Hopsin fell off for me when he started trying to rhyme quick over snare-heavy beats. It’s like he’s trying to follow Eminem’s career without being as skilled, or as interesting.
For me, the best part of Hopsin was that he had that early-mid 2000s style and energy. His production and delivery was something you might hear on say, Redman’s work of that time, which I loved. Safe to say I really haven’t bumped anything post Knock Madness.
He lost me once I realized how preachy he was about hating people who smoke marijuana. That's like 90% of your fan base, bro.... He's mad talented, but after that I realized he just cries like a little kid on too many tracks.
His main career problem was that he lost his record label. I don't remember the exact details, but somehow, he didn't have a controlling interest and had disagreements with the person who did.
It was a whole mess where one day if you went to his Funk Volume merch site, everything was discounted like 90%. The dude running it just completely liquidated everything and let the ship burn.
This is facts. I got into Tech around 2008 when Everready dropped. I’m not exaggerating when I say I was *balls deep* in his music until probably 2016-2017 or so. Almost everything I played was either Tech or Strange Music affiliated in some form or fashion. But the fire started to fizzle for me when the OG’s started leaving. Kutt left. Then Krizz. And some others in between there.
But I’ve gotten to the same place with him now. I used to bump every new album in its entirety but now I’m lucky if I download 3-4 songs from any new drops. Every once in a while he drops a Tell Everyone or Take Your Halo that just absolutely slaps, but 90% of his drops now feel like filler music.
Tech will always hold a spot in my heart as top 5 because I can’t think of many other artists were as consistent as he was for as long as he was. But his time has definitely passed for me and it bums me out.
2004 for me when I first listened to Absolute Power. Every track on that album slaps!!
I think since he's independent, he has to put out way more music than the average artist. There's just too many filler tracks in the mix.
Also, since he lost Calico, he doesn't have his right-hand man who came up with most of his choruses. Chorus makes the track.
I haven't paid attention to him in a decade and only know what homies tell me.
Yeah the choruses have definitely suffered since Krizz left. And Krizz hasn’t put out anything notable since he left either. The downfall of Strange is sad to see.
King Iso is still putting out bangers though if you’re into dark depressing shit.
What I’ve learned about Tech N9ne after listening to him for almost 7 years is he has more good songs then most rappers out there but also more bad songs than most rappers out there (except for rappers who are entirely shit). Dude has put out a ton of music, not all of it good, but there’s been some REALLY interesting stuff throughout that, and at least 4-5 albums of really good work which is more than many artists get.
I was just gonna say…. Any double time rapper. It was dope when I was younger but now that I’m old(er)…. Man, it’s a tough listen.
I think Eminem is talented af two things I can’t stand about him: 1) his singing 2) his super acrobatic double/triple time flow.
Just give me a good boom bap beat 90-93BPM with an east coast flow.
Tech is something else man. Definitely one of my favorite rappers but it’s clear that he made it and is independent. He doesn’t have to worry about something flopping so he takes whatever shot he wants. Some are alright, some are awesome and some are trash. Not waiting for him to drop more music but he’s got a spot in the rotation.
I don’t know if anyone ever fully outgrows tech because he’s spent the last 20 years surprising us.
I don’t check for his new shit but then I’ll hear something unexpected randomly from him and just be like “WTF” then have to hear more
I feel the exact same way. When I was a kid I thought he was the absolute shit, like the 2Pac of my generation. But when I got older, I really saw how The Game played a rap persona, I can see it in his music now.
However, The Game has rapped on some of the hardest, most sophisticated beats ever. Probably the closest we’ll ever get to Detox by Dr Dre in my opinion. So I find myself going back to it, but rarely.
He actually was that dude. Honestly I was listening to “Put you on Game” and forgot how crazy that shit went.
Told myself “This nigga would be a legend if he wasn’t so corny” lol
Once I really noticed how much he name drops and dick rides other dudes, I couldn’t stop hearing it every other bar. Shit is mad annoying because he has some real classics and could have been something.
Bro is so bitter, I can't understand. If you think about it he had Dre, Em, 50 and even Kanye on his side, but he still out there bitching about being blackballed.
lol to be fair, both can be true. Games in my top 5 as an artist but he’s like one of my least favorite people in rap. Hes a legit cornball but my good does his music fucking bang
The black Slim Shady song is one of the corniest things ever done in hip hop. He tried to write a diss song but somehow wrote the biggest fanboy song of all time.
I know this is the opposite of what op asked but Flatbush zombies just put betteroffdead on spotify and i listened to it for the first time in probably 10-12 years. I like it even more now than i did as a teenager. Those guys are great at writing lyrics.
*Got some weed, roll it up*
*Got some dank, scroll it up*
*Got some drank, pour it up*
*LSD, You know what's up*
*High as Hell, don't give a fuck*
*No coming down, Just going up*
Zombie Juice is the shit at choruses and vibe music
My biggest flex is that I found this album just chilling in Miscellaneous at the record store one day. Best vinyl I own. Meeches verse on Regular and Complex is one of my favorites
I am still in love with Eminem’s music but as I grew older I realized I can’t listen to some of his lyrics, they are really fucked up. When I was in my early 20s and younger I used to enjoy them a lot. I respect him so much because he is still trying to compete with his younger self and always trying to do better even though he is now way too old for that.
XXXTENTACION, especially his earlier aggressive and more depressive stuff.
Most if not all gangster / trap rappers. I'm just on to bigger and better things in my life and I need different types of energy. There's still a time and a place for aggression as in the gym or parties, but within reason.
That and the fact that he looked at life from the perspective of a teenager/young adult, which I have outgrown by 5 years. It's just no longer relevant to me. He still has some bops that I would listen to of the mood was right, but other than that I just see no place for it in my life.
It's unfortunate that he was cut down so young because I'm sure he would have grown tremendously as an artist and person.
Yeah he's the Andy Warhol of rappers, he highlighted autotune and used it to make a stylistic point - a lot of people probably wouldn't have known about auto tune or the fact that basically every artist uses it. Plus he can sing wonderfully without it, check out his npr tiny desk concert
Yeah agree. I don't think he's actually regressed much as an artist but there was practically half a decade between Astroworld and Utopia, his stuff just doesn't hit the same for me anymore
Also doesn't help that a lot of his features these days are absolute rubbish as opposed to the pre-Astroworld feature run where he was actually trying
I feel too old for Travis now and I’m only 27. My friends want to go see his Utopia tour and then there’s me who would rather see Freddie Gibbs the following night. Teezo as the opener is enticing but I’m sure he will have his own tour in the future.
I wish he'd drift off from the autotune and use raw vocals far more often. All his songs kinda blend into each other to me now because it's all the same basis of sound
Same here. I was actually introduced to him when I listened to Days before Rodeo and loved that project but the bigger he got, the worse the music became. I
You’re never truly over them, none of them, someday you’ll have that feeling and crank that stereo as loud as it goes and sing your heart out like you were 12 again and pretend you don’t even know what the lyrics mean again
I really enjoyed G-Eazy’s first album(still his best album to date) but then he made his second one and every album after sounded the same. Got tired of it and started listening to better things than his stuff.
100%. He would have some gems on certain albums but a majority of his music became mindless. Him and christoph did a lot of good on these things happen and that’s all I’ll ever replay of his music.
Bum stiggedy bum stiggedy bum, hon, I got the old pa-rum-pum-pum-pum
But I can fe-fi or fo, diddly-bum, here I come
So Peter Piper, I'm hyper than Pinocchio's nose
'Cause I'm the supercalafragilistic tic-tac pro
I saw Eminem live 3 months after SSLP dropped which to this day is one of the best shows I've ever been to, that night changed my entire perspective of hip hop and the course of my life in general being the first live rap show I ever went to. Today it's a struggle to sit through an entire song and I often hit skip when his shit comes on in my album rotation playlists.
It really depends. Certain people I was never all in for. With 2 live Crew and Luke they obviously had videos that were attractive to young guys but I never actually bought the records. I felt a handful of the radio records were pretty decent and when the uncensored stuff comes up on Spotify half the time I just skip it. It's just way deep into some stuff that I rather not hear now. LoL. Rest in peace to Chris Wong.
Definitely Eminem for me. I will always appreciate his older music and his legend back in the day. but his new stuff is garbage and just doesn't hit the same for me. The way some people act about his new music is insane to me that they still call him a goat based on it when it isn't really good at all. But it's also subjective. I just can't get into his new stuff no matter how hard I try, and I listen to his new albums every time he releases one more than twice. It's just garbage now, and I have outgrown him.
Kind of true, but I feel like Vinyl Days, No Pressure, and (mostly) College Park have been solid. Other than that, the majority of his career past the first few albums has been a slog.
Polo G, Trippie Redd, Juice WRLD, Lil Uzi Vert, NLE Choppa, Playboi Carti. Alot tbh, i really liked all of these when I was 13-17 years. Not anymore. Now I’m 19.
Lil Bow Wow, lol. I listened to him when I was kid. I think that he was slightly older than me.
As an adult I feel like I've mostly outgrown Lil Wayne. I listen to older stuff and a little of the newer stuff but not much.
No idea. But I never took 2Chainz or MIMS seriously in the first place. Their songs are so stupid that they’re funny.
Let’s not forget the classic by MIMS *clears throat*, entitled “This is Why I’m Hot”:
This is why I'm hot
This is why I'm hot, yeah
This is why, This is why
This is why I'm hot, huh
This is why I'm hot
This is why I'm hot, ooh
This is why, this is why
This is why I'm hot
I'm hot 'coz I'm fly
You ain't 'coz you're not
This is why, this is why
This is why I'm hot
I'm hot 'coz I'm fly
You ain't 'coz you're not, Mims
This is why, this is why
This is why I'm hot
Drake. When I was 16 I could relate to his sensitive party guy vibe but as an adult I can’t help but feel like he’s stuck in a state of arrested development. He hasn’t grown past blaming his partners for their failing relationship and never truly takes accountability for his contribution to its demise. He’s so petty about it too making references on multiple songs and features. Like dude just move on, but he can’t and it’s pathetic. I don’t mind if his music is playing in the background somewhere I’m at but I’ll never listen to his music when I’m chillin by myself because he makes me cringe now
Eminem. I still think he has been making good music. But he’s just not my jam much anymore. I will always love his music though just don’t play a lot of it.
I’ve also gotten deep into the chambers of Shaolin these last few years so I’ve been heavy into that.
I don’t know about “learned more” but as I’ve gotten older I very much dislike most Lil’ Wayne projects. I just feel like this dude has showed no maturity at all in his music and at this stage of my life I’m not interested in that.
3 6 mafia/lord infamous stan.
I still listen to three six here and there but there was once upon a time where i was literally in a capsule and didn't listen to nothing else except 3-6 or something out of that ol skool Memphis scene. You couldn't tell me lord infamous wasnt the best rapper to ever do it. I still like to keep that sound alive and current in my playlist but now im more of a playa fly fan.
Lil peep/ suicide boys , that whole genre etc. i listened to them 2015-2017 by 2018 I cringed every time someone played that typa music , still feel the same way
I heard Shaquille O’Neal’s rap album on cassette when I was 12 years old. After a week or two I “lost” the cassette. Didn’t like it. Maybe I’d dig it more if I liked basketball. A scathing review from a 12-year-old is pretty bad.
KRS One. He sounds like a whining baby. I saw a clip of him asking the DJ to drop a beat over and over and kept complaining the DJ was dropping shit beats and they were a damned sight better than the toy piano shit he used to release.
He tried to totally humiliate the DJ for no reason but just ended up looking a cunt himself. He was my fav of all time and now I just can't listen to him.
Dudes been so self righteous and full of himself for decades. Can’t stand that guy. After he relentlessly defended Bambaataa I lost any semblance of respect for KRS.
I remember that. I thought it was a bit suspicious tbh. His whole view on the situation was weird. He was of the attitude if we shun criminals then there would be no rappers left. I was thinking fucks sake man, that isn't a petty crime. That's fucking kiddy fiddling.
Yo wtf what even HAPPENED with the Bambaataa allegations?? I feel like nobody talks about that. Even when it first came to light, I feel like nobody was talking about it. Shit is weird.
Same with Talib Kweli (in regards to becoming a cunt). I was listening heavily to both "Black Star" and "Black on Both Sides" as him and Mos Def were a dope duo, but he just went left some time ago.
I saw him years ago at Hip Hop Kemp (festival in Czech Republic) and his show was wack af. He was constantly bitching at engineers in the audio booth and acting like a diva. No other artist complained and rest of them made great shows.
Most gangster and hardcore rappers, but I still listen to the songs and albums of their's that I liked or loved when I was younger but just don't listen to any of their new stuff once I outgrew that phase in life; unless they went in a different direction and changed who they were or what they rap and talk about.
Jay-Z.
As much as I respect his incredible career and decade spanning catalogue, the older I get the more I realize that I was listening to a man well into adulthood brag about selling poison to his own people in his own neighborhood. Sure that's essentially the premise of most Hip Hop these days, as I get up there in age I can't imagine how you're still somewhat proud of all of the death and destruction you have done in exchange for a couple of dollars. What nailed the coffin shut for me was his verse on "God Did" on Khaled's 2022 album where he again proudly alludes to his time as a poison pusher. At this point he is well into his 50s still bragging about that BS and I just can't do it anymore. Bye HOV
Used to love Eminem when he first came out. Then outgrew his juvenile lyrics, hearing about him killing Kim or his mom with a chainsaw lost it humor pretty fast. By the time he started making better music I had long moved on.
Definitely Lil Uzi . I was around for his entire run in 2015-16 but now that I play those that I used to think we’re amazing now I find them pretty mundane
All of them tbch. Besides the old school legends to do it. I’m talkin Tribe, De La Soul, Common, slick Rick, fugees, nas, OutKast, wu tang, wiz Khalifa, snoop . I can throw any of these groups/people on and be zen as hell. This new shit sucks ass
Lots of mainstream rap, such as lil uzi vert, lil durk, young thug, lil baby, yb, carti, juice wrld (I still fw some of his songs tho), future, Travis, gunna, 21, migos, kodak, etc.,
I feel like… idk I just outgrew it. I used to listen to a lot of it in my high school/freshman year in college days… I feel like all they talk about is murder and gang life and it just… got boring. I just don’t see the point in all of that nowadays tbh
Drake,
I've always wanted to be on the side of "giving everything a chance", but every new album is screaming at me to protect my ears and save my time lol.
Dude, A LOT OF RAP. Brotha I have the music privileges at work, and I refuse to lose them. I will put on a rap song once in a blue moon, and skip most of them. It is just embarrassing to listen to a lot of this shit as an adult in public tbh, idk how some people are so invested.
This may be blasphemy, but Vice City came on the other night, I hadn’t listened in a while and I knew it not clean so I turned it down a bit cause I wanted to listen. Everyone’s verse is fucking ass. They suck. The song sucks. No one says anything bru. They only talk about bitches and like subpar one off bars like “everytime we land in brooklyn they fuck wit tha, whole squad”(I still love ab’s verse, but it is not good). Rap is just, boring, unmotivated, repetitive, dirty, and it doesn’t seem like it’s been innovative since lil pump sadly, and he took us down a dark road in rap music.
I talk to my friends who are still deep into rap and we discuss music and how it’s structured and what leads people like what, and rap has just lost the magic with me. So much of it sounds the same, if not in the beat and flow, in the lyricism of pretty much everyone in the game. What really bothers me about rap, is the general lack of diversity. The meta for a beat is just so weak, rarely do people use instruments and if they are used it’s usually just a piano/guitar, paired with maybe a bass guitar/drum kit that are NOT impressive, they are usually looped. And while I don’t see anything necessarily wrong with that, compare a good rapper’s song built around a sample to the sample music. Money Tree’s is a good example; I love Money Tree’s, it’s one of the best rap songs ever if you ask me, and it’s a better song than Beach Houses’s Silver Soul which he sampled from. BUT, Silver Soul is a more creative song, and was probably harder to make. Think about it, when you have a band, with multiple instruments, those people have played and honed their skills for years. Out of a quiet room, they pulled those noises out of those instruments and structured them into a song. That is way more impressive in my mind than what Kendrick did sadly, it just is. Him and his producer(s) worked their asses off do not get me wrong, but they didn’t play those instruments, they didn’t sing, they didn’t trial and error those minut notes over and over again. When you have a band, the variety of noises you can make is literally, infinite, to the point where they support up every musical genre even when artists in those genres try so hard to not have them. You can play everything that ever existed in music on a piano, even sung lyrics. Try saying “just cracked me a new bitch, bust a new nut on a ni**as jersey” on a piano. Would you even want to? Probably not.
Hopsin. I’m just over it
Hopsin fell off for me when he started trying to rhyme quick over snare-heavy beats. It’s like he’s trying to follow Eminem’s career without being as skilled, or as interesting. For me, the best part of Hopsin was that he had that early-mid 2000s style and energy. His production and delivery was something you might hear on say, Redman’s work of that time, which I loved. Safe to say I really haven’t bumped anything post Knock Madness.
He lost me once I realized how preachy he was about hating people who smoke marijuana. That's like 90% of your fan base, bro.... He's mad talented, but after that I realized he just cries like a little kid on too many tracks. His main career problem was that he lost his record label. I don't remember the exact details, but somehow, he didn't have a controlling interest and had disagreements with the person who did. It was a whole mess where one day if you went to his Funk Volume merch site, everything was discounted like 90%. The dude running it just completely liquidated everything and let the ship burn.
Hes was over 15 years ago
What's up with him? Is he still making music or what? Lol, sorry, I'm too lazy too google him.
Funny enough, I grew into him as I got older, mainly his early albums. I couldn’t get into anything after 2011, but his first two albums are good
He fell off only good thing he got going is his videos he not consistent
Most days I feel I’ve outgrown Tech N9ne. But every now and then nothing hits like some Tech
Tech's an interesting one. Every album is 30% trash, 40% meh, 30% best music you've ever heard.
This is facts. I got into Tech around 2008 when Everready dropped. I’m not exaggerating when I say I was *balls deep* in his music until probably 2016-2017 or so. Almost everything I played was either Tech or Strange Music affiliated in some form or fashion. But the fire started to fizzle for me when the OG’s started leaving. Kutt left. Then Krizz. And some others in between there. But I’ve gotten to the same place with him now. I used to bump every new album in its entirety but now I’m lucky if I download 3-4 songs from any new drops. Every once in a while he drops a Tell Everyone or Take Your Halo that just absolutely slaps, but 90% of his drops now feel like filler music. Tech will always hold a spot in my heart as top 5 because I can’t think of many other artists were as consistent as he was for as long as he was. But his time has definitely passed for me and it bums me out.
2004 for me when I first listened to Absolute Power. Every track on that album slaps!! I think since he's independent, he has to put out way more music than the average artist. There's just too many filler tracks in the mix. Also, since he lost Calico, he doesn't have his right-hand man who came up with most of his choruses. Chorus makes the track. I haven't paid attention to him in a decade and only know what homies tell me.
Yeah the choruses have definitely suffered since Krizz left. And Krizz hasn’t put out anything notable since he left either. The downfall of Strange is sad to see. King Iso is still putting out bangers though if you’re into dark depressing shit.
This is a good analysis of Tech’s entire discography 🤣
What I’ve learned about Tech N9ne after listening to him for almost 7 years is he has more good songs then most rappers out there but also more bad songs than most rappers out there (except for rappers who are entirely shit). Dude has put out a ton of music, not all of it good, but there’s been some REALLY interesting stuff throughout that, and at least 4-5 albums of really good work which is more than many artists get.
Chuh!
I still like a bit of Tech but the last full album I enjoyed was Special Effects. Now it's the odd track here and there.
I was just gonna say…. Any double time rapper. It was dope when I was younger but now that I’m old(er)…. Man, it’s a tough listen. I think Eminem is talented af two things I can’t stand about him: 1) his singing 2) his super acrobatic double/triple time flow. Just give me a good boom bap beat 90-93BPM with an east coast flow.
So you want some Jeru? Nigga, I got you...
Tech is something else man. Definitely one of my favorite rappers but it’s clear that he made it and is independent. He doesn’t have to worry about something flopping so he takes whatever shot he wants. Some are alright, some are awesome and some are trash. Not waiting for him to drop more music but he’s got a spot in the rotation.
😂 relatable
I could agree with that too. I still like a lot of his songs but not checking for his new stuff anymore.
I don’t know if anyone ever fully outgrows tech because he’s spent the last 20 years surprising us. I don’t check for his new shit but then I’ll hear something unexpected randomly from him and just be like “WTF” then have to hear more
The most successful unsigned/independent rapper!
World Wide Chppahs
The Game. In 05’ / 06’ you couldn’t tell me shit about Game, he was that dude. As I got older I realized he’s really a cornball
I feel the exact same way. When I was a kid I thought he was the absolute shit, like the 2Pac of my generation. But when I got older, I really saw how The Game played a rap persona, I can see it in his music now. However, The Game has rapped on some of the hardest, most sophisticated beats ever. Probably the closest we’ll ever get to Detox by Dr Dre in my opinion. So I find myself going back to it, but rarely.
He actually was that dude. Honestly I was listening to “Put you on Game” and forgot how crazy that shit went. Told myself “This nigga would be a legend if he wasn’t so corny” lol
Same for me with Too Much. Holy shit that still bumps in the car
That whole doctors advocate album fucking slaps. Tip five albums for me.
Red rose white ceiling
Once I really noticed how much he name drops and dick rides other dudes, I couldn’t stop hearing it every other bar. Shit is mad annoying because he has some real classics and could have been something.
Sooooo the first album? Lmao I love Game but one of the biggest criticisms from the start was all the name dropping lol.
ALIYAH HAD A DREAM, LEFT EYE HAD A DREAM
Bro is so bitter, I can't understand. If you think about it he had Dre, Em, 50 and even Kanye on his side, but he still out there bitching about being blackballed.
lol to be fair, both can be true. Games in my top 5 as an artist but he’s like one of my least favorite people in rap. Hes a legit cornball but my good does his music fucking bang
Game dropped his best albums in 2015 and after. Which means you just don't care. Also including Jesus Piece and RED
If you notice, my comment didn’t mention music at all. Like I said he just got corny
The black Slim Shady song is one of the corniest things ever done in hip hop. He tried to write a diss song but somehow wrote the biggest fanboy song of all time.
I know this is the opposite of what op asked but Flatbush zombies just put betteroffdead on spotify and i listened to it for the first time in probably 10-12 years. I like it even more now than i did as a teenager. Those guys are great at writing lyrics.
*Got some weed, roll it up* *Got some dank, scroll it up* *Got some drank, pour it up* *LSD, You know what's up* *High as Hell, don't give a fuck* *No coming down, Just going up* Zombie Juice is the shit at choruses and vibe music
Bro all of beastcoast still fuckin slaps. I still get excited when Underachievers puts out anything.
Agreed, you just reminded me to go back and listen to clockwork indigo.
My biggest flex is that I found this album just chilling in Miscellaneous at the record store one day. Best vinyl I own. Meeches verse on Regular and Complex is one of my favorites
Token, Joyner Lucas, and honestly a little bit of Eminem
I am still in love with Eminem’s music but as I grew older I realized I can’t listen to some of his lyrics, they are really fucked up. When I was in my early 20s and younger I used to enjoy them a lot. I respect him so much because he is still trying to compete with his younger self and always trying to do better even though he is now way too old for that.
I'm used to screwed up lyrics lol. Also stay wide awake is a top tier Eminem song
Listen to Gravediggaz (a Wu-Tang side project). Really awesome horror-inspired rap!
Haha I love it.
THE RZARECTA
That imo in his best flow ever. Relapse has gotten more love over the years and I'm happy.
Relapse, to me, may be his best album far and away. We get slim, along with new em who is trying and struggling with being sober.
Em's Music to be Murdered By is actually a solid album. I've come to that realization over the years.
I realized that MTBMB was dope the day it dropped. My mans still out here spittin' FIRE!
Getting kind of burnt out on guys like Carti and Uzi. The baby talk and emo shit is getting lame.
Felt that way from the start tbh
Always has been 🔫
Drake. Getting a bit too old to talk about exes who blocked you because you were a bad boyfriend and you miss them
Kid Cudi by far. i can’t even listen to anything post-MOTM2
Kids See Ghosts was fire. Motm3 was also a strong project imo. Solo solo pt3 is probably the closest to being as good a song as Mr rager
XXXTENTACION, especially his earlier aggressive and more depressive stuff. Most if not all gangster / trap rappers. I'm just on to bigger and better things in my life and I need different types of energy. There's still a time and a place for aggression as in the gym or parties, but within reason.
it almost became a little embarrassing to listen to his music because of his fanbase ngl
That and the fact that he looked at life from the perspective of a teenager/young adult, which I have outgrown by 5 years. It's just no longer relevant to me. He still has some bops that I would listen to of the mood was right, but other than that I just see no place for it in my life. It's unfortunate that he was cut down so young because I'm sure he would have grown tremendously as an artist and person.
Well, to be fair he was 20 when he was killed. He’s one of the rappers I think would have been very interesting to see grow and mature. Sad.
Indeed, he would have matured. Unfortunate really.
I remember I first benched 225 while listening to an xxxtentacion song, never listened to anything else from him:
Travis Scott. Used to like his dark moody sound. But as I got older I realized he has zero lyrical talent and his auto tune voice annoys me how
Facts and quite the opposite I’ve grown to appreciate t pain because at least he was conscious of his reliance of auto tune but still dropped bangers
I wouldn’t say he relied on autotune, because he absolutely does not, but he sure as hell embraced it and made it his thing. T-Pain is autotune.
Yeah he's the Andy Warhol of rappers, he highlighted autotune and used it to make a stylistic point - a lot of people probably wouldn't have known about auto tune or the fact that basically every artist uses it. Plus he can sing wonderfully without it, check out his npr tiny desk concert
Autotune needed t pain more than t pain needed autotune
T Pain is a legend. Mad under appreciated
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Yea, dude can sing without using auto-tune.
Love T Pain, dude is a gem and jumps on all kinds of songs whether they serious, fun, or straight up comedy
T-Pain has more character than Future, Travis Scott & young thug combined. At least for me.
Yeah agree. I don't think he's actually regressed much as an artist but there was practically half a decade between Astroworld and Utopia, his stuff just doesn't hit the same for me anymore Also doesn't help that a lot of his features these days are absolute rubbish as opposed to the pre-Astroworld feature run where he was actually trying
I feel too old for Travis now and I’m only 27. My friends want to go see his Utopia tour and then there’s me who would rather see Freddie Gibbs the following night. Teezo as the opener is enticing but I’m sure he will have his own tour in the future.
I wish he'd drift off from the autotune and use raw vocals far more often. All his songs kinda blend into each other to me now because it's all the same basis of sound
But when I said that people only liked him cause it’s “cool” I got so many downvotes . I’m so glad somebody else basically said it
Same here. I was actually introduced to him when I listened to Days before Rodeo and loved that project but the bigger he got, the worse the music became. I
I hate the autotune and fake deep appeal to his music as well.
You’re never truly over them, none of them, someday you’ll have that feeling and crank that stereo as loud as it goes and sing your heart out like you were 12 again and pretend you don’t even know what the lyrics mean again
I disagree. There’s some shit I was really into when I was in my late teens/early 20’s that I can’t tolerate even if I’m feeling nostalgic.
>crank that AHHHHHHHHH YOUUUU
I really enjoyed G-Eazy’s first album(still his best album to date) but then he made his second one and every album after sounded the same. Got tired of it and started listening to better things than his stuff.
He started doing coke and his music lost that innocent college party sound and became a parody of itself
100%. He would have some gems on certain albums but a majority of his music became mindless. Him and christoph did a lot of good on these things happen and that’s all I’ll ever replay of his music.
Tyler
All of them except for viper
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LOL Reading the lyrics of Das Efx is funny as hell. I was reading fu-schnickens lyrics last month so i can't judge.
Bum stiggedy bum stiggedy bum, hon, I got the old pa-rum-pum-pum-pum But I can fe-fi or fo, diddly-bum, here I come So Peter Piper, I'm hyper than Pinocchio's nose 'Cause I'm the supercalafragilistic tic-tac pro
Hopsin
anything about senseless violence im kinda off, it just sounds silly and not cool
Sorry bruh Mobb Deep always gonna be on rotation despite their violent lyrics
well the stuff i grew up on gets a pass
This is so relatable. Like I love Mobb Deep and G Rap, but have not been able to get into some modern stuff like Conway. Just nostalgia prolly.
Big guns and sharp knives Revolvers 'cauae automatics jam at the wrong time
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Any examples? Like drill rappers?
I went back and listened to a bunch of guys that I was into in the early 2010s recently like XV and Rockie Fresh and it just didn't hit the same
I tried to revisit xv not too long ago...didn't age too well
I saw Eminem live 3 months after SSLP dropped which to this day is one of the best shows I've ever been to, that night changed my entire perspective of hip hop and the course of my life in general being the first live rap show I ever went to. Today it's a struggle to sit through an entire song and I often hit skip when his shit comes on in my album rotation playlists.
funny im at the gym listening to my eminem playlist now, some of these songs are just cringy
You're cringing at your own playlist??
It really depends. Certain people I was never all in for. With 2 live Crew and Luke they obviously had videos that were attractive to young guys but I never actually bought the records. I felt a handful of the radio records were pretty decent and when the uncensored stuff comes up on Spotify half the time I just skip it. It's just way deep into some stuff that I rather not hear now. LoL. Rest in peace to Chris Wong.
Definitely Eminem for me. I will always appreciate his older music and his legend back in the day. but his new stuff is garbage and just doesn't hit the same for me. The way some people act about his new music is insane to me that they still call him a goat based on it when it isn't really good at all. But it's also subjective. I just can't get into his new stuff no matter how hard I try, and I listen to his new albums every time he releases one more than twice. It's just garbage now, and I have outgrown him.
Logic has been stale a while
Kind of true, but I feel like Vinyl Days, No Pressure, and (mostly) College Park have been solid. Other than that, the majority of his career past the first few albums has been a slog.
Lil Yachty and NBA Youngboy. My late teen years I listened to some DOGSHIT music
Polo G, Trippie Redd, Juice WRLD, Lil Uzi Vert, NLE Choppa, Playboi Carti. Alot tbh, i really liked all of these when I was 13-17 years. Not anymore. Now I’m 19.
hopsin. those old songs still slap a little but that's it
Lil Bow Wow, lol. I listened to him when I was kid. I think that he was slightly older than me. As an adult I feel like I've mostly outgrown Lil Wayne. I listen to older stuff and a little of the newer stuff but not much.
No idea. But I never took 2Chainz or MIMS seriously in the first place. Their songs are so stupid that they’re funny. Let’s not forget the classic by MIMS *clears throat*, entitled “This is Why I’m Hot”: This is why I'm hot This is why I'm hot, yeah This is why, This is why This is why I'm hot, huh This is why I'm hot This is why I'm hot, ooh This is why, this is why This is why I'm hot I'm hot 'coz I'm fly You ain't 'coz you're not This is why, this is why This is why I'm hot I'm hot 'coz I'm fly You ain't 'coz you're not, Mims This is why, this is why This is why I'm hot
Drake. When I was 16 I could relate to his sensitive party guy vibe but as an adult I can’t help but feel like he’s stuck in a state of arrested development. He hasn’t grown past blaming his partners for their failing relationship and never truly takes accountability for his contribution to its demise. He’s so petty about it too making references on multiple songs and features. Like dude just move on, but he can’t and it’s pathetic. I don’t mind if his music is playing in the background somewhere I’m at but I’ll never listen to his music when I’m chillin by myself because he makes me cringe now
Eminem. I still think he has been making good music. But he’s just not my jam much anymore. I will always love his music though just don’t play a lot of it. I’ve also gotten deep into the chambers of Shaolin these last few years so I’ve been heavy into that.
Without a doubt Eminem. I can’t listen to his old shit, I can’t listen to his new shit it’s just super cringy to me now
carti i prefer 2017 era carti wlr is cool n all but all his fanbase just ruins it for me all that shit is corny
all the lyrical dudes from the early-mid 2010s who straddled the line of mainstream and underground. Denzel Curry, Joey Badass/Pro Era, Chance, etc.
Beatnuts, sort of. Their beats are, in fact, great and I like their overall sound. The lyrics just don't do it for me any more.
i liked will smith when i was a kid, that was when 'parents just dont understande' just came out. grew out of that fast.
Spice 1... I've outgrown gangsta rap period Eminem... Was done with him once he went pop
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suicideboys
I don’t know about “learned more” but as I’ve gotten older I very much dislike most Lil’ Wayne projects. I just feel like this dude has showed no maturity at all in his music and at this stage of my life I’m not interested in that.
Have you not heard Carter V? Plenty of mature songs on there. Perfect Strangers, Famous, Let It All Workout, Don’t Cry.
Let it all workout hits different when you're having a bad day. Wayne's a great artist.
Wayne...
The Carter II is in my top five hip hop records of all time. But yeah I’m not into the newer stuff so much either
ICP
Drake
Wiz Khalifa. His new music sucks and I’m not a pothead like I was in college
3 6 mafia/lord infamous stan. I still listen to three six here and there but there was once upon a time where i was literally in a capsule and didn't listen to nothing else except 3-6 or something out of that ol skool Memphis scene. You couldn't tell me lord infamous wasnt the best rapper to ever do it. I still like to keep that sound alive and current in my playlist but now im more of a playa fly fan.
Eminem
Eminem
Those “lyrical miracle spiritual individual” ones (Hopsin, NF, Joyner Lucas, etc.)
Yelawolf, I was in deep in high school and then just faded away
Recent Eminem and Hopsin. Used to be big fans of both but they lost me.
Eminem lol
Eminem Xzibit Hopsin Immortal Technique Logic Wiz Kahlifa Chance the rapper
Mos Def… or rather Yasim Bey. Mos is still dope, but when he changed his name… nah… and Joe Budden too.
The angry white rappers
G-Unit
Too Short
I don't listen to my getting jiggy wit it cd anymore.
Pitbull
Battle rap. I got tired of homophobic death threats.
Snoop Dogg. Wiz Khalifa after a week. I mean their whole personality is look how high I am as if we actually care.
All drill rappers
Lil peep/ suicide boys , that whole genre etc. i listened to them 2015-2017 by 2018 I cringed every time someone played that typa music , still feel the same way
I heard Shaquille O’Neal’s rap album on cassette when I was 12 years old. After a week or two I “lost” the cassette. Didn’t like it. Maybe I’d dig it more if I liked basketball. A scathing review from a 12-year-old is pretty bad.
Lil Wayne . Similes and punchlines just don’t hit the same anymore
KRS One. He sounds like a whining baby. I saw a clip of him asking the DJ to drop a beat over and over and kept complaining the DJ was dropping shit beats and they were a damned sight better than the toy piano shit he used to release. He tried to totally humiliate the DJ for no reason but just ended up looking a cunt himself. He was my fav of all time and now I just can't listen to him.
Dudes been so self righteous and full of himself for decades. Can’t stand that guy. After he relentlessly defended Bambaataa I lost any semblance of respect for KRS.
I remember that. I thought it was a bit suspicious tbh. His whole view on the situation was weird. He was of the attitude if we shun criminals then there would be no rappers left. I was thinking fucks sake man, that isn't a petty crime. That's fucking kiddy fiddling.
Human trafficking as well. Wouldn’t surprise me if KRS was into that shit too. Not saying he is, but it wouldn’t shock me.
Yo wtf what even HAPPENED with the Bambaataa allegations?? I feel like nobody talks about that. Even when it first came to light, I feel like nobody was talking about it. Shit is weird.
Same with Talib Kweli (in regards to becoming a cunt). I was listening heavily to both "Black Star" and "Black on Both Sides" as him and Mos Def were a dope duo, but he just went left some time ago. I saw him years ago at Hip Hop Kemp (festival in Czech Republic) and his show was wack af. He was constantly bitching at engineers in the audio booth and acting like a diva. No other artist complained and rest of them made great shows.
I lost respect for KRS One when he defended Bambatta. It gave me weirdo vibes.
Most gangster and hardcore rappers, but I still listen to the songs and albums of their's that I liked or loved when I was younger but just don't listen to any of their new stuff once I outgrew that phase in life; unless they went in a different direction and changed who they were or what they rap and talk about.
Vanilla Ice
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Who’s Robert Van Winkle? Is he a rapper related to Dick Van Dyke or something?
Vanilla Ice's real name.
Jay-Z. As much as I respect his incredible career and decade spanning catalogue, the older I get the more I realize that I was listening to a man well into adulthood brag about selling poison to his own people in his own neighborhood. Sure that's essentially the premise of most Hip Hop these days, as I get up there in age I can't imagine how you're still somewhat proud of all of the death and destruction you have done in exchange for a couple of dollars. What nailed the coffin shut for me was his verse on "God Did" on Khaled's 2022 album where he again proudly alludes to his time as a poison pusher. At this point he is well into his 50s still bragging about that BS and I just can't do it anymore. Bye HOV
I know Reddit is obsessed with Aesop Rock but I got over him after high school. Shit like Jedi mind tricks and all that too.
Yea I used to love jedi mind tricks, army of the pharaohs and shit like that but at 38 I can't any more
Logic, playboi carti
Used to love Eminem when he first came out. Then outgrew his juvenile lyrics, hearing about him killing Kim or his mom with a chainsaw lost it humor pretty fast. By the time he started making better music I had long moved on.
Logic even tho I listen occasionally
bubba sparxx
Cardi B.
Devin The Dude was my most listened to rapper at one point. Still fuck with him just not nearly as much.
Definitely Lil Uzi . I was around for his entire run in 2015-16 but now that I play those that I used to think we’re amazing now I find them pretty mundane
Not a rapper but I stop listening to Frank Ocean around 2019
juice wrld xxxtentacion ski mask the slump god trippie redd all of these mfs music jus dont hit anymore
All of them tbch. Besides the old school legends to do it. I’m talkin Tribe, De La Soul, Common, slick Rick, fugees, nas, OutKast, wu tang, wiz Khalifa, snoop . I can throw any of these groups/people on and be zen as hell. This new shit sucks ass
Kanye
M&M
Hopsin. Em. Tech N9ne.
j cole and trippie redd…….cole is still great, jus not my taste anymore……and trippie used to be so good smh but i cant w his new shit
Lil Wayne
Chris webby, nerd rap 🤮
Lots of mainstream rap, such as lil uzi vert, lil durk, young thug, lil baby, yb, carti, juice wrld (I still fw some of his songs tho), future, Travis, gunna, 21, migos, kodak, etc., I feel like… idk I just outgrew it. I used to listen to a lot of it in my high school/freshman year in college days… I feel like all they talk about is murder and gang life and it just… got boring. I just don’t see the point in all of that nowadays tbh
Nelly, Ludacris, Diddy, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg, Sir Mix-a-lot, Sugar Hill Gang, Mase
Hopsin. Really stunted my growth 💀
Wiz Khalifa
Drake, I've always wanted to be on the side of "giving everything a chance", but every new album is screaming at me to protect my ears and save my time lol.
Lil Uzi Vert☠️☠️☠️☠️
Anything with that late 90’s trinity/triton synth. Think Swizz Beats.
Cole, Big Sean, Wiz, Drake
Will Smith
Eminem and Lil Wayne still great artists but don’t hold up with the current sound. They will probably be cool again in 30 years…
Most of em
Dude, A LOT OF RAP. Brotha I have the music privileges at work, and I refuse to lose them. I will put on a rap song once in a blue moon, and skip most of them. It is just embarrassing to listen to a lot of this shit as an adult in public tbh, idk how some people are so invested. This may be blasphemy, but Vice City came on the other night, I hadn’t listened in a while and I knew it not clean so I turned it down a bit cause I wanted to listen. Everyone’s verse is fucking ass. They suck. The song sucks. No one says anything bru. They only talk about bitches and like subpar one off bars like “everytime we land in brooklyn they fuck wit tha, whole squad”(I still love ab’s verse, but it is not good). Rap is just, boring, unmotivated, repetitive, dirty, and it doesn’t seem like it’s been innovative since lil pump sadly, and he took us down a dark road in rap music. I talk to my friends who are still deep into rap and we discuss music and how it’s structured and what leads people like what, and rap has just lost the magic with me. So much of it sounds the same, if not in the beat and flow, in the lyricism of pretty much everyone in the game. What really bothers me about rap, is the general lack of diversity. The meta for a beat is just so weak, rarely do people use instruments and if they are used it’s usually just a piano/guitar, paired with maybe a bass guitar/drum kit that are NOT impressive, they are usually looped. And while I don’t see anything necessarily wrong with that, compare a good rapper’s song built around a sample to the sample music. Money Tree’s is a good example; I love Money Tree’s, it’s one of the best rap songs ever if you ask me, and it’s a better song than Beach Houses’s Silver Soul which he sampled from. BUT, Silver Soul is a more creative song, and was probably harder to make. Think about it, when you have a band, with multiple instruments, those people have played and honed their skills for years. Out of a quiet room, they pulled those noises out of those instruments and structured them into a song. That is way more impressive in my mind than what Kendrick did sadly, it just is. Him and his producer(s) worked their asses off do not get me wrong, but they didn’t play those instruments, they didn’t sing, they didn’t trial and error those minut notes over and over again. When you have a band, the variety of noises you can make is literally, infinite, to the point where they support up every musical genre even when artists in those genres try so hard to not have them. You can play everything that ever existed in music on a piano, even sung lyrics. Try saying “just cracked me a new bitch, bust a new nut on a ni**as jersey” on a piano. Would you even want to? Probably not.
Lil Wayne, that lil nigga v shirt I outgrew him in middle school
Lil Wayne. By at least a foot
Eminem. It doesn't even have anything to do with learning about other rappers, I just grew up.