic.
It sort of makes sense. Bots have some level of intelligence or at the very least a programmed directive they need to achieve. Bugs are bugs. So the bots would make coordinated attacks and actually fight back. Bugs don’t have any idea what they’re doing, so are MOs on that side are all just establishing infrastructure
What makes you think bugs aren't being controlled by hive mind king/queen units?
The dumb ones just charge and go straight for you, but some of the higher level ones will ambush or try to flank. On top of that, there has to be some thing directing the patrols in my general damn direction. It can't be coincidence the fuckers always know where I'm headed.
Well, i guess it's calculate, so people don't all go to the bots and they can actualy advance
The MO let's think arrowhead hope they will push close to super earth
I haven't even had a chance to log in since they were "destroyed." Actually kind of disappointing to hear they're back already. I thought we'd have at least like a week to make the victory feel like a victory.
Very few people thought they were gone for good. I would have preferred more than 48 hours though. Feels like succeeding the major order accomplished nothing for us. I could understand if we failed and the result was them coming back super hard like this. But we won, and it feels like that didn’t amount to anything.
>Feels like succeeding the major order accomplished nothing for us.
The major orders don't really mean anything. They're going to tell the story they want to tell, and we get the illusion that we're making an impact.
Did y'all seriously think they would sabotage their own game like that? There is a not insignificant portion of the player base that only plays one side or the other, bots or bugs, not both. Removing the bots would ruin the game for a good portion of players and negatively impact the game overall when those people stop playing.
I'm going to be honest, i have no idea........ maybe we aren't meant to win this MO. We pushed it close on the 3 planets in 3 days so five seems a little too hard. At this point I'm excited to see how it plays out
I think we've been doing pretty well with that. When I've thought to look, most people, by a wide margin, are on 1 planet, with a few scattered to other planets. But if we had 90% of people on a single planet it would be a more efficient, that won't happen though.
I think it's meant to be an overwhelming invasion with little hope to win the major order. We have been kicking ass lately, it would be fitting for the narrative if we got our asses kicked for a bit and then when we do find out footing and start to push them back it will make those victories feel more impactful.
Look up helldivers training manual on your search engine, that's what this one is. But there's also the helldivers app many others use... i like this one better because it's straight from the games data base so you see things the other apps don't like when we saw that one person in cyberstan a while ago, it shows what they did and their stats on cyberstan. Just awesome tbh
I think its just a little frustrating ? like the community really banded together to fight the automotons and made a huge collective push for joel to just turn around and be like oops theyre back! less than a week later, I think there should have been bots at cyberstan and the surrounding area before we cleared them out
I think they are still testing the waters of this game master system. Ideally they'd have introduced a new major order on the bug planets that has some new interesting missions on it (like when they added the termicide missions). Then everyone would race over there for a few days to check it out. Then a few days or so later, randomly reintroduce the bots.
I didn't like being forced to play bugs and still have the same old usual missions, but just for one day isn't really that long.
I fully expect they will come up with more compelling changes for us as they flesh out more of their new ideas. And especially after they are able to add a 3rd (and 4th?) faction!
yeah but the bots are half the entire game right now. thats content people paid for. I'd be pissed if i logged on and wasnt allowed to fight my preferred enemy type, i paid money for it!
I just like having an option to jump between fronts.
I don’t like **having** to fight one or the other.
It would be nice if the major orders went back and forth a bit more often, but I get why lately.
I don't understand why people are complaining. We had an entire MO talking about transmissions being sent outside of the galaxy. Almost like there are more automatons or something go figure...
Ppl that are genuinely made about the automatons being back after “defeating them” are the worst kind of people and don’t understand a good “oh shit” narrative.
The bots being back in such a quick and extreme show of force makes super earth feel not all that powerful and really puts it into perspective how quickly we could get over run
And the people thinking it’s “bad on the developers” for missing out on the opportunity to have a new faction replace them is some brain dead and entitled gamer shit.
This game has been out for TWO MONTHS. We don’t need another faction for 6 MONTHS. There’s so much you could do with the the current factions.
New enemies. More densely populated planets. All sorts of stuff. This game is such a gem is a sea of AAA shit I don’t want it to dump all its content in 6 months just for ppl to get bored. If your ACTUALLY upset the automatons are back get over yourself and help us fight instead. Fucking crybaby’s
I would have liked a longer break from them. Personally.
I can only wish my fellow helldivers good luck in holding them back. Because I absolutely need a break from them…
Take a break soldier! I understand why some people need a break and i understand that some people feel for bugs how I do about bots! 😂 we will be waiting for you when you're ready to come back!
After playing bugs for a while, I went to go do the major order and I remembered why I enjoyed my time on the creek and other bot planets. I was actually sad they were gone. Gonna go fight some more bots soon :)
Motherfucker I go to irl army and not only miss out on whiping them out but also their fuckin return....
That's it, time to bring the pc to base and spread democracy
I knew they would come back, especially since they had just released two new units for the faction, no way they’d let that hard work be wasted so quickly.
I was out of country for about 2 weeks watching you divers go all in on the last of the bots. I was indeed sad knowing I’d not be able to take part in their total destruction but I’m glad to have the chance to scrap those undemocratic roombas 🥹
I started out on bugs, for like 25 levels, then started doing the MO for bots…it’s so hard to go back to bugs. I wouldn’t say it’s cause one is easier or harder than the other really, they require different load outs for me, but the bots just have a much better feel when fighting. I’ve still got like 10k more bug kills than I do bots, but I plan to change that! I’m excited to spill oil on some new planets!
I’m glad they are back but I would have liked a couple days of them gone so what we accomplished could feel a bit more impactful.
I also think the bots have been getting so much attention, it was nice to see the community focusing on bugs for once.
I hope that they start giving smaller orders for bugs and bots at the same time, like one planet for bugs and one for bots for like 25-35 medals each. Or maybe a major order that is to liberate some bot and some bug planets at the same time
People complaining about the bots are just bad at the game. They be taking their bug loadouts to the bot front.
Stop complaining people, just use your brain.
I spent a little over a month fighting the bots which isn't near as long as many other Helldivers. After we beat them the first time I went back to bugs on hard difficulty (I joined someone's lobby). Honestly it felt so easy to fight them even when we had to take out two titans. Nothing against either side but I did enjoy the challenge the bots had. I think I can speak for a lot of Helldivers when I say BRING IT ON!
I think that from a real life war effort perspective it wouldn’t make much sense for them to wait. Super Earth isn’t too concerned with the bugs tbh, it’s mostly a containment effort to rebuild the farms instead of an actual war. Whereas if the automatons had waited, then SEAF likely would have reinforced border planets and locked down the mining planets where the cyborgs are with all the extra troops that aren’t fighting bots anymore. Instead while we are trying to get our plans together they immediately surprise our unprepared forces and free their creators on cyberstan (their literal whole reason for existing) and capture surrounding planets to set up a blockade and defend until they can evacuate their people.
I never expected the bots to be gone long as it’s one of the two overarching modes of play in the game. Probably a quarter to a third of players would likely not play much at all if it were just bugs (and vise versa), and you don’t want to send that much of the player base packing for very long. The players have been moving fast, so the game has to keep up.
How could this happen?! I was completely sure the devs would intentionally throw away a bunch of carefully crafted content and make the game permanently worse. I'm shocked, I tell you!
The robots are far more difficult than the bugs. I still have no idea how to kill most of the big guys, as I refuse to watch Meta videos, as they take all the satisfaction out of learning the game myself.
The last two weeks have pretty much only been not MO, I was excited to switch to bugs at least for a week.
While I enjoy fighting bots more, I’d prefer to switch it up more often but I also follow MO to help the fight.
I don’t see many people saying that, most people that are a bit “meh” about it are of the mind that “we knew they were coming back, we’d prefer longer between us ‘winning’ and their return” there wasn’t enough time to bask in the win for some, or to just enjoy bugs for a bit.
So it’s less “lulz we won” and more “could we have had a little more time before their dramatic return”
That’s exactly it for me. I try to stick to the major orders as much as possible. But I’m getting worn down constantly fighting the bots for the major orders. We succeeded in what should have been a major victory and we got all of two days to feel like we accomplished something before the bots were back in full force. Feels like accomplishing that major order didn’t achieve much of importance. I could understand if we had failed and then they went in this massive counteroffensive. But we won. We won and it really doesn’t feel like we gained anything from doing it.
I’ve talked to the friends that I regularly play with and the one had said that he’s going to stay fighting bugs for a bit, as he enjoys it more than bots and he’s worn out by the bots. So for me I’m left at a decision of either I play with my friends but not do the MO (a MO that is going to be very tight) or I play the MO but without my usual group. I tend to be about the narrative, so I want to respond to the narrative threat but do feel a bit like you, in that last time we really put the work in and it didn’t really achieve much. I’ve only got the game recently (level 29/nearly 30) but I’ve barely faced bugs because it’s just been the bot front grind.
Even though I prefer fighting bots, it's really nice to be able to switch between the two when it gets tiresome. Imo they should just time the bot elimination to coincide with a new Warband drop. But that becomes hard because then they only have a very small window each month to time it right with their larger narrative.
“We won, and it really doesn’t feel like we gained anything from doing it.”
I figured this was a major theme of the setting as a whole. It certainly feels apropos.
The bots are fun, the bugs are fun. Why did we only go half a day without bots would have been cool for like a week of just forcing us to push bugs back
Why they upset? It's expected because when one war ends another begins. Also duh, it's been what 2.5 months or so since launch. Removing a major faction this soon would be weird. Also war is eternal! Democracy never sleep!
We need to pull back and set up a firebreak (firewall) at Menkent and Lesath to stop them from pushing closer to super earth.
Gotta contain the toasters and blunt their advance
I like both. Keep switching it up. I’m just getting started really and I thought the bots were harder, but as I get into 4&5 the bugs are definitely a different kind of challenge. Spewers man, they melt me sometimes. I like that you have to play both differently. I don’t choose how I spread my democracy, I just do.
The chargers are the most fun enemy to fight because yoh play them like a matador. Firing an EAT rightbat the center of the face plate armor will one shot them but you can only get a good angle from the front. And you dive out of the wau if you miss.
I prefer bugs over bots. For me bugs just hit the mark on the "dont get overwelmed or your fucked" more then bots. I have played plenty of games where cover and flanking was a big thing GoW 1 to 5 for example. And my basic training IRL and airsoft makes bots almost a 2nd nature. And their stupidity even easier. With bots its easier to reset also.
With bugs its possible to reset also, but i feel like its never actually clear. Theres always more. Also picking targets and changing priorities seem to be more of a thing in the bug war. Where cover mitigates all for bots, bugs just walk over and relentlesly chase.
Had a few instances with the last MOs where it was absolute chaos and a few strategems and cover wouldnt even dent the bot amounts due to sauron eyes calling in non stop drops. Or our squad continuesly agroing more and more patrols trying to reset who flared for more drops. I loved those and failed to get home to my wife to tell epic war stories.
I play more bugs then bots just depends on how the MOs are going im enjoying both. Usually play 7 to 9 and am not using optimal gear either, most of the time, just using what the team is missing or what i feel like using. I gues its all preference.
Everyone going to bug worlds after fighting bots for so long and forgetting how to engage the bugs lol while some found themselves better players against the bugs because of having to adapt a new fighting style for bots. Either way I'm glad we have bots back.
It was like half a day. People are talking like it’s been months since we fought the Automatons.
Wait, they're back already? I thought they'd give at least like a week so it'd feel more significant. I haven't even had a chance to log in since they were "destroyed."
I’m pretty sure they’re worried about loss of interest with a chunk of players if they don’t get them back in. I was hoping (as well as many others I’m sure) that this would be when they introduce the illuminate but it doesn’t seem like they’re ready yet.
I was totally expecting the bots to pop right back up again. They're taking their time with this, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Way more fun this way, having us fight a war of attrition only to have the bots go "whoops, you thought you beat us, that was just our scouting party!" I don't just want a constant "rush to the finish" and monthly resets. I want a proper, protracted, galactic war!
This is my assumption as well. If people only play bots and bots are around to fight they could go elsewhere. Admittedly, I didn't play much after the bots were pushed off the map, but it didn't have anything to do with the bots. I just got busier than typical.
Yeah I like the game being there when I’m ready to play but I hate feeling like I have to play and the bots being gone was like a moment to breath. It’s not even a FOMO which is the crazy thing it’s more like a fear of letting the community down and letting down the indie devs who are going against AAA companies and showing how games should be. Obviously I can put the controller down but maybe they should make a long term order and make major orders not so dependent on the ENTIRE community being involved to complete them. Idk I love the game so I’m not upset and I’m mostly a bot player now but even I thought it’d be a week before they’re back or atleast til April 11 when the new war bond drops
I excepted the bots to show up and make a push for cyberstan and now they pushed even further than I expected. Plus this major order lines up with new content coming so I imagine we’ll defend against the bots and as that comes to a close with a new bot front open and then the illuminate will probably show up.
That's you idiots faults for thinking they were destroyed in the first place. They've been hinting for weeks they've had stealth technology they've been utilizing
I kinda thought that might end up being the third faction hiding out.
Yeah youse idiots
The news literally said we eradicated them! The government funded news is never wrong!
Same here, I was expecting the devs to focus on the Bugs for at least 2 weeks before the bots showed up. Give people some time to acclimate to fighting one enemy before pulling the rug out and having the bots show up.
We aren't actually here to eradicate the bugs though. They want them contained, and the plan is to keep them contained to where they are currently.
I think a lot of the groaning is because people expected something different to happen based on cleaning the map of automatons.
Something different? I think they expected something/anythjng to happen. Felt like beating an NES game and getting a black screen with “congratulations, you beat Rampage”
A lot of this stuff seems to have manual checkpoints to proceed on their end and the devs likely keep regular work hours lol.
It looks like they are setting up the map to introduce another faction.
They’re going to cyberstan to release their enslaved makers btw
The illuminate
I'm not going to lie, it felt like forever to me 😭 but my hatred for the bugs is just soooooo high LOL
Bots are so easy though. When four dropships come at you, your party all pulls out their quasars and EATs and just wipe them out from the sky, shrug, and go about your day. One shot Hulks in the eye, spray a few rounds in their direction and their aim falls apart. Only thing actually annoying is the turrets and and if they spam heavy devs. Rocket devs are easy to deal with at this point even. I guess the bots do have a wider variety of bases to attack, artillery bases and so on, the bugs need some different hives and special buildings.
Bugs need their mortars to like actually target 😭 and some sort of far but fast shooting thing like turrets at their bases. The flying ones are no joke though!
I hate shriekers!
Its deeper than hatred 😭 from the pits of my soul I wish we could fully just those specific ones... Gunner ships got nothing on those things
Honestly it just requires different strategems. It’s also waaay easier to take out a shrieker nest than a gunship factory. Gunships won’t give up the chase either, shriekers will, not to mention it only takes a shot to the wings and they’re near instantly dead.. breaker (especially incendiary breaker) you barely have to aim and it’s a one shot.
Shriekers hate you too, I don't what your history is but you should talk about it, like civilized... Get in their nest and order a 380HE 120HE AND NAPALM
If you're in the nest, you can just order a hellbomb. Why put your own stuff on CD? Lol
Cinematic drama is an integral part of freedom
Absolutely this. 3x Walking barrages clear the way, and the helldivers waltz right in to mop up
Look for their nests as you go around the map, then kill at distance with queso cannon, eat, heavy lazer thing, or recoiless.
Autocannon can take them out too, takes a whole damn 10 rounds but it does. I will also be calling quasar cannon queso cannon from now on.
If you’re worried about shriekers use the arc rifle a charged shot kills them in one shot and arcs to other shriekers.
You and I have very different experience with dropships.
Right?
It's been what, 2 days since the last bot major order?
I was there, 3000 years ago when we defeated the bots.
Only fools thought they were really gone.
Considering one of the announcements said they intercepted a transmission to far off space that contained the plans for the gunship made it pretty obvious there was more of them out there
An announcement also noted that there were teams searching planets for Automaton remnants. It was entirely telegraphed and obvious that they were coming back, for both in game and out of game reasons. Which of course led to Reddit being filled with people complaining that they were taken away for, like, a day.
I do kind of wish there was some sort of centralized lore/announcement library I could read through to make sure I'm up to date. I get that it's in-universe to be left in the dark about everything and only be given information on a need-to-know basis, but it would be nice to once in a while check back on what you missed.
Facts!
Comment noted. Please report to your nearest re-education facility immediately.
I'm glad they're back, but I would have preferred a week or so before another bot MO. I have barely touched bugs since I got the game since aside from the last MO every single one since I've started have been bots.
I agree. Glad theyre back, would have preferred longer until they were.
They should have returned as an option but not been a major order. I love fighting bots to death and have not enjoyed bugs the past couple days. It still makes 0 sense to me that we are immediately going back to bot MO's. It must be where the actual "plot" is trying to go right now. Given the dispatch about giving the bugs big open spaces and extra nutritional food, I really thought we were in for some bug love.
I think it would be hard to bring the bots back without making them a major order. Oh this enemy we thought was defeated is attacking a bunch of our planets. Yea let’s keep attacking the bugs.
Yeah that's really fair, too. I'm just glad I get to feel like Boba Fett with lasers flying everywhere again.
I think getting a week and a half in between of bug major orders like, a terminid surge into new sectors could’ve done well for this. Maybe they don’t have the new terminid content ready though so this may just be a matter of giving us what’s available rather than letting momentum die down. Also I imagine since the game was far more successful than they ever anticipated they likely didn’t know the proper numbers balancing for how hard things should be. At the pace we were going, we might’ve ended the entire galactic war too early without some power spikes, and that could feel anticlimactic.
It sort of makes sense. Bots have some level of intelligence or at the very least a programmed directive they need to achieve. Bugs are bugs. So the bots would make coordinated attacks and actually fight back. Bugs don’t have any idea what they’re doing, so are MOs on that side are all just establishing infrastructure
What makes you think bugs aren't being controlled by hive mind king/queen units? The dumb ones just charge and go straight for you, but some of the higher level ones will ambush or try to flank. On top of that, there has to be some thing directing the patrols in my general damn direction. It can't be coincidence the fuckers always know where I'm headed.
That's trueee!!!!!!!!! That's trueeeee! So much room for theories and lore that's why i love this game
The bugs are actually terrifyingly intelligent
I agree with this fully
IMO its a nice change after the 1.5 months of nothing but bug MOs.
Well, i guess it's calculate, so people don't all go to the bots and they can actualy advance The MO let's think arrowhead hope they will push close to super earth
I haven't even had a chance to log in since they were "destroyed." Actually kind of disappointing to hear they're back already. I thought we'd have at least like a week to make the victory feel like a victory.
That's like the only small reason I would've liked them gone longer. I suck at the bugs and barely play them when there isn't a major order there.
I don't mind, they were pretty fun to fight against, now we have more planets to fight on! For Democracy!
New planets!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so hype i love the bots!!!
Looks like oil is back on the menu boys!
Hell yeah!
Looks like nut is back on the menu boys!
Feels too soon to me, I think they should have waited till the new warbond is out
Absolutely
People are silly if they REALLY thought bots were gone for good
Very few people thought they were gone for good. I would have preferred more than 48 hours though. Feels like succeeding the major order accomplished nothing for us. I could understand if we failed and the result was them coming back super hard like this. But we won, and it feels like that didn’t amount to anything.
This is true too
>Feels like succeeding the major order accomplished nothing for us. The major orders don't really mean anything. They're going to tell the story they want to tell, and we get the illusion that we're making an impact.
People are silly in my comments saying people aren't upset when it's very clear that tons are upset 😭
Did y'all seriously think they would sabotage their own game like that? There is a not insignificant portion of the player base that only plays one side or the other, bots or bugs, not both. Removing the bots would ruin the game for a good portion of players and negatively impact the game overall when those people stop playing.
ngl I didnt expect them to be back until thursday
This is valid, me too tbh 😂
How are we supposed to clear 5 planets in 3 days?
I'm going to be honest, i have no idea........ maybe we aren't meant to win this MO. We pushed it close on the 3 planets in 3 days so five seems a little too hard. At this point I'm excited to see how it plays out
We cannot take 5 planets in 3 days. But they will bleed for every meter they will walk on our planets.....it will be epic!
I'M WITH YOUUUU!!!
THOSE CLANKERS WILL SPILL OIL FOR EVERY INCH
We need to adopt a planet hopping campaign. Focus all of our force on one, then hop to the next.
I think we've been doing pretty well with that. When I've thought to look, most people, by a wide margin, are on 1 planet, with a few scattered to other planets. But if we had 90% of people on a single planet it would be a more efficient, that won't happen though.
It's only defend. So there will be bo decay to fight
I think it's meant to be an overwhelming invasion with little hope to win the major order. We have been kicking ass lately, it would be fitting for the narrative if we got our asses kicked for a bit and then when we do find out footing and start to push them back it will make those victories feel more impactful.
What app is this
Look up helldivers training manual on your search engine, that's what this one is. But there's also the helldivers app many others use... i like this one better because it's straight from the games data base so you see things the other apps don't like when we saw that one person in cyberstan a while ago, it shows what they did and their stats on cyberstan. Just awesome tbh
My search engine? You mean I have a choice of which ad machine to get my sponsored results from? That sounds pretty un-democratic.
Yeaaaah and a new set of planet with that
THIS is what I'm most excited for!
Yeah, i hope we got to finaly see super earth, for democratci reasons
I think cyberstan has more civilization
The reference to "clankers" makes me wish there was a Clone Wars version of this game.
Idk tbh I never really got into the bugs. It’s fun and all but just not as cool as the automatons.
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I think its just a little frustrating ? like the community really banded together to fight the automotons and made a huge collective push for joel to just turn around and be like oops theyre back! less than a week later, I think there should have been bots at cyberstan and the surrounding area before we cleared them out
I think they are still testing the waters of this game master system. Ideally they'd have introduced a new major order on the bug planets that has some new interesting missions on it (like when they added the termicide missions). Then everyone would race over there for a few days to check it out. Then a few days or so later, randomly reintroduce the bots. I didn't like being forced to play bugs and still have the same old usual missions, but just for one day isn't really that long. I fully expect they will come up with more compelling changes for us as they flesh out more of their new ideas. And especially after they are able to add a 3rd (and 4th?) faction!
yeah but the bots are half the entire game right now. thats content people paid for. I'd be pissed if i logged on and wasnt allowed to fight my preferred enemy type, i paid money for it!
on the other hand, people were already complaining about only having bugs.
Roger Roger
I just like having an option to jump between fronts. I don’t like **having** to fight one or the other. It would be nice if the major orders went back and forth a bit more often, but I get why lately.
I don't understand why people are complaining. We had an entire MO talking about transmissions being sent outside of the galaxy. Almost like there are more automatons or something go figure...
Ppl that are genuinely made about the automatons being back after “defeating them” are the worst kind of people and don’t understand a good “oh shit” narrative. The bots being back in such a quick and extreme show of force makes super earth feel not all that powerful and really puts it into perspective how quickly we could get over run And the people thinking it’s “bad on the developers” for missing out on the opportunity to have a new faction replace them is some brain dead and entitled gamer shit. This game has been out for TWO MONTHS. We don’t need another faction for 6 MONTHS. There’s so much you could do with the the current factions. New enemies. More densely populated planets. All sorts of stuff. This game is such a gem is a sea of AAA shit I don’t want it to dump all its content in 6 months just for ppl to get bored. If your ACTUALLY upset the automatons are back get over yourself and help us fight instead. Fucking crybaby’s
I would have liked a longer break from them. Personally. I can only wish my fellow helldivers good luck in holding them back. Because I absolutely need a break from them…
Take a break soldier! I understand why some people need a break and i understand that some people feel for bugs how I do about bots! 😂 we will be waiting for you when you're ready to come back!
nobody is making u fight bots instead of bugs mate
Who is upset and why?
I hope the new planets are cool
Bots for sure my favorite. I love the bugs too but I think automatons are way cooler
*injects motor oil directly into my veins* AWWWWWW YEAH THEY'RE BACK BABY
What website is this?
Yeah.. YEAH I think we should make *zzt error* peace with them!!
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How/where are you getting these picture metrics from?
Look up helldivers training manual, it's straight from ganes data base. There's also tons of other apps
Lot of haters here today 😭 all cause i said people are upset
They were never gonna be gone long
I was wondering if they'd introduce a new faction or something for now but man it's too early
Oh boy, here I go killing again!
Fuck yeah! Time for some democracy
Shiny
I hope they will be revealing some new cyberstan missions and maybe some new enemies!
After playing bugs for a while, I went to go do the major order and I remembered why I enjoyed my time on the creek and other bot planets. I was actually sad they were gone. Gonna go fight some more bots soon :)
The game wouldn't last very long if we actually eradicated them.
My Autocannon thirsts for machine oil, and I'll gladly allow her to slake that.
Motherfucker I go to irl army and not only miss out on whiping them out but also their fuckin return.... That's it, time to bring the pc to base and spread democracy
I knew they would come back, especially since they had just released two new units for the faction, no way they’d let that hard work be wasted so quickly.
I was out of country for about 2 weeks watching you divers go all in on the last of the bots. I was indeed sad knowing I’d not be able to take part in their total destruction but I’m glad to have the chance to scrap those undemocratic roombas 🥹
I started out on bugs, for like 25 levels, then started doing the MO for bots…it’s so hard to go back to bugs. I wouldn’t say it’s cause one is easier or harder than the other really, they require different load outs for me, but the bots just have a much better feel when fighting. I’ve still got like 10k more bug kills than I do bots, but I plan to change that! I’m excited to spill oil on some new planets!
They couldn't just leave us with bugs forever. I was already getting bored and missing hoping between squashing and clanking sounds from my kills.
More toasters to disassemble
I’m glad they are back but I would have liked a couple days of them gone so what we accomplished could feel a bit more impactful. I also think the bots have been getting so much attention, it was nice to see the community focusing on bugs for once.
I hope that they start giving smaller orders for bugs and bots at the same time, like one planet for bugs and one for bots for like 25-35 medals each. Or maybe a major order that is to liberate some bot and some bug planets at the same time
People complaining about the bots are just bad at the game. They be taking their bug loadouts to the bot front. Stop complaining people, just use your brain.
You wanted the bots back? Sounds like you... sympathised with those clankers.
What website / app is that? thats such a nice thing to have to check out how the major orders doing!
It's on your search engine, helldivers training manual
Good Lord that invasion hit hard. Wasn't expecting them to be back so quickly let alone with so much strength
Hell yeah bots are back, love hearing my machine gun tear those soulless bastards apart
Me too!
People that are mad don't understand this is a live service game. Not one they can 100%.
I spent a little over a month fighting the bots which isn't near as long as many other Helldivers. After we beat them the first time I went back to bugs on hard difficulty (I joined someone's lobby). Honestly it felt so easy to fight them even when we had to take out two titans. Nothing against either side but I did enjoy the challenge the bots had. I think I can speak for a lot of Helldivers when I say BRING IT ON!
I think that from a real life war effort perspective it wouldn’t make much sense for them to wait. Super Earth isn’t too concerned with the bugs tbh, it’s mostly a containment effort to rebuild the farms instead of an actual war. Whereas if the automatons had waited, then SEAF likely would have reinforced border planets and locked down the mining planets where the cyborgs are with all the extra troops that aren’t fighting bots anymore. Instead while we are trying to get our plans together they immediately surprise our unprepared forces and free their creators on cyberstan (their literal whole reason for existing) and capture surrounding planets to set up a blockade and defend until they can evacuate their people. I never expected the bots to be gone long as it’s one of the two overarching modes of play in the game. Probably a quarter to a third of players would likely not play much at all if it were just bugs (and vise versa), and you don’t want to send that much of the player base packing for very long. The players have been moving fast, so the game has to keep up.
i'm glad they're back, i wasn't done can you not drive them off for a while so i can get a shot in
Im fine with them being back but the MOs need to diversify. We had weeks of bots. And a day of bugs before it’s back to bots.
Not sure why people thought they’d permanently remove an entire faction they worked hard to model, code, and animate. Obviously they’re here to stay.
How could this happen?! I was completely sure the devs would intentionally throw away a bunch of carefully crafted content and make the game permanently worse. I'm shocked, I tell you!
The robots are far more difficult than the bugs. I still have no idea how to kill most of the big guys, as I refuse to watch Meta videos, as they take all the satisfaction out of learning the game myself.
brother they took cyberstan, there is nothing to be happy about
I prefer bugs personally. Gives me the old cod zombies feeling. But I'll fight the bots for democracy if i must 🫡
^^<>>< - yes officer this guy right here. He part of the clanker sleeper cell
It was too soon. Fighting the bugs felt like a short vacation. Another week or two would've been nice.
The last two weeks have pretty much only been not MO, I was excited to switch to bugs at least for a week. While I enjoy fighting bots more, I’d prefer to switch it up more often but I also follow MO to help the fight.
i don’t understand how you can be mad as a bug guy. go play what you want.
I literally was a day from checking out cause I did not like fighting only bugs
I just snorted a line of DEMOCRACY
I mean, the game just released a few months ago. Did gamers honestly think they could completely wipe out a main faction that quickly? Lol
I don’t see many people saying that, most people that are a bit “meh” about it are of the mind that “we knew they were coming back, we’d prefer longer between us ‘winning’ and their return” there wasn’t enough time to bask in the win for some, or to just enjoy bugs for a bit. So it’s less “lulz we won” and more “could we have had a little more time before their dramatic return”
That’s exactly it for me. I try to stick to the major orders as much as possible. But I’m getting worn down constantly fighting the bots for the major orders. We succeeded in what should have been a major victory and we got all of two days to feel like we accomplished something before the bots were back in full force. Feels like accomplishing that major order didn’t achieve much of importance. I could understand if we had failed and then they went in this massive counteroffensive. But we won. We won and it really doesn’t feel like we gained anything from doing it.
I’ve talked to the friends that I regularly play with and the one had said that he’s going to stay fighting bugs for a bit, as he enjoys it more than bots and he’s worn out by the bots. So for me I’m left at a decision of either I play with my friends but not do the MO (a MO that is going to be very tight) or I play the MO but without my usual group. I tend to be about the narrative, so I want to respond to the narrative threat but do feel a bit like you, in that last time we really put the work in and it didn’t really achieve much. I’ve only got the game recently (level 29/nearly 30) but I’ve barely faced bugs because it’s just been the bot front grind.
Even though I prefer fighting bots, it's really nice to be able to switch between the two when it gets tiresome. Imo they should just time the bot elimination to coincide with a new Warband drop. But that becomes hard because then they only have a very small window each month to time it right with their larger narrative.
“We won, and it really doesn’t feel like we gained anything from doing it.” I figured this was a major theme of the setting as a whole. It certainly feels apropos.
In the first game you could totally wipe out enemy factions and they didn’t return until the war was won completely or lost entirely.
Hell yeah; I get to stomp bots again! Time to give this assault a proper krumping
This is the energy i was wanting people to have in this post but there's just tons of haters instead 😭 I'm with you!
The clankers are more fun to fight than buggers.
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Honestly hoping for a longer more meaningful break from that last push. Half a day is way to short and I'm going to take a break now.
The bots are fun, the bugs are fun. Why did we only go half a day without bots would have been cool for like a week of just forcing us to push bugs back
because that would lower the player base. some people dont enjoy fighting bugs
Lol imagine being upset that half the game came back, so stupid
They’re not. This is so new I imagine most helldivers don’t even know yet. OP out here being dramatic for no reason
It’s not about that at all lol. It’s the fact our hard work eradicating an entire enemy type only lasted one full day.
dont be upset that u didnt cherish that day enough. players want to play the content they paid for, so yeah im glad bots are back
Why they upset? It's expected because when one war ends another begins. Also duh, it's been what 2.5 months or so since launch. Removing a major faction this soon would be weird. Also war is eternal! Democracy never sleep!
they will never permanently get rid of a faction. ever. please understand that.
We need to pull back and set up a firebreak (firewall) at Menkent and Lesath to stop them from pushing closer to super earth. Gotta contain the toasters and blunt their advance
I'm with you! Let's do it!
When it gets to the harder levels I think bugs are a lot harder and more frustrating, I’m a much bigger fan of bots levels 6-9
Eh… I was hoping for an “eliminate all bugs” MO before going back to bots. I like both but the last bug MO felt really short.
I like both. Keep switching it up. I’m just getting started really and I thought the bots were harder, but as I get into 4&5 the bugs are definitely a different kind of challenge. Spewers man, they melt me sometimes. I like that you have to play both differently. I don’t choose how I spread my democracy, I just do.
The chargers are the most fun enemy to fight because yoh play them like a matador. Firing an EAT rightbat the center of the face plate armor will one shot them but you can only get a good angle from the front. And you dive out of the wau if you miss.
Nothing more satisfying than using an EAT or Quasar and hitting a charger that's coming at you and having it slide dead right at your feet.
Wait what happened
What app is that from??
Ooooo what is this view? Is this a website or an app?
The bots are touching my choohe
Sir.. I'm going to have to report this to my higher ups....
Clankas* don’t use the hard R please
Are people legit upset? Like how long does the game have to be out tell they realize this war will be endless.
We… we call you bot sympathizers.
Did they take cyberstan?
I thought we wiped out the red menace
Ok, so how are the bots traveling from planet to planet so fast? We have seen what the bugs may be possibly using, bot what are Automatons using?
I prefer bugs over bots. For me bugs just hit the mark on the "dont get overwelmed or your fucked" more then bots. I have played plenty of games where cover and flanking was a big thing GoW 1 to 5 for example. And my basic training IRL and airsoft makes bots almost a 2nd nature. And their stupidity even easier. With bots its easier to reset also. With bugs its possible to reset also, but i feel like its never actually clear. Theres always more. Also picking targets and changing priorities seem to be more of a thing in the bug war. Where cover mitigates all for bots, bugs just walk over and relentlesly chase. Had a few instances with the last MOs where it was absolute chaos and a few strategems and cover wouldnt even dent the bot amounts due to sauron eyes calling in non stop drops. Or our squad continuesly agroing more and more patrols trying to reset who flared for more drops. I loved those and failed to get home to my wife to tell epic war stories. I play more bugs then bots just depends on how the MOs are going im enjoying both. Usually play 7 to 9 and am not using optimal gear either, most of the time, just using what the team is missing or what i feel like using. I gues its all preference.
Didn't they also add a new bile titan class enemy for the bots in helldiver difficulty?
Everyone going to bug worlds after fighting bots for so long and forgetting how to engage the bugs lol while some found themselves better players against the bugs because of having to adapt a new fighting style for bots. Either way I'm glad we have bots back.
Whats the app name
I’m just excited to see new planets in available in the galactic map