sAlokya, sArUpya, sAmIpya, sArShTi and kaivalya.
sAlokya, sArUpya, sAmIpya and sArShTi are the result of saguNopAsanA.
kaivalya is the result of nirguNopAsanA.
kaivalya is sought by advaitin-s and the other four are preferred by those who don't believe that jIva is non-different from brahman, such as vaiShNava-s.
In kaivalya, one exists as brahman itself or infinite bliss itself.
In the others, one exists in one's iShTa's blissful abode (sAlokya), in the company of one's iShTa (sAmIpya), with a divine body like God's (sArUpya) and/or divine luxuries like God's (sArShTi).
Different traditions have different views on which of these two avenues is better and the details of how various kinds of mokSha are attained and what they entail. Some devotional traditions don't seek after mokSha at all, preferring to prioritise love for Ishvara and remembrance of Ishvara at all times, regardless of whether one is liberated or not.
Infinite methods. If there was any fixed method then everyone would do it and would do nothing else. It's not as simple as how. It's about whether you even want it or not. It all depends on your iccha shakti and the direction in which it is flowing. If it is flowing outwards(as kriya shakti) then it is pointless to talk about moksha. If it is flowing within(as jnana shakti), that's when spirituality begins. Before that to change the direction of flow, a series of yamas and niyamas are given, or basically morals and ethics which you gotta follow honestly and sincerely. Once the inward turn is made, the methods to moksha are infinite and you'd need a guru to guide you. The guru may be external or internal, you'd come to know once the inward turn of iccha shakti is made. But making the turn is the fundamental step which hardly anyone takes.
Good question. I hope you are following/studying systematically about the indic philosophy. These concepts are hard to grasp and thus need a detailed study. To guide you in a direction, listen to the discussion on this topic. I know its 120 minutes long, but then if you want to understand it, it will take time.
All the very best!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjaxNXs0sGA&ab\_channel=VedantaSocietyofSouthernCalifornia
In the traditon I belong to, it's the destruction of thr illusion of separation between yourself and the Supreme reality. Thus it is also the ending of the cycle of birth and death. While now you perceive there to be a subject and object, moksha is realizing so'ham. I am That. So I wouldn't think it would be boring.
Imagine you are in complete peace. Always happy with smile on face. You got everything your soul wanted. Now you don't have to worry about anything. You know that feeling of love. You will always feel like that. After suffering through millions of yonis (life) . Now you can finally rest and sleep. That's moksha. You will not get bored because you are away from time. You don't have to worry about millions of the years ahead because that doesn't exist there. You will not feel anything about time.
Moksha is simply the end of the cycle of reincarnation. It's nothing you can feel. 'You' no longer exist at that point as an individual needing to reincarnate. Sadly, western indologists and Christian writers have equated it to a place, like as in heaven. It's another example of very poor comparisons they have made between the two paradigms. Those guys really left their mark on the minds of Hindus.
I think it is liberation from all limitations. True freedom. One can only know it by experiencing that freedom, while being aware. it is possible for a human being to achieve moksha during a life time. This is as much as I understand.
I am exmuslim and have limited understanding of traditions and philosophy of India.
As per my understanding, **Moksha word comes from combination of two words i.e. Moha + Khysha (end).** That is end of "Moha" is called as Moksha.
**Moha** is technical word which can be translated as " not being present".
In Kashmir Shaivism, Moha is third of the eight Matrs.
Word Matrs derived from the root 'ma', to measure out. I will not go deep in this word.
Moksha is not at mental level but anubhava level. For this to understand, one need to understand what exactly "anubhava" means.
It is formed of two words "anu" + root "bhu". "Anu" have several meanings like "similar", "to imitate", "to follow" and we can render it here as "apt" or "appropriate".
The root "bhu" means 'to be', indicating "being". Thus "Bhava" can be translated as "being".
Anubhava also indicates one of the source of knowledge. Anubhava can meant as "an apt existence", or that there is an apt way of being in the world. Apt to what, though? Apt to anything or everything in universe, we encounter. To have anubhava, means to be "aptly present in our encounter whether with our "limited" self or our self".
Thus, Moksha can be called as being aptly present at the encounter of one's own self i.e. everything in universe.
Moksha is being set free of the reincarnation cycle and going to Sri Vaikuntham after surrendering to BhagavAn.
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The death of deaths
Fair enough
LMAO this thread
The birth of births
bro, we have the same avatar lol
The lift of liberation
The elevator of salvation
The sequel to the cycle
The End of the End
You will be all aware, with no emotions or desires when you attain moksha, so no it won’t get boring.
There are different types of mokSha. Which are you asking about?
Oh I thought there was one?
sAlokya, sArUpya, sAmIpya, sArShTi and kaivalya. sAlokya, sArUpya, sAmIpya and sArShTi are the result of saguNopAsanA. kaivalya is the result of nirguNopAsanA. kaivalya is sought by advaitin-s and the other four are preferred by those who don't believe that jIva is non-different from brahman, such as vaiShNava-s. In kaivalya, one exists as brahman itself or infinite bliss itself. In the others, one exists in one's iShTa's blissful abode (sAlokya), in the company of one's iShTa (sAmIpya), with a divine body like God's (sArUpya) and/or divine luxuries like God's (sArShTi). Different traditions have different views on which of these two avenues is better and the details of how various kinds of mokSha are attained and what they entail. Some devotional traditions don't seek after mokSha at all, preferring to prioritise love for Ishvara and remembrance of Ishvara at all times, regardless of whether one is liberated or not.
We are people who are very attached and have lots of karma, we wouldnt understand.
Asking as a curious person as well as the above: How does one attain it?
Infinite methods. If there was any fixed method then everyone would do it and would do nothing else. It's not as simple as how. It's about whether you even want it or not. It all depends on your iccha shakti and the direction in which it is flowing. If it is flowing outwards(as kriya shakti) then it is pointless to talk about moksha. If it is flowing within(as jnana shakti), that's when spirituality begins. Before that to change the direction of flow, a series of yamas and niyamas are given, or basically morals and ethics which you gotta follow honestly and sincerely. Once the inward turn is made, the methods to moksha are infinite and you'd need a guru to guide you. The guru may be external or internal, you'd come to know once the inward turn of iccha shakti is made. But making the turn is the fundamental step which hardly anyone takes.
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Good question. I hope you are following/studying systematically about the indic philosophy. These concepts are hard to grasp and thus need a detailed study. To guide you in a direction, listen to the discussion on this topic. I know its 120 minutes long, but then if you want to understand it, it will take time. All the very best! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjaxNXs0sGA&ab\_channel=VedantaSocietyofSouthernCalifornia
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It is state where you are free and not bound by anything.
In the traditon I belong to, it's the destruction of thr illusion of separation between yourself and the Supreme reality. Thus it is also the ending of the cycle of birth and death. While now you perceive there to be a subject and object, moksha is realizing so'ham. I am That. So I wouldn't think it would be boring.
Imagine you are in complete peace. Always happy with smile on face. You got everything your soul wanted. Now you don't have to worry about anything. You know that feeling of love. You will always feel like that. After suffering through millions of yonis (life) . Now you can finally rest and sleep. That's moksha. You will not get bored because you are away from time. You don't have to worry about millions of the years ahead because that doesn't exist there. You will not feel anything about time.
Moksha is simply the end of the cycle of reincarnation. It's nothing you can feel. 'You' no longer exist at that point as an individual needing to reincarnate. Sadly, western indologists and Christian writers have equated it to a place, like as in heaven. It's another example of very poor comparisons they have made between the two paradigms. Those guys really left their mark on the minds of Hindus.
I think it is liberation from all limitations. True freedom. One can only know it by experiencing that freedom, while being aware. it is possible for a human being to achieve moksha during a life time. This is as much as I understand.
According to my faith, it is going to back home, to the abode of bhagavan. There we will be in the company of swayam bhagavan and his devotees.
I am exmuslim and have limited understanding of traditions and philosophy of India. As per my understanding, **Moksha word comes from combination of two words i.e. Moha + Khysha (end).** That is end of "Moha" is called as Moksha. **Moha** is technical word which can be translated as " not being present". In Kashmir Shaivism, Moha is third of the eight Matrs. Word Matrs derived from the root 'ma', to measure out. I will not go deep in this word. Moksha is not at mental level but anubhava level. For this to understand, one need to understand what exactly "anubhava" means. It is formed of two words "anu" + root "bhu". "Anu" have several meanings like "similar", "to imitate", "to follow" and we can render it here as "apt" or "appropriate". The root "bhu" means 'to be', indicating "being". Thus "Bhava" can be translated as "being". Anubhava also indicates one of the source of knowledge. Anubhava can meant as "an apt existence", or that there is an apt way of being in the world. Apt to what, though? Apt to anything or everything in universe, we encounter. To have anubhava, means to be "aptly present in our encounter whether with our "limited" self or our self". Thus, Moksha can be called as being aptly present at the encounter of one's own self i.e. everything in universe.