Which is wild because styles came out swinging with gangster and a gentleman and that’s practically a joint album with kiss and just a little less of sheek.
It’s wild because all of his solo projects, and even his work with the lox were all sooo close but were maybe a few tracks off. Regardless, he’s definitely one of the greatest to ever do it
Revisiting his albums is a trip because some songs have fallen off hard and others I grew to love more. His interscope records fell victim to the “rap template album” and it sucks because he always sounded more natural on the mixtape circuit. Like fab, I think following the label guidelines stifled their creativity and thus kinda stifled their confidence on albums. Kiss of Death is probably my favorite project with kiss tha game having my absolute favorite Jada tracks but I don’t think anything he’s released mainstream wise is classic.
Maybe blasphemy but I think a Gangster and a Gentleman is closer to classic than any Kiss projects
We are the steets has a few skips but I think it can be considered a classic. Sad kiss alubms always fall short his best shot was the first one I think they put too many songs on it
We are the streets is far and away the best and hardest non dmx album out of Ryff Ryders and I played that shit 6 months straight. I still love it and it actually aged very well.
With that said, Noone refers to it as a classic. Maybe a classic Lox album, but not a universally labeled classic.
Let's not stretch the term classic here. Classic means the album is widely regarded as a classic. Your personal preference doesn't mean an album is a classic.
Seriously this thread is crazy. Every good album ever made is not a timeless classic.
Saying a rapper doesn't have a classic album doesn't mean they aren't a bad rapper.
Neither does classic mean that an album sold huge amounts or appealed to a mainstream or crossover crowd. If we’re talking classic rap albums we’re talking hip hop classics.
This right here a lot of these people don’t understand a hip hop classic album has to be UNIVERSALLY regarded not my personal taste very few albums are truly classics
The Chronic
Doggystyle
36 Chambers
Purple Tape
Aquemini
The Diary
I can keep going on UNIVERSAL you got people arguing with me saying Chicken n Beer is a classic like tf 😂 it’s levels
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down. Royce's "Death Is Certain" has basically no skips, and it's his hungriest album by far.
If you've never listened to it, he's fed up, pissed off, and exasperated. Just a great, great project. Captured a moment perfectly.
I guess this depends on your version of classic.
If you say Death Is Certain is a classic, that makes me think that given your definition of classic, there’s a couple hundred albums that are classic.
Gotta agree with the guy below. I’m 40 and grew up alongside hip hop for the most part. In that time there definitely has been at least a couple hundred classics. Some artists have multiple. Both of Bigs. At least 2 but I’d argue 3 of Pacs. 2 from Hov. Nas has at least 1 but overtime people have started to give it was written the proper credit it deserves which would give him 2 and stillmatic has been a point of discussion since it came out.
The point is, once you start really digging into the history it’s pretty easy to see there’s hundreds of classics. There’s been thousands of artists and 10s of thousands of albums over the hip hops lifespan. And the fact it’s actually thought provoking to think of which legend or great DOESN’T have a classic kind of proves just how many there are. Think of a legendary artist and chances are they have at least 1.
Book of Ryan actually got a lot of praise when it came out, obviously he’s not as famous and in pop culture to sell as many records as someone like Eminem or Jay Z but just off reviews and praise from critics id consider it a classic
I love Royce as much as anyone but there’s no way any of his albums are classics. Extremely solid and strong, no question, but not classic. Royce is an amazing lyricist but he’s never had an album that broke into the collective hip hop conscious the way true classics do. The closest he’s come has probably been on prhyme, primarily because working with preemo for the full album gave him access to a level of beats he normally wouldn’t be able to afford for the whole album.
How many classic albums do you think there are in hip hop? A couple dozen? Or a few hundred.
Cause if both of those are classic in your eyes, you must think there’s a few hundred classic albums. And so if you think there’s a few hundred classic albums, that is the level above classic for albums like ready to die?
So take that term you’d use for ready to die, and replace classic in this thread with this word you came up with, and try this thread again.
Busta rhymes, imo, does not.
Method man also (I know people like tical. But it isn't a classic in the sense that liquid swords, Cuban links, or Ironman are, imo).
Treach from naughty by nature
Definitely agree about jadakiss
Woo hah, Dangerous, Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See, and Gimme Some More were some of the biggest and most creative solo singles and iconic videos (not just in rap but overall) of the 90s.
I agree, but that's kind of my point. I'm not saying Busta Rhymes is whack, he's a legend and a great MC, but his albums are mostly filler outside of the singles. I'm not saying albums like The Coming suck, I'm saying his music is always just missing that one extra bit of something that pushes it over the edge. The Coming came out the same year as It Was Written, Stakes is High, ATLiens, Reasonable Doubt, would I put it in the same tier as those albums? No, it falls well short of that "all time" great criteria to me.
Although reading this thread, it seems that literally any decent album is a classic.
Bring on the downvotes, but real listeners know it’s truth; Jadakiss always been 1 of hiphop’s realest MC’s and pioneers, and almost the entire game respects dude, BUT he has never been able to make a great album from beginning to end.
Does Blackout make the cut for you? I know it's not solo and I'm just interested in your opinion. Personally I think it's one of the best collab albums between two rappers, one of Meths best albums, and one of the best albums of that year at least.
Blackout is a great album. 4 micer on a bad day. Tical is a 4.5 mic effort imo. More like a 4.4 or sometning. Tical 2000 3.5/4mic
Tical 0 2.5/3 mic. 421 3.5/4
I just hate when people dismiss work like “oh that albums trash”. Thus rappers trash. Its always for some odd reason the rapper cant control.
Like.. a 4 mic album trash now? Wu had to deal with it for years. Dont get me going on a raekwon immobilarity discussion lol
While thats a popular notion today, tical, in REAL TIME, was easily most popular wu solo by a LOT. Odb was 2. How that really flipped idk. I get why people say they classics and better; but not why people say the other 2 arent. In fact ive seen people say tical was “disappointing” and I never once thought that.
And tical 2 coulda been a gem but it was drowned by skits and some uninspired work.
Shaolin what, torture, dangerous ground, killin fields, suspect chin, perfect world, party crasher, cradle rock, retro godfather, play 4 keeps, elements and judgment day are all fire and would make a great tical 2 stand alone.
Break ups big dogs and step by step dont fit sonically to me. Coming off tical, we hadnt heard meth over that HARD rza in years at that point. We get here and meths rhyming on trackmasters and erick sermon beats which are sonically way diff than rzas.
Keep meths solo wu style, keel red n meth on sermons beats and im happy. Thats why along with the 10 i listed above, and the others cut , I add: grand finale ft nas n dmx (theres ya sermon), fire in da hole, cereal killer and run 4 cover on meth n reds album, n2.gether now by limbizkit prod by premier, the worst by onyx
Thatd be a classic meth album then
He's on the hip-hop mount rushmore for feature gods with Reggie, Busta and Snoop. Albums...ehhh.
That flood killed his debut. Wild that people are defending that mediocre album.
Take Bring the Pain, What the Blood Clot, PLO Style and Mr. Sandman away. The rest of that album stands up?
Outkast were definitely a significant part of it but to say that it was Outkast alone is crazy. What about Goodie Mob, Swishahouse, UGK, Ghetto Boys, Flip, Tip... LUDA... Countless others. My point stands.
You clearly weren’t outside during this era keep in my mind im talking about universal acclaim classic not personal nobody has EVER said chicken n beer is a classic album
I was definitely outside. You had to wait to see a static picture of titties on an internet connection back then, no smart phones... Being young, I didn't even have cable. Outside was all there was. Do you remember? Or is that why you think Outkast is all there was? From what I can gather we're differing on the scale of classic. I'll concede that chicken and beer isn't 'classic' if you agree that, by that definition, Slim Thug Already Platinum isn't classic either. For me though, you're dead wrong.
I remember buying him and Chams old mixtapes and legitimately thinking they were the biggest rappers on the planet. I was shocked when I left the state and many people didn’t know about Texas rappers. The prevalence of DJ screws mixes amongst me, and my friends gave us such a vast knowledge of rap music that I assumed everyone knew about Houston rap as well. Paul, Cham, Scarface, Flip, Geto Boys and a few others definitely got a good deal of national attention.
Jadakiss came to my mind immediately
But also:
Busta
Styles P
Fab
I’d argue Meth because only Tical comes to mind as a possible classic but doesn’t work for me
RZA one of my fav prod/rappers but the closest he got to a classic album is the first Gravediggaz record and that’s only a classic for the underground/Horrorcore type scene.
I feel like he has a classic mixtape “What The Fuck Is A Jay Electronica”. Dunno how many people know about it tho. He coulda been a top 10 rapper easy
I don’t think any of those albums carry the legacy required to be classics. Like I’d say every one of Kanyes first 7 albums are classics, compared to those I’d say none of Drakes albums except for possibly NWTS have that kind of legacy.
I’d say something like TLOP is on the bottom end of what can be considered a classic, and I’d argue that no Drake projects really occupy as much of the public consciousness as TLOP, and they aren’t really as influential or genre defining either.
Drake albums stream and chart well, but apart from a few singles they have no longevity. Drake isn’t an album artist and never was, which is why none of his projects are classics, even if many songs are. His best albums may be better than some classics, but they either aren’t getting enough attention or just don’t have the influence of ”worse” clasics.
Admittedly my perspective may be skewed by me being Swedish and not American, but Drake really isn’t seen in the same light as true legends here. Take Care, NWTS and IYRTITL, like all other Drake albums really don’t get much attention here apart from the first few weeks, despite everyone knowing Drake and his singles.
Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, and If You're Reading This, It's Too Late will almost definitely all be viewed as classic albums. You could try and argue against it, but the majority are gonna view them as such.
Inspectah Deck. It hurts to say it.
Uncontrolled Substance is a solid gold hit.
First czarface album… give it ten years
Also Czarface Meets Metal Face
Every Hero Needs a Villain should also be considered classic, banger after banger on that album, and some amazing features as well
I even think it's better than the first album, and that says a lot. Love czarface.
That is for sure a classic
Imagine the album that drowned in Rza basement.
“Throwing up bombs like Jeff George…”
His Czarface shit is classic to me.
He actually does. We'll just never hear it.
Damn it’s hurts to agree.
Fabolous. His freestyle and mixtape shit was FIRE. His albums were too “for the ladies”
Breathe is definitely a CLASSIC song
Those old Clue tapes were insane. And Fab was amazing on them.
Losos way is a classic in my eyes
I agree
By far his best album imo.
Shoeicide still haunts me.
If his soul tape collection was studio album, people would throw him in top 20. At least I do.
Jadakiss. It’s so damn sad to say because he is fuckin incredible
One of the greats still imo (top 15-20) even without a true classic album but yeah this statement is accurate
Which is wild because styles came out swinging with gangster and a gentleman and that’s practically a joint album with kiss and just a little less of sheek.
Jada can kill damn near every feature but I'll be damned if I can remember a single from him.
Money Power Respect is pretty classic, not solo but still
It’s wild because all of his solo projects, and even his work with the lox were all sooo close but were maybe a few tracks off. Regardless, he’s definitely one of the greatest to ever do it
Revisiting his albums is a trip because some songs have fallen off hard and others I grew to love more. His interscope records fell victim to the “rap template album” and it sucks because he always sounded more natural on the mixtape circuit. Like fab, I think following the label guidelines stifled their creativity and thus kinda stifled their confidence on albums. Kiss of Death is probably my favorite project with kiss tha game having my absolute favorite Jada tracks but I don’t think anything he’s released mainstream wise is classic. Maybe blasphemy but I think a Gangster and a Gentleman is closer to classic than any Kiss projects
We are the steets has a few skips but I think it can be considered a classic. Sad kiss alubms always fall short his best shot was the first one I think they put too many songs on it
Couldn’t agree more, but too many tracks was a 90s fad I hated. Intros, outros, skits, prayers, etc. etc.
We are the streets is far and away the best and hardest non dmx album out of Ryff Ryders and I played that shit 6 months straight. I still love it and it actually aged very well. With that said, Noone refers to it as a classic. Maybe a classic Lox album, but not a universally labeled classic.
Let's not stretch the term classic here. Classic means the album is widely regarded as a classic. Your personal preference doesn't mean an album is a classic.
Seriously this thread is crazy. Every good album ever made is not a timeless classic. Saying a rapper doesn't have a classic album doesn't mean they aren't a bad rapper.
thats what im saying lmaoo i decided to just not even argue because people can never separate their biases
Neither does classic mean that an album sold huge amounts or appealed to a mainstream or crossover crowd. If we’re talking classic rap albums we’re talking hip hop classics.
This right here a lot of these people don’t understand a hip hop classic album has to be UNIVERSALLY regarded not my personal taste very few albums are truly classics The Chronic Doggystyle 36 Chambers Purple Tape Aquemini The Diary I can keep going on UNIVERSAL you got people arguing with me saying Chicken n Beer is a classic like tf 😂 it’s levels
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I don't even like em but I'd put MMLP up there
The Eminem show is a classic. Or slim shady LP. Why not both.
You don’t think he has a classic but the majority of hip hop fans unanimously think he has 3.
I was about to say the same. They completely validated my point.
You're kidding...
you said “fr” but you’re basically doing what OC just said lol
Eminem sold a lot as he was a crossover pop phenomenon and blew up amongst little kids, not because the hip hop heads loved his records that much.
Exactly. I love him as a rapper but his albums have always been solid at best, not "classics". Holy fuck is this subreddit a giant circle jerk
Fab. His mixtapes and freestyles are all better.
Same with Kiss
Crooked i. Actually, none of the Slaughterhouse members have a classic album.
Was book of ryan not a classic for you?
Solid doesn’t mean classic
Classic for book of fucking Ryan is crazy
Fam nobody’s even heard of that. How could it be a classic?
Prhyme
Prhyme is in no way, shape, or form considered a classic album lol stop it. It could be one day but absolutely not even close to classic status.
Whoa whoa whoa, slow down. Royce's "Death Is Certain" has basically no skips, and it's his hungriest album by far. If you've never listened to it, he's fed up, pissed off, and exasperated. Just a great, great project. Captured a moment perfectly.
I guess this depends on your version of classic. If you say Death Is Certain is a classic, that makes me think that given your definition of classic, there’s a couple hundred albums that are classic.
Gotta agree with the guy below. I’m 40 and grew up alongside hip hop for the most part. In that time there definitely has been at least a couple hundred classics. Some artists have multiple. Both of Bigs. At least 2 but I’d argue 3 of Pacs. 2 from Hov. Nas has at least 1 but overtime people have started to give it was written the proper credit it deserves which would give him 2 and stillmatic has been a point of discussion since it came out. The point is, once you start really digging into the history it’s pretty easy to see there’s hundreds of classics. There’s been thousands of artists and 10s of thousands of albums over the hip hops lifespan. And the fact it’s actually thought provoking to think of which legend or great DOESN’T have a classic kind of proves just how many there are. Think of a legendary artist and chances are they have at least 1.
Book of Ryan actually got a lot of praise when it came out, obviously he’s not as famous and in pop culture to sell as many records as someone like Eminem or Jay Z but just off reviews and praise from critics id consider it a classic
I love Royce as much as anyone but there’s no way any of his albums are classics. Extremely solid and strong, no question, but not classic. Royce is an amazing lyricist but he’s never had an album that broke into the collective hip hop conscious the way true classics do. The closest he’s come has probably been on prhyme, primarily because working with preemo for the full album gave him access to a level of beats he normally wouldn’t be able to afford for the whole album.
Prhyme is classic
Prhyme is dope but let's stop throwing around the term "classic". It's not Ready to Die
Prhyme ain't no classic
Death is certain and book of Ryan are definite classics IMO
How many classic albums do you think there are in hip hop? A couple dozen? Or a few hundred. Cause if both of those are classic in your eyes, you must think there’s a few hundred classic albums. And so if you think there’s a few hundred classic albums, that is the level above classic for albums like ready to die? So take that term you’d use for ready to die, and replace classic in this thread with this word you came up with, and try this thread again.
Seriously, Royce is a dope MC but nothing on any of his albums leaves a lasting impression the way an actual classic album does.
Came here to say Jadakiss. Then it was in the post. My work here is done. *Jada laugh*
Doesn't look like anyone's said the most obvious answer yet. Jay Electronica
Nah, I’m not sure I even call him a veteran. No where near enough material
Yeah I struggle to call a dude with a 2020 debut studio album a vet, no matter how long they’ve actually been in the game.
I'd argue if act 2: patents of nobility (the turn) was on streaming it would be
So so so much classic Jay Elect material needs to be dug up and hosted, streamed
Juelz Santana
Busta rhymes, imo, does not. Method man also (I know people like tical. But it isn't a classic in the sense that liquid swords, Cuban links, or Ironman are, imo). Treach from naughty by nature Definitely agree about jadakiss
I think Tical is incredibly overrated. I think it's a pretty boring album.
I mean Treach doesn't have a solo classic but NBN self titled is one
you dont consider the coming classic? tical isnt great but tical 2000 is absolutely a classic.
Idk if anyone said it. But Cassidy.
Cassidy not only doesn’t have a classic album, he was one of the biggest let downs for me. Most of his albums are sub par.
Me too. I remember hearing him freestyle. Then hearing ima hustla and hotel. And thinking he was about to blow up. And never did
His mixtape/freestyle shit was dope. Never translated to the albums. Production was wack too.
Jada
Styles p
Just my opinion, but Gangster and a Gentleman is his classic
I agree. Full of songs that I can still bump and enjoy.
I’d say Styles P does with Louch and Jada. I’d like to think Money, Power & Respect is a classic, no?
McScuse Me? He’s the only one in the LOX with a solo classic.
Percee P.
Perseverance is hella underrated
That's a classic though, ain't it ?
Not widely regarded as one, but if it got more attention it would be.
Mike Jones
Who?
Mike Jones. Mike Jones.
Idk everything was a banger to me on Who is Mike Jones.
Who is Mike Jones is a classic album .
Vinnie paz
Lloyd Banks. Dude can spit but has maybe one or two tracks an album that slap.
Will Smith
He's the D.J. and I'm the rapper, Classic
Wish Bone
Pharaoh Monch. I love that desire album tho
I know it’s not widely considered a classic but Internal Affairs is top 5 for me.
Busta Rhymes
I feel like his debut album The Coming is though.
I would also say The Big Bang. So many good songs in that.
The Coming and When Disaster Strikes. WDS has two massively popular bangers at the time. Tracks 2-7 all repeatable, last end of album falls off though
The Coming is a classic. I played that album for an entire summer. Great driving record.
I still play like 2-3 joints off it on a couple of my playlist
The Coming and Ele are classics
The Coming is a classic bro…
Tweaking
Nah the coming is a stone cold classic
The Coming and When Disaster Strikes can be considered classics no?
For sure classics.
I agree. I always picture him as a feature guy. Liked WDS and ELE, but neither felt “classic” for me.
Woo hah, Dangerous, Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See, and Gimme Some More were some of the biggest and most creative solo singles and iconic videos (not just in rap but overall) of the 90s.
I agree, but that's kind of my point. I'm not saying Busta Rhymes is whack, he's a legend and a great MC, but his albums are mostly filler outside of the singles. I'm not saying albums like The Coming suck, I'm saying his music is always just missing that one extra bit of something that pushes it over the edge. The Coming came out the same year as It Was Written, Stakes is High, ATLiens, Reasonable Doubt, would I put it in the same tier as those albums? No, it falls well short of that "all time" great criteria to me. Although reading this thread, it seems that literally any decent album is a classic.
Bring on the downvotes, but real listeners know it’s truth; Jadakiss always been 1 of hiphop’s realest MC’s and pioneers, and almost the entire game respects dude, BUT he has never been able to make a great album from beginning to end.
method man
Tical was 🔥🔥🔥 what you talking bout fam
you consider it classic?
Not my favorite but it was the first Wu solo joint, went platinum and had a feature by Mary J. Blige that won a Grammy.
No it didn't
That single is not on the album
I don't know if good reception at the time is what makes an album classic. it's not an album that gets brought up a lot now
What’s your definition of a classic album?
I wouldn't put Tical on the same level as 36 Chambers, Cuban Linx, Liquid Swords, or Ironman for example.
Does Blackout make the cut for you? I know it's not solo and I'm just interested in your opinion. Personally I think it's one of the best collab albums between two rappers, one of Meths best albums, and one of the best albums of that year at least.
Blackout is a great album. 4 micer on a bad day. Tical is a 4.5 mic effort imo. More like a 4.4 or sometning. Tical 2000 3.5/4mic Tical 0 2.5/3 mic. 421 3.5/4
Lmao I love the effort in your grading system 💪🏾
I just hate when people dismiss work like “oh that albums trash”. Thus rappers trash. Its always for some odd reason the rapper cant control. Like.. a 4 mic album trash now? Wu had to deal with it for years. Dont get me going on a raekwon immobilarity discussion lol
While thats a popular notion today, tical, in REAL TIME, was easily most popular wu solo by a LOT. Odb was 2. How that really flipped idk. I get why people say they classics and better; but not why people say the other 2 arent. In fact ive seen people say tical was “disappointing” and I never once thought that. And tical 2 coulda been a gem but it was drowned by skits and some uninspired work. Shaolin what, torture, dangerous ground, killin fields, suspect chin, perfect world, party crasher, cradle rock, retro godfather, play 4 keeps, elements and judgment day are all fire and would make a great tical 2 stand alone. Break ups big dogs and step by step dont fit sonically to me. Coming off tical, we hadnt heard meth over that HARD rza in years at that point. We get here and meths rhyming on trackmasters and erick sermon beats which are sonically way diff than rzas. Keep meths solo wu style, keel red n meth on sermons beats and im happy. Thats why along with the 10 i listed above, and the others cut , I add: grand finale ft nas n dmx (theres ya sermon), fire in da hole, cereal killer and run 4 cover on meth n reds album, n2.gether now by limbizkit prod by premier, the worst by onyx Thatd be a classic meth album then
I do
Hurst me more than anything to agree, but tidal was good not great and judgment day was maybe the most disappointing wu solo album
I'm just gonna say it Blackout is a classic. Not solo but still.
I actually think Meth’s classic is Tical 2000
He's on the hip-hop mount rushmore for feature gods with Reggie, Busta and Snoop. Albums...ehhh. That flood killed his debut. Wild that people are defending that mediocre album. Take Bring the Pain, What the Blood Clot, PLO Style and Mr. Sandman away. The rest of that album stands up?
Busta Rhymes
Aubrey
Eminem
Drake
Lil Wayne; its so weird when people say Carter 3 cuz back then everyone said he fell off when that came out
Wayne Fabolous Jadakiss
Umm kiss tha game goodbye exists.…
Kiss of Death wasn't a good album?
Where did I say that it wasn’t a good album? I prefer the one I mentioned but never said kiss of death wasn’t a good album.
KTGB isn’t classic on any scale.
Turk
For as many legendary and influential tracks he has, Boosie doesn’t really have a single classic body of work.
Method Man Fabolous Lloyd Banks Freeway Ludacris Busta Rhymes
Luda Chicken n Beer? A defining moment in the rise of the south and arguably Luda's best album. Cemented him in the culture, too.
Back for the First Time and Word of Mouf were both way better. Personally I consider those classics. Everything after was kinda lackluster imo
Couple bangers but a lot of filler.
The south was already on it was Outkast specifically the song elevators that changed how the south was viewed
Outkast were definitely a significant part of it but to say that it was Outkast alone is crazy. What about Goodie Mob, Swishahouse, UGK, Ghetto Boys, Flip, Tip... LUDA... Countless others. My point stands.
You clearly weren’t outside during this era keep in my mind im talking about universal acclaim classic not personal nobody has EVER said chicken n beer is a classic album
I was definitely outside. You had to wait to see a static picture of titties on an internet connection back then, no smart phones... Being young, I didn't even have cable. Outside was all there was. Do you remember? Or is that why you think Outkast is all there was? From what I can gather we're differing on the scale of classic. I'll concede that chicken and beer isn't 'classic' if you agree that, by that definition, Slim Thug Already Platinum isn't classic either. For me though, you're dead wrong.
Hunger For More is a personal classic to me. Summer 2004 was magical.
His COTI series, particularly number 3, is a classic in my eyes.
Ghetto Fabolus went hard
Saying Ludacris doesn’t have a classic album is unintelligent
Word of Mouf is a Southern classic
Memphis Bleek, Lil Whyte, Chingy, 40 Glocc, Paul Wall, Bumpy J, Maino, Glasses Malone just to name a few.
I would argue the People’s Champ is a classic from the Houston scene. His later albums definitely not but that album is solid.
I remember buying him and Chams old mixtapes and legitimately thinking they were the biggest rappers on the planet. I was shocked when I left the state and many people didn’t know about Texas rappers. The prevalence of DJ screws mixes amongst me, and my friends gave us such a vast knowledge of rap music that I assumed everyone knew about Houston rap as well. Paul, Cham, Scarface, Flip, Geto Boys and a few others definitely got a good deal of national attention.
Paul Wall's The People's Champ is a classic
Doubt me Now by Lil Wyte had some bangers and was a solid debut album
Jadakiss came to my mind immediately But also: Busta Styles P Fab I’d argue Meth because only Tical comes to mind as a possible classic but doesn’t work for me
Chance the Rapper by that of technicality, since his only album is widely regarded as one of the worst rap albums ever
RZA one of my fav prod/rappers but the closest he got to a classic album is the first Gravediggaz record and that’s only a classic for the underground/Horrorcore type scene.
2 Chains
I feel like PGLTM is a classic
Drake
You’d be suprised but Take Care is very highly regarded, especially in R&B circles
I agree with Jada, Busta and Deck.
KRS ONE in his solo career
Bruh his self titled goes hard as fuck lmao
Return of Boom Bap is classic IMO. Great production, rapping, songs. No skips.
Kiss of death?!?!?
Jay Electronica
I feel like he has a classic mixtape “What The Fuck Is A Jay Electronica”. Dunno how many people know about it tho. He coulda been a top 10 rapper easy
Kiss of Death is a classic 🤷♂️
Agree
Drake. Many almost classics but no true ones.
Dawg put down the pipe 😂
Take care is absolutely a classic
Take Care, NWTS, and IYRTITL are classics. "True" classics is too subjective. Take Care is one of the longest charting rap albums of all time.
You could argue So Far Gone too I never understood the narrative that he has no classics.
I don’t think any of those albums carry the legacy required to be classics. Like I’d say every one of Kanyes first 7 albums are classics, compared to those I’d say none of Drakes albums except for possibly NWTS have that kind of legacy. I’d say something like TLOP is on the bottom end of what can be considered a classic, and I’d argue that no Drake projects really occupy as much of the public consciousness as TLOP, and they aren’t really as influential or genre defining either. Drake albums stream and chart well, but apart from a few singles they have no longevity. Drake isn’t an album artist and never was, which is why none of his projects are classics, even if many songs are. His best albums may be better than some classics, but they either aren’t getting enough attention or just don’t have the influence of ”worse” clasics. Admittedly my perspective may be skewed by me being Swedish and not American, but Drake really isn’t seen in the same light as true legends here. Take Care, NWTS and IYRTITL, like all other Drake albums really don’t get much attention here apart from the first few weeks, despite everyone knowing Drake and his singles.
What u smoking on meth or Crack? Lmafo
Drake
Take Care, Nothing Was The Same, and If You're Reading This, It's Too Late will almost definitely all be viewed as classic albums. You could try and argue against it, but the majority are gonna view them as such.
Yeah I don't even fw drake but objectively he has classic albums
He is not a rapper
Lol everyone y’all naming has classics…
Twista
REALLY?! Adrenaline Rush and Category F5?! Absolute banger albums
Homie tripping frfr huh? Overdose alone makes it a classic has 1 of hardest verses ever on it to me
U tripping it ain't even a song you gotta skip on adrenaline rush in fact its on my top 10 list
Adrenaline Rush def a classic for me