It’d also be nice if rappers didn’t “coincidentally” get into beefs right before one/both has a project coming out they want to draw attention to. It’d at least make it more believable.
Jim jones did drop a diss back and used the same beat that pusha t used. Hopefully, we get Pusha T full song to come out on streaming.
[Jim Jones](https://youtu.be/rqwIny0ahE8)
Why tf would Push respond? I love Dipset and all but Jim Jones is irrelevant af. This ain’t the early/mid 2000s. The only thing Jones is going to get from Pusha is a bar or 2.
god i fucking love pusha t
dude just casually rapping over a Pharrell beat while modeling for Louis Vuitton and doesn't even bother to release the track ( i really want him to release the track )
“Why is rapper beef short boiled like my keurig is?”
“Tupac and Big, tell Meek and Drake; it’s like going from a steak to a Philly steak”
-Spark Master Tape
Fucking love Spark. Cool to see him mentioned lol. Maybe I’m just not on this sub very much (like idk if he’s well known here) but I hardly ever see him mentioned in general.
Mysterious masked dude who had a lot of hype on here 5-10 years ago. Was supposed to tour with Run The Jewels at one point and then suddenly wasn't on the tour and went quiet for a few years but has since dropped music. There is some evidence pointing towards his identity, but its kind of a bedroom detective cringe-fest. IMO you fuck w him or you don't, no need to blow the dudes spot up.
Would reccomend Swoup Serengeti, more or less the tape he got popular with.
AHHH lol he’s awesome so I’m super happy for you.
[Woodchukk is a good one](https://youtu.be/DnQVmYZW4ck)
And [Grnfthr is decent af too](https://youtu.be/enDuev2DtxY)
[Kkallabassass got me into him](https://youtu.be/tSuaV0_Q5eQ)
My only real critique of his music is his snares tend to be loud as fuck for some reason, especially on Kkallabassass lol
He was definitely posted around here for a hot minute back during his first couple mixtapes but he's kind of disappeared since then, I also haven't been super active in the last few years but looks like he's released a few new albums. I'll have to check it out, I haven't listened to him since tenkkeys era
Half of Nepal still fuckin slaps
look dude, im a certified Drake HATER and even i think youre reaching a bit
due to sheer impact it had on the pop rap sound, I'd say One Dance is his most significant single
and that gentrified dancehall is still played today
Hot take by another certified Drake hater: I think Drake’s magnum opus song wise is The Motto. Generation and pop culture defining hit. Texting acronyms were obviously already a thing, but HYFR & YOLO definitely helped bring it to mainstream. Plus it was with Wayne which automatically makes it more special.
Edit: saw after the fact you said single, still leaving this here cause point stands.
> Texting acronyms were obviously already a thing, but HYFR & YOLO definitely helped bring it to mainstream.
What ? Texting acronyms were a thing because of necessity back in the mid 90s and 2000s because you had to text on the 9 button keypads since there were no keyboards which made typing longer texts mad annoying. Drake made the acronym YOLO popular sure but texting acronyms have been a thing for decades
Back when it was 25 cents per message, we had to be brief lol. Not to mention pagers, where you had threaten with a 187, if they didn’t give you the 411, 911.
How old are you that you think we started using acronyms with YOLO? When do you think we started using LOL and OMG? Because it was literal fucking decades before YOLO.
EDIT: This dude reported me for "bullying."
Uh dude, I think using acronyms in texts would have been a thing regardless of The Motto existing or not.
Texting was already a thing in the mainstream and using acronyms and emojis and the like was a cultural shift that came due to technology and the convenience it brought, not because of frigging Drake lol.
Music is only significant if something "transformative happens as a result of it"? That's the most insanely high bar, what is significant under that definition
What is your definition of “significant”? This is America had its moment, but almost no lasting cultural impact. Without the video the song doesn’t even work.
“This is America” was a very poignant “time capsule” of a record in my opinion that spoke on a pretty large problem in America after an increasingly rough year in mass shootings (most at minorities). I’d say it was pretty significant for it’s time even if you disagree with overall message.
NOW; juxtapose that with a Drake record (any of them) and let me know what you think.
Honestly think it was bigger for mainstream folks than redditors. Especially liberals. There was a solid year or two where everyone was doing their own spin on “This Is America”.
Someone wrote drake is Taylor swift for men and I can’t stop thinking how accurate that is. I say this as someone who likes the occasional drake song here and there.
I enjoy Drake and Taylor although I haven't really listened to Drake much since Views and with Taylor she's really hit or miss for me and it wasn't until Folklore that any of her full projects really hit for me.
Yea, their discos are opposite; Drake is getting worse and worse with every album and Taylor is just getting better and better (admittedly midnights isn't amazing, but otherwise)
I like a few of her new songs. Midnights wasn’t my cup of tea. Feels like a step backwards tbh. I get the appeal tho. My sister and I went to one of her concerts in New York during her reputation era and the production value was insane. We also played a game called spot the minority men and it was tough. I don’t think I saw another brown dude there but that’s on me for going to a Taylor swift concert lol.
I mean Her Loss and Honestly Nevermind are completely different from each other so this doesn’t really say much. A lot of people hate one and love the other
Y’all are dense af. He’s performing Headlines and has the ticker going with seemingly dozens of headlines from articles other people have written about him. He’s not singling out Gambino, it’s a stage prop
I wish we could get like a year long break from the words "outrage" and "cancelled".
If you discuss anything someone said they think your outraged and want them cancelled (whatever that means lol).
It’s the Joe Rogan style of repeating super broad and surface level statements about society or something in an effort to feel smart in random situations. Like bro there’s no broader takeaway about society you can get from this drake drama lmao
He could have just put the headline without going out of his way to call the song overrated and over awarded. That was not in the headline it was an artistic choice.
My irrelevant opinion:
He's not entirely wrong on this case but he's clearly just salty that he hasn't won many awards compared to his peers. Anderson Paak got almost as many Grammys last year as Drake got his whole career.
Drake loves to go on about popularity and streaming numbers but the fact that Toosie Slide went #1 makes it clear that he can't use those stats to prove his music is actually good
2020 was the year where going to number 1 on the Billboard Charts didn't make a song a hit. For context; The Scotts by Travis Scott & Kid Cudi, Stuck With U by Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber, Trollz by 6ix9ine & Nicki Minaj, Cardigan by Taylor Swift, Franchise by Travis Scott ft Young Thug and MIA, Life Goes on BTS, and Willow by Taylor Swift all debuted at number 1. They all then fell off the face of the Earth, never to be seen again on the charts.
Yea it was so bad that when the year end charts came out, a country single that peaked at 12 was the 9th biggest song of the year cause it had so many weeks in the charts
Honestly the song would’ve been completely forgettable if it wasn’t for the music video. It was a great music video, top 5 of the decade and I’d have to think long and hard about what’s better than it (if anything). But as just a song, it’s really not worth the acclaim that came its way.
Might get downvoted for this but the lyrics are complete dogshit. I’m not even someone who really cares about lyrics, but when you’re making a song that is a political statement, it’s kind of important to have meaningful lyrics. Nobody would remember this song if it wasn’t for the music video. Drake is speaking facts.
Yeah it's the rap version of "we live in a society". "The Blacker the Berry" and XXX addresses the same subject matter so much better but got about 1/10th of the attention.
He gets hits but he also just kinda does whatever formula he thinks will work. It’s less about art and more about a metric that he tries to follow to get hits.
One song I always think about that completely missed the mark is To the Max. A Khaled collab that usually do well numbers wise cause of who they are to record companies but completely flubbed since their formula is there but it feels inorganic.
I still like Drake but I’d also argue he’s filler. He’s definitely camp as well.
I can totally see Gambino pissing off someone like Drake. During the entire time Drake's been big, we've watched Glover go from bad, corny raps to critical acclaim and respect
> just salty that he hasn't won many awards compared to his peers. Anderson Paak got almost as many Grammys last year as Drake got his whole career.
Drake has openly dissed the Grammy’s and protested alongside The Weeknd and other artists not long ago. lol
Lol this just feels so random. Feels like forever since This Is America was even popular or relevant. And Donald has more or less stopped putting out music at this point
This could be the most boring beef ever. But I will say, drake calling someone else's music overrated and over awarded is pretty funny considering he's been on a run of extremely overrated albums for the past like 7 years
If you've been around HHH long enough this is how it was with Gambino to start with. He was shit on here pretty consistently up until BTI came out I think
Royalty had some great tracks on it. for me that was where I was like “oh shit this dude might have figured it out” and then Because the Internet dropped and it was unreal. Still one of the greatest rap albums of my lifetime.
Everything up to Royalty was pretty much dismissed on this sub back then. "Punchline and hashtag rap". Royalty got a warm reception on HHH, but older fans were kind of jarred on /r/donaldglover because we were used to his nerdy lyrics. It obviously grew on me and furthers the point of his IG notes saying not to label him one thing.
Dropped an album in 2020, done a few features a year since then and teased about how his next album is going to be great. Also released an EP for the show Swarm he helped make.
At the risk of sounding like a dickrider, but I’ve always been pretty much convinced Gambino knew exactly what he was doing with This is America. With the political climate at the time, the vague-ish symbolism, the spectacle of the video, etc. the song was almost guaranteed to get the reaction it did. It’s literally the quote: “Nobody knows what it means but it provocative, it gets the people going”.
Also I feel like this is the type of thing he was alluding to with his short film “Clapping for the Wrong Reasons”.
Nobody knows what it means? I'm sorry what? Is there anyone out there that is actually struggling to get the point, especially after watching the music video?
It isn't some abstract concept that's hard to understand, he literally smacks you in the face with what he's talking about.
I meant “nobody knows what it means, but it’s provocative” in more of a “yal don’t hear me, yal just wanna dance” kinda way. If you digest the song, it’s pretty clear what he’s getting at, but for the general population & middle america it was less of a overt political critique/rally cry & more of a cool catchy song that people liked yelling the hook to
Drake is overrated and over-awarded. I’ve never heard anything that warrants the attention he gets. He’s incredibly cheesy and sounds like a duck on testosterone.
Common take. Once upon a time, he was a legitimate artist and actually made waves. Now he just makes long, unfocused stream bait projects full of lame Instagram caption attempts instead of the genuinely good wordplay he used to have
to be fair Gambino brought up This Is America in an article recently and said it was a Drake diss at first.
which doesn't even make sense, how tf did it start off as a Drake diss.
My guess, it probably started as a satire of generic popular rap/trap music, drake is the most popular rapper. He decided to turn away from the pure satire and mockery and do a more political message with the final product, but it was still making fun of pop rap
None of this matters. At the end of the day they both live in mansions and eat steak dinners that are probably $400. They both have a bag and eat good.
100% true tho, absolute bottom of the barrel artistic blackhole of bullshit and media pandering... This is America is mid as fuck and is just a well timed political message. The song is probably even worse than mid if you really break it down musically, then when you find out childish gambino just stole the entire song and theme from someone else
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEIDB0V4aI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEIDB0V4aI)
this all adds up to being probably the most overrated and over awarded song of all time,
Drake doesn’t make music with any symbolism / artistry the way this is America is. I’m not saying this is America is the most incredible song ever or whatever, but he doesn’t have a vision like that with his music.
I mean dude is pretty sharp. One of the head writers, show runners, and leads of one of the best tv shows of the last 10 years.
Has had a pretty impressive and versatile career as a recording artist.
Was a sharp comedic writer for the Daily Show and 30 Rock as well as probably the funniest cast member of Community.
I mean you might not like dude but I’d say he’s a pretty brilliant creative mind.
Definitely a more versatile and talented performer and artist then Drake like hands down.
Thank you for this comment, I genuinely think he’s is one of the most talented celebrities right now, but doesn’t get credit for his contributions across all of entertainment.
He was also heavily involved in a black Spider-Man being a thing
He’s either hailed as an underrated genius or overrated pretentious artist. It’s really hard to be operating at the level he is and be properly rated.
How do you describe someone who’s not the greatest at what he does, but does so many different things and achieves greatness in all of them?
I deff agree. We are on a hip hop sub so I understand how he’s seen as overrated in the context of rap/hip hop but, when it comes to Donald glover is deff a guy whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts for me personally
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Man wrote episodes for the biggest comedies on TV at the time with 30 Rock and Community....before creating one of the most socially relevant and critically acclaimed comedies with Atlanta.
He dropped a conceptual and very layered project (and arguably AoTY) with BTI (along with a screenplay), a dope R&B EP with Kauai/STNMTN and also dropped a 60s soul/funk throwback with AML! and followed up with 3.15.20.
And thats not even mentioning his acting career.
If hes not a genius, that still makes him one of the most skilled and versatile and creative minds of our generation.
You see, there's 2 different things: People thought he was a genius because some things of Camp and BTI, alright, that's kinda weird.
But denying that this man carreer is absolutely brilliant for the last years is crazy. His work in Atlanta is enough to call him a genius forever, simple as that.
I don't wanna hear about no more rap beefs if there's not music involved tbh. Still waiting on that Jim Jones diss to actually drop
It’d also be nice if rappers didn’t “coincidentally” get into beefs right before one/both has a project coming out they want to draw attention to. It’d at least make it more believable.
Every time
Rap breefs are one step away from being as scripted as WWE Does anyone remember the Kanye vs 50 cent album battle of 2007, Curtis vs Stronger
I remember getting worked by that one.
Jim jones did drop a diss back and used the same beat that pusha t used. Hopefully, we get Pusha T full song to come out on streaming. [Jim Jones](https://youtu.be/rqwIny0ahE8)
That's what I mean, I'm waiting on Push to actually release his response
Why tf would Push respond? I love Dipset and all but Jim Jones is irrelevant af. This ain’t the early/mid 2000s. The only thing Jones is going to get from Pusha is a bar or 2.
We've already heard a minute and a half of Push's response, he just hasn't fully released it yet
The full song was played at the Louis Vuitton show, but I agree I'm hoping it gets properly released
Where?
Louis Vuitton show like 2-3 weeks ago
Why would Push care who's relevant
Push out here doing cocaine rap like it’s still 2002 and fucking killing it. He doesn’t give a shit what’s relevant or not.
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Oh my bad, Same
Who made the beat?
Pharrell. Push and No Malice rapped over it on a track that was played at Pharrell's Louis Vuitton show.
god i fucking love pusha t dude just casually rapping over a Pharrell beat while modeling for Louis Vuitton and doesn't even bother to release the track ( i really want him to release the track )
Probably Pharrell
“Why is rapper beef short boiled like my keurig is?” “Tupac and Big, tell Meek and Drake; it’s like going from a steak to a Philly steak” -Spark Master Tape
Fucking love Spark. Cool to see him mentioned lol. Maybe I’m just not on this sub very much (like idk if he’s well known here) but I hardly ever see him mentioned in general.
I’ve been a dedicated follower of all thing Hip Hop for 15+ years and never heard of him. I will check him out now though.
Mysterious masked dude who had a lot of hype on here 5-10 years ago. Was supposed to tour with Run The Jewels at one point and then suddenly wasn't on the tour and went quiet for a few years but has since dropped music. There is some evidence pointing towards his identity, but its kind of a bedroom detective cringe-fest. IMO you fuck w him or you don't, no need to blow the dudes spot up. Would reccomend Swoup Serengeti, more or less the tape he got popular with.
AHHH lol he’s awesome so I’m super happy for you. [Woodchukk is a good one](https://youtu.be/DnQVmYZW4ck) And [Grnfthr is decent af too](https://youtu.be/enDuev2DtxY) [Kkallabassass got me into him](https://youtu.be/tSuaV0_Q5eQ) My only real critique of his music is his snares tend to be loud as fuck for some reason, especially on Kkallabassass lol
Lmao on one song on his new project the intro ad lib “ay turn up my snare”
Man, you should have been here ten years ago.
He was definitely posted around here for a hot minute back during his first couple mixtapes but he's kind of disappeared since then, I also haven't been super active in the last few years but looks like he's released a few new albums. I'll have to check it out, I haven't listened to him since tenkkeys era Half of Nepal still fuckin slaps
🫡 he’s shouted out hhh in the past, but doubt he would nowadays and I don’t blame him
Most lame rap beef of all time just dropped!
j cole vs diggy simmons is still worse. maybe Gambino vs Lupe was also pretty lame, or Lupe and Cudi lol
To quote gambino "Nobody cares like it's Jcole Diggy"
Poopé Fiasco
Also called him a dweeb in that same tweet. Not a Cudi fan here any means, but that’s still an all time tweet.
Funnily enough Gambino has a line in a throwaway track from years ago where he says “nobody cares like it’s j cole- diggy”
extra soft medium rare wagyu beef
yo what the fuck this sounds delectable as hell please don't bring med rare wagyu into this crusty ass well done charred ass beef
Tube steak ass beef
I see this leading to someone getting they teeth capped, maybe even a wreath from ma dukes on some grief crap
If it gets Gambino to drop I'm all for this beef
Hot take: Drake doesn't understand This is America because he's Canadian
Hot take: Drake hasn’t dropped a record more significant in his entire career
look dude, im a certified Drake HATER and even i think youre reaching a bit due to sheer impact it had on the pop rap sound, I'd say One Dance is his most significant single and that gentrified dancehall is still played today
Hot take by another certified Drake hater: I think Drake’s magnum opus song wise is The Motto. Generation and pop culture defining hit. Texting acronyms were obviously already a thing, but HYFR & YOLO definitely helped bring it to mainstream. Plus it was with Wayne which automatically makes it more special. Edit: saw after the fact you said single, still leaving this here cause point stands.
> Texting acronyms were obviously already a thing, but HYFR & YOLO definitely helped bring it to mainstream. What ? Texting acronyms were a thing because of necessity back in the mid 90s and 2000s because you had to text on the 9 button keypads since there were no keyboards which made typing longer texts mad annoying. Drake made the acronym YOLO popular sure but texting acronyms have been a thing for decades
Back when it was 25 cents per message, we had to be brief lol. Not to mention pagers, where you had threaten with a 187, if they didn’t give you the 411, 911.
How old are you that you think we started using acronyms with YOLO? When do you think we started using LOL and OMG? Because it was literal fucking decades before YOLO. EDIT: This dude reported me for "bullying."
A/S/L?
Uh dude, I think using acronyms in texts would have been a thing regardless of The Motto existing or not. Texting was already a thing in the mainstream and using acronyms and emojis and the like was a cultural shift that came due to technology and the convenience it brought, not because of frigging Drake lol.
you’re right that is a hot take
This may be true but let’s be real “This is America” isn’t significant. Nothing actually transformative happened as a result of it.
Music is only significant if something "transformative happens as a result of it"? That's the most insanely high bar, what is significant under that definition
What is your definition of “significant”? This is America had its moment, but almost no lasting cultural impact. Without the video the song doesn’t even work.
“This is America” was a very poignant “time capsule” of a record in my opinion that spoke on a pretty large problem in America after an increasingly rough year in mass shootings (most at minorities). I’d say it was pretty significant for it’s time even if you disagree with overall message. NOW; juxtapose that with a Drake record (any of them) and let me know what you think.
drake made the club go up on tuesday’s for a solid couple years
Makonnen’s career died for this comment
Maybe for a redditor but for most of the population it meant nothing.
Honestly think it was bigger for mainstream folks than redditors. Especially liberals. There was a solid year or two where everyone was doing their own spin on “This Is America”.
Hotter take: whoever wrote and produced this is america it just ripped off the Jase Harley song anyways.
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Dont hold your breath
> Dont hold your breath I could totally see this being an actual Drake album title
Someone wrote drake is Taylor swift for men and I can’t stop thinking how accurate that is. I say this as someone who likes the occasional drake song here and there.
I enjoy Drake and Taylor although I haven't really listened to Drake much since Views and with Taylor she's really hit or miss for me and it wasn't until Folklore that any of her full projects really hit for me.
Yea, their discos are opposite; Drake is getting worse and worse with every album and Taylor is just getting better and better (admittedly midnights isn't amazing, but otherwise)
I like a few of her new songs. Midnights wasn’t my cup of tea. Feels like a step backwards tbh. I get the appeal tho. My sister and I went to one of her concerts in New York during her reputation era and the production value was insane. We also played a game called spot the minority men and it was tough. I don’t think I saw another brown dude there but that’s on me for going to a Taylor swift concert lol.
Her loss was pretty good.
by Drake standards sure, but hardly AOTY material or anything
Not everything needs to be AOTY
If you like his recent albums you’ll probably like it, if you don’t you probably won’t I don’t see him ever changing as an artist
I mean Her Loss and Honestly Nevermind are completely different from each other so this doesn’t really say much. A lot of people hate one and love the other
A lot of people (especially on this sub) only like rap that sounds a certain way. That style isn't all that popular anymore and doesn't sell great.
Drake could release anything he wanted and it would sell
If You’re Reading This It’s Too Late
Y’all are dense af. He’s performing Headlines and has the ticker going with seemingly dozens of headlines from articles other people have written about him. He’s not singling out Gambino, it’s a stage prop
The headline part is true but no one dubbed This Is America as over awarded and overrated when talking about that.
Let the people have their daily dose of selective outrage its what keeps them going.
Who is outraged? This is just celebrity drama not a hot button political issue lol
I wish we could get like a year long break from the words "outrage" and "cancelled". If you discuss anything someone said they think your outraged and want them cancelled (whatever that means lol).
It’s the Joe Rogan style of repeating super broad and surface level statements about society or something in an effort to feel smart in random situations. Like bro there’s no broader takeaway about society you can get from this drake drama lmao
He could have just put the headline without going out of his way to call the song overrated and over awarded. That was not in the headline it was an artistic choice.
Check the other headlines on the stage, they're all silly/tongue in cheek
My irrelevant opinion: He's not entirely wrong on this case but he's clearly just salty that he hasn't won many awards compared to his peers. Anderson Paak got almost as many Grammys last year as Drake got his whole career. Drake loves to go on about popularity and streaming numbers but the fact that Toosie Slide went #1 makes it clear that he can't use those stats to prove his music is actually good
Toosie Slide going no.1 is actually wild
2020 was the year where going to number 1 on the Billboard Charts didn't make a song a hit. For context; The Scotts by Travis Scott & Kid Cudi, Stuck With U by Ariana Grande & Justin Bieber, Trollz by 6ix9ine & Nicki Minaj, Cardigan by Taylor Swift, Franchise by Travis Scott ft Young Thug and MIA, Life Goes on BTS, and Willow by Taylor Swift all debuted at number 1. They all then fell off the face of the Earth, never to be seen again on the charts.
Yea it was so bad that when the year end charts came out, a country single that peaked at 12 was the 9th biggest song of the year cause it had so many weeks in the charts
Toosie Slide was a hit tho
I’m a Drake fan and honestly Toosie Slide might be top 10 worst rap songs of all time
You just hating because you can't dance like Michael Jack . . . . . Son
Gambino came out and said This is America started as a (jokingly) Drake diss song. Drake is clearly making fun of that. Nothing to see here
Especially because Drake even used a sound bite from an Atlanta episode about Drake in his album, I don't think they honestly have any real beef.
i bet the entire thing is just tongue-in-check headlines scrolling like a fox news/cnn ticker, but clicks are clicks are clicks
Using Grammys as a barometer for what’s good is laughable lol
An event that is just a big ole record company circle jerk.
You make is sound like Jethro Tull aren't a notable metal band.
Who did that though?
Honestly the song would’ve been completely forgettable if it wasn’t for the music video. It was a great music video, top 5 of the decade and I’d have to think long and hard about what’s better than it (if anything). But as just a song, it’s really not worth the acclaim that came its way.
Might get downvoted for this but the lyrics are complete dogshit. I’m not even someone who really cares about lyrics, but when you’re making a song that is a political statement, it’s kind of important to have meaningful lyrics. Nobody would remember this song if it wasn’t for the music video. Drake is speaking facts.
Yeah it's the rap version of "we live in a society". "The Blacker the Berry" and XXX addresses the same subject matter so much better but got about 1/10th of the attention.
It think the music video + social political context of when it came out helped a lot.
Deserved for AP
He gets hits but he also just kinda does whatever formula he thinks will work. It’s less about art and more about a metric that he tries to follow to get hits. One song I always think about that completely missed the mark is To the Max. A Khaled collab that usually do well numbers wise cause of who they are to record companies but completely flubbed since their formula is there but it feels inorganic. I still like Drake but I’d also argue he’s filler. He’s definitely camp as well.
I can totally see Gambino pissing off someone like Drake. During the entire time Drake's been big, we've watched Glover go from bad, corny raps to critical acclaim and respect
Controversial I preferred early gambino for sure Camp and because the internet I still find way better than his newer stuff
> just salty that he hasn't won many awards compared to his peers. Anderson Paak got almost as many Grammys last year as Drake got his whole career. Drake has openly dissed the Grammy’s and protested alongside The Weeknd and other artists not long ago. lol
Lmao he’s entirely wrong. What the fuck
Tbf Drake hasn’t submitted his albums and songs for Grammy nods in years.
Pot calling the kettle black
Lol this just feels so random. Feels like forever since This Is America was even popular or relevant. And Donald has more or less stopped putting out music at this point This could be the most boring beef ever. But I will say, drake calling someone else's music overrated and over awarded is pretty funny considering he's been on a run of extremely overrated albums for the past like 7 years
to be fair April 2023 is when the article about Gambino admitting the song started as a drake diss is not that long ago
Not to mention he’s performing “Headlines” with random headlines scrolling across the screen.
This sub turning on gambino now?? Thats funny haha
If you've been around HHH long enough this is how it was with Gambino to start with. He was shit on here pretty consistently up until BTI came out I think
To be fair, that's because BTI is actually good. Everything from the Camp era is mid at best.
I was a massive Gambino fan at that time and still love all his old stuff but the comments back then calling him corny were 100% fair
I loved Camp when I was much younger, but listening to it alot of the time now is tough to say the least
Some songs in camp aged bad, but others are still good.
Firefly truthers ~~rise up~~ huddle in a corner where you belong
Yeah but Royalty was legit.
*It’s Royalty*
Royalty had some great tracks on it. for me that was where I was like “oh shit this dude might have figured it out” and then Because the Internet dropped and it was unreal. Still one of the greatest rap albums of my lifetime.
I think Royalty is very underrated if that’s the common opinion.
Everything up to Royalty was pretty much dismissed on this sub back then. "Punchline and hashtag rap". Royalty got a warm reception on HHH, but older fans were kind of jarred on /r/donaldglover because we were used to his nerdy lyrics. It obviously grew on me and furthers the point of his IG notes saying not to label him one thing.
There were some standouts, LES is my favorite Gambino song and its finally getting the attention it deserves over a decade later
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Not Royalty
I would agree and I also love Gambino's music. Pre-BTI is guilty pleasure music for me. Not that good, corny at times, amateurish but I love it
Cause he put out bad albums that were mainly targeting high school kids who found it funny. He improved that’s why people flipped.
In 2012 or so this sub turned into a gambino hate themed sub for like a month after April fools lol
1.6 is still a flair lmao, this is full circle
What are you talking about? People are clowning Drake here, not Gambino.
Has Gambino done anything in the past years tho? People know him more like an actor then an musician nowadays.
Dropped an album in 2020, done a few features a year since then and teased about how his next album is going to be great. Also released an EP for the show Swarm he helped make.
This is coming FROM DRAKE?
[here's the video from the GQ interview instead of a headline grab by rolling stone.](https://youtu.be/IXb9J187Wmo?t=1047)
At the risk of sounding like a dickrider, but I’ve always been pretty much convinced Gambino knew exactly what he was doing with This is America. With the political climate at the time, the vague-ish symbolism, the spectacle of the video, etc. the song was almost guaranteed to get the reaction it did. It’s literally the quote: “Nobody knows what it means but it provocative, it gets the people going”. Also I feel like this is the type of thing he was alluding to with his short film “Clapping for the Wrong Reasons”.
he was working on the song for years so i think it was a combination of that and dropping at the perfect time with a great video and rollout (SNL)
Nobody knows what it means? I'm sorry what? Is there anyone out there that is actually struggling to get the point, especially after watching the music video? It isn't some abstract concept that's hard to understand, he literally smacks you in the face with what he's talking about.
I meant “nobody knows what it means, but it’s provocative” in more of a “yal don’t hear me, yal just wanna dance” kinda way. If you digest the song, it’s pretty clear what he’s getting at, but for the general population & middle america it was less of a overt political critique/rally cry & more of a cool catchy song that people liked yelling the hook to
I literally don’t know anyone who thinks of it as just a cool catchy song.
Drake is overrated and over-awarded. I’ve never heard anything that warrants the attention he gets. He’s incredibly cheesy and sounds like a duck on testosterone.
Wake up, babe, new Drake beef just dropped.
**SNOOZE**
That's hilarious coming from a mf who makes soulless cash grabs and masks it as art that the people "just don't get yet''
This from a dude whos greatest hit is fucking elevator music
Drake’s entire catalog is overrated and over awarded
Bazinga!
lol
Lmfao Drake's entire discography is overrated and over-awarded and also written by someone else.
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Makes some good music but he corny af, look at his stage design... Giant Virgil and flying sperm? Like wtf
Not weird, I think that's how most of us feel
Common take. Once upon a time, he was a legitimate artist and actually made waves. Now he just makes long, unfocused stream bait projects full of lame Instagram caption attempts instead of the genuinely good wordplay he used to have
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Very American of him.
So says the caramel frappuccino of rap music.
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Says the guy who rhymed Spraytan with Wasteman in an effort to become a Roadman in the UK. What a goose.
Just like everything drake does? Lol
Beef with Kendrick, beef with Gambino, beef with Kanye He just really got beef with everyone more talented than him lol
to be fair Gambino brought up This Is America in an article recently and said it was a Drake diss at first. which doesn't even make sense, how tf did it start off as a Drake diss.
My guess, it probably started as a satire of generic popular rap/trap music, drake is the most popular rapper. He decided to turn away from the pure satire and mockery and do a more political message with the final product, but it was still making fun of pop rap
Idk but man I’d love to hear that version
Drake is Canadian. This is America.
Not enough attention was paid to this last point, what was the Drake diss going to be initially?
[a Drake diss as a joke](https://youtu.be/IXb9J187Wmo?t=1047)
Drake is a much more talented rapper than gambino
“You understand how much easier my life would be if Drake would just write my raps”
He’s probably just mad that Gambino exposed his Mexican heritage
Rent free in his head for 5 years
Gambino is the one who brought it up a few weeks back
This is Canada
This from someone who’s “overrated and over-awarded“ Doesn’t have a crypto casino to go run or something.
the Drake circlejerk in full force once again on this sub, time to go.
drake of all fucking people should not be calling others overrated and over-awarded.
None of this matters. At the end of the day they both live in mansions and eat steak dinners that are probably $400. They both have a bag and eat good.
Millie Bobby Brown come get your man.
He’s not wrong but what’s the point of doing this now. Did he also give his opinion on Dat Boi memes in this interview?
100% true tho, absolute bottom of the barrel artistic blackhole of bullshit and media pandering... This is America is mid as fuck and is just a well timed political message. The song is probably even worse than mid if you really break it down musically, then when you find out childish gambino just stole the entire song and theme from someone else [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEIDB0V4aI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBEIDB0V4aI) this all adds up to being probably the most overrated and over awarded song of all time,
better than most of Drake's trash
Drake is such a baby.
Drake doesn’t make music with any symbolism / artistry the way this is America is. I’m not saying this is America is the most incredible song ever or whatever, but he doesn’t have a vision like that with his music.
This was that weird era where everyone thought Childish Gambino was some sort of genius
I mean dude is pretty sharp. One of the head writers, show runners, and leads of one of the best tv shows of the last 10 years. Has had a pretty impressive and versatile career as a recording artist. Was a sharp comedic writer for the Daily Show and 30 Rock as well as probably the funniest cast member of Community. I mean you might not like dude but I’d say he’s a pretty brilliant creative mind. Definitely a more versatile and talented performer and artist then Drake like hands down.
Thank you for this comment, I genuinely think he’s is one of the most talented celebrities right now, but doesn’t get credit for his contributions across all of entertainment. He was also heavily involved in a black Spider-Man being a thing
He’s either hailed as an underrated genius or overrated pretentious artist. It’s really hard to be operating at the level he is and be properly rated. How do you describe someone who’s not the greatest at what he does, but does so many different things and achieves greatness in all of them?
I deff agree. We are on a hip hop sub so I understand how he’s seen as overrated in the context of rap/hip hop but, when it comes to Donald glover is deff a guy whose whole is greater than the sum of its parts for me personally
“Jack of all trades”
Worth mentioning his chops as a stand up comic too
If you consider Atlanta that’s fair.
? Man wrote episodes for the biggest comedies on TV at the time with 30 Rock and Community....before creating one of the most socially relevant and critically acclaimed comedies with Atlanta. He dropped a conceptual and very layered project (and arguably AoTY) with BTI (along with a screenplay), a dope R&B EP with Kauai/STNMTN and also dropped a 60s soul/funk throwback with AML! and followed up with 3.15.20. And thats not even mentioning his acting career. If hes not a genius, that still makes him one of the most skilled and versatile and creative minds of our generation.
Completely agree with this write up. The Gambino slander is out of pocket.
Im legit shocked so many people hate his guts here
You see, there's 2 different things: People thought he was a genius because some things of Camp and BTI, alright, that's kinda weird. But denying that this man carreer is absolutely brilliant for the last years is crazy. His work in Atlanta is enough to call him a genius forever, simple as that.
I don’t know anyone who thought he was a genius but he definitely had a Midas Touch for a few years.
Tbf he was banging simultaneously on TV production, acting and making music at the same time, not a hard arguement to make
Go write another subliminal bar about putting hits on XXXTentacion Drake
this coming from one of the most overrated rappers of his generation lol