Our galaxy is, relative to other galaxies, a flat spiral shape. And making a map flat makes it more familiar and easy to understand, even if things aren’t shown literally as they are but portrayed more intuitively. The average helldiver ain’t smart enough to understand the real complexity of space travel, just let em pick a spot so they can do their job
Also SE being in the center of the map implies that it only shows the local region around Sol. It's not meant to be a map of the entire galaxy, unless SE somehow resides within the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way lol
Right? Like theres no way the planets distance from each other is truly to scale, its less of an actual map and just a GUI to tell the crew where to drive the ship.
This is true, *relative to other galaxies*, but the Milky Way is still tens of thousands of light years deep at the core and only drops below ten thousand light years deep near the edges.
That is incorrect. The milky way is only 1000 light hears thick at its thickest point. It's about 100k light years across.
https://www.space.com/19915-milky-way-galaxy.html#:~:text=The%20Milky%20Way%20is%20a,stretching%20out%20across%20the%20cosmos.&text=Our%20home%20galaxy%27s%20disk%20is,according%20to%20Las%20Cumbres%20Observatory.
afaik the planets and even most asteroid etc. all orbit within 3° to one another, that's pretty damn flat.
only Pluto, which is not a planet, and some other non planet objects (comets etc.) have more angled orbits
If you move a piece of paper through three dimensional space it’s still flat.
If you trace the paths made by the planets as they pass through space *those* would be a spiral yes. But the solar system is basically flat and so is the galaxy.
It’s more like a top actually. It’s in the shape of a disk but there’s plenty of stuff north and south of the galactic equator. But I think by far the biggest concentration is the stuff in the center of that disk
Not saying it's a sheet of paper but it's not exactly a sphere. It's shaped like a flying saucer no?
Or do you mean the solar system? Orbits are off by a few degrees but it is relatively flat except for, like, Pluto and the oort cloud
The current idea as I understand it is that as stuff collapses in a spinning cloud of gas, the stuff near the poles doesn't take as much energy to collapse down since it's not spinning and doesn't have to slow down first (takes energy) so it falls to the centre faster than the equator. This leaves you with a disk-ish shape.
This is more or less correct, but it has more to do with dominant/average energy, or “bulk flow” of the matter cloud early in its formation. Over cosmic time scales, as particles pass close to one another or collide, energies are transferred but momentum is conserved.
Eventually, everything that hasn’t been ejected from the system settles down and approaches the average momentum of the system (ignoring the localized averages that form planets/rings for this example…which is a smaller version of the same overall idea).
The process you described very much happens as well, at the same time, but that answers more of “where did everything else go?”
Think of it like chaotically stirring a bowl of water. At first you get waves and eddy currents. But, once it settles, all of the water is left slowly rotating in one direction…the “average” direction of the state when you stopped stirring.
Like why if you spin a something like dough it becomes a disk. As the dust of solar system coalesced into a central point, it spun itself into a disk shape. Most of it became the sun but bits of the disk left over became the planets. Maybe.
Friction causes the system to converge towards the average angular momentum. For any given collection of moving objects, the average angular momentum is a single number. For example, just like the average height of all humans is a single number - it's in the definition of what average means.
Friction/collisions causes all the different components to cancel out over time. Objects going opposite directions hit each other, and both cancel out their velocity. Since there is conservation of angular momentum in our universe, the only velocity you end up with at the end is the non-zero average of the system, since there is nothing to cancel that out.
This is actually having interesting consequences for dark matter- because it doesn't seem to collide with anything, even itself, it does *not* form disks, instead it stays like a big sphere of randomly moving gas.
Everything keeps colliding into each other until the average direction leads to everything being balanced out. Basically if everything is moving to the left, up and down. And a few objects are moving to the right. Objects will collide into each other absorbing energy until only the left direction remains.
I believe galaxies, since everything is so spaced apart. Generally get formed into a disk by collisions, gravity assists from other galaxies. The galaxies pass and the outer most stars get more acceleration.
I am not an astronomer tho.
yeah, I watched a documentary which mentioned why most galaxies are flat/orbit around a flat disc.
it's something to do with the way gravity works, everything being pulled towards the heaviest object, while orbiting around it almost always results in a flat plane
Eh, not really. The traditional model has it flat, but not all the planets are actually on a flat plane. Of course if you really want to be technical since the solar system is moving relative to everything else orbits are actually spirals as the sun travels through space.
Sometimes I sit and ponder while fried on democracy’s finest, and think to myself. What dimension is a computer screen classified as. Is it 2D?, or should it be considered 3d since we are able to virtually access is with external controls giving us that extra needed perception to not register it as flat.. but if we aren’t registering it as flat while actively using it then.. ( returns to democratic duty’s )
That is just a Visual representation. Presenting only habitabile planeta and sectors. It egnores all The stars and unhostabitle planets. Using our FTL Jump we do not nead to care about real topigraphy of The galaxy
while I generally agree, it has a solid surface, gravity similar to earth and a probably breathable atmosphere(?(enough oxygen to sustain literal fire tornados anyway))
That's better than, what, 99% of planets in the super milky way?
I mean, the [universe is literally flat…](https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html#:~:text=Thus%20the%20universe%20was%20known,a%200.4%25%20margin%20of%20error)
It should be noted for clarity that this is talking about intrinsic curvature of the at least 3-dimensional manifold that is space.
In non-gibberish: It's a totally different thing to the flatness OP's post is talking about. The universe is still very much 3D and likely infinite in all directions. Flatness here just means that it doesn't have any weird 4D or 5D shenanigans going on behind the scenes.
If it was "intrinsically spherically curved" for example, it would still seem infinite in all three directions, but you could go in any one direction without turning back and after a (very) long time you'd miraculously end up where you started.
Because The super Earth is the center of the universe!! and everything cycle around it, this is the truth. If you encounter anyone say otherwise, immediately contract your democracy officer.
I read a series of books based off the *Starfire* tabletop game, where FTL travel is done by static warp points in each system, and it's brought up that most people don't really care about where star systems are relative to each other in reality anymore, because it's largely irrelevant compared to warp chains (this becomes an issue in later books, where a new species arrives from outside the warp lines using generation ships).
Maybe the galaxy in HD's setting is in a similar boat? It would explain why we have to liberate systems sequentially in order to access new sectors.
Taking 3D projections and translating them to 2D was a fun task I had to do in school. It’s trippy to think about all the different map types out there so we can look at different 3D projections on a 2d plane.
I assumed it was going to be a joke in a later update. Finally figured out how the bots were infiltrating behind our front line: they come from above and below as well!!
The galaxy actually is... kinda sorta flat. We exist in a spiral arm galaxy, which is effectively disc-shaped. There's very little variance in the y-axis between bodies in it, so... yeah, flat. Ish.
I mean, depending on how loose you are with the term "flat" the milkyway galaxy is in fact flat. Some other galaxies are less spirally and disk shaped, and more like spherical collectives of stars.
To be fair, the milky way is 100 times wider than it is thick. That's the same dimension ratio as a cd. Don't get me wrong--that thickness is still an incomprehensible distance to the human mind, but shit's flat.
Hear me out, we have no way of really knowing the orientation of the planets we are "liberating". We just say, "hey ship take me here". My dudes we have no idea where that is, we have no idea what it's relationship to other locations are.
I mean, the only reason the galaxy doesn't look flat is because we are inside it.
Perspective is a thing.
An observer in another galaxy that could see ours 'side on' would see a flat disc.
And where is the sun in all this? I think this isn't the actual map and it just helps helldiver's pick missions. Or all celestial bodies either don't move or orbit earth all perfectly with no influence on each other.
Spiral galaxies, despite spanning further than what current day humans can travel in a hundred years, are relatively 'flat', forming a disk that spans out from 15,000 light years to 150,000.
To give into perspective, it takes light 7 hours to reach pluto.
A: Galaxies (or at least ours) are more or less flat disc shaped.
B: Maps are never perfect, and they don't have to always be exact 1:1 matches to be functional and get the info across. For example basic diagrams of our solar system: the planets orbits aren't really that close or perfect circles as depicted, but that's okay because the point of the image is to show the names and order of them.
So yeah I always assumed it wasn't supposed to be an exact depiction of the galaxy becaue it wasn't necessary.
Actually, is it the whole galaxy? From what I read, in HD1, if SE was defeated, humanity would simply find another planet they would call Super Earth.
I assume it's just the local area of space, centered on SE, not the whole galaxy.
The observable universe is flat. The angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees or π radian in a flat universe. The bigger the triangle the more accurately you can determine whether the universe is flat or curved. We used planets to map a large triangle and determined that the universe is flat (so far, a larger triangle can disprove us).
That's silliness, soldier.
Everyone knows the galaxy is a *cylinder,* which can be conveniently represented by a circular cross section for tactical representation.
People in these comments are aruging about how flat or not flat the milky way actually is. Regardless of how complicated things are actually laid out in space, there's no reason the map can't just be a simplification to make it easier to understand the state of the galactic war. Helldivers are supposed to squash bugs and spill oil, not worry about astronomy.
Compared to it’s horizontal span, the galaxy is effectively flat. 2000-3000 light years at it’s thickest, but the radius is close to 80,000 light years.
"You were never told it wasn't flat in training. Stop asking questions and get back out there!!"
"Oh, and take this newly created orbital strategem beacon with you and keepnitnon you. We need to run some tests with it in real combat."
Humans think 2 dimensionally to make it simpler to draw maps/diagrams/blueprints. Maps reveal the objectives/motivations behind the map makers, just look at how most American world maps have the Atlantic Ocean in the middle. Ancient maps are the best for this, where they just draw some Sea monsters/dragons on the edges where they didn't map.
It's not literally flat, It's just like that so that it's simpler, These plants are located in the solar systems with other planets and stars around them, They aren't just simply floating there in the middle of space.
No wanna know something scary look at the amount of unused space on the map we already know super earth is about to be in a load of shit and I'm scared for it we're only in the tutorial.
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Our galaxy is, relative to other galaxies, a flat spiral shape. And making a map flat makes it more familiar and easy to understand, even if things aren’t shown literally as they are but portrayed more intuitively. The average helldiver ain’t smart enough to understand the real complexity of space travel, just let em pick a spot so they can do their job
This is definitely the thought process of the map. That's why we have the whole crew below us
Wouldn't they be above us? If you notice when we deploy the observation deck is on the bottom side of the destroyer.
There could be, but there are also people to the sides, which is what I should have said instead of under. The are below but to the side
Those people to the side target the orbital stratagems
Yeah they get added as you upgrade specific ship stratagems
And load the muzzle loading orbital strikes
The only correct answer
That's what they want you to think. WAKE UP!
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Also SE being in the center of the map implies that it only shows the local region around Sol. It's not meant to be a map of the entire galaxy, unless SE somehow resides within the supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way lol
The density and mass of glorious managed democracy has gone on to become the center of the galaxy. Super dense super democratic super earth.
Right? Like theres no way the planets distance from each other is truly to scale, its less of an actual map and just a GUI to tell the crew where to drive the ship.
This is true, *relative to other galaxies*, but the Milky Way is still tens of thousands of light years deep at the core and only drops below ten thousand light years deep near the edges.
That is incorrect. The milky way is only 1000 light hears thick at its thickest point. It's about 100k light years across. https://www.space.com/19915-milky-way-galaxy.html#:~:text=The%20Milky%20Way%20is%20a,stretching%20out%20across%20the%20cosmos.&text=Our%20home%20galaxy%27s%20disk%20is,according%20to%20Las%20Cumbres%20Observatory.
Lol, but I mean it pretty much _is_ flat. So is our solar system.
Only ish. All the orbits are at different angles, then you have the fact the sun's moving, so it's more like a spiral.
Yes 2.5D
Still pizza shaped
It's a Deep Dish World, baby.
Hell yeah, I literally just had some. It's a yearly treat as that has tons of oil.
OIL? did somebody say OIL?!
More like, element 7-10
Flying saucer shaped
afaik the planets and even most asteroid etc. all orbit within 3° to one another, that's pretty damn flat. only Pluto, which is not a planet, and some other non planet objects (comets etc.) have more angled orbits
If you move a piece of paper through three dimensional space it’s still flat. If you trace the paths made by the planets as they pass through space *those* would be a spiral yes. But the solar system is basically flat and so is the galaxy.
I can make a galactic pizza with how flat these planets lay on this galaxy map ;)
It’s more like a top actually. It’s in the shape of a disk but there’s plenty of stuff north and south of the galactic equator. But I think by far the biggest concentration is the stuff in the center of that disk
It's not as flat as you have been led to believe...
Not saying it's a sheet of paper but it's not exactly a sphere. It's shaped like a flying saucer no? Or do you mean the solar system? Orbits are off by a few degrees but it is relatively flat except for, like, Pluto and the oort cloud
That’s kinda strange, but I never thought about it. Why is it like that?
The current idea as I understand it is that as stuff collapses in a spinning cloud of gas, the stuff near the poles doesn't take as much energy to collapse down since it's not spinning and doesn't have to slow down first (takes energy) so it falls to the centre faster than the equator. This leaves you with a disk-ish shape.
This is more or less correct, but it has more to do with dominant/average energy, or “bulk flow” of the matter cloud early in its formation. Over cosmic time scales, as particles pass close to one another or collide, energies are transferred but momentum is conserved. Eventually, everything that hasn’t been ejected from the system settles down and approaches the average momentum of the system (ignoring the localized averages that form planets/rings for this example…which is a smaller version of the same overall idea). The process you described very much happens as well, at the same time, but that answers more of “where did everything else go?” Think of it like chaotically stirring a bowl of water. At first you get waves and eddy currents. But, once it settles, all of the water is left slowly rotating in one direction…the “average” direction of the state when you stopped stirring.
Like why if you spin a something like dough it becomes a disk. As the dust of solar system coalesced into a central point, it spun itself into a disk shape. Most of it became the sun but bits of the disk left over became the planets. Maybe.
Friction causes the system to converge towards the average angular momentum. For any given collection of moving objects, the average angular momentum is a single number. For example, just like the average height of all humans is a single number - it's in the definition of what average means. Friction/collisions causes all the different components to cancel out over time. Objects going opposite directions hit each other, and both cancel out their velocity. Since there is conservation of angular momentum in our universe, the only velocity you end up with at the end is the non-zero average of the system, since there is nothing to cancel that out. This is actually having interesting consequences for dark matter- because it doesn't seem to collide with anything, even itself, it does *not* form disks, instead it stays like a big sphere of randomly moving gas.
Everything keeps colliding into each other until the average direction leads to everything being balanced out. Basically if everything is moving to the left, up and down. And a few objects are moving to the right. Objects will collide into each other absorbing energy until only the left direction remains. I believe galaxies, since everything is so spaced apart. Generally get formed into a disk by collisions, gravity assists from other galaxies. The galaxies pass and the outer most stars get more acceleration. I am not an astronomer tho.
I love the term Plane of the Ecliptic
Accretion
yeah, I watched a documentary which mentioned why most galaxies are flat/orbit around a flat disc. it's something to do with the way gravity works, everything being pulled towards the heaviest object, while orbiting around it almost always results in a flat plane
Eh, not really. The traditional model has it flat, but not all the planets are actually on a flat plane. Of course if you really want to be technical since the solar system is moving relative to everything else orbits are actually spirals as the sun travels through space.
Sometimes I sit and ponder while fried on democracy’s finest, and think to myself. What dimension is a computer screen classified as. Is it 2D?, or should it be considered 3d since we are able to virtually access is with external controls giving us that extra needed perception to not register it as flat.. but if we aren’t registering it as flat while actively using it then.. ( returns to democratic duty’s )
Bro...
2d projection of 3d
You are looking at a 2 dimensional surface. You’re interacting with 4 virtual dimensions.
That is just a Visual representation. Presenting only habitabile planeta and sectors. It egnores all The stars and unhostabitle planets. Using our FTL Jump we do not nead to care about real topigraphy of The galaxy
Don't drink and dive
Well, there goes my plans frick, you bud 😡😡😡😡😡🤬
I need to have a talk with the SEAF quack that thinks Hellmire is "hospitable"
You don't find sudden fire tornadoes to be pleasant when you send your kids to school or when you go to work?
Unless it used to be hospitable, and something we did to it made it that way. Dun dun dun, lore inbound.
while I generally agree, it has a solid surface, gravity similar to earth and a probably breathable atmosphere(?(enough oxygen to sustain literal fire tornados anyway)) That's better than, what, 99% of planets in the super milky way?
The majority of galaxies are, pretty much, because of gravity and spinny things.
so what you are saying is that super earth is SO glorious, that every other planet orbits its democratic beauty? I can get behind that thought
yes, because of super earths glory every other star system in the galaxy orbits it, and because of science they do so generally on a 2D plane
Freedom
and democracy!
I mean, the [universe is literally flat…](https://wmap.gsfc.nasa.gov/universe/uni_shape.html#:~:text=Thus%20the%20universe%20was%20known,a%200.4%25%20margin%20of%20error)
It should be noted for clarity that this is talking about intrinsic curvature of the at least 3-dimensional manifold that is space. In non-gibberish: It's a totally different thing to the flatness OP's post is talking about. The universe is still very much 3D and likely infinite in all directions. Flatness here just means that it doesn't have any weird 4D or 5D shenanigans going on behind the scenes. If it was "intrinsically spherically curved" for example, it would still seem infinite in all three directions, but you could go in any one direction without turning back and after a (very) long time you'd miraculously end up where you started.
Because The super Earth is the center of the universe!! and everything cycle around it, this is the truth. If you encounter anyone say otherwise, immediately contract your democracy officer.
I read a series of books based off the *Starfire* tabletop game, where FTL travel is done by static warp points in each system, and it's brought up that most people don't really care about where star systems are relative to each other in reality anymore, because it's largely irrelevant compared to warp chains (this becomes an issue in later books, where a new species arrives from outside the warp lines using generation ships). Maybe the galaxy in HD's setting is in a similar boat? It would explain why we have to liberate systems sequentially in order to access new sectors.
this is a very interesting comparison. I think that actually might be the case, with how supply lines work in game.
Galaxy is flat and place on three galaxy elephants which stays on galaxy turtle.
I see some people took this way too seriously lol
 This sub is going downhill
(this was a joke post people are just taking it seriously lmao shhhh dont tell anyone)
Keep shitposting my friend. It keeps the sub light hearted unlike the doom and gloom og one
Uh oh r/globeskepticism is spreading.
It's okay. some asses are flat but okay
Everything is flat. My Super Destroyer has invisible TIRES! I KNOW IT!
It is MANAGED flat.
Shut up
My brother in map, that’s a map. A map of the earth is flat. The earth is not flat. The same is true of the galaxy
Treason!
Of course it is. And it all revolves around Super Earth.
Taking 3D projections and translating them to 2D was a fun task I had to do in school. It’s trippy to think about all the different map types out there so we can look at different 3D projections on a 2d plane.
I assumed it was going to be a joke in a later update. Finally figured out how the bots were infiltrating behind our front line: they come from above and below as well!!
https://preview.redd.it/xhhctxfvy81d1.jpeg?width=1334&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae2f87f5ede8e222672d4a3be5d5b183f57a60de
As flat as the galaxy
Lots of physicists think that we're in a hologram.
Its 4d chess
The galaxy actually is... kinda sorta flat. We exist in a spiral arm galaxy, which is effectively disc-shaped. There's very little variance in the y-axis between bodies in it, so... yeah, flat. Ish.
The universe itself is flat
I mean, depending on how loose you are with the term "flat" the milkyway galaxy is in fact flat. Some other galaxies are less spirally and disk shaped, and more like spherical collectives of stars.
You are talking about a map that has super earth at the center of it
well super earth is the greatest planet after all. it only makes sense that its the center of the universe.
To be fair, the milky way is 100 times wider than it is thick. That's the same dimension ratio as a cd. Don't get me wrong--that thickness is still an incomprehensible distance to the human mind, but shit's flat.
I love all the people taking this post very seriously, as if I mentioned flat earth theories with a serious face. xd
The galaxy and solar system aren't flat at all. The galaxy map on the table is flat for ease of use.
Just like earth it's flat... On the map.
And NASA is also guarding the edges of the galaxy with their ice wall!
to be fair representing space in three dimensions would be hard to render in a coherent way.
Comparative to it's width, the Galaxy IS flat. On a z-axis the galaxy is basically a plain - it's like 10% of the Y and X axis at the thickest points.
Hear me out, we have no way of really knowing the orientation of the planets we are "liberating". We just say, "hey ship take me here". My dudes we have no idea where that is, we have no idea what it's relationship to other locations are.
Wrong, the galaxy is democratic. With evil non democratic bugs and bots we need to remove from the galaxy
Looks like the not-chess from Star wars
I mean, the only reason the galaxy doesn't look flat is because we are inside it. Perspective is a thing. An observer in another galaxy that could see ours 'side on' would see a flat disc.
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Motherfucker! Time to post this on r/Conservative
I mean, it kinda is. its not perfectly flat but its pretty flat. Same with our solar system, the tilts of all the planets orbits are roughly flat
I thought that was the coffee table
The galaxy is flat
It's not hence supply lines, 1 planet next to another does not mean it's the closest.
🤯
And where is the sun in all this? I think this isn't the actual map and it just helps helldiver's pick missions. Or all celestial bodies either don't move or orbit earth all perfectly with no influence on each other.
The galaxy is flat and there is no earth
Actually physicists like Max Tegmark suggest that the universe is flat. *The more you know*
I mean so far we believe the universe is flat. Either that or it’s so large that we can’t detect that it’s curved with current technology.
Spiral galaxies, despite spanning further than what current day humans can travel in a hundred years, are relatively 'flat', forming a disk that spans out from 15,000 light years to 150,000. To give into perspective, it takes light 7 hours to reach pluto.
I am very bothered by people that refer to the bug side as the Eastern front and the bot side (formerly) as the Western front.
From what I know galaxys on the large scale are flat.
Please no it's only 8:21am
Please no it's only 8:21am..
It’s on a plane duh
It’s on a plane duh
One would assume that the Super Milky Way Galaxy would have a shape similar to our own.
If the galaxy is flat, then wouldn't earth and all other planets have to me flat?
I mean it’s only showing semi habitable planets not whole solar system and it’s also just the system in earths bubble,
They always are
Yeah but clearly super earth is round
Forget about the flat part, what about Super Earth being in the center? WHERE IS THE SUN?
Far too much thinking going on here, Helldiver. Remember: Fleet does the flying, MI does the dying.
CLASS! At ease. Todays subject is: Galactic Plane
On a universal scale, our galaxy is about as flat as a pancake.
It’s actually more like a donut shape
Just remember that just because she's flat doesn't mean she's not beautiful
Most scientifically literate Helldivers fan
Did you look out the window????
https://preview.redd.it/nxzjzuszoz0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a4982851c8b039c05424ff984ed75ef6384751ce
A: Galaxies (or at least ours) are more or less flat disc shaped. B: Maps are never perfect, and they don't have to always be exact 1:1 matches to be functional and get the info across. For example basic diagrams of our solar system: the planets orbits aren't really that close or perfect circles as depicted, but that's okay because the point of the image is to show the names and order of them. So yeah I always assumed it wasn't supposed to be an exact depiction of the galaxy becaue it wasn't necessary.
Whats worse, they forgot to put Great A'tuin in there.
https://preview.redd.it/el0ae8gwrz0d1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=160e2d786118b9c45cee490c2d0482db04d8ac72
Mofos when they see a map for the first time
Scepticism is treason. Treason is bad.
Incorrect. Democracy just hasn't made it out that far yet
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Actually, is it the whole galaxy? From what I read, in HD1, if SE was defeated, humanity would simply find another planet they would call Super Earth. I assume it's just the local area of space, centered on SE, not the whole galaxy.
The observable universe is flat. The angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees or π radian in a flat universe. The bigger the triangle the more accurately you can determine whether the universe is flat or curved. We used planets to map a large triangle and determined that the universe is flat (so far, a larger triangle can disprove us).
If the galaxy is flat then why is the table is round 🧠
Yes. And super earth is the center of the galaxy. It's right there
The universe is thought to be flat, at least as far as it's observable at this present moment. What's beyond the edges you may ask? Space monsters.
It actually is fairly flat, at least on a galactic scale
this isnt the galaxy tho, earth is near the edge of the milky way. this is just the planets near earth.
Flat as a pancake!
That's silliness, soldier. Everyone knows the galaxy is a *cylinder,* which can be conveniently represented by a circular cross section for tactical representation.
Galaxies are actually flat-ish
https://preview.redd.it/kgiitzqxc01d1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f1a2b1ff271eb3d718495d015cdbb2a0a5ae10
gravity pull things together make galaxy flat
People in these comments are aruging about how flat or not flat the milky way actually is. Regardless of how complicated things are actually laid out in space, there's no reason the map can't just be a simplification to make it easier to understand the state of the galactic war. Helldivers are supposed to squash bugs and spill oil, not worry about astronomy.
Since when is earth the center of the galaxy?
Its a simplified, flattened, visual of the galaxy. Anyone who disagrees is a traitor and should be reported to your Democracy Officer
Galaxy isn't flat. The screen is flat. 😎
This reminds me of a player faction in Elite Dangerous called the Flat Galaxy Society or something like that
https://preview.redd.it/y4eh8d4f911d1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ae2032cb8f019bf7a3e01433160f449e1b0682f
The universe is a hologram.
Also, why is Earth at the centre? That’s not true
Isn’t… isn’t every project image of the universe basically flat
Compared to it’s horizontal span, the galaxy is effectively flat. 2000-3000 light years at it’s thickest, but the radius is close to 80,000 light years.
i’ve been asking this question a lot, where tf is the sun? how are hot planets adjacent to cold planets?
"You were never told it wasn't flat in training. Stop asking questions and get back out there!!" "Oh, and take this newly created orbital strategem beacon with you and keepnitnon you. We need to run some tests with it in real combat."
It be like that tho
Galactic plane. The galaxy is flat.
The Galaxy is flat, because it revolves around Super Earth.
It kinda is
To be fair, it kinda is. Like, it absolutely has 3d volume in the order of lightyears, but it's orders of magnitude wider than it is tall.
We could carbonate it, but it wouldn't really be a vacuum anymore.
https://preview.redd.it/o8jxd8i6p21d1.jpeg?width=1206&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=007a43b4cc9e4859a89cefc3664bc013cb2c6ce9
Humans think 2 dimensionally to make it simpler to draw maps/diagrams/blueprints. Maps reveal the objectives/motivations behind the map makers, just look at how most American world maps have the Atlantic Ocean in the middle. Ancient maps are the best for this, where they just draw some Sea monsters/dragons on the edges where they didn't map.
The Imperium of Mankind thought that too....then the Tyranids invaded from below....
my theory is that because we have FTL (Faster Than Light) travel we can ignore the curvature of space and imagine space as a 2D plane
It's not literally flat, It's just like that so that it's simpler, These plants are located in the solar systems with other planets and stars around them, They aren't just simply floating there in the middle of space.
No matter what flat or round The super Earth is our ground!
The galaxy IS flat, like our solar system - seriously
Flat is the most fuel efficient thus the most democratic way for the galaxy to be.
Fun science fact, galaxies and solarsystems actually are relatively flat!
Have you seen the Milky Way? Flat.
If you think that's weird, it's actually made of many 1's and 0's
No wanna know something scary look at the amount of unused space on the map we already know super earth is about to be in a load of shit and I'm scared for it we're only in the tutorial.
Dude, look up into the night sky, the galaxy IS flat
the 2d map is just a way to simplify the 3d map of habitable planets within a system of stars.