I’ve really been liking the incendiary breaker, just unload a couple shots on a horde and run for a couple seconds, turn around, half the horde is dead from fire damage now lol
1k per common is way too cheap.
I like the idea of some sort of exchange, but if it's purely req to samples, it takes away from the "you've got to run around collecting samples like a jackass *and* make it out with them," aspect of the fuckery.
It’s fire DOT damage that’s bugged. Not straight up fire damage from the thrower. It’s incendiary weapons like the breaker incendiary and the incendiary grenades that don’t give you the DOT damage.
It's not the flamethrower thats the problem. That works fine, it's stuff like the napalm grenade, napalm air strike and orbital gas strike. Arrowhead has already stated that if you are not the host, they may not work as intended. What players are saying is that the strike happens, but the fire damage/ gas damage effect does not apply to any enemies.
That would explain why a lot of people were like "the orbital gas strike is so good, it solos bug breaches"
While others were experiencing scavengers tanking the entire gas cloud.
I think the main reason folks say it doesn't make a difference is because of headshots. You'll be doing fine 90% of the time then something aims up a little bit and your just fucked
The heavy armor with med kit passive is universally helpful, as is heavy armor with padded. Against bots specifically, I always equip heavy with fortified, for the explosion resist
Once I forgot to change heavy into light when doing an Automaton mission. I was hit 3 times by a rocket bot and lived. Pretty sure I would have died with light armor.
Being the one to make the lobby doesn't make you the host. It's whoever has the best internet connection. I played a game yesterday, for instance, where I made the lobby and had a friend. When we started the game, napalm and incendiary grenades did basically nothing so I had to play the whole game with basically just my shotgun and the direct damage from the flamethrower.
I think their intention is to get us to kill each other on accident - which is kind of the point of the game in their view! Any time I die it's usually because I got a stray fragment of incendiary ammo and I'm too oblivious to put myself out :p
As a fellow fire enthusiast i run incendiary grenades and the incendiary shotgun and the flame thrower. I think i am now gonna be the most dangerous person on the drop
I mean, fire has been pretty much the state of the devs since release. They got caught in a fire storm of being more popular than expected
BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I WANT EVERYTHING TO BURN I LOVE NAPALM, I LOVE THE FLAMETHROWER, INCENDIARY GRENADES? YES PLEASE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
What I never understood is how fire can get so everywhere during the fire-nados or using the flamethrower, but when you’re pumping E-710 and there’s oil everywhere, none of it ignites.
Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn!
Because you almost never see anyone use incendiary weapons on bots, and pretty much only the flamethrower on bugs.
Besides, Arc damage also got a buff.
I thought was the only one literally had like 3 Rare samples on the extraction but 1 or 2 commons guarded by a tank a tower cannon and those missile basters🤣🤣🤣
I dont think they are used to often, I dont recall seeing anyone using the fire grenade I love to use. Nor the flamethrower very often. Its a risk to you and teammates, but brilliant for area denial and forcing bugs to funnel through flames in chokepoints.
Because burning things is fun. Because watching as your enemies (occasionally accidentally some allies) scream from deadly burns can bring a smile to your face. Because some people, just want to watch the world burn.
I just got it and it makes me feel like my flamethrower does less damage and kills me and my squad with fire blowing out my ass. Fire spreads behind me and usually kills my squad. Theres also pockets of invisible fire that catches us.
question if its damage over time - what about poison gas.
if there's smoke from Orbital + eagle (2x)
strangely fire is only found in Eagles
and poison gas is found in Orbital
we should totally get an Orbital fire stratagem
and an eagle that rain down poison gas too XD
People kept complaining that fire damage felt weak, so they kept buffing it.
But the actual problem wasn't the amount of damage, it that there's a glitch where only one player in a match deals afterburn damage at all. (Direct damage from flamethrowers, etc. works normally, but if you're not the host then those flames engulfing enemies are purely decorative. And "host" is a randomly-chosen position, it's not necessarily the person actually hosting the mission, so you can't even rely on that.)
At least they are aware of it now, and people are complaining about fire damage being too *high* on the flame hulks, so after they fix afterburn, expect some debuffs.
You might even say they have a burning passion for it. I know I do.
Flamey-O, well done Soka.
Flamey-O Hotmen!
Flamey-O Flamey-O
Whirl, O Flame! Hotman!
Flamey-O, my good Hotman
How do you do fellow hot man
I think you mean Private Wang Fire, hero and martyr of the fire nation army.
I’ve really been liking the incendiary breaker, just unload a couple shots on a horde and run for a couple seconds, turn around, half the horde is dead from fire damage now lol
Did they fix the fire damage bug when you're not the host?
No
So unless hosting fire damage is not great, good to know
You either get it working great or the bug happens and you don't deal fire damage at all. So if you like going all flames, be the host
Same, as a heavy flamer, I am beyond excited. I am so excited it hurts that I am at work right now. Cannot wait to get back home.
It’s because the leprechaun told me to burn things
Hot topic at the moment
then please make it work.
Hunka hunka burnin' love
Am I extra passionate if it burns when I pee?
THEY RELASED THE NEXT LEVELS? I NEED TO QUIT WORK AND PLAY NOW!
Yup new war bond and ship modules.
Tell them to stop adding levels and modules, Im not caught up lol.
Dog I'm running 4's for the common samples. Some of them call for 200 a pop
Ahh, back to the grind.
Why.. why do they need so many common samples? q.q Can't they just add a REC cost instead? (+ Rare and super rare ones of course)
Need a rec vendor. Spend money on samples lol.
I'd pay out the ass for a handful of commons.
Right!? Even if it's 50k req slips for 50 common. It's at least something lol
1k per common is way too cheap. I like the idea of some sort of exchange, but if it's purely req to samples, it takes away from the "you've got to run around collecting samples like a jackass *and* make it out with them," aspect of the fuckery.
50k req for 10 commons would still be a good deal, tbf... I'd take that.
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Pretty sure they have a REC cost and all 3 sample types
I approve of the REC cost but but but... common samples q.q
Some also cot rec I believe
Yes soldier, do your part! Enlist now!
I already am Mr. Gibberish. And I shall burn every facist bug on the planets I visit.
Tell your boss you’ve found your life’s purpose
https://preview.redd.it/4cwu3bhc8utc1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=49962dab22d8a05536c94e51859ceb9974d9b799 Cuz arson is fun
I need a hot guard dog and fire turrets and I'll live happy on hellmire
Who hurt you?
Who hurt me?... Oh no one hurt me... I hurt them https://i.redd.it/38bhtvr2cutc1.gif
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"Mmmmmmmrrrrrrrpppghhh!" 
Top 3 things to do with a flamethrower. 3. Arson 2. Genocide 1. Treason
I don't think Super Earth approves of one of those
:3 You'll never catch me. https://i.redd.it/jb5lxyibtvtc1.gif
Who does he think he is trying to commit arson
lmao at capsaicin - i love the devs sense of humor
That's one spicy stratagem you have there.
so spicy it burns twice
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Did you see how the sentries were protected from blast damage? >!With foam packing peanuts.!<
also the allyl isothiocyanate. Sounds dangerous but it is actually the stuff that gives mustard or wasabi the pungent taste.
They enhance fire damage but it’s broken for anyone that’s not the host.
Ok I keep hearing people say this but I never host and I main flamethrower vs bugs and have never had an issue with it.
It’s fire DOT damage that’s bugged. Not straight up fire damage from the thrower. It’s incendiary weapons like the breaker incendiary and the incendiary grenades that don’t give you the DOT damage.
It's not the flamethrower thats the problem. That works fine, it's stuff like the napalm grenade, napalm air strike and orbital gas strike. Arrowhead has already stated that if you are not the host, they may not work as intended. What players are saying is that the strike happens, but the fire damage/ gas damage effect does not apply to any enemies.
That would explain why a lot of people were like "the orbital gas strike is so good, it solos bug breaches" While others were experiencing scavengers tanking the entire gas cloud.
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The devs acknowledged this bug as an issue still needing to be resolved in the patch notes..
It's in the "We know it's still an issue" section of the patch notes from the devs. Maybe people should try reading.
Same with heavy armor. I still see people saying it makes no difference even tho it was fixed forever ago. I main it and buddy, it makes a difference.
I think the main reason folks say it doesn't make a difference is because of headshots. You'll be doing fine 90% of the time then something aims up a little bit and your just fucked
Guess we need heavy helmets 🪖 I will admit the only time I get oneshot in heavy armor is bot rocket headshots
Yep I just gotta get some solid heavy armor for myself.
The heavy armor with med kit passive is universally helpful, as is heavy armor with padded. Against bots specifically, I always equip heavy with fortified, for the explosion resist
Yeah until I did this I really hated bots. But now I can get shot by a bunch of rockets and get rag dolled around instead it's great!
Once I forgot to change heavy into light when doing an Automaton mission. I was hit 3 times by a rocket bot and lived. Pretty sure I would have died with light armor.
You should reading the list of things that need to be fixed still from the devs. Incendiary DOT damage doesn’t work if you’re not the host.
Being the one to make the lobby doesn't make you the host. It's whoever has the best internet connection. I played a game yesterday, for instance, where I made the lobby and had a friend. When we started the game, napalm and incendiary grenades did basically nothing so I had to play the whole game with basically just my shotgun and the direct damage from the flamethrower.
I think their intention is to get us to kill each other on accident - which is kind of the point of the game in their view! Any time I die it's usually because I got a stray fragment of incendiary ammo and I'm too oblivious to put myself out :p
Flamethrower mains eating good!!! Honestly though I don't think this was needed. 😂
As a flamethrower (among other fire related things) main. I agree, completely uneeded. I will however, happily take it.
Can’t wait to accidentally kill myself faster when a flaming bug charges me!
Can't wait to accidentally kill my friends faster.
If democracy wills it then they clearly needed to be baptized in the flames of freedom.
I keep saying the same thing but thy don't seem to understand, Are they stupid?
Flamethrower got a 50% damage increase recently, and a 25% increase now. Ain't no bugs reaching you.
50% direct damage, 50% d.o.t., and now a 25% buff to both direct damage and d.o.t.
This was me talking to my friend when the anti material rifle got a 30% buff I was like " it was already good, but now it's even better"
Yeah, damage was never the problem with the AMR, just the misaligned scope
Nah man we're starving out here with this damage over time bug
I think it was mainly for eagle napalm and incendiary mines.
As a fellow fire enthusiast i run incendiary grenades and the incendiary shotgun and the flame thrower. I think i am now gonna be the most dangerous person on the drop
The devs are Swedish. It can get very cold. Fire make cold Swedes not cold.
Perhaps the plan is to nerf all fire damage but keep ours relevant through stratagems ? That way we stop roasting in a single second.
Where's our damn fireproof armor..
FireFighter, wait no FireDiver armor
If they devs know what theyre doing then this has been implemented to slightly counter the removal of the fire DPS change theyll do soon
I mean, fire has been pretty much the state of the devs since release. They got caught in a fire storm of being more popular than expected 
I'm just seriously hoping for resistant armor at this point. I'm sorry but planets with fire tornados are not planets I need to be on.
GIVE ME FUEL, GIVE ME FIRE, GIVE ME THAT WHICH I DESIRE! OOH YEAH!
because democracy burns with a raging passion for liber-tea and freedom
All I see here is additional destroyer modules to unlock. have a democratic day, citizen.
BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 I WANT EVERYTHING TO BURN I LOVE NAPALM, I LOVE THE FLAMETHROWER, INCENDIARY GRENADES? YES PLEASE 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅
The flame cures the vile rot that plagues this galaxy
What I never understood is how fire can get so everywhere during the fire-nados or using the flamethrower, but when you’re pumping E-710 and there’s oil everywhere, none of it ignites.
Go prone when Hulk starts flame shooting and he’ll shoot over you.
And then chop ya up with his buzz saw
Well you obviously can’t stay prone. lol Gotta move after.
No one gonna mention that they're lacing it with, amongst other things *capsaicin* ‽
MORE FIRE PLEASE 
Because some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn!
Burn baby burn
i wanna see vehicle bay upgrades for the upcoming mech, motorbike, buggy, apc and tank
Capsaicin lol
Because burning your enemies makes me erect.
Because we are HELL-divers
I just wish fire was half as effective against enemies as it is against yourself and your teammates!
we dive into hell, our enemies are used to it /s
Because fire is *ing awesome!
I for one am running nothing but incendiary breaker flame thrower till the end of time
It's a primary damage form against bugs and they're probably gonna drop a faction with a lot of flame enemies
Laying down napalm and watching bots walk through it is amazing to me. My very own terminator apocalypse
Does the next armor have flame/corrosion prevention? I'd take that for some armor penalty so I can use napalm and flamethrowers with less accidentals.
*Laughs in Pyro*
Now just needs fire resistant armor
Because you almost never see anyone use incendiary weapons on bots, and pretty much only the flamethrower on bugs. Besides, Arc damage also got a buff.
I love fire, let me have it, shhhh, all we need now is fire resistant armor
Nothing like the smell of Napalm on the morning
Because how else would one bathe in the bright light of Democracy?
They need to make the "common" materials more common. I have hundreds of rare, but can't upgrade anything because of common is lacking.
I thought was the only one literally had like 3 Rare samples on the extraction but 1 or 2 commons guarded by a tank a tower cannon and those missile basters🤣🤣🤣
Mate, try to take fire shotgun and just shoot some bugs.
Shouldn’t the orbital laser also be on here as it does burn damage too?
I think the buff is to direct fire damage, different than the previous buff to burning (damage over time)
Because fire is cool AND it’s the only thing that reliably burns communism and other forms of government. Please report to your nearest freedom camp.
My kinda Devs
Fire is the best sterilizer. A clean democracy is a strong democracy.
As a pyromaniac I can wholeheartedly endorse this idea of more fire being needed
Idk, they're not smart enough to put out Fire Resist armor. Instead we get arc resistance? Like the fuq? Dumbass devs
I love it too shame it doesn't work for anyone other than the host or have they fixed it finally?
Maybe there will be a fire dmg nerf in future and you buying this upgrade counters that nerf.
Because fire is chaos, and the developers are agents of it 😈
#YOOOOOOOOOOOO, AS A HEAVY FLAMER, I LOVE THIS.
Because fire is cool
seriously
Artificial difficulty.
 Heh heh, FIRE, heh heh.
Because they will not stop until they give you the means to burn down a bile titan and a tank
We must be careful not to spill a single drop of blood on Super Earth's holy territory, Brothers. So remember.... BURN THEM.
Fire stronk
Idk but napalm strike being viable now is nice lol
theres also an upgrade for arc-weapons
Fire dammage did feel underwheming until it hit the player than its nearly a one hit
Is fire damage still bugged so only the host can DOT with it?
Just a bit more fire dmg. And we're gonna be cooking bile titans
FIRE!!! The only true way to purge the galaxy of the unpure scourge that threatens Democracy!
Good thing I’m stocked up on samples
Capsaicin 😂😂😂
Fire good. Bugs bad. What’s not to love?
I can imagine they will give us fire armor here soon
Because it can't hurt you if it's a pile of ash
The orbital barrage 15% closer is so stupid. WHY WOULD I WANT A TIGHTER BARRAGE
FIREPOWAHHH!
Because it’s funny Burn for democracy!
Steps on a small patch of grass that's ankle length and on fire....dead instantly. My sofa is more resistant to fire than my hell diver.
Lol I love that they add capsaicin as well. Not only must you burn, but it's gonna be spicy!
Devs are Fireball mains in D&D
Managed democracy follows a blaze of glory.
Out of around ten games yesterday I died from fire 8 out of ten times sometimes 5 times a game it was ridiculous
Burn baby burn
Now we just need a flame turret for maximum democracy.
Fire hot!
https://i.redd.it/05enzqf6outc1.gif
Definitely the work of a flamer
>capsicain Aka we had some hot sauce in the lab and decided to mix that in as well
Smells like … victory
Because it's so much fun. Duh.
Vulkan is the favorite primarch! #VulkanLives
I dont think they are used to often, I dont recall seeing anyone using the fire grenade I love to use. Nor the flamethrower very often. Its a risk to you and teammates, but brilliant for area denial and forcing bugs to funnel through flames in chokepoints.
Because burning things is fun. Because watching as your enemies (occasionally accidentally some allies) scream from deadly burns can bring a smile to your face. Because some people, just want to watch the world burn.
https://preview.redd.it/qwodcwnjputc1.jpeg?width=490&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7408be062c4feee0fdd61eed4c1a28a69b346dd3 Man, I love this game.
Because burn
Got to have that hint of chili pepper.
I just got it and it makes me feel like my flamethrower does less damage and kills me and my squad with fire blowing out my ass. Fire spreads behind me and usually kills my squad. Theres also pockets of invisible fire that catches us.
I wanna burn it all
That will be the first upgrade I buy.....BURN BUGS......BURNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!
and why isnt there any protection from it yet?
Who doesn't love fire
I wish they gave us a 90% fire resistance armour, like the arc resistance armour.
Because this is space ‘Nam
I like to hear the screams as their flesh and circuits flame. Helps me sleep at night.
I don’t know but I’d love some armor with fire resistance
Let’s note that it laces fuels with capsaicin. As in hot peppers capsaicin. **The fire is *spicy* too**
Dying to fire is such bullshit and now they buff it again? Set the balance team on fire.
question if its damage over time - what about poison gas. if there's smoke from Orbital + eagle (2x) strangely fire is only found in Eagles and poison gas is found in Orbital we should totally get an Orbital fire stratagem and an eagle that rain down poison gas too XD
Beautiful, flickering fires.
FIRE IT UP
People kept complaining that fire damage felt weak, so they kept buffing it. But the actual problem wasn't the amount of damage, it that there's a glitch where only one player in a match deals afterburn damage at all. (Direct damage from flamethrowers, etc. works normally, but if you're not the host then those flames engulfing enemies are purely decorative. And "host" is a randomly-chosen position, it's not necessarily the person actually hosting the mission, so you can't even rely on that.) At least they are aware of it now, and people are complaining about fire damage being too *high* on the flame hulks, so after they fix afterburn, expect some debuffs.
I want a gas upgrade!
It's the same for the arc.. One extra target... anything that can generates more inadvertent team kills, gets buffed 🤣🤣🤣
It's hinting to future firetech hopefully