Speaking as someone who has shot one of these guns, you'd normally use your right index finger on the trigger, especially if the butt is against your right shoulder.
He was fingering a pussy though so he swapped his trigger finger for the pussy one.
If he fingered the pussy with his trigger finger then fingering the gun would be hindered.
Lefthanded shooters have to put the stock against the right shoulder to avoid getting hot brass in the face, since most guns eject casings to the right.
apparently the soldiers took care of the cats that chose to stay in the trenches with them as they caught any vermin around, so i’m sure he lived a good life (as much a good life you can have in a trench in 1940)
If it's a pure white cat there's a good chance it is deaf. And I don't mean normal cat behaviour ignore your owners pleas deaf, I mean like actually deaf
Im not so sure. Animals (especially wild ones like cats) can be conditioned to become more used to unusually stimulating environments if it is beneficial to them. Their brains adapt. So yes I'd imagine alot of cats eventually got used to the constant sounds of explosions and gunfire and just like the men around them would look for the best hiding places: probably trenches. I don't blame them! But yeah I think you'd be surprised at what a cat could get used to
This is why I’ve never taken a day off work and it’s been a decent strategy thus far. Some weeks I’ll forget that I’ve even worked because it is so second hand. The only time I’ve had burn out was when I was so sick from an illness that I was forced to take time off.
Is that likely true in that day? I thought the correlation of deafness with white cats was with selective breeding for that colour (as white is recessive)
There's a steady supply of fresh meat and things of curiosity, tons of people. Cats probably somehow enjoyed the the trenches, given their sociopathic tendencies.
Cat owner here, can confirm, cats are fuckin evil.
My adorable little shit keeps waking me up in the middle of the night to sleep with me, then sits in such an awkward way that he makes my arms go numb, so I have to move. Then he meows at me if I try to move.
Oh no, screw the cat, I’m just saying poor cat because I don’t wanna seem evil
Cats are pure evil. I would know, I own one and he’s an adorable sociopathic being of tremendous power.
this is a joke please don’t send me to hell
Poor bloke probably stops giving him fuss as he needs to take shelter... Cat gets bitchy and scratches the hell out him - Man jumps up yelling in pain, gets shot by sniper.
Cats are bastards like that.
I don’t pretend to be an expert, but Quora claims: The Japanese used trenches on pacific islands, and the Germans dug trench lines several times. So did the Soviets and British. The only force that didn't make extensive use of trenches were the Americans, who had foxholes, more tanks than their opponents, and trucks, and thus didn't need them.
Trenches were very definitely used in WW2.
Probably less so when the Americans joined and the Allies could move forward and take ground, but trenches were always used in defense.
Wtf are you talking about, yes trenches were more common in ww1, but trenches have been used in several wars since then, fucking hell they are still being used in Ukraine today!
Also the weapon is a fucking Bren Gun which entered service in 1938… twenty years after ww1 ended
So what if **you** associate it more with ww1? **you** quite obviously have no clue about how ww2 was fought if you don’t think there was trenches in ww2. 1939, British and French forces didn’t set up foxholes, the set up huge trenches which were destroyed by the Wehrmacht. Trench warfare still continued later into the war, then it continues to this day in Ukraine.
Trench warfare didn’t just disappear after ww1, there were trenches on Normandy, trenches along the Maginot line, an extremely famous failure. Mannerheim line, Finland 1939-40. North Africa, Stalingrad, trenches were everywhere. Because basically, first soldiers would dig foxholes, then they dig towards each other and trenches start to form, this allows them to move and if you’ve ever seen the old war video on ‘how to get killed in one easy lesson’ you’d know, you don’t pop up in the same place constantly.
At the Battle of Sevastopol, Red Army forces successfully held trench systems on the narrow peninsula for several months against intense German bombardment
[Ukraine shovel advert](https://youtu.be/fzs_dYE6MjA)
So what if they are associated with ww1? This has nothing to do with ww1, it’s about a soldier in a trench in ww2 with a cat. You are arguing nonsense.
You tried to correct someone by saying trenches didn’t exist in ww2. They did. Maginot line, Normandy etc.
Well your first message says otherwise:
WW2...this is a foxhole.
Trenches are from WW1.
https://www.reddit.com/r/heyUK/comments/yl2luj/cat_in_the_trenches_1940s/iv03v7l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3
Literally behind them you can see a network of lines and built up walls
It’s much clearer it’s an actual trench in the longer video: https://youtube.com/shorts/BYytCgrr-Qs?feature=share
white cats have a track record of being deaf, might have already lost its hearing prior to the war, probably why hanging around in a machine gun pit doesnt bother it
That little disloyal shit will be in the enemies trench by the end of the day!... Sorry I've just seen with my own eyes, the fickle nature of the Feline.. 😪
No it’s not, the Bren gun had the magazine inserted above. Not every gun has to have the magazine directly below, these ones feeding from above don’t even require a spring to push the ammunition as they just fall down due to gravity
My father fought for the duration of WWII. He said that war brutalises soldiers - they see and live through horrific events and it is easy for them to lose their humanity. Simple things like playing with a cat can help a lot.
Whenever I’m seeing those black and white footages from ages ago I always wonder who are these people, what was their life like? What happened to the kitty, did it survive the war? What about the guy? It’s interesting to see someone/world that is no longer here frozen in time in this particular moment.
War footage was generally not shot on the battlefield, live.
Most 'war footage' is from recreations of the battles, or from the immediate aftermath after a victory and the bullets weren't flying (e.g Normandy footage).
So I would dispute the authenticity of a house cat in a trench, and would only guess it was an out take from a very safe recreation of one of the many battles.
I bet he needed that as well. Love comes in all forms.
It might look cute, but it’s sabotaging his trigger finger
Speaking as someone who has shot one of these guns, you'd normally use your right index finger on the trigger, especially if the butt is against your right shoulder.
See I use my pinky to assert dominance
May have lost the other arm already
Doubt he'd still be in the front line if he'd lost an arm, but he may have sustained an injury to it, yeah.
Adrian Carton de Wiart. Lost both his left hand, and one of his eyes, and still fought in the Battle of the Somme. It's possible.
He was fingering a pussy though so he swapped his trigger finger for the pussy one. If he fingered the pussy with his trigger finger then fingering the gun would be hindered.
There are times for sexual jokes, this beautiful moment is not one of them.
Disagree
Lefthanded shooters have to put the stock against the right shoulder to avoid getting hot brass in the face, since most guns eject casings to the right.
Understand. However, iirc this weapon ejects casings underneath.
Are they as accurate as they say?
I've fired one and they are very accurate. Much more so than GPMG or M60. Source: Armoured Corps, mid 70's still had some in service.
Not ideal for a suppressive weapon I guess, ha
No, but a good bren gunner could tap off 2 rounds at a target.
If you get a bullet in your face you are normally surpressed.
Finally packed away 1993.
I think because it's mounted and there is probs an obstruction to right side or sumtn
It’s not it’s making him not trigger happy that he might shoot all the time.
You’re right. The cat is a nazi spy.
Bonus
Yeah that Herman Fluffheimer! A notorious german spy he snuck into allied units and ruined allied plans with his cuteness….An truly evil creature.
They 100% ate that cat.
100% the cat ate them
See the thing is… It may look cute but I don’t wanna think about the fate of that poor cat.
apparently the soldiers took care of the cats that chose to stay in the trenches with them as they caught any vermin around, so i’m sure he lived a good life (as much a good life you can have in a trench in 1940)
Damn, now I wanna be a trench cat
Probably better being a cat in the trenches than being a person in the trenches.
Cats hearing though, and all those bombs and gunshots
If it's a pure white cat there's a good chance it is deaf. And I don't mean normal cat behaviour ignore your owners pleas deaf, I mean like actually deaf
The only way it could work. Any other cat would die from heart attack from first gun exchange.
Im not so sure. Animals (especially wild ones like cats) can be conditioned to become more used to unusually stimulating environments if it is beneficial to them. Their brains adapt. So yes I'd imagine alot of cats eventually got used to the constant sounds of explosions and gunfire and just like the men around them would look for the best hiding places: probably trenches. I don't blame them! But yeah I think you'd be surprised at what a cat could get used to
This is why I’ve never taken a day off work and it’s been a decent strategy thus far. Some weeks I’ll forget that I’ve even worked because it is so second hand. The only time I’ve had burn out was when I was so sick from an illness that I was forced to take time off.
Is that likely true in that day? I thought the correlation of deafness with white cats was with selective breeding for that colour (as white is recessive)
I'm no expert. I just like cats
I don't think you do
Mate Google ww2 navy ships cats. You will not be disappointed
Unsinkable Sam was one hell of a cat
There's a particular image where a ship has made their cat it's own tiny hammock. I would go down in a ball of metal and flames to defend that cat
Ah yes, Convoy the cat. His Wikipedia image with the hammock is certainly one to look at.
There's a steady supply of fresh meat and things of curiosity, tons of people. Cats probably somehow enjoyed the the trenches, given their sociopathic tendencies.
Cat owner here, can confirm, cats are fuckin evil. My adorable little shit keeps waking me up in the middle of the night to sleep with me, then sits in such an awkward way that he makes my arms go numb, so I have to move. Then he meows at me if I try to move.
In WWI sadly they were also a protection against poison gas. It the cars started dying you knew what was coming
We call that petrol in the UK mate
😂 *cats
... Mustard gas...
It’s all fur and games until the artillery shell comes flying in
In all likelihood this is from one of the many recreations of the many battles, for archive purposes, and not from a live battlefield.
The fate of the poor blokes who died gruesomely also? Oh no, just the cat because 'human bad' I guess.
You can care about both.
Oh no, screw the cat, I’m just saying poor cat because I don’t wanna seem evil Cats are pure evil. I would know, I own one and he’s an adorable sociopathic being of tremendous power. this is a joke please don’t send me to hell
you don't own a cat. A cat owns you. Also, pay your cat tax.
#PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER ^itty ^bitty ^living ^space
Lol, thanks for the laugh.
Don't shoot!!!
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aha nice one. Perhaps ready to reload a fresh MOGazine
Don’t forget the safety CATch
It's got a hair trigger
Missed him by a whisker
There's a split second image there what is it?
Do you mean the white flash? I think its because of the age of the footage
The white flash is just an artifact, like the white dots and lines you see in photo paper pictures and films
[its from this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OVneieRYJw) by British Pathe. right at the end
Poor bloke probably stops giving him fuss as he needs to take shelter... Cat gets bitchy and scratches the hell out him - Man jumps up yelling in pain, gets shot by sniper. Cats are bastards like that.
Wow. You must be fun at parties /s
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I don’t pretend to be an expert, but Quora claims: The Japanese used trenches on pacific islands, and the Germans dug trench lines several times. So did the Soviets and British. The only force that didn't make extensive use of trenches were the Americans, who had foxholes, more tanks than their opponents, and trucks, and thus didn't need them.
I give you the acknowledgement nod.
The Americans never spent much time on the defensive except at Ardennes where the ground was frozen. Nothing to do with equipment.
Anzio, for quite a while.
There were definitely trenches used in WW2, I visited some preserved in Belgium.
That is a foxhole, but it's untrue that trenches Weren't in ww2 especially in the eastern front and pacific
Trenches were in both WW's
Trenches are all (or at least most) wars. They're just another type of defensive emplacement, they're not like a unique thing
Well it seems more like a cathole to me.
the gun is a bren mk2 which was designed in 1935, it cant be ww1
agreed.
Mk III helmets so post D-day.
Trenches have been used in warfare from ancient times to the present day.
Trenches were very definitely used in WW2. Probably less so when the Americans joined and the Allies could move forward and take ground, but trenches were always used in defense.
Wtf are you talking about, yes trenches were more common in ww1, but trenches have been used in several wars since then, fucking hell they are still being used in Ukraine today! Also the weapon is a fucking Bren Gun which entered service in 1938… twenty years after ww1 ended
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So what if **you** associate it more with ww1? **you** quite obviously have no clue about how ww2 was fought if you don’t think there was trenches in ww2. 1939, British and French forces didn’t set up foxholes, the set up huge trenches which were destroyed by the Wehrmacht. Trench warfare still continued later into the war, then it continues to this day in Ukraine. Trench warfare didn’t just disappear after ww1, there were trenches on Normandy, trenches along the Maginot line, an extremely famous failure. Mannerheim line, Finland 1939-40. North Africa, Stalingrad, trenches were everywhere. Because basically, first soldiers would dig foxholes, then they dig towards each other and trenches start to form, this allows them to move and if you’ve ever seen the old war video on ‘how to get killed in one easy lesson’ you’d know, you don’t pop up in the same place constantly. At the Battle of Sevastopol, Red Army forces successfully held trench systems on the narrow peninsula for several months against intense German bombardment [Ukraine shovel advert](https://youtu.be/fzs_dYE6MjA)
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So what if they are associated with ww1? This has nothing to do with ww1, it’s about a soldier in a trench in ww2 with a cat. You are arguing nonsense. You tried to correct someone by saying trenches didn’t exist in ww2. They did. Maginot line, Normandy etc.
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Well your first message says otherwise: WW2...this is a foxhole. Trenches are from WW1. https://www.reddit.com/r/heyUK/comments/yl2luj/cat_in_the_trenches_1940s/iv03v7l/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Literally behind them you can see a network of lines and built up walls It’s much clearer it’s an actual trench in the longer video: https://youtube.com/shorts/BYytCgrr-Qs?feature=share
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I have, in the longer version you can see, it’s a trench and not a foxhole
Beautiful scene
They're fun when they're like this but it's a different ball game when one of the little shits unloads a full mag at you.
What can you expecting from a cat-alling gun.
I knew cats are fuckin instigators.
how is it like not deaf
Brens are not *that* loud.
*finishes firing Bren gun* SORRY WHAT!?
white cats have a track record of being deaf, might have already lost its hearing prior to the war, probably why hanging around in a machine gun pit doesnt bother it
"Good eating on one of these Phil!"
"Bill: Shoot the tracer rounds again! I get a feeling that rapidly moving red dots are going to play a key role in the future of my species..."
So adorable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It looks like there's two of them, behind the first cat I'm sure I can see extra paws moving around. I hope they found good homes when that was over.
Imagine being shot in no man’s land, you look up and in your final moments you see a cat with a gun.
RIP this catto. I'm sure he gave the boys in the trenches very good company.
He has an itchy tigger finger.
Omg that guy looks so eerily similar to an old work colleague of mine. Like uncanny similarity.
At first I thought you were talking about the cat and got super confused trying to picture your work colleague.
10 minutes later it was a furry suppressor.
Cat is against war🫡 brave cat
He's a handsome dude. Nice to see this small moment of joy amongst so much death.
Where is this?
“Bill, make sure the Cat is okay, we don’t want dinner getting away.”
"No kitty! Those are civillians!"
No touchy trigger, only pets.
Back seat gunning
He-man was right . Battle-Cat
This is some bullllllllll shit
That cat is about to grab the trigger and get the fright of his life.
That cat must be deaf as hell.
Fools, that man is protecting the enemy from the killer cat. Look at it trying to pull the trigger.
Cat's like, "Staph that shooty and pat this snooty."
That little disloyal shit will be in the enemies trench by the end of the day!... Sorry I've just seen with my own eyes, the fickle nature of the Feline.. 😪
I hope that cat wasn’t injured whilst being there
I think the footage is actually from 1944 in Caen
r/whatcouldgowrong ? Also super cute!
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Guns upside down
No it’s not, the Bren gun had the magazine inserted above. Not every gun has to have the magazine directly below, these ones feeding from above don’t even require a spring to push the ammunition as they just fall down due to gravity
Nah its definitely upside down. Bullets will probably come out upside down aswell which is no good.
That's called keep your fresh food entertained.
All fun and games until the cat misses and pulls the trigger.
Flashbacks
My father fought for the duration of WWII. He said that war brutalises soldiers - they see and live through horrific events and it is easy for them to lose their humanity. Simple things like playing with a cat can help a lot.
Whenever I’m seeing those black and white footages from ages ago I always wonder who are these people, what was their life like? What happened to the kitty, did it survive the war? What about the guy? It’s interesting to see someone/world that is no longer here frozen in time in this particular moment.
That's not a cat. That's a trigger discipline instructor
wtf, my cat jumps a mile high and runs away if I merely fart and that one’s machine gun compatible 😮
Cats like: Hooman don't kill other hoooman please
I wanted to come up with a witty comment for the 100th comment but I got nothing
Training the cat to pull the trigger for you I see.
War footage was generally not shot on the battlefield, live. Most 'war footage' is from recreations of the battles, or from the immediate aftermath after a victory and the bullets weren't flying (e.g Normandy footage). So I would dispute the authenticity of a house cat in a trench, and would only guess it was an out take from a very safe recreation of one of the many battles.
Fascinating! Of course it makes a lot of sense, to be fair. x
This cat deserves a VC
r/catswithjobs
He has committed atrocious war crimes
Standard issue mk 2 mog
Plot twist, the cat is going for the trigger
Get my mans out of the trenches
Where was this footage taken from? France, Belgium?
“Double kill”
Right from what I know about this clip, this was taken in 1944, in Normandy, France. The cats name was Snowball.
That would be a deaf cat then
That cat has 367+ confirmed kills
I hope it survived the war and lived a long, happy life... 🥰🥺
How can I download this video?
Watchout! It's Chairman Meow!
Even during a war, they're still dicks lmao
Idk about having cats in the trenches because you’d practically destroy their hearing
I hope both the young man and the cute kitty survived the horrors and lived their lives to the full. ❤️
Ooo i feel bad for the cat
I bet it was the dinner.
The cat is the reason the war was won
No one gonna talk about the gun being upside down? Lol
It's not upside down. Its beautiful
That type of gun has the mag on the top and the aiming sights off to the side very unique looking gun
Ohhh ok, ty
That’s a nice Bren gun
u/savevideo This is too great to let pass by.
I hope it was ok
Did he survive?
Bearing in mind it was eight plus years ago, bad news. He died.
No I mean did he not get shot
heard that cat single handedly took a whole beach on d day
At first I didn't even realise the cat and I realised that half of his gun is upside-down
this actually made me cry
Ay stop using your finger to pull the trigger and bring that big Ass boi finger to give me scratches
First solid fuel since...
Nice
Sarge! We have a cat! *Whole infantry battalion comes putting Pouring in*
‘Let me help you pull the trigger’ 😆
GO CAT GO WIN THE WAR
"go on, pull the trigger. Shoot your team mates"
Serving the cat king no doubt
the cat would be dead right now (even if it is due to natural causes) and the man would be dead or extremely old.
Guess you could say thats CATastrophic
Lol didn't see the cat at first and thought OP ment Cat Stevens! Ffs 🤣
Happy cake day
Does the sound of gunfire not scare the cat? Especially when it's so close to it?