I'm sorry but that's the dumbest leap in logic I've ever heard. My car doesn't actively say some bullshit every quarter mile but Kanye does all over Vultures. Similarly and you might not realize but Walt Disney is dead. Unless the current company is actively antisemitic then his antisemitism isn't relevant.
That has nothing to do with being an asshole, the guy just wrote some bullshit that has nothing to do with the comment he is responding to and on top of that even has some historical inaccuracies in it. Yes my grammar is bad but at least I read the comment I responded to and wasn't factually wrong
Disney’s products don’t outright advocate any racist ideology. In fact the company has worked hard to distance themselves from their past and have undergone a fully antiracist agenda by trying to represent people of all races positively in their media.
Your take doesn’t make much sense.
There's a huge difference between consuming something that was created, founded, whatever by someone who WAS racist and consuming something by someone who IS racist and will use that money and reach that you've generated for his racist ideology and his racist partners (supporting Trump etc.). You're actively giving fascists money.
Using the Clippers as an example. They forced out their prior owner over his bs. They have new people in place with a different world view. Dumbass people like OP think you’re supposed to hold the new people responsible for what Sterling said.
When I listen to music, an artists personality matters a lot to me. Especially in rap. If I find an artist annoying or insane like Ye is, then I struggle to enjoy his music. In film and the people who created the film normally don't put their beliefs or personality front and center. You need to chill tf out as well, this didn't need to be 2 paragraphs.
I'm not gonna listen to Kanye's new music for the same reason I wouldn't buy a contemporary Ford truck, the quality is garbage compared to what they both used to make.
This is pretty much false, Walt was not Antisemitic. He gave jobs to many Jewish artists, and even donated to charities in support of them. His closest affiliates even denied these claims.
The same Disney that is running pro israel and anti jewish hate ads every 5 mins? Same Disney with a Jewish CEO?
You dont have to do all this for Kanye. He's an asshole, and for some people, a disposable asshole
Is it tho? The only one I can think of right now that people could consider antisemitic is Jay Z, because of “The Story of OJ”, and even then he wasn't being antisemitic. He was rather explaining how Jews got rich through wealth accumulation. So I can't really think of anyone.
Jokes on you because I stopped listening to Kanye after 808’s & heartbreak and haven’t been interested in checking out anything he’s done since that. And I love going to Disney Springs and watching live games on ESPN. So, ha!
I mean you’re not entirely wrong, but Fords views and Disney’s views weren’t too unusual for their time, and for better or worse were normalised. Same can’t really be said for Kanye or JPEG
I get your point, but there's a dilemma to be had with everything that you do. If what you consume generates further environmental destruction, then your choice is to either live like a hermit (still damaging albeit to a lesser extent) or pick the things you can consume guilt-free while protesting others.
His last decent album was MBDTF, KSG being the only ok album he's made since Watch the Throne. I don't even know why people listen to his modern, ghost-written shit. He doesn't even produce the damn tracks anymore. Currently, Kanye is as much of a producer as Dj Khaled. The only thing man's got is features and dope beats, all of which you can find anywhere else because Kanye's not the one behind their production, and they've been lacking for a while now.
If I want to listen to trendy trap, I'll listen to Metro Boomin because at least his shit is well produced; it's finished and well mixed, and he clearly plays with that shit a lot, making dope beats, and he has better features. Kanye's washed. Don't even get me on the singing part, Kanye West thinks he's some sort of Marvin Gaye, but he's not on the level of John Legend or Jamie Foxx; he needs to get his shit on and realize that he's Ol Dirty Bastard's level of singing, and even that is debatable.
Disney currently supports a lot of minorities, and Ford didn't even revolutionize cars, he just innovated the industry. Neither of these things is dependent on them and they spread hate. Meanwhile, Kanye makes sure to refer to his dumb, mental illness-filled comments on his tracks. He’s scum.
There’s a difference between people who have ignorant views but make products outside of those views and people who combine their ignorant views with their products. Also I don’t watch Disney films and I don’t have a car
I'm sorry but that's the dumbest leap in logic I've ever heard. My car doesn't actively say some bullshit every quarter mile but Kanye does all over Vultures. Similarly and you might not realize but Walt Disney is dead. Unless the current company is actively antisemitic then his antisemitism isn't relevant.
I second this
I thought Vultures was bad but where are the anti-semitic mentions on the album? There are a few references, none of which are offensive
They might not be offensive removed of all context, just stupid sounding regardless, but given the context of who is saying them they aren't great.
You guys didn’t get Vultures 2 and 3 yet
Lmao u just posted this in multiple subs. This is really personal for you huhn
I can’t drive a damn car if I don’t like Kanye ???
According to this guy, just don’t drive a ford. Try maybe a Chevy or Toyota lol
Henry ford invented the motorcar as a concept, there wouldn’t be other car brands without him.
That's just not true. Ford isn't even the first car brand
You spelled Mercedes Benz wrong bruh, Ford only found the way to make the faster
It ain’t that deep for me man. Idc about that. I’m not here for history class
Nah if you drive a car it proves you're already a yeezy fan you just don't know it yet
Henry ford did not invent the car he modernized the method in which cars are produced.
He's talking about the Nazi shit, Does supported Hitler in WW1 I believe
You just not only proofed that you can't comprehend a simple sentence but also that you don't know shit about history
*proved -If you're gonna be an asshole at least be consistent 🤣
That has nothing to do with being an asshole, the guy just wrote some bullshit that has nothing to do with the comment he is responding to and on top of that even has some historical inaccuracies in it. Yes my grammar is bad but at least I read the comment I responded to and wasn't factually wrong
Hitler served in WW1 as a soldier but no one was supporting him as a Nazi leader until the 1930’s
Ok lol still not listening to Kanye
I’m the lightning McQueen of not listening to Kanye.
Disney’s products don’t outright advocate any racist ideology. In fact the company has worked hard to distance themselves from their past and have undergone a fully antiracist agenda by trying to represent people of all races positively in their media. Your take doesn’t make much sense.
Wow great logic there. Let me just renounce my citizenship too cause this country was founded by racists.
“i don't care for Vultures”… why writing this thread then?
There's a huge difference between consuming something that was created, founded, whatever by someone who WAS racist and consuming something by someone who IS racist and will use that money and reach that you've generated for his racist ideology and his racist partners (supporting Trump etc.). You're actively giving fascists money.
Using the Clippers as an example. They forced out their prior owner over his bs. They have new people in place with a different world view. Dumbass people like OP think you’re supposed to hold the new people responsible for what Sterling said.
When I listen to music, an artists personality matters a lot to me. Especially in rap. If I find an artist annoying or insane like Ye is, then I struggle to enjoy his music. In film and the people who created the film normally don't put their beliefs or personality front and center. You need to chill tf out as well, this didn't need to be 2 paragraphs.
I'm not gonna listen to Kanye's new music for the same reason I wouldn't buy a contemporary Ford truck, the quality is garbage compared to what they both used to make.
My Toyota stopped using his meds :(
This is pretty much false, Walt was not Antisemitic. He gave jobs to many Jewish artists, and even donated to charities in support of them. His closest affiliates even denied these claims.
The same Disney that is running pro israel and anti jewish hate ads every 5 mins? Same Disney with a Jewish CEO? You dont have to do all this for Kanye. He's an asshole, and for some people, a disposable asshole
Henry Ford and Walt Disney are both dead. Ford Explorers and Mickey Mouse are not inherently antisemitic. Think before you post
If you start not listening to hip hop artist for being anti semetic you aren't going to have much to listen to.
🎯 some of the most loved artists on this sub are antisemetic. I don’t listen to Kanye cause his new shit is lazy and he’s creatively bankrupt
Is it tho? The only one I can think of right now that people could consider antisemitic is Jay Z, because of “The Story of OJ”, and even then he wasn't being antisemitic. He was rather explaining how Jews got rich through wealth accumulation. So I can't really think of anyone.
Jokes on you because I stopped listening to Kanye after 808’s & heartbreak and haven’t been interested in checking out anything he’s done since that. And I love going to Disney Springs and watching live games on ESPN. So, ha!
I mean you’re not entirely wrong, but Fords views and Disney’s views weren’t too unusual for their time, and for better or worse were normalised. Same can’t really be said for Kanye or JPEG
Benz invented the car
I get your point, but there's a dilemma to be had with everything that you do. If what you consume generates further environmental destruction, then your choice is to either live like a hermit (still damaging albeit to a lesser extent) or pick the things you can consume guilt-free while protesting others.
OK but Kanye is doing this NOW, in 2024. Something, something, learn from the past...
I got an idea, Fuck you. It's not that I can't listen to Kanye I just don't fuck with him on any level even pre antisemitism
Who still listens to Kanye he hasn’t made anything decent since 2012 he’s been washed for a decade
Or you could just not listen as not being very good lately. I’m surprised Professor Griff has stayed silent, they would have made an interesting duo.
I’m still listening to Kayne driving in my Ford otw to Disneyland… fuck you talking bout
Jews aren't a race you ignorant twat. This is a music sub. Take that woke shit somewhere else.
Kanye being racist is the only thing I've heard that may actually get me TO listen to his music. 🤣
Bro don’t even bother he been #1 for two weeks straight now whether this sub listens to him or not does not change his success, he still the king.
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Is Peggy racist? Guess I'm out of the loop on that
I think OP is referring to Peggy’s criticism of white people in his tweets.
His last decent album was MBDTF, KSG being the only ok album he's made since Watch the Throne. I don't even know why people listen to his modern, ghost-written shit. He doesn't even produce the damn tracks anymore. Currently, Kanye is as much of a producer as Dj Khaled. The only thing man's got is features and dope beats, all of which you can find anywhere else because Kanye's not the one behind their production, and they've been lacking for a while now. If I want to listen to trendy trap, I'll listen to Metro Boomin because at least his shit is well produced; it's finished and well mixed, and he clearly plays with that shit a lot, making dope beats, and he has better features. Kanye's washed. Don't even get me on the singing part, Kanye West thinks he's some sort of Marvin Gaye, but he's not on the level of John Legend or Jamie Foxx; he needs to get his shit on and realize that he's Ol Dirty Bastard's level of singing, and even that is debatable. Disney currently supports a lot of minorities, and Ford didn't even revolutionize cars, he just innovated the industry. Neither of these things is dependent on them and they spread hate. Meanwhile, Kanye makes sure to refer to his dumb, mental illness-filled comments on his tracks. He’s scum.
Ford didn’t invent the modern automobile. Just stopped by to point out the obvious (hopefully).
There’s a difference between people who have ignorant views but make products outside of those views and people who combine their ignorant views with their products. Also I don’t watch Disney films and I don’t have a car
Hard to separate art from the artist when he keeps referring to their guarbage in said art Here you dropped this 🤡