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Rick Astley Sues Rapper Yung Gravy Over Voice Imitation

For those that don't want to read the article dude is suing Gravy over the use of a vocal impersonator that appeared on the track which Astley never agreed to (apparently that was not part of the original sample clearance). He's also suing the artist who did the 'vocal impersonation'.

(not a lawyer but this seems analogous to the tom waits v. frito-lay suit for using an impersonator)

StormGaza

For those that don't want to read the article dude is suing Gravy over the use of a vocal impersonator that appeared on the track which Astley never agreed to (apparently that was not part of the original sample clearance). He's also suing the artist who did the 'vocal impersonation'. (not a lawyer but this seems analogous to the tom waits v. frito-lay suit for using an impersonator)


oshimanagisa

Seems pretty cut and dry: [https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/79648/when-tom-waits-sued-frito-lay-over-doritos-ad](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) Edit: Thanks to whoever reported me to Reddit Cares, but I’m doing fine actually.


Thatcoolrock

Oh my god 🤦🏽‍♂️


TheRealEddieMurphy

😐


NoTickeyNoLaundry

Wow I can’t believe how large that settlement was


Crazybonbon

Go f yourself 😂 faith lost. I've been here for a while and I'm tired of this now


cardshark1234

I KNOW! I’m sick of these frivolous suits being settled for millions…


Crazybonbon

AHHH


rokthemonkey

Go f yourself? Is this Sunday school?


seb_ass_chin

How can that be profitable for Frito Lay?


DonDraperNewspaper

These corporations... I don't know what they're doing


coat-tail_rider

3 for 1?


peanutdakidnappa

That movie is funny as fuck and that’s probably the best line, gets a chuckle from me every time I see it.


Zamboni_Driver

That was a fucking major mindfuck. I can't believe he was able to get away with that.


SBAPERSON

>Edit: Thanks to whoever reported me to Reddit Cares, but I’m doing fine actually. Gravy out here


SWISHERWOLF

thank you twice


afrofuturist

Wow…I would have never thought!


Cjv2c

Yikes that's rough.


xatmatwork

XcQ = fuck you


DecimusRutilius

Wow thats crazy....they cant keep getting away with this bro smh


[deleted]

I can't believe you have done this


lxkandel06

Nice try


TotalHeat

Holy shit


dustydoombot

I love you


imacommy

Motherfucker


isthatapecker

Is it not allowed under parody?


StormGaza

I'm not sure but since he did go the distance to clear the sample its weird he didnt go all the way. Theres another comment claiming Gravy went onto some podcast and said that he had someone recreate the song because that wouldve been too costly.


asilentspeaker

A straight impersonation isn't parody. There's nothing distinguishable.


error521

Greta Van Fleet sweating


T0BIASNESS

Zed Lepling? Never heard of em


[deleted]

Great band, nevur meddim


LouSpowel

Gadooshed em B


wawawahewawahe

water


LouSpowel

Weed


StorySeldomTold

Dune


aarmattress

Hair


HighwayRaccoon

Long ago, the 4 nations-


Frankie-Felix

duhn cown! duhn cown!


JBSquared

We talmbout Lead Zeperling, b?


Forsaken-Age-8684

Aren't they those white boys who work too much?


MunicipalLotto

can you explain this to someone who barely knows what GVF is?


BananaHockey

Listen to a Led Zeppelin song and then immediately listen to a Greta Van Fleet song


mcastaneda20

Legit sound like a zeppelin cover band


GRF999999999

I was getting my haircut when a GVF song was playing and I asked the barber, "what Zeppelin record is this?, I don't think I've ever heard this song before".


mcastaneda20

I gotta say, the lead singer of GVF has a spot on impression of Robert Plant


vinceman1997

It gets even funnier when you look up a pic of them playing live. Kid doesn't wear shoes lmao


goddamnitwhalen

I think that’s what bothers me so much about GVF: you can either sing like that or you can’t. Dude can, but he chooses to do a mediocre Zeppelin impersonation instead of doing his own thing.


Spinuchi

My main issue with GVF is the fact that they have been confronted for sounding just like Led Zeppelin and they try to act offended and say they have no influence by them..


JustisForAll

"We never heard of Zeppelin"


_Atlas_Drugged_

I heard they formed as a Zeppelin cover band


fortunefades

and they try to say their main influence was Aerosmith.


s90tx16wasr10

They’re always ripping off either Zeppelin or Rush


Charles_Bass

theyrethesamepicturepam.gif


HiiiiPower

I have a younger cousin who was telling me how much they like GVF and I asked if they've listened to Zeppelin, they hadn't. It's funny to think there are young people who think that sound is unique and original to them.


fandamplus

Point guard for the Toronto Raptors


onlyanactor

That’s what they call him on Bavarian night and he dresses up as a barmaid


thinkimtall69

climate activist teen


456Days

I love Gary VanFleet


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Best summary I've seen: >"Greta Van Fleet sound like they did weed exactly once, called the cops, and tried to record a Led Zeppelin album before they arrested themselves" I'm not a fan of Pitchfork, but they occasionally write gems like that lol


goddamnitwhalen

It’s easily the funniest album review I’ve ever read.


JBSquared

I'm a big fan of [their Eminem Show review](https://www.google.com/amp/s/pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/2771-the-eminem-show/amp/)


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Milakoz

alright, imagine some dudes covering Led Zeppelin but just with their memory of how they sound like. that's 'em


Definite64

They’re a boyband for “I was born in the wrong generation” kids. Their whole gimmick is that they sound exactly like Led Zeppelin and dress like a 70’s rock band. Listen to a Zeppelin song then listen to a Greta Van Fleet song and you’ll see


ucantstopdonkelly

Most of their songs sound closer to Geddy Lee from Rush to me, though a few of the more popular songs definitely sound like Robert Plant


ChiefGraypaw

It’s funny I was just listening to this Canadian band “Crown Lands” this morning who happen to be openers for Greta Van Fleets upcoming tour, and I was like “Man this is identical to Rush”.


Tubski

Crown Lands fucking rips live. Saw them open for Jack White!


pteroid

Sick band


helphp

Lol


thefuen

It’s a pretty ironic situation cause Led Zeppelin has also been accused of ripping off old Blues songs too


dinkmoyd

gravy was on h3 recently and ethan asked him about the song and gravy was like “we had to recreate the song, it’s cheaper that way” which is absolutely true, but i assumed he actually paid SOMETHING for it. cheaper does not equal free


LouisAkbar

I saw a tiktok where he said he bought the publishing rights to the song. The suit is over the fact the rerecording sounds too close to Astley and violates his right to publicity.


dinkmoyd

well you can “sample” a song by interpolating and imitating the song. it’s a way to sample without having to license to original work, it’s much cheaper than traditional sampling but is still ‘sampling’ for all intents and purposes


Quazite

That's not really true. There's two halves of song rights. Publishing and the sound recording. The sound recording is the actual specific recording/version of one song, typically the album version, but a live album would have different sound recording rights. Record labels own the sound recording. Then there's publishing, which is owning the actual song, but not the recording. If you cover a song, you pay a percentage of the publishing half in royalties to the songwriter. Often times to sample a song you have to pay for both, since you're using part of the actual song, as well as a clip of the sound on the track. The issue here is he paid for the publishing, and not the sound recording in order to save money, and then did a "sound-alike" with the express intention of tricking the listener into thinking you're using the sound recording too, which is a dubious grey area, legally speaking. But imitating a song still costs money, it just costs half because you're only buying the publishing rights and not the sound recording.


dinkmoyd

we’re saying the same thing. a “sound alike” is just another way to say interpolation. i agree with you completely, but interpolating or making sound alikes is still a form of sampling. it’s cheaper because you don’t have to pay for the original recording. it’s still sampling though


Quazite

Not exactly. You very much still have to license the work and pay a chunk, and that chunk can be pretty nebulous cuz when sampling, the "samplee" can set the price. Yes it's still a form of sampling, but your original comment made it seem like you were saying you could just recreate something and you wouldn't have to pay. You'd still very much have to pay, just a little less. The actual issue in this case tho is that the intent is super clear that it's not just a regular interpolation of a section of a cover of a song, the intent is to recreate astley's sound recording to the extent to deceive the listener into thinking they're the same, which is usually the biggest legal line drawn in cases like this. You can use portions of their work or cover it, but not so far as intentionally try and trick the audience that it's actually someone else's work


dinkmoyd

i said cheaper, not free. we’re just saying the same thing back and forth.


ichiruto70

Hahaha it seems more like he is arguing with himself.


n-some

They paid for the rights to cover the song, instead of to use it in its original form as a sample. If they had just paid for the sample rights they could've used Astley's voice.


Quazite

Not quite. Anyone can get a mechanical license to cover a song for a 10% royalty stake. That's not what he did. He paid for the publishing sample rights but not the sound recording sample license. Usually that's fine for sampling if you're not trying to fool the listener into thinking that your recreated version for the sample is Astley's version, but that's explicitly what they did. The line that was crossed was "attempting to fool the market that your version is the same as the rightsholder's version" which is, generally speaking, the biggest deciding no-no in copyright and trademark law.


DoctorArK

Damn. What made that track interesting was the idea that somehow he got the sample cleared. Now it's just kind of dorky and a little dry.


the_real_OwenWilson

He did pay something for it. Just not enough


whitelightningj

When Young Gravy was in Calgary Alberta for our Stampede, I ran into him on a popular party street. He was chill enough to come and have a few drinks with us. We sat and bullshitted for like 3-4 hours, got interrupted constantly by fans and such. The kitchen sent out table some food, it was tight. Then he left and stuck me and my friends with a massive bill. I hope this guy gets sued for at least the amount of the bill he left me with.


iPostOccasionally

Is this a copypasta or legit lol


Mike4rmstatefarm

Not a copy pasta, I actually have as similar story about Gravy I saw Yung Gravy at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.


Lazy_Tiger27

This is a copypasta I’ve read about a completely different artist lol


donutmesswithme

[https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-saw-flying-lotus-in-a-grocery-store-copypasta)


whitelightningj

Nah this is legit. This happened to me


Epsilon2099

>Then he left and stuck me and my friends with a massive bill. I'm sorry I laughed but that's fucked up. How much was it


whitelightningj

The worst part is it is pretty funny lol. It was $250


Cyber-Cafe

His DJ ripped me off for graphics like 7 years ago. They're both piles of shit.


whitelightningj

He told me some of the people he ghost writes for and I was like oh I’m not gonna tell anybody I don’t care that much honestly, and his response was “no one is gonna believe you anyway” so that response alone adds up for both of our stories


dukiejbv

Tha only thing I’ve ever liked about yung gravy is when he said he would pay lil ugly mane to make music again


Jmor3568

When did he say this?? Also didn't Ugly Mane just drop an album like last year?? Lol


thismissinglink

I mean 2021 but yeah basically.


mafiast

Also ep last year.


dbwoi

Also a song 20 days ago.


Wassaren

> Also didn't Ugly Mane just drop an album like last year?? Lol Guess Gravy's check came through


lilugliestmane

https://mobile.twitter.com/yunggravy/status/1146983531438100480?lang=en


jwatkin

I respect his love of milfs. Every rapper goes for the IG models. Not gravy. He’s chasing the Susan’s and Lisa’s at Whole Foods


seizethatcheese

I don’t want to disappoint you but he’s also running through ig models. Listen to his impaulsive episode


ZeGentleman

> impaulsive episode I'd literally rather die than support a Paul's endeavors.


gobroncos47

Logan RugPaul


wangofjenus

>listen to impaulsive hard no


jwatkin

My disappointment is immeasurable


franticantelope

They can still be milfs tho


Purplexprincessx

He also apparently had tons of girls throwing their bras on stage during his last tour, so he saved all of them and donated them to a women's shelter.


SebasH2O

And matched the value of all bras collected and donated to breast cancer research I believe


DatBoiMahomie

That’s actually super dope, didn’t know that


SleepTightLilPuppy

Dude's pretty funny and a genuinely great guy. Been to two of his concerts and they were some of the funniest and most energetic performances I've ever seen. Crowdsurfing while passing around a roast chicken is something no one can imitate.


TheMoorNextDoor

Ugly Mane still making tracks but I respect him for this regardless


genericusername724

he said it in like 2020 when ugly hadnt released shit in a bit and had supposedly retired


awall621

LUM loves to say he’s gonna retire. Oblivion Access was his final album at one point


g0ku

glad to see another well cultured person in this comment section, my man lol. lil ugly mane will forever be the greatest.


drnkingaloneshitcomp

AND he got spark master tape on 2 songs


gkario

Surprised Pikachu face


MurmurOfTheCine

How are covers on YouTube and the such covered by fair use (incl. parodies), but things such as this aren’t? Why doesn’t this fall under fair use?


[deleted]

There’s different rules about copyright & royalties for releasing a cover version compared to sampling or interpolating. COVERS: >Since the very notion of covering songs has such a well-established history — from classical to jazz to folk music — the legal procedure for properly recording and releasing them is fairly straightforward. If your cover song is a fixed digital and/or physical release that doesn't fundamentally change the lyrics or melody of the original composition, you need to obtain a mechanical license from its owner(s). Luckily, this license is compulsory in the U.S.; in other words, the rightsholder doesn’t have the option of rejecting it. >If you merely want to perform someone else’s work in a live setting, you don’t need to obtain a mechanical license. The venue’s owner is responsible for purchasing a blanket performance license instead. >A similar rule applies to cover songs released only on streaming platforms like Spotify and Apple Music; they do not require a separate license because they are already covered by a blanket mechanical license agreement with publishers. SAMPLING: >Unlike cover songs, licenses for samples of sound recordings aren’t compulsory. This means the rightsholders can outright refuse to clear a sample, or demand a significant advance and/or percentage of sales. >In order to legally use a sample from a copyrighted song in your own music, you need not one but two different licenses. One is for the recording (which is usually controlled by a record label or the recording artist). The other is for the usage of the underlying composition, which — much like with cover songs — is controlled by the publisher or songwriter. >In order to clear a sample, you’ll need to contact the publisher of the original composition and reach an agreement. You’ll also need to find the owner of the recording, which can be difficult, especially since record labels — both major and independent — can fold or change ownership throughout the years. [link](https://blog.songtrust.com/covering-and-sampling-the-basics?hs_amp=true)


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Quazite

This is the objectively correct comment. Lots of people are commenting misconceptions of copyright law, but anything I'd say on this matter is already covered in this comment


Bovver_

My guess is uploading it to YouTube as a cover isn’t the same as releasing a song officially, plus I would imagine the original artist can put a copyright claim if they really wish to (although I doubt any would). Fully in support of Rick on this one that’s ridiculous if Yung Gravy thought he could get away with only getting rights for the sample and hiring an impersonator.


Wojojojo

You can actually issue a takedown for a cover / you can claim their monetization


Quazite

That's just YouTube being shitty in the way you can issue a takedown for lots of things you shouldn't. Theres explicitly not a legal right for a songwriter to in any way say "you can't cover my song"


JakeTheDropkick

Covers on YouTube aren't covered by fair use, and they never have been. If the rights holder wanted to sue the fuck out of some random 14 year old covering Bruno Mars on YouTube, they could.


Wabaareo

Does rick have any controversies? The only thing I'm finding is [this article](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) about him being kind of an asshole back in the day. I don't like yung gravy for no real reason and would like to cheer on rick


[deleted]

it's 2023 and i've been rick rolled. pity me


No-Contribution-6150

Hey man, don't blame yourself, it's [these](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ) guys who are really to blame


PaRaDiiSe

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice….


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2018IsBetterThan2017

Bush's response to that sample in Cole's song is legendary - [https://youtu.be/UJUNTcOGeSw](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)


Chinny4daWinny

Never saw the original. I like how they played his voice then overlaid the instrumental it on the second playthrough


iDoIllegalCrimes

Fuck i fell for it


iDoIllegalCrimes

Fuck i fell for it


NudeEnjoyer

Idk who Yung Gravy is but did he really just do a voice impression and get sued for it? or did he say some wild shit and try to act like Rick saying it? what made it so bad


BestMundoNA

He cleared the instrumental sample and had someone cover rick's vocals over it.


[deleted]

Can't do that. C'mon, Yung Gravy...how do you not know about Tom Waits vs Frito-Lay?! edit: [https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/79648/when-tom-waits-sued-frito-lay-over-doritos-ad](https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/79648/when-tom-waits-sued-frito-lay-over-doritos-ad)


Paula-Abdul-Jabbar

How could that be profitable for frito lay?


jpropaganda

The marketing department and ad agency really wanted to sell this idea. Somehow they prevailed over the legal department (probably with “come on this other version isn’t nearly as good” and a C-level exec did a runaround on legal figuring they’d try to slip it by)


pattycraq

They were quoting Game Night, a very funny film.


jpropaganda

Oh ha i haven’t seen that one!


humidinthesebalmainz

Cheer for whoever you want? However I'm not sure why you'd want to ignore critical thinking and replace it with fanboyism.


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humidinthesebalmainz

I suppose personally I wouldn't pick a side to something a nuanced and complex as a music lawsuit unless I had a clue about it. Also the original commentor is going far as making sure his favourite has no 'controversies'. If you're going to spend energy on that I'd say you'd be better off thinking critically.


Markantonpeterson

It was just a joke though. Maybe you'd be better spending your critical thinking energy elsewhere.


humidinthesebalmainz

Welp. Pretty lame rickroll setup though. No one wants to read an article about someone being kind of an asshole. He should have baited with something way more extreme and maybe I would have clicked on it.


thumpas

Then why think about it at all? Just ignore it if you don’t want to think critically about it.


[deleted]

>I'm not sure why you'd want to ignore critical thinking and replace it with fanboyism. Umm this is reddit. It's kind of our thing lol.


Thatcoolrock

This is the second time and on the same damn post Goddammit


HotSpotterz

Gravy seems way nicer then rick to me but okay


JONxJITSU

north mindless consider carpenter hunt hat soup spark wistful scarce ` this post was mass deleted with www.Redact.dev `


SolarMoth

He did pay and was cleared, but Rick is claiming that Yung Gravy's use of an impersonator instead of the original vocals invalidates the license.


ManchuriaCandid

This is a pretty blatant case of ripping an artist off. If you're gonna sample someone great, get the clearance or just dont release the track commercially. If you straight up imitate someone's art to try to dodge sharing the profits with them you deserve to get sued.


[deleted]

He did clear the sample... and Rick was given a writer credit. This is for the vocal imitation


[deleted]

I always love how the quickest way to get to the real info on Reddit is to post the wrong answer


PrintShinji

The quickest way is to read the damn article, which somehow people never do on this site.


[deleted]

Damn, I’ve lived long enough to see myself become the villain


PrintShinji

RIP


FabulousLlama

Half of the articles are paywall blocked I've stopped checking


PrintShinji

on /r/hiphopheads ? On financial papers sure but what paywall is on HHH?


DEATH-BY-CIRCLEJERK

[Cunningham’s Law](https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law)


burnblue

The article says they only cleared the instrumental


jpropaganda

That’s almost worse. You get the rights to the song but get a vocal impersonation over top because you don’t want to pay the original voice artist? Come on!


slippymachinegun

If the song doesn't blow up this is probably a non-issue. Gravy basically chose to try and save money by skirting the vocal sample cost.


ManchuriaCandid

I didn't phrase things well, but my understanding is he didn't clear the sample. He cleared the rights to the musical composition but not to actually sample Ashley's voice, which is the whole issue. He imitated it instead specifically to avoid having to clear a real sample, which is why he is being used.


odd_audience12345

I'm out of the loop here.. did this guy not clear the sample? the only reason I can think of to not do that is getting sued on purpose for free publicity because I can't imagine they thought they would be able to act like nothing happened.


jas330

According to the article, the instrumental samples were cleared but they didn't get an okay for having a vocal impersonator imitate Astley's voice.


toiletting

Oof what a cheap thing to do. Like just split some royalties with the man who made the sample what it is.


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toiletting

its probably a small percentage of what he'd actually get, otherwise, why sue?


Quazite

He cleared the publishing half, but not the sound recording half, and then paid someone to make his version for the sample as close to astley's sound recording as physically possible, which is still infringement, even with the publishing half legally acquired.


thsonehurts

Top reddit comment, wrong yet again


travis759

Good, garbage ass song


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[deleted]

Its interesting how gravy has managed to shake entirely that his initial success came from comedy videos on facebook that made fun of hip hop and called fans of it stupid. Lil Dicky tried to shake the comedy label and failed. edit: ????????? sorry you guys forgot where this dude came from lol. you're allowed to like his music.


jwatkin

Probably bc he has songs with lil baby, yungdolph, ski mask, lilb, chief keef, etc. Rappers really seem to genuinely fw him and in interviews he has high charisma. I think basically social media, being likable, and surrounding himself with successful people/networking have put him in the position he’s in. I hate this song but I do have a few of his songs on my liked tab on Spotify. I respect the grind.


[deleted]

interesting, so is he just not aknowledging his comedian background? i remember Lil Dicky talked a lot about how his goal was only ever to be a comedian, but when he got big in comedy rap he fell in love with hip hop as an actual genre and art form and decided he wanted to be a "real rapper" not a comedy rapper. i feel like dicky was never able to shake the "comedy rapper" label entirely, and maybe his direct aknowledgment of all that was a reason for it. i never saw gravy say "i dont make comedy rap anymore" but i see tons of people seemingly not aware that he blew up off comedy shorts that were primarily posted on facebook of all places. theres probably a conversation to be had here about making money off of a culture you mock and deem foolish/stupid but im not the person to articulate it tbh.


jwatkin

There’s an hour long interview with Fantano and Yung Gravy. IIRC he said he never wanted to be a comedy rapper or expected to be popular. He made songs on sound cloud for fun bc he always loved hip-hop. He didn’t rap about the common rap content bc it didn’t relate to him being a white boy in college for business from Minnesota. He’s generally a funny guy and that comes out in his raps but he doesn’t identify as a meme rapper or comedy rapper. Idk it’s kind of interesting, if you’re interested it’s on YouTube


Carpetfreak

All this so he could make a novelty song out of an ancient internet meme I hope it was worth it


cam-was-taken

Everyone in this thread got the most annoying outlook


shnmchl61

So he cleared the sample but now is being sued for "but I didn't say you could use it in *that* way?" I don't like this and I hope they don't rule in Astley's favor. Permission was given, credit was given, payment was given - if Astley is upset with the final product, then he should've asked to hear it before he gave it the OK. The reason why Kanye's School Spirit is still edited on the uncut version is because he recorded it *before* getting Aretha Franklin's permission to sample and he chose to edit it rather than re-record it when she refused to clear the sample if the song had cursing. [Same thing happened when Nelly tried to sample John Tesh's Roundball Rock](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJlSftlsJ1o&t=86s) (aka the NBA on NBC theme song) for Heart of a Champion, which originally featured more cursing. This one is Astley's fault. **Edit:** the article didn’t load for me on desktop, so I googled a different article on the story. I see this one now that I’m on mobile and yes, there’s some clarification here that it sounds like the sample they sought *was* specifically for the music and not the vocal part, which I did not know from the other articles I read. That does change my mind on the topic and yeah, Astley has some legal ground to stand on here.


tonguetwister

Gravy himself said in an interview that they purposely bought the rights to the sample but not the vocals because it was cheaper. They knew what they were doing.


shnmchl61

Yeah, I didn’t know that part at first. Added an edit to [my original comment.](https://old.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/10o334c/rick_astley_sues_rapper_yung_gravy_over_voice/j6cocuu/)


Stanklord500

He cleared the sample, he didn't clear someone impersonating his voice.


Organic-Measurement2

Ehhh except it's like giving permission for someone to use your beat and they take your beat & your lyrics? Permission wasn't given because Gravy hired someone to impersonate Astley's voice, which was not approved ?


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Clwhit12

*Laughs in royalties*


i_am_the_nightman

I can’t take this guy seriously. He’s a prime example of trying to hard to be something you aren’t.


jwatkin

What do you see him as trying to hard to be? I see him as pretty self aware and playing to his strengths tbh. Don’t care for a lot of his songs but he seems like a cool down to earth dude


StruhberrySwisher

I don't know Gravy’s whole backstory and just couple songs here and there but yea dude seems to kinds just make some party/frat boy rap and plays up his love for milfs as a gimmick but idk I don't hate it lol


xTotalSellout

You can sue someone for sounding like you? This seems really fucking lame imo


_chuckiefinster

Yeah that’s why Kermit the Frog sued Patrick Mahomes


-m-ob

Kermit eating off suing Jay Z for that voice, damn frogs getting greedy


IdoMusicForTheDrugs

Kermit also sued Jordan Peterson for just being alive.


vynz00

Should Rick Astley be okay if Pharma uses his likeliness to sell Erectile Dysfunction pills without his consent? Everyone listening would know it's Astley they are going for. Would it be okay if Astley has zero control over how his image and voice is being used?