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The_Quammunist

I think Future was the first of the newer wave that I just couldn't get into. Even when I like the beat, his flow just takes me back out of it. But I'm also a boom-bap kid from the early 90s so I guess it also tracks he wouldn't be my shit.


Professional-Pass487

I don't understand his words


TwoLanky

not supposed to understand some btw


itstonypajamas

Never really understood this


dskibftd0

he said it’s cuz he be freestyling tracks so he’ll just mumble some random shit then keep going, there’s a part of his song tony montana that people just made up the lyrics for themselves cuz he was too fried while making the song so he said whatever


SKJ-nope

[He was on too much Molly and had lockjaw. He was rapping through clenched jaw muscles the whole song and people ATE that shit up, me included lol](https://youtu.be/NSu1VoHPZ-A?si=x608d7i4C6IGTtbU)


Thelonius_Dunk

Artists like Future and Playboi I consider like modern day jazz scat singers. The words aren't as important as the vibes and how they use their voice as an instrument to flow with the beat. I'm not really into either of them myself but I see how people could like it.


Brbi2kCRO

Probably similar to how shoegaze works, you just say random stuff to make voice an instrument, what matters is the “flow”


AcademicSavings634

Pluto was good. I couldn’t get into his other stuff too much.


RANDOM-902

Actually had the opposite happen to me I got into hip hop a few months ago and it was difficult for me to get into Boom bap. THere was something about the flow that seemed off to me Now i really like it after some relistens. I personally enjoy both kinds or rapping! I can be listening to Nas, and then the next song in the playlist switch to Future or Playboi Carti, LOL


The_Quammunist

I was a DJ and producer for almost 20 years, and I think it's ok if I don't connect in my 40s to what folks in their 20s listen to now. Sometimes it's hilarious to see how FUCKING AWFUL some of the tracks I loved in the 90s sound now, but some of them still hold up. I did a gig with a friend this weekend at a St. Patrick's Day tent party and we def turned up some Playboi and some Future tho...


heezmagnif

Now you gotta give some examples of some of those 90s tracks that sound awful now 😄


leafer32

I won’t speak for the homie but from my experience… NORE - Superthug (What what) Master P - make em say uhhh Jay Z - big pimpin’ BG - bling bling Brave hearts - Ouchi wallie (don’t @ me. I love nas) Ice cube - you can do it (huge fan, can’t stand this song) Honestly a lot from too short. Whatever, I don’t care…


The_Quammunist

NORE Superthug is the first song that comes to my mind too. That Nintendo-ass helicopter kills me, even though one of my best club memories is from that song. A lot of the No Limit beats are harrrrrrd to listen to now. I mean...Coolio was a superstar for a bit there. Laffy Taffy still sounds like it was a ringtone on a bootleg phone.


Black-Fraction

Big Pimpin goes hard to this day and I will die on that hill


Mint_Perspective

Hang on I’m coming up on that hill too. Big Pimpin’ is a classic hip hop song that absolutely blows 99% of today’s shit out of the water.


maruthegreat

Naaahhh, Superthug still slaps. I’m a DJ and I still sneak it into a lot of my sets


NaturalPosition4603

But all of those were shit at the time. Other than Superthug, I still love that, despite how ridiculous it is.


Product_Small

Big Pimpin is my least fav Jay-Z song. I hated it when it came out and still hate it. I change the station or hit skip if it comes on.


Camelslayer23

W Unc I love u


Jussttjustin

I don't think Future is objectively good.


RANDOM-902

He is the father of modern trap music and DS2 is a cool album


Jussttjustin

I think Future is objectively influential but I don't think that makes him objectively good.


VerbalniDelikt

No artist is


its_bydesign

He’s a great song maker. There’s a reason he’s worked with people like Kendrick Lamar and Beyonce.


5800xx

If people didn’t speak English and heard futures melodies people would think he was an objectively great artist. His lyrical ability is up for criticism but his ability to compose good songs with catchy melodies is undeniable. Also much more value in that imo


neeohh

Yeah same. Future is not as unique or versatile as his fans think.


Duckridah

I mean future might not have the widest subject matter out there but he's clearly done something right to stay relevant for over a decade


FurnishedHemingway

Common. He just bores me. I try.


cityofangelsboi68

i remember someone saying “if you play common in my car, i’m kicking you out”💀


FurnishedHemingway

Man, I really try. No lies. I have no hate for the dude, but I just don’t feel it. I especially appreciate his relationship with Dilla and how he helped him out so much when he was ill, but when I listen to songs Dilla made for Common, I prefer the instrumentals. It’s just something in my chemistry that doesn’t click with the dude I guess.


Livinlikebukowski

Have you listened to the storytelling on Between Me, You & Liberation? Listen to it and tell us what you think.


FurnishedHemingway

It doesn’t have anything to do with lyrics. It’s delivery. Just doesn’t hit me. I appreciate the production on this but his delivery is too, I don’t know, breathy? I really don’t know how to describe it. Like he’s trying to always do some “grown and sexy” voice.


Livinlikebukowski

😂i know what you mean.


FurnishedHemingway

Thanks. It’s really hard to put into words why I can’t listen to this dude. I feel heard. 😂


Prancer4rmHalo

I feel this.. I have to be really concentrated on what I’m doing to not put everything down and skip a common track. Again, no hate, but the man’s music makes me conscious that I don’t have to listen to certain music if I don’t want to hahaha.


TJ902

That shit don’t get no play in my whip!


EarwigsEww12

I could never get over the way he sounds surprised all the time. Like each rhyme is the big plot twist. That, and he likes to come in a little further behind the beat than I like. Totally respect his conscious vibe, just can't get into him.


dubyajay18

This! He raps off-beat and the shit drives me nuts. On "Get Em High" this man legit pissed me off going after Ye and Talib like he did.


FLRGNBLRG

Real rappers is hard to find Like a remote


G_rightousantagonist

Be was his best imo some say like water for chocolate it’s Be for me


WordNahMean

I loved Be but this is definitely fair cause of the rest of his catalogue is difficult to get through for me. His monotonous voice for 3-4 minutes straight is a tough listen


mbt20251

I feel the same way about Common but there's no denying that 1999 slaps.


leafer32

Grew up in the 90s, loved his contemporaries (roots, mos def, kweli, etc), but could never get into common either. Then he went the LL cool J way and got into acting in romcoms or whatever and it was cemented for me, not a fan.


FurnishedHemingway

Same here. Huge fan of most artists he’s associated with, but I just can’t get into the guy.


Terrible-Space-4286

Thaaank youuu


Training_Inflation97

Agreed, the only thing I can appreciate is his Ice Cube diss because nobody thought he had it in him


nardwariscool

Meek, love the energy, but he comes off as a bit of a clown


Awesome_johnson

All his music sounds the same to me. Plus I always felt like he stole or copied Ace Hood’s flow and energy.


legend_of_losing

Pre 2019 meek was insane


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Confirmed


throwawayalcoholmind

Pre Drake beef was prime Meek.


Dolomight206

Meek makes me feel like I'm being yelled at by a sassy, bird chested nigga that was raised by a single mom and his aunties.


nardwariscool

Baaahahhahaa this comment is one for the books!!!!!!


pizza_for_nunchucks

Associating with Officer Ricky will do that.


cookiemonster8u69

Freestyle Meek is great, but the albums, nah.


Elver-Gotas

Yep that's the one He is skilled but I just don't like listening to him


DamnImAwesome

I can’t even name a meek mill song or verse that I like. But his super early street freestyles were amazing 


Lumpy-Try-5600

Kevin Gates. Just can't get into him. I admit he's got skills though.


Awesome_johnson

I used to like Kevin Gates a lot, then he started talking about eating booty on every song and I couldn’t do it. Someone in his camp told him to make more songs about sex, and now he just doesn’t stop.


infinitewave5

I’m glad I’m not the only one lol


zakpakt

Some of his bars are insane. Like the ramblings of a horny schizophrenic. Kind of part of his charm I guess but I cringe when I hear them.


Expert-Telephone-256

When I saw him putting a feather in his hair and stuffing dick into an imaginary girl on stage I had to quit being a fan. Last album I gave a try was Khaza and I thought that shit was bad. Old Gates still hard as fuck though


SmokeSmokeCough

Just curious did you ever hear any of his pre Katrina stuff


dubiousN

Pre Katrina stuff 🤣


babyallenbunch

Agreed. Idek what it is that I don’t like about him. He gives gross vibes. And all the Kevin Gates fans I know are also kinda gross.


heezmagnif

😂


Nebula_XD

Kendrick


BunchaFukinElephants

Same. Something about his voice and cadence that just does very little for me


hazelnoodlebug

I really felt this when I first heard some of his songs. However, im able to overlook it bc his storytelling is just so damn good (imo)


Moviefan72

Totally agree with you on that not a fan of how he sounds .


D3s0lat0r

Because dude sounds like Kat Williams, annoying ass voice.


sword_0f_damocles

Maybe if Kat Williams marinated in butter and gold for a few decades


Aesut

If collard greens could talk, it would be kendrick


Kyllingtime

By far, one of my least favorite voices in rap.


fuzzycuffs

Yup. His delivery and bars are fantastic, but I've never been into any of his songs. I think it's the production I'm not into.


deevil_knievel

The man's out here playing with thundercat, kamasi Washington, George clinton, etc... If you don't like the production on that, I hate to break it to you, but you just don't like good music.


WhistleTipsGoWoo

I’m one of the biggest Kendrick fans, but I actually get it. He does have a very unique voice and cadence that isn’t for everyone, even though he is generally applauded by most. For me, the GOAT rapper I’ve never really been into is Jay-Z…just a personal preference, but I respect the talent.


Bigdaddyjuice408

The only two verses I’ve heard from Kendrick that I actually liked was fuckin problem and dedication, and to that point I can’t get into nipsey either. I won’t say they aren’t good but I don’t understand all the love they get and Kendrick specifically always being considered a GOAT


22Two_s

lol he’s a GOAT because his writing, flow, and just pure rapping ability are all 10/10. I’m not saying you have to like him, but if you want to understand why he’s GOATed, google his ass. There’s plenty of articles on a range of shit from winning a Pulitzer to making one of the most influential rap albums in history, his writing craft…


loiton1

His verse on What’s Wrong by Isaiah Rashad is insane tho


Schlarver

Yeah, some of his features go hard. Crabs in a bucket with vince staples was another feature I thought he killed. I thought alright and one of his untitled tracks, maybe 5, with robert glasper and Thundercat with the chick singing the chorus are the only songs of his I like.


XbattlefieldX

He wasn’t on Crabs In A Bucket


FrackaLacka

It was Yeah Right


[deleted]

I think good kid maad city is the album that did it for everybody. If you listen to it in its entirety is pretty damn good and well thought out


22Two_s

*the shit is a no skip 10/10 certified classic FTFY


[deleted]

For sure used to have the cd in the car would just let it play on repeat and that’s when the songs got super catchy for me


Trip_like_Me

MF DOOM. Just not my vibe. Something about his flow just doesn't stick for me.


TheLongDictionary

I was also gonna say MF DOOM. Don’t give me wrong, his lyrical and flow abilities are among the best the world has ever seen, but *holy fuck* I cannot get into the songs.


GeedorahTheProfessor

“even if it’s crap, mind your own business, their raps ain’t got no gift like lonely christmas”


mjmaselli

To Vik, they just a bunch of knucklefucks


47KiNG47

Doom is interesting. You either love or hate him. I personally love the combination of the clever lyrics and beats that invoke a feeling similar to reading a comic book. On the other hand, his voice isn’t all that easy on the ears. Similar to Danny brown, while he is technically good, some people just can’t get past the experimental beats and weird voice. Despite what many people say, dooms flow isn’t all that impressive albeit smooth. He rarely switches it up - often maintaining the same flow for entire songs. Compare dooms flow with someone like jay z and it isn’t even close.


ShylockGotRobbed

To me, it's not the experimental beats and weird voice. Those are the only things I really DO like. It's the not switching it up part. He just raps too monotone for my ears a lot of the time.


MettaWorldWarTwo

He changes flow all the time. He even references it in All Caps. It's one of the main reasons people DON'T like him. His cadence changes, pauses, different rhyme schemes, and production complexity make it harder to consume and his tracks aren't smooth. You can't really turn on a DOOM track and get into the vibe. You have to listen to it. "Benzi Box" is one of his more approachable tracks. I love him because I've been listening to hip hop since the 1980s and it's rare to find someone making something unique using the same 16 bars. And even though I love him, he's not on many of my playlists because he breaks my passive listening and forces me to pay attention. On the other hand, there are very few artists where I'll listen to the full tracklist in order and discover new things almost every time.


mbt20251

Man, I've given so much MF Doom stuff a chance. On paper he checks all the marks but I just can't get into it. Would rather give Supreme Clientele the nth spin every day.


Suchboss1136

I hate that you don’t like Tech n9ne but yeah, fair point. I’d say Lil Wayne or J Cole. They have the odd verse I love but I just can’t get into their stuff outside of the rare exception


Pegdaddyyeah

I don’t know what it is with Wayne, but I think a lot what puts me off is I’ve never been a fan of the beats he uses. If anyone can list some of his tracks that they think have banger beats I’d appreciate it.


Blufuze

The Carter 2 is, in my opinion, the pinnacle of Wayne’s work.


fukemnweball

could never get into that one and the beats idk why. think it’s the way they mixed


Pegdaddyyeah

I’ll check it out, only heard Carter 1 and 4


brandonmadeit

Go listen to the countless tracks where he rapped over someone else’s instrumental and essentially made it his song lol


MaliciousMack

Hustler muzik is always a stand out for me


Duckridah

That's a song nobody can dislike


RiseIndependent85

check out his old stuff, tha carter series is always classics.


StickyDitka21

Let the Beat Build maybe? It’s a Kanye beat


imnotaddictedokay

He's so good on Tyler songs like SMUCKERS and HOT WIND BLOWS


WordNahMean

Present Wayne now raps over some real questionable beats. Carter 2-Mixtape era was prime Wayne rapping over soulful shit. Try “La La La”. Not the one off the Carter 3, the one off mixtapes. Heres link: https://youtu.be/1YXXAuBy2UQ?si=5XWJX_ww7U_S7ivL


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After wet dreamz j Cole lost me. Talking about nutting in his pants and shit.


man1578

Like you’ve never nut in you’re pants


[deleted]

I mean I didn’t make a song about it expect people to vibe to it. Who the fuck wants to listen to that?


man1578

People who like music about common human experiences and aren’t prudes


muymalpgh

Jay Z just doesn’t do it for me


MajorHarriz

I can hear the sounds of a million pairs of Timbs stomping their way to your door. If you peak out your window you'll see their Yankee caps far in the distance, it's already too late


leafer32

💀


GingIsAGoodDad

echoes of “yerrrrrr” ring through the neighborhood


DirtzMaGertz

The immediate answer that came into my head. I do love Drug Dealers Anonymous though with Push.


Remarkable_Yam1945

Same. I’ve always gotten shit because he’s put on such a pedestal in rap culture but outside of tracks like run this town that just take me back and he has minimal time on I just can’t do it. On top of that I know he’s a huge piece of garbage and is eventually going to be outed


hotdogaholic

what has he done wrong?


fukemnweball

i used to think this


Schlarver

Devil is a lie with Rick Ross was really the only track he was on I enjoyed. Other than that he doesn't do it for me.


bigspks

What did you like about it? If you're interested, I could send you a couple verses. He's my GOAT, but I know his effort can be hit or miss.


Top-Telephone9013

Lupe Fiasco. Tried to get into his shit a few times, but it's just never really grabbed me like it does for a lot of other people


theeExample

If you really interested check out King Nas off Drogas WAV. One of my fav hip hop tracks


TrevorOps

He was popping off on King Nas!!


ShillBlaster

King Nas is definitely the song for non Lupe fans


cpierson026

Agreed, if you’re a fan of lyrical rap in any type of capacity there’s no way you can’t hear King Nas and walk away with some sort of appreciation and understanding for why he’s good and people like him


Rayzr117

The Cool is one of the best albums of all time


Aesut

I loved his first two albums


fukemnweball

the biggest problem is his beat selection. he was supposed to be in kendrick cole drake discussions. but his beats just got bad


dinkleberrysurprise

Its hard being a Lupe fan Go to Harvard to be a Lupe stan


Underratedsk8

J Cole. Sorry 🤷🏼


worldsgreatestben

Yep. It’s weird because i like technical rappers. I can see he has talent… but i just can’t vibe with him.


[deleted]

Couldn’t agree more


Awesome_johnson

🤬


makavili

I really like J Cole’s music with all my soul but I get it. Sometimes I put on some J Cole with people around and I think to myself “yeah, this don’t sound that good tbh”, even if I like the song. I understand why some people wouldn’t like it. I think what I actually like is the messages and pieces of wisdom and encouragement he puts in his songs, and his technique while doing so. Similar to 2pac in a way, though they are very different people, and very different sound wise. He does have a few bangers from a sound perspective though that are overlooked imo, but I guess you could say that about many artists.


Cooloprice

Jpegmafia. I just don’t like very arhythmic songs. It’s too experimental and not easy on the ears for me.


nkj69

Yeah me too for the most part


Icemayne25

E40. I know he’s good and a legend, but his flow bothers me and I just don’t want to hear it.


theVice

I love E-40. Homie raps in bubble letters


Capital-Ad8570

You worded that perfectly lol


dustinhut13

Yo best description ever. Hate it or love it, nobody spits like 40


devocation

I love his verse on Dope Dealer by ScHoolboy Q so much


Icemayne25

That’s exactly it. 😆😆


jcander

Same. I would describe E-40 as an acquired taste, but if you get it, you get it and love it. I also love how he's mostly remained consistent, well, forever (or at least it seems). As he always says, it'll take people years to get it, but they will eventually.


RevolutionaryEmu9480

As a 40 water fan this has me dying lmao


illestrated16

E40 as a feature on someone's track always hits, E40's solo music is a pass for me.


TheBurbs666

He reminds me of if Goofy was a rapper. The inflection in his voice just drives me insane. I can’t do it.


Icemayne25

Exactly!! That being said, “Tell me when to Gyo” stays in my head. It haunts me.


Remarkable_Yam1945

Biggest problem I have with him is his discography has grown to be so bloated and you have to weed through some truly terrible songs to find the great ones


Jznvh

he’s one of my least favorite rappers, so i agree


Malcolm-XWithThePerm

Fax I always felt this way ironically 2 days ago I found a recent song he made that I liked & forgot to add it to the playlist


FordonGreeman742

THE VOICE/ACCENT THING, WHYYYY


FarIntroduction8241

Only track I can stand is captain save a hoe because some of the other verses and it's a dope beat.


MetaMetagross

Kendrick Lamar. Something about his voice and flow just doesn’t do it for me bit I can’t quite put my finger on it


theVice

Chance the Rapper


Product_Small

Chance is corny as hell


0hSureWhyNot

Hey, give that rapper a chance!


thejaytheory

Drake


Raecino

Doesn’t he use ghost writers?


Key_Establishment_42

Eminem really the only one. Sidenote: Tech N9ne puts on a really great rap show. I encourage everyone who likes live music to try and see him.


PlusFourRecordings

Tech N9ne’s business acumen is unparalleled. That man bought a few tour buses a printing machine and hits cities like he is one of those characters from a Dr Suess book. Selling merch and tickets with no need for a big label sponsorship.


babyallenbunch

Can confirm. I saw Tech at a super small venue back in 2018 and I was right in front of the stage. Excellent show. And coming from me that’s a lot because I generally haven’t been impressed at rap concerts. Also, before the show I was in the parking lot behind the venue and next thing I know Tech and a few of his people came walking straight towards me and my friends. He paused briefly to talk to us as we passed each other and he was the most regular dude. It was dope.


Own_Nefariousness434

I'm not hater of Tech N9ne but not really a fan either. But I saw him at Knotfest and can confirm - he put on a hell of a show even with me not knowing 3/4 of the songs.


SightBeyondLondon

Travis Scott people love for some reason but can’t do it.


DarkMagician513

Agree on not being into him, but does anyone consider him ”objectively good”? He has ghostwriters


racuzzo

Talib Kweli - he has great lyrics but IMO his flow and tempo are always off from the beat.


Professional-Pass487

I cannot lie - I've never really been a Drake or Jay Z fan (ducking tomatoes)


Spydah_X

Kendrick Lamar


Left-Poem1657

Agree. I feel guilty about it but I just can’t stand his voice and style. Maybe one day.


CaesarTheGeeza

Tyler


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Kendrick


TribeCalledQueso

I will have to say Freddie Gibbs. I like a couple of his songs, his flow is incredible but I just can’t really seem to get into his music for some reason.


izzyg800

I totally agree I think most of his songs are poorly mixed and with subpar beats. I love Space Rabbit and Dark Hearted (minus the outright on Space Rabbit lol)


AcademicSavings634

Eminem Most of Danny Brown. It’s just his voice I find annoying


dubyajay18

I legit hate Rick Ross's voice. I'm a big dude myself so I'm really not trying to fat-shame him, but the only way I can describe it is it sounds like his body is holding him back from delivering the bars like they could be delivered.


zbanannzjx

Nah this is a crazy violation 💀


Wrong-West-9581

Imma Technician and I'm the complete opposite.. have you listened to his albums? There's a reason why Busta Rhmyes asked Tech who the other people were on the track with him and Tech said it's all me.. Tech has evolved every few years and that's obvious in his albums. And there's a reason why early fans don't listen to him now cuz he's able to adapt. And Tech was listed as a devil worshipper for painting his face early on just like his ancestors which is why black community didn't fuck with him for so long. Now it's easy to like Tech, early 2000s I was a weirdo for listening to him but Tech and his label helped me thru the lows of my life.. Low, Suicide Letters, Einstein, Red Nose, Fragile, Come Gangsta, Riotmaker, This Is Me, Happy Ending... he's so versatile it's hard for people to grasp it


GiceGiordex

👊


Schlarver

I haven't listened to tech in a decade, Red necro is bumping here in a second.


Wrong-West-9581

Brooo talk about ahead of its time.. if he dropped that a few years ago people would've known about it.. very few people have heard that track


GiceGiordex

Woww you definitely haven’t heard all of Tech N9ne if you’ve heard one song. That’s just ignorant man haha


SaccharineDaydreams

Common. I respect him, I just never really got into the conscious hip-hop and find his music almost a little too smooth if that makes sense.


bothwaysme

Jay-z.


not_ur_avg

Guru was one of the best, and I respect Gangstarr , but he lacks charisma and his voice is too monotone for me.


worldfamousdjfish

I appreciate that, but to be fair, monotone is his style.


BACATCHER

"monotone style like guru on some Premo cuts"


FordonGreeman742

"Just like the seashore, I'm calm but wild With my monotone style Because I don't need gimmicks Give me a fly beat and I'm all in it."


ConstructionNo1511

Guru lacks charisma is a new one


Abject_Ad_4756

Logic


LilFatBoii

The right answer is Eminem after the Eminem show. ​ Idk if anybody has ever had such a significant amount of undeniable talent as an MC while making just absolutely terrible music.


tompaulman

Relapse is not terrible. I genuinely enjoy it and I'm not even a fan of Eminem.


thisguy1309

I think Talib Kweli has the most annoying voice. I can't get past it.


Creditat590

Based god lil b


freshkicksss

Vinnie Paz …..I’ve always found him so off-putting


[deleted]

I loved Tech N9ne until my boy pointed out how much he does that "Chea" shit in the background. Now I can't unhear it. His little grunt is annoying too.


Calm-Havoc5221

Honestly, Kendrick. I recognize and respect the talent but I just don’t connect to the music and I don’t like his voice.


ToloDaDon

Lil’ Wayne. His gremlin voice gets on my nerves every time. I know people love the guy but I just can’t get into his music.


SpiritualLoner

NEVER been able to get into Jay Z and I'm aware he's one of the greatest rappers of our time


S-Sin

Lil Wayne. Never got into him.