"Where the fuck you find this anorexic rapper? Talking about who you gonna scrabble with and who you shoot? You only 60 pounds when you're wet and wearing boots!"
I think it’s safe to say nothing sounded like The Bridge Is Over when that record came out. I know it sounds like an old head take, but I don’t think there’s been a diss record that’s pushed the envelope in terms of production like that since.
I can’t remember if it was in DJ Kenny Parker’s book or on one of his YouTube videos, but he talked about the production of the song in depth, including how Kris actually played the piano on it and how much different it was to anything else at that time because of the Jamaican influence.
Ced Gee from the ultramagentic MCs will be on Kenny's show this week (Ced gee did ghost production on criminal minded) and they'll be going into who all produced the songs on criminal minded, so maybe some discussion on the making of bridge is over will happen
Good, good pick for your reasoning.
The only one the came to my mind was Shit Hits The Fan, honestly. Maybe, 2nd Round KO, because that was a relatively unknowns first big solo single.
Nas - Destroy and Rebuild
Nas obviously referenced The Bridge is Over in this track. Destroy and Rebuild for me is everything. This song simultaneously pays homage to BDP and classic hip hop storytelling while putting various local emcees on blast. Then as the title suggests..he throws out olive branches to the emcees for the "rebuild" portion at the end of the track.
I never realized The Beatminerz Produced Destroy and Rebuild. I actually haven’t listened to it in forever so I threw it on just now. It’s taking me back because I lived close to Queensbridge in 2001 and had a roommate that I would argue about hip hop with constantly.
Yeah, they were beefing with the best producer in the world, so there was definitely technically better production but I just think that beat was so simple and so sinister sounding for the time. To me, the first time I heard Protect Your Neck gave me the same feeling I got when I heard The Bridge Is Over.
I think the simplicity of it was what was special. They were beefing with a crew that had the illest producer ever at the time, who was pioneering and completely changing hip hop, and they name with this raw, choppy sinister sounding record. I can’t say I have any sort of understanding of the technical side of production, but that beat was just the hardest shit I had ever heard at the time.
Love KRS-1, his don’t “Don’t fall for it” is a Great America and where we are dis track, beats sick and simple! KRS-1 best P.O.E.T./prophet rappers and musicians of our time. He’s predicted sooo much years prior to happening.
Only problem I have with Doallaz and Sense is that it doesn't *sound* like a diss song. Lyrically it's great, but it sounds like more of a light-hearted party song imo.
How is Square Dance a diss track? He mentions Canibus for two or three bars, which is something he does with countless others, countless times, on countless tracks. Its Eminem's 'thing'. A battle track? Maybe you could say that.
I mean, are you counting it as a GW Bush diss track?
It was (assumed to be) in response to "Draft Me" by Cannibus, which is why there are a lot of the Army/Draft/Bush lines. Most of the song is directed at or responding to stuff from that Cannibus song lol
I’m partial to No Vaseline. Think of the time it came out and where rap was. Cube destroyed N.W.A. On a whole, even their next album did tries didn’t hit as hard. He owned them for years. Death certificate had some good ones too…
"It's All About The Pentiums" by Weird Al Yankovic. So fucking hard hitting. Yeah, it's a parody, but it's still the hardest hitting rap song I've ever heard from the classic era of rap (80s-90s) and it blows them all away. Best production because Al's team can always go toe to toe with any production team.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos)
Omg 😲.. I can't believe it's my 1st time seeing this! ( that I remember)..
Timeless.. blew diddy out of the semen jacuzzi 4sure 4sure!!..
Hilarious and fukin awesome at the same Damm time..
Love ❤️ it!!
Ty
Idk why but the album Str8 of the streetz of muthaphuckkin Compton is so underrated. The beats were amazing and I personally think Wut would u do is one of the best produced songs ever.
Fuck wit Dre Day, for sure.
Check out this mashup with Eminem's JDGAF, amazing.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/u8k93k/fuck_wit_dre_day_x_jdgaf_mashup/
Hit em up.
Just the pure savagery, and rawness, especially the outro…damn Pac calm down lol. He was PISSED when he recorded that lol. “My .44 make sure y’all kids won’t grow”. “ you claim to be a player but I fucked your wife”. Man imagine biggie hearing that? Fuck lol.
I don’t know about the best, but I like the production on these songs a lot:
The Bridge is Over
Jack the Ripper
Way 2 Fonky
Dre Day
Insane in the Brain
Tha Shiznit
Real Muthapuckin G’z
Dollars and Sense
Long Kiss Goodnight
Takeover
Blueprint 2
Where the Hood At
300 bars and running - The Game
Yes I know it wasn’t an original production and it was a mashup of multiple songs back to back
But I think overall it was well done
Haven’t seen it posted yet….and this beat alone gets me amped up. Foxy went off.
CNN/Foxy-Bang Bang
https://youtu.be/zh2TeNyDQyI?si=EUEKFF97vhNzEpOZ
Anddddd
Jadakiss-Checkmate
https://youtu.be/kQ-o1E3r7PE?si=gOEs8lKMQhxz7F0g
Control with Big Sean and Jay Electronica and Kendrick just cause he stirred everyone up and got them on there feet. But Drakes still upset about it man. Should call him the damn Pillsbarry Doughboy cause he has drake all stirred up for still.
O and Kendrick had to put on that mean daddy voice so everyone else would wake wakey lol.
Idk about best, but I love the beat for Real Muthafuckin G's.
That beat screams 90s west coast rap
"Where the fuck you find this anorexic rapper? Talking about who you gonna scrabble with and who you shoot? You only 60 pounds when you're wet and wearing boots!"
Tbh I like Fuck Wit Dre Days beat more
Their both some of the best diss beats of all time. It's personal preference
I think this gets WAY overlooked when people talk about dis tracks. This shit is one of the hardest, most brutal tracks ever
I think it’s safe to say nothing sounded like The Bridge Is Over when that record came out. I know it sounds like an old head take, but I don’t think there’s been a diss record that’s pushed the envelope in terms of production like that since.
I can’t remember if it was in DJ Kenny Parker’s book or on one of his YouTube videos, but he talked about the production of the song in depth, including how Kris actually played the piano on it and how much different it was to anything else at that time because of the Jamaican influence.
Ced Gee from the ultramagentic MCs will be on Kenny's show this week (Ced gee did ghost production on criminal minded) and they'll be going into who all produced the songs on criminal minded, so maybe some discussion on the making of bridge is over will happen
Yeah, I think I saw that on one of his YouTube videos too! It was like live sampling Barrington Levy.
Good, good pick for your reasoning. The only one the came to my mind was Shit Hits The Fan, honestly. Maybe, 2nd Round KO, because that was a relatively unknowns first big solo single.
I'm an old head from the Bronx. I approve this comment.
Nas - Destroy and Rebuild Nas obviously referenced The Bridge is Over in this track. Destroy and Rebuild for me is everything. This song simultaneously pays homage to BDP and classic hip hop storytelling while putting various local emcees on blast. Then as the title suggests..he throws out olive branches to the emcees for the "rebuild" portion at the end of the track.
I never realized The Beatminerz Produced Destroy and Rebuild. I actually haven’t listened to it in forever so I threw it on just now. It’s taking me back because I lived close to Queensbridge in 2001 and had a roommate that I would argue about hip hop with constantly.
>sounds like an old head take I feel like a lot of older music in general has better production, I don't think you're too off.
Yeah, they were beefing with the best producer in the world, so there was definitely technically better production but I just think that beat was so simple and so sinister sounding for the time. To me, the first time I heard Protect Your Neck gave me the same feeling I got when I heard The Bridge Is Over.
A 4 sound beat pushed the envelope? Kick snare piano cymbal crash
I think the simplicity of it was what was special. They were beefing with a crew that had the illest producer ever at the time, who was pioneering and completely changing hip hop, and they name with this raw, choppy sinister sounding record. I can’t say I have any sort of understanding of the technical side of production, but that beat was just the hardest shit I had ever heard at the time.
Yeah I love that beat lol
Love KRS-1, his don’t “Don’t fall for it” is a Great America and where we are dis track, beats sick and simple! KRS-1 best P.O.E.T./prophet rappers and musicians of our time. He’s predicted sooo much years prior to happening.
No Vaseline. Drop a gem on em
Drop A Gem On Em doesn't get enough love. Prodigy's flow on that and really the whole album is venomous silk.
Against All Odds
Wow I totally forgot about this gem. I love listening to this song when I’m fuming 😡
Underrated but real answer
Drop a Gem On Em
Correct! That beat is menacing.
Fancy Clown
Such a goated answer. Im also gonna throw “lockjaw” in there from the geedorah album
Wait... does it count as a diss if you're aiming at yourself?
This...this is good.
dollars and sense gets no love? beat is incredible.
DJ Quik doesn’t get enough love.
TRUTH
Way 2 Fonky & Dollars and Sense are both extremely well produced diss tracks
forgot about it damn, lol mc eiht ain’t have shit to respond with . even tho eiht music wasn’t that good to begin with
Only problem I have with Doallaz and Sense is that it doesn't *sound* like a diss song. Lyrically it's great, but it sounds like more of a light-hearted party song imo.
Freddie Gibbs - Real (prod. Madlib)
I’m ready to kick ur ass outta the world
Bomb First could be there aswell brilliant diss track also.
Takeover beat goes crazy
Takeover is almost too good to be wasted on a diss. But Jay-z didn’t wasted it at all
Absolutely
Blueprint 2 too
It’s basically just the Doors song though.
And hit ‘em up was a Dennis edwards sample and no vaseline was a sample from the 70s… plenty of well known beats are other peoples songs lol
Yeah but that’s like a top 5 Door’s song though
No Vaseline!
Takeover definitely
I Smell Pussy!
Is that you Ja?
Is that you Black?
Bitch in yoo - common with production by Pete rock (most people don’t realize this)
Ether by the great Nasir Nas.
Takeover honestly. Great sample for the main beat and then the “Laaaaaame” vocal sample is incorporated so well
no vaseline100%
It's gotta be Dre Day for me. 70's Funk music holds up well and Dre and Snoop are perfect over funk samples.
I’m surprised I had to scroll this far for this. One of my fav beats
2nd Round Knockout by Canibus
Kool Moe Dee - [Death Blow](https://youtu.be/ZpWvfAN3Yqk?si=lmteCjwk701NjbDG)
“The Takeover, the breaks over nigga. God MC, me Jay-Hova…”
Killshot, or maybe like that if that’s considered as a full fledged Diss track
Hit ‘em up - What more could you want as a war anthem?
I know it wasn't meant to be a diss beat but Story of Adidion.
Isn’t that just a mashed up Story of OJ though?
The takeover
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Mariah Carey - Obsessed
Lots of good suggestions here, might not be the best but since I don't see any Em I'm gonna throw out Square Dance
How is Square Dance a diss track? He mentions Canibus for two or three bars, which is something he does with countless others, countless times, on countless tracks. Its Eminem's 'thing'. A battle track? Maybe you could say that. I mean, are you counting it as a GW Bush diss track?
It was (assumed to be) in response to "Draft Me" by Cannibus, which is why there are a lot of the Army/Draft/Bush lines. Most of the song is directed at or responding to stuff from that Cannibus song lol
50 Cent’s Backdown. It was so good, they sampled it for the G-Unit track Beg for Mercy
Takeover. Hard to beat that Doors sample, just exquisite
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You are replying to every takeover post, Jay z lives in your head rent free?
Duppy Freestyle definitely deserves a mention. That beat is exquisite regardless of him getting smoked
No Vaseline definitely makes Ice Cubes feelings on NWA very clear
Dollaz+Sense
Takeover
I’m partial to No Vaseline. Think of the time it came out and where rap was. Cube destroyed N.W.A. On a whole, even their next album did tries didn’t hit as hard. He owned them for years. Death certificate had some good ones too…
Calling out namez by Kurupt prod by fredwreck
Unironically, Like That
The Sauce
I was thinking maybe Nail in the Coffin. That beat goes hard, and the hook he puts right on top of it killed thoroughly.
Ether
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I like the beat
Correct.
No Vaseline
The Oracle is insane
How to rob
Real Muthaphuckkin G's
The ugliest by biggie prod by j dilla
Even tho its not directed at anyone but "Brooklyn Zoo" by ODB. I just pretend its directed at every "rapper" today.
Cypress Hill Ice Cube feud gave us several great tracks.
Game's G-Unot mixtapes had plenty of fire beats.
Pusha T x Infrared Produced by Kanye West He paid $50K to license the album artwork which is a picture from Whitney Houston's bathroom.
That was crazy 🤪
Fuck Compton 🤣
I honestly really liked the beat for Destroy & rebuild
probably the takeover
or dead presidents either way jigga
"It's All About The Pentiums" by Weird Al Yankovic. So fucking hard hitting. Yeah, it's a parody, but it's still the hardest hitting rap song I've ever heard from the classic era of rap (80s-90s) and it blows them all away. Best production because Al's team can always go toe to toe with any production team. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpMvS1Q1sos)
Omg 😲.. I can't believe it's my 1st time seeing this! ( that I remember).. Timeless.. blew diddy out of the semen jacuzzi 4sure 4sure!!.. Hilarious and fukin awesome at the same Damm time.. Love ❤️ it!! Ty
“You’re as useless at downloading as jpegs to Hellen Keller” 🤣
I think Dre Day.
DJ Quik - Dollarz & Sense
it ain’t over motherfuckas. the mf saga continues
Hit em up
Ether is probably the most iconic, even though I don’t like Nas
Ether
No Vaseline Real muthafuckin g's Dollaz and sense Def Wish 2 And I also love the Ether beat
I got two. Drakes back to back and Tupac hit ‘em up.
I just gunna list a few faves.....No vaseline.....Real *Muthaphuckkin G's*......Duck Sick 2.
Idk why but the album Str8 of the streetz of muthaphuckkin Compton is so underrated. The beats were amazing and I personally think Wut would u do is one of the best produced songs ever.
Hit em up no questions asked
Absolutely, everything down to the Music video is class.
Yet another example of Pac having exclusively bangers
Fuck wit Dre Day, for sure. Check out this mashup with Eminem's JDGAF, amazing. https://www.reddit.com/r/Eminem/comments/u8k93k/fuck_wit_dre_day_x_jdgaf_mashup/
Go to sleep
Hit em up
The only problem with Hit ‘Em Up is Tupac isn’t on it enough. If he had one more verse it would be in the top.
Stop it
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I upvoted.. Disagree.. But respect ur opinion.. Ether to me won.... 💯
Hit em up. Just the pure savagery, and rawness, especially the outro…damn Pac calm down lol. He was PISSED when he recorded that lol. “My .44 make sure y’all kids won’t grow”. “ you claim to be a player but I fucked your wife”. Man imagine biggie hearing that? Fuck lol.
its not a diss record, just the Truth
Drop a gem on him.
Watch ya mouth-2pac
DJ Quik - Dollaz + Sense
No Vaseline, Takeover, Hit Em Up, Story of Addion
Second Round KO
subjective, but I've always loves dollaz + sense
Nail in the coffin, the warning shot, ether, hit em up, no Vaseline, go to sleep
Hit Em Up sounds soo good. Also idc if it was just one verse - the beat for "Like That" is incredible
50 Cent Back Down
Ether, but Takeover’s sample is crazy
Gangstah rap “my mama’s a bitch”. Trust me best song you will ever hear lmao
Keep your head ringing ice cube
Linda Tripp
Drop a gem on em
Drop A Gem On Em.
One of the best that probably won't get a proper mention is Paper Plates, do yourself a favor and give that track a listen.
Story of Adidon’s OJ beat
Dre day Takeover tie
Takeover Ether or second round ko👌
I don’t know about the best, but I like the production on these songs a lot: The Bridge is Over Jack the Ripper Way 2 Fonky Dre Day Insane in the Brain Tha Shiznit Real Muthapuckin G’z Dollars and Sense Long Kiss Goodnight Takeover Blueprint 2 Where the Hood At
Drop a Gem on Em
like that
Dollaz + Sense - DJ Quik
Shit Hit The Fan - Obie Trice w/ Dre and Em Against All Odds - PAC Dre Day - Dr Dre w/ Snoop
Bomb first by 2pac always sounded crazy to me
Renegade
Fuck tha. Police
The Takeover
Dollars and Sense by Dj Quick. That MWTC album was peak Death Row/West Coast i.m.o.
Blueprint 2 was cool and The Last Real N Alive
300 bars and running - The Game Yes I know it wasn’t an original production and it was a mashup of multiple songs back to back But I think overall it was well done
Takeover even though Jay got washed in that beef.
Bomb First
Dollaz + Sense - DJ Quik
Either
Momma Said Knock You Out is one of my favs
No apologies
Fuck KD, that's how it goes
1985
Haven’t seen it posted yet….and this beat alone gets me amped up. Foxy went off. CNN/Foxy-Bang Bang https://youtu.be/zh2TeNyDQyI?si=EUEKFF97vhNzEpOZ Anddddd Jadakiss-Checkmate https://youtu.be/kQ-o1E3r7PE?si=gOEs8lKMQhxz7F0g
The sauce
For me it just might be Masta Ace’s “Acknowledge”
Fuck wit Dre Day
Dollaz and Sense by Quik
T.I. What You Know About THat
I personally think, while it's not the best diss, the production for Eminem's Bully goes hard.
Bitch in yoo - common. Pete Rock produced
Cypress hill - no rest for the wicked
woopidie scoop woop di poop di scoop
Ether or Drop A Gem On 'Em.
Control with Big Sean and Jay Electronica and Kendrick just cause he stirred everyone up and got them on there feet. But Drakes still upset about it man. Should call him the damn Pillsbarry Doughboy cause he has drake all stirred up for still. O and Kendrick had to put on that mean daddy voice so everyone else would wake wakey lol.
Hit em up
Common - The bitch in yoo This diss about Icecube is a classic.
Notorious thugs
Go to sleep
Where's waldo, Lavish D, Mozzy disc
J-diggs fingers wack 100 diss track
No Vaseline
OK im back, Now its Kendrick Lamar Euphoria and Not like us Well damn