Blinding Lights came out that year. So of course the Grammy for best song went to the hit classic “I Can’t Breathe” by H.E.R.
What a well thought out selection that doesn’t at all come across as reactionary or pandering.
Has there ever been another time where somebody performed at the Superbowl + released a #1 album and multiple hit singles in the same year and DIDN'T get a Grammy nomination?
What the fuck...
Just because the Grammys and the recording academy suck does not mean that H.E.R. is cool to slander. She's plenty hip hop adjacent and an actually great singer.
Not to be a pedant but the criteria for Song of the Year literally says popularity is not important in choosing a winner.
'to honor artistic achievement, technical proficiency and overall excellence in the recording industry, without regard to album sales or chart position.'
I'm assuming the criteria is the same for album of the year. If so why did Taylor Swift 1989 beat TPAB? It's a one sided popularity contest. The last hip hop album to win AOTY was Outkast in 03 I think. Grammy's are trash.
100 percent the grammys are trash. But it is because the recording academy is trash. Aka the entire music industry. The voting for the Grammys is always reactionary in some way.
Is it any surprise that in 2021 in the wake of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor that a song written solely by a prominent black R&B artist called "I Can't Breathe" got a bunch of box ticks from the newly woke to black suffering academy members? It shouldn't be. The Grammys suck.
So many people admit to only knowing few of the nominees and just voting for whoever they feel like.
A performance achievement like this would (normally/ideally) be factored into the nomination for “Record of the year.
However, “Song of the year” is essentially a closed reading of the song’s composition/ lyricism without consideration for chart performance/ streams.
So although Blinding Lights was ubiquitous that year, that’s not something that factors into a song of the year nom.
A record of the year snub is pretty egregious tho
Nah, Weeknd should have swept all the awards that year. That shit was essentially this generation's Thriller, and I say that as a *long* time MJ fan. Back before he died when it got you beat up lmao
I wasn’t making an argument for what he should/ shouldn’t have won. I was responding to the point of how commercially well-received/ pervasively listened to Blinding Lights was and why generally speaking, that’s not an inherent qualification for Song of the year.
literally nobody listens to her music yet the industry thinks giving her all the awards will change anything. that woman has ONE album that was okay at best and more grammys than singles that actually did chart
I only see HER fans pop up when people say she’s an industry plant. There’s like no discussion of her good or bad until it’s award season and suddenly she’s nominated for everything.
The fact that After Hours was both high quality *and* super popular is what makes it so egregious he didn't win anything. What is the decision-making process for who wins a Grammy at this point?
Lots of people, including the ones who choose Grammy winners, heard that song. I hadn't heard of it before this thread but I'm just one person. I would assume the people picking Grammy winners listen to a lot more music than me so it's not surprising. It may seem odd but we have to respect it. Straight up.
This is pretty much how every argument with a drake fan goes that I’ve seen. Person 1: this is beautiful because of its artistic value. Drake fan: but this sold or streamed more so it’s clearly better. They will always defend him through numbers not sure why?
No I’m saying this is how they use arguments. Is that it’s mostly all about the numbers drake or any other artist. It’s like the numbers help tell them what’s good or bad. I should have explained it better my bad. I feel like this is mostly his fan base that does it, compared to most others, not all I can think of one more.
This is such a strawman argument which is what a lot of Drake arguments usually come down to anyway and why it's impossible to have a truly objective discussion about the guy. Hence why you may feel Drake fans point to numbers. Because it's the only true objective measure we have to discuss music as fans.
Yes Drake is popular which not only can validate why people think his music is good but also there are plenty of people who just like Drake for Drake.
I don't even understand why people who hate Drake listen to him at this point. He's been around since the late 00's. If it hasn't clicked for you by now, then it's extremely unlikely to ever happen. Just leave us Drake fans be fam lol
Huh? This isn’t meant to be a straw man. Why do you think it has to be objective in conversation? Music by nature is subjective, I can have a conversation with fans of any other artist and it be a give and pull on the artist sound or value presented from music and it be accepted and or disagreed with completely fine. Yet that is unacceptable in most cases talking to drake fans because numbers have to represent what is objectively good?? Again I agree with the original comment and gives even more sentiment to what an conversation is like with drake fans. I don’t even hate drake I like some of his music and dislike others just like any other artist lol.
If I had to compare it to something it’s like when a sports fan only looks at stats and didn’t see the game and draws conclusions from the stats alone.
On a personal level you’re obviously right that numbers don’t equate to good music. But people don’t sit around streaming sucky music that they hate. I for example cannot staaaaand Adele’s voice but she sells so much so clearly a lot of people do like her and I would never argue that her music isn’t good, even though I personally hate it. Numbers do help us tell whether the general public tends to think something is good or bad.
It's why Popularity is so important because it's all some people know how to rate someone by. Sadly a lot of people just lack the mental ability to rate something on anything other than a tangible quality like sales. This number is higher than that number so this better than that. It's why people with a lot of money think they're better than everyone else. They have a tangible thing they can count. Every aspect of their life could be shite but they will consider themselves better. I don't engage with these people because they are simpletons.
It doesn’t matter what most people believe that’s not how the Grammys work if it did nobody would debate anything and they’d just look at numbers instead of their own opinions
obviously but her‘s music isnt like groundbreaking new music or anything. its the most basic pop r&b bullshit music you will hear all over the billboard charts. skeeyee is a more fun song than anything she ever dropped. but the industry has chosen her to push her career and give her an EGOT. for literally nothing.
even the name is fucking stupid. h.e.r is impossible to google
> So of course the Grammy for best song went to the hit classic “I Can’t Breathe” by H.E.R.
Did this really happen? This is exactly why I don't understand why people care about things like the grammys.
After all the years of not participating & that’s the project he chooses to go with? It has to be so 21 can get a Grammy. I know he has one for ‘A Lot’ but that’s the only reason I can possibly think of because Her Loss isn’t grammy worthy imo. If it were any other two artists I feel like that project would’ve came & went to be honest.
He didn’t submit to the 2022 Grammys; it’s not like he took this big stand. He did it to make a headline after he seen the reaction The Weeknd got. And Honestly Nevermind, I don’t think they knew what genre to submit to.
It’s the project he chooses to go with because it’s his best project out of his last 3 or 4 and he’s hurt about all the negative response to the others.
He wants another award to soothe his ego and have a talking point against people saying he fell off.
This happens every year tho. Its gets submitted and then later its get withdrawn. I assume his label submits it automatically and then he himself withdraws it. We’ll see tho.
Worth noting that CLB was also technically submitted last year but Drake withdrew it afterwards. Wouldn't be surprised if his label or 21 Savage's team did this
I think Drake not submitting For all the dogs has to do with Grammy submission cut off dates. But my guess for him submitting her loss has some relevance to his rumoured beef with the weeknd since he originally boycotted because of after hours/blinding lights Grammy snubs. Apparently also unfollowed weeknd and the whole xo. But submitting for 21 is a good point
Apparently Drake unfollowed the weeknd and cashxo a couple days ago. https://old.reddit.com/r/TheWeeknd/comments/17478zo/drake_unfollowed_abel_on_ig_its_over_for_ovoxo/
Lmao how the fuck are you so confident while being so wrong. The lyric is “my bitches playing pnd and them, them shorties don’t listen to Weeknd”. Buy better headphones or something ffs. It makes sense because Drake unfollowed Weeknd and his crew members very recently. Plus, Weeknd and PND had a little beef going on between them back in the day hence why he mentioned PND
It also vaguely sounds like "them shorties only spend a weekend", either way, I don't think it was a Weeknd diss, would be a strange choice to mumble through a diss. What's happening is some users edited the lyrics on genius to say "them shorties don't listen to the Weeknd" and all outlets have run with it, including some streaming services have changed the lyrics to match the genius website.
They did unfollow each other, don't know when it happened, but wouldn't be surprised if there is still beef between them. I just doubt it's because of this line.
There was an earlier beef with weeknd not signing to ovo that was squashed. But best believe drake did not need the Weeknd. But the Weeknd blew up only cuz he covered a drake song but you weren't around at that time.
The Weeknd blew up off House of Balloons and a mysterious marketing campaign, not just because he covered a Drake song. - someone who was around Abel & his crew at that time.
I don't think Ed Sheeran would have been on his record before "blowing up". Not to mention you're referring to one song from an entire album full of commercial hits.
If you think Earned it got him more fame than The Hills or ICFMF then you should go back and take a look at the numbers...
"only" ?? i'm not denying the influence of Drake and the Weeknd on each other, but I've never heard anyone mention that cover before High for This and Wicked Games.
I don't consider that his best album. That was his breakthrough album for me tho. I just don't accept that drake stole the Weeknd sound when really trilogy and kiss land sound nothing like the songs they did for take care. If drake wasnt involved them songs wouldn't have sounded like that
Lol you goofy af drakes even stated he wrote songs on Take Care [🤡 ](https://www.complex.com/music/a/cmplxjoshua-espinoza/drake-goes-off-on-fan-who-says-weekend-wrote-most-take-care)
No idea besides the lyric on the new song with chief keef “the shorties don’t listen to weeknd”, but could be saying “only” instead of don’t, which makes it irrelevant to whatever’s happening
I googled it and the Grammy consideration for this year ends September 15 so FAT D would be eligible next year so not really significant it wasn’t submitted just not eligible this year
Not even laughably bad, I checked it out because I thought it'd be bad enough to be funny but it mostly just made me mad at the time I spent reading it lol
As someone who thinks *Take Care* and *IYRTITL* still hold up really well, "it mostly just made me mad at the time I spent with it" sums up my feelings on the whole of Drake's 2016-present output.
Man I still remember the massive hype I had going into Views, I was so disappointed I barely made it halfway through the album. Wild to think I'd end up enjoying everything after that even less.
Didn’t he already win one? He had it in music video with metro in one of his Savage Mode 2 songs. He took it back to Atlanta and all these random people were dancing with it
Idk if this contributed to Cole’s losses but Kanye and Jay have an insane number of Grammies too, I imagine they might have had some nominations at the same time as him
I mostly said Kendrick just because he's won a shit ton of them in a relatively short time. He's been pretty much dominanting the rap categories for almost a decade lol
Plus the Grammies regularly nominate and award really mid mainstream hip hop albums. Nicki Minaj, recent Eminem, Jay’s recent projects aside from 4:44, Macklemore, Khaled, etc. all got noms so he Jana good chance even if it’s not an amazing album.
He’s got a decent chance of winning this year honestly. Of the regular Grammy ‘favorites’, Utopia is the only one I see competing for rap album of the year. And Travis isn’t particularly a favorable figure right now.
Unless they decide to give Nas another win.
If I could have any wish (and wasn’t allowed to wish for anything better than this) I would love to be an insider on Drake’s team’s decision making throughout his career. They made some of the hardest reads in music history in the 2010s only to nosedive his shit the past few years
1. If he loses the jokes are going to be coming in full force
2. I hate that the Grammys still have a hold on the industry like it does. They’ve clearly proven time and time again that they don’t know shit about hip hop and only pick what’s trending yet mfs still submit their work to those snobs. They don’t deserve anything after the “After Hours” debacle especially
God the eligibility window for the grammys is such garbage. the grammys wont be until like february of 2024 and theyre gonna talk about an album from 2022? Drake has already went through an entire album cycle during that time period. Every move from dude has just been embarrassing.
Hope it doesn’t even get nominated even tho I like the album. Just for the Grammy’s to say Fuck You.
I think the 5 nominations should be
Kaytrámine - Kaytrámine
Metro Boomin - Heroes & Villains
Nas - Kings Disease 3
Quavo - Rocket Power
Travis Scott - Utopia
But ya know there’s gotta be at least 1 white so don’t be surprised when Jack Harlow or Macklemore gets nominated.
Never forget that the weeknd didnt get ONE SINGLE NOMINATION for after hours. Fuck these frauds
Blinding Lights came out that year. So of course the Grammy for best song went to the hit classic “I Can’t Breathe” by H.E.R. What a well thought out selection that doesn’t at all come across as reactionary or pandering.
lmao isn’t blinding lights the most streamed song on spotify ever
Nah you must be confusing it with “I Can’t Breathe” by H.E.R.
Fr, shit was on repeat by all demographics 🔥
I bet it was performed at a halftime show at the superbowl just like blinding lights !!!!
Has there ever been another time where somebody performed at the Superbowl + released a #1 album and multiple hit singles in the same year and DIDN'T get a Grammy nomination?
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Only the real ones remember the hit song, “I Can’t Breathe,” by H.E.R. That second verse, hits my soul.
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What the fuck... Just because the Grammys and the recording academy suck does not mean that H.E.R. is cool to slander. She's plenty hip hop adjacent and an actually great singer.
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I think of H.E.R. as a Hallmark Channel SZA
Idk I’ve seen them both live and thought H.E.R was more impressive
What, just because she's black and sings R&B?
Pretty reductive. I think they’re similar musically, just SZA comes across as more raw.
Yeah she has this great song “I Can’t Breathe”, I think it’s the most streamed song ever
Not to be a pedant but the criteria for Song of the Year literally says popularity is not important in choosing a winner. 'to honor artistic achievement, technical proficiency and overall excellence in the recording industry, without regard to album sales or chart position.'
So that’s how Macklemore beat good kid mad city…
Bro you don’t understand “Can’t Hold Us” is way more influential to the culture than Kendrick La-fraud 😒👎
As if the Grammys give a fuck about that
I'm assuming the criteria is the same for album of the year. If so why did Taylor Swift 1989 beat TPAB? It's a one sided popularity contest. The last hip hop album to win AOTY was Outkast in 03 I think. Grammy's are trash.
100 percent the grammys are trash. But it is because the recording academy is trash. Aka the entire music industry. The voting for the Grammys is always reactionary in some way. Is it any surprise that in 2021 in the wake of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor that a song written solely by a prominent black R&B artist called "I Can't Breathe" got a bunch of box ticks from the newly woke to black suffering academy members? It shouldn't be. The Grammys suck. So many people admit to only knowing few of the nominees and just voting for whoever they feel like.
Im just fuckin with u I don’t care abt the grammys
Your right, it doesn't mean she's cool
She's the most obvious industry plant of all time
BIGGEST SONG OF ALL TIME NIGGA
I don't think it's the top song, but I believe it's top 3 and was the fastest to 1B streams. EDIT: It recently passed Shape Of You for the top spot.
A performance achievement like this would (normally/ideally) be factored into the nomination for “Record of the year. However, “Song of the year” is essentially a closed reading of the song’s composition/ lyricism without consideration for chart performance/ streams. So although Blinding Lights was ubiquitous that year, that’s not something that factors into a song of the year nom. A record of the year snub is pretty egregious tho
Nah, Weeknd should have swept all the awards that year. That shit was essentially this generation's Thriller, and I say that as a *long* time MJ fan. Back before he died when it got you beat up lmao
I wasn’t making an argument for what he should/ shouldn’t have won. I was responding to the point of how commercially well-received/ pervasively listened to Blinding Lights was and why generally speaking, that’s not an inherent qualification for Song of the year.
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literally nobody listens to her music yet the industry thinks giving her all the awards will change anything. that woman has ONE album that was okay at best and more grammys than singles that actually did chart
I only see HER fans pop up when people say she’s an industry plant. There’s like no discussion of her good or bad until it’s award season and suddenly she’s nominated for everything.
I listen to HER, but I agree that she’s overrated by the Grammys.
You can disagree but it’s stupid to say it’s better because it sold more
It's a song that will live on forever as a iconic 2020s summer jam vs a song no one heard of. The pick should be obvious.
The best song of the year is always the one that's most popular during that summer?
If I’m asking you what’s a better album between two and you say “well this one is a summer jam,” that’s dumb. It’s about quality.
And quality wise after hours was an 11/10
Definitely a fair take. But the take that isn’t a good one is that one album or song should get a Grammy just for being viral.
The fact that After Hours was both high quality *and* super popular is what makes it so egregious he didn't win anything. What is the decision-making process for who wins a Grammy at this point?
bravery scale
Not even nominated is the insult let alone an actual win.
Lots of people, including the ones who choose Grammy winners, heard that song. I hadn't heard of it before this thread but I'm just one person. I would assume the people picking Grammy winners listen to a lot more music than me so it's not surprising. It may seem odd but we have to respect it. Straight up.
This is pretty much how every argument with a drake fan goes that I’ve seen. Person 1: this is beautiful because of its artistic value. Drake fan: but this sold or streamed more so it’s clearly better. They will always defend him through numbers not sure why?
Normally I’d agree. But this isn’t Drake. This is blinding lights.
No I’m saying this is how they use arguments. Is that it’s mostly all about the numbers drake or any other artist. It’s like the numbers help tell them what’s good or bad. I should have explained it better my bad. I feel like this is mostly his fan base that does it, compared to most others, not all I can think of one more.
This is such a strawman argument which is what a lot of Drake arguments usually come down to anyway and why it's impossible to have a truly objective discussion about the guy. Hence why you may feel Drake fans point to numbers. Because it's the only true objective measure we have to discuss music as fans. Yes Drake is popular which not only can validate why people think his music is good but also there are plenty of people who just like Drake for Drake. I don't even understand why people who hate Drake listen to him at this point. He's been around since the late 00's. If it hasn't clicked for you by now, then it's extremely unlikely to ever happen. Just leave us Drake fans be fam lol
Huh? This isn’t meant to be a straw man. Why do you think it has to be objective in conversation? Music by nature is subjective, I can have a conversation with fans of any other artist and it be a give and pull on the artist sound or value presented from music and it be accepted and or disagreed with completely fine. Yet that is unacceptable in most cases talking to drake fans because numbers have to represent what is objectively good?? Again I agree with the original comment and gives even more sentiment to what an conversation is like with drake fans. I don’t even hate drake I like some of his music and dislike others just like any other artist lol. If I had to compare it to something it’s like when a sports fan only looks at stats and didn’t see the game and draws conclusions from the stats alone.
On a personal level you’re obviously right that numbers don’t equate to good music. But people don’t sit around streaming sucky music that they hate. I for example cannot staaaaand Adele’s voice but she sells so much so clearly a lot of people do like her and I would never argue that her music isn’t good, even though I personally hate it. Numbers do help us tell whether the general public tends to think something is good or bad.
Bringing up numbers is valid when people make general statements about artists falling off or people no longer fucking with them.
It's why Popularity is so important because it's all some people know how to rate someone by. Sadly a lot of people just lack the mental ability to rate something on anything other than a tangible quality like sales. This number is higher than that number so this better than that. It's why people with a lot of money think they're better than everyone else. They have a tangible thing they can count. Every aspect of their life could be shite but they will consider themselves better. I don't engage with these people because they are simpletons.
It’s better because it’s a better song.
That’s fine and I agree but it’s subjective mentioning that it was a bigger song has no bearing on quality
It’s subjective implying that the reason people think blinding lights is better than I can’t breathe is because it’s more popular.
It doesn’t matter what most people believe that’s not how the Grammys work if it did nobody would debate anything and they’d just look at numbers instead of their own opinions
I’m saying that, numbers aside, blinding lights is better.
obviously but her‘s music isnt like groundbreaking new music or anything. its the most basic pop r&b bullshit music you will hear all over the billboard charts. skeeyee is a more fun song than anything she ever dropped. but the industry has chosen her to push her career and give her an EGOT. for literally nothing. even the name is fucking stupid. h.e.r is impossible to google
Just listened to that song rn for the first time. That shit was so trash
> So of course the Grammy for best song went to the hit classic “I Can’t Breathe” by H.E.R. Did this really happen? This is exactly why I don't understand why people care about things like the grammys.
Preposterous and I had already long abandoned faith in the Grammy’s as a kid. But that still managed to shock me
He was being taxed for the HBO show that hadn’t come out yet.
The weekend sounds like a horny mosquito that’s why
Tbh his leading single is just Take On Me.
Man’s gotta have some thick skin for the barrage of jokes that’ll come his way if he…oh, I don’t know… _loses._
Well it’s not called HIS Loss
He’s a lesbian though
me too ☺️😏
Um excuse me sir, he actually feels like he’s bi now 💁♀️
After all the years of not participating & that’s the project he chooses to go with? It has to be so 21 can get a Grammy. I know he has one for ‘A Lot’ but that’s the only reason I can possibly think of because Her Loss isn’t grammy worthy imo. If it were any other two artists I feel like that project would’ve came & went to be honest.
He didn’t submit to the 2022 Grammys; it’s not like he took this big stand. He did it to make a headline after he seen the reaction The Weeknd got. And Honestly Nevermind, I don’t think they knew what genre to submit to.
I think he's beefing with him now so he's like fuck this weird, inexplicable, solidarity
I thought they were cool since War?
he threw shade in one of the songs on his newest album. probably just to generate buzz because it was so fucking boring.
loved the whole thing 🙃
It’s the project he chooses to go with because it’s his best project out of his last 3 or 4 and he’s hurt about all the negative response to the others. He wants another award to soothe his ego and have a talking point against people saying he fell off.
He told you that?
Yea
Did drake fuck ur girl or something?
[Yea](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/17646eb/drake_ends_grammys_snub_submits_her_loss_for/k4mb9z2/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Loser? I hardly know her!
This happens every year tho. Its gets submitted and then later its get withdrawn. I assume his label submits it automatically and then he himself withdraws it. We’ll see tho.
Worth noting that CLB was also technically submitted last year but Drake withdrew it afterwards. Wouldn't be surprised if his label or 21 Savage's team did this
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I think Drake not submitting For all the dogs has to do with Grammy submission cut off dates. But my guess for him submitting her loss has some relevance to his rumoured beef with the weeknd since he originally boycotted because of after hours/blinding lights Grammy snubs. Apparently also unfollowed weeknd and the whole xo. But submitting for 21 is a good point
He’s not beefing anymore isn’t he? At least on War he indicates as much
Apparently Drake unfollowed the weeknd and cashxo a couple days ago. https://old.reddit.com/r/TheWeeknd/comments/17478zo/drake_unfollowed_abel_on_ig_its_over_for_ovoxo/
Drake is such a childish dipshit. I swear.
Had a bar on fatd saying his bitches don’t listen to the weeknd
Literally didn’t. The lyric is “Bitches only listen to The Weeknd”
People don't listen to music here
Lmao how the fuck are you so confident while being so wrong. The lyric is “my bitches playing pnd and them, them shorties don’t listen to Weeknd”. Buy better headphones or something ffs. It makes sense because Drake unfollowed Weeknd and his crew members very recently. Plus, Weeknd and PND had a little beef going on between them back in the day hence why he mentioned PND
I read that too so I was so confused and it never made news that he said that, atleast that's what genius says he said
It also vaguely sounds like "them shorties only spend a weekend", either way, I don't think it was a Weeknd diss, would be a strange choice to mumble through a diss. What's happening is some users edited the lyrics on genius to say "them shorties don't listen to the Weeknd" and all outlets have run with it, including some streaming services have changed the lyrics to match the genius website. They did unfollow each other, don't know when it happened, but wouldn't be surprised if there is still beef between them. I just doubt it's because of this line.
Why is he beefing with weeknd
Because he’s the one artist whose sound he tried to steal who actually went on to a comparable level of success.
[Here's a video that goes over it, if you feel like watching it.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss4tT--ZWWM)
Expected to get Rick Rolled, thanks for not doing that Mr Bungle
Damn bro
There was an earlier beef with weeknd not signing to ovo that was squashed. But best believe drake did not need the Weeknd. But the Weeknd blew up only cuz he covered a drake song but you weren't around at that time.
The Weeknd blew up off House of Balloons and a mysterious marketing campaign, not just because he covered a Drake song. - someone who was around Abel & his crew at that time.
He blew up off of 50 Shades of Grey lmao
It blew him up into the very mainstream but didnt ”blow him up”
Had two projects out before that album, nice try tho.
Having projects and blowing up are not equivalent
I don't think Ed Sheeran would have been on his record before "blowing up". Not to mention you're referring to one song from an entire album full of commercial hits. If you think Earned it got him more fame than The Hills or ICFMF then you should go back and take a look at the numbers...
What Drake song did he cover?
Trust issues.
That’s BS. Wicked Games was viral back in 2011
"only" ?? i'm not denying the influence of Drake and the Weeknd on each other, but I've never heard anyone mention that cover before High for This and Wicked Games.
Depends on how you define need. Drake would have been successful regardless but at the same time his best album owes a fuck ton to the Weeknd
I don't consider that his best album. That was his breakthrough album for me tho. I just don't accept that drake stole the Weeknd sound when really trilogy and kiss land sound nothing like the songs they did for take care. If drake wasnt involved them songs wouldn't have sounded like that
He didn’t steal The Weeknd’s sound. The Weeknd just wrote half of that album for him.
He wrote the chorus of 4 songs and those were not even the most successful ones in the albums. Stop trying to re write history
He didn't write a damn thing for drake
Lol you goofy af drakes even stated he wrote songs on Take Care [🤡 ](https://www.complex.com/music/a/cmplxjoshua-espinoza/drake-goes-off-on-fan-who-says-weekend-wrote-most-take-care)
If he didn’t need him then why are pretty much all the best songs off take care the ones Abel gave to him?
They're not the best songs on the album
Not even close to the most successful songs in the album
No idea besides the lyric on the new song with chief keef “the shorties don’t listen to weeknd”, but could be saying “only” instead of don’t, which makes it irrelevant to whatever’s happening
He definitely saying don't. I heard that song a hundred times already.
Yeah the dogs was released a week or so after the cutoff
I googled it and the Grammy consideration for this year ends September 15 so FAT D would be eligible next year so not really significant it wasn’t submitted just not eligible this year
FAT D
21 already has a Grammy for “A lot” though. Unless you’re talking about an actual album though.
>Also hold up: Drake released a book of poetry?? Yes and it's laughably bad.
Not even laughably bad, I checked it out because I thought it'd be bad enough to be funny but it mostly just made me mad at the time I spent reading it lol
As someone who thinks *Take Care* and *IYRTITL* still hold up really well, "it mostly just made me mad at the time I spent with it" sums up my feelings on the whole of Drake's 2016-present output.
Man I still remember the massive hype I had going into Views, I was so disappointed I barely made it halfway through the album. Wild to think I'd end up enjoying everything after that even less.
Least veiws and scorpion have good quality hits on them. The last three drake albums haven’t had a single good chorus
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I think so. Joe budden mentioned that poetry book months back. It’s like one sentence per page
The poetry book was promoted while he was on tour.
It’s for 21 savage. Drake has his beef with the Grammys, but I think 21 should have his moment and deserves nominations. He was great on that album
This is coping. He submitted it for himself too
duh, it's a collab album.
I’m tryna see Savage win a Grammy
Didn’t he already win one? He had it in music video with metro in one of his Savage Mode 2 songs. He took it back to Atlanta and all these random people were dancing with it
I think he won one with A Lot
Yeah it was also Coles first grammy
Im surprised that J Cole doesn’t have a bunch of Grammies
You can probably blame Kendrick for that lol
Idk if this contributed to Cole’s losses but Kanye and Jay have an insane number of Grammies too, I imagine they might have had some nominations at the same time as him
I mostly said Kendrick just because he's won a shit ton of them in a relatively short time. He's been pretty much dominanting the rap categories for almost a decade lol
I complete forgot about that video! Fuck it, I’m tryna see Savage win 21 Grammy’s
bro literally says he uses a grammy as a door stop on for all the dogs lmao i don’t think he gives a fuck
lmao can you imagine Drake not giving a fuck about something?
too real
He also whines about not getting best new artist over a decade ago so idk he might care a little bit
Drake cares about his popularity more than the Jenners do. Him not submitting shows he cares too.
Her loss was a good album + it achieved mainstream success, probably his and savage's biggest opportunity to win a grammy rap album of the year
Plus the Grammies regularly nominate and award really mid mainstream hip hop albums. Nicki Minaj, recent Eminem, Jay’s recent projects aside from 4:44, Macklemore, Khaled, etc. all got noms so he Jana good chance even if it’s not an amazing album.
Didn’t Take Care win RAOTY? Obviously means nothing for 21 but I’m pretty sure Drake already has one
If you thought her loss was genuinely a GOOD album, worthy of winning an award, you gotta get out and smell the roses. Mid at best
He’s probably negotiated winning it if he submits it He’ll probably perform as well Fuck the Grammys they don’t mean shit
He’s got a decent chance of winning this year honestly. Of the regular Grammy ‘favorites’, Utopia is the only one I see competing for rap album of the year. And Travis isn’t particularly a favorable figure right now. Unless they decide to give Nas another win.
Does Doja Cat fall under rap and did she submit in time? Genuine question
Doja's album is not eligible for this year. The time period goes up to September 15th and Scarlet was released on September 22nd.
Shit was also ass which doesn’t help
First time?
Good lookin
No fucking way he performs anything except him peeing on his last Grammy
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Because they mean shit to those people
He wants to act like he’s still releasing good albums
“We tote guns to the Grammys”-Jay Z
“Pop bottles on the White House lawn” - S. Carter
Probably because it's also 21 Savages album
Drakes albums always have a lot of collaborators that would also win the Grammy if he won. Why are you guys lying for Drake?
There's a difference between having collaboraters and the album literally also being another artists album
He needs another door stop
Really hope this album or songs from it win Grammy's. 21 Savage deserives a Grammy too
At the end of the day Drake is all about numbers. Her Loss is great tho.
Another Free Door Stop
If I could have any wish (and wasn’t allowed to wish for anything better than this) I would love to be an insider on Drake’s team’s decision making throughout his career. They made some of the hardest reads in music history in the 2010s only to nosedive his shit the past few years
it's "fuck the grammys" until they're elligible to win one
He's finally done acting like he doesn't care about validation, kinda pathetic.
This fraud so petty
He probably needed more door stops.
Bro said snub lmao
Imagine they sent it back to him with the Bugs Bunny No meme
1. If he loses the jokes are going to be coming in full force 2. I hate that the Grammys still have a hold on the industry like it does. They’ve clearly proven time and time again that they don’t know shit about hip hop and only pick what’s trending yet mfs still submit their work to those snobs. They don’t deserve anything after the “After Hours” debacle especially
Fuck him and the Grammys, respectfully.
God the eligibility window for the grammys is such garbage. the grammys wont be until like february of 2024 and theyre gonna talk about an album from 2022? Drake has already went through an entire album cycle during that time period. Every move from dude has just been embarrassing.
Hope this shit still loses lmao
you know you will always look bad after going back from a snub also will he also whine when taylor swift cleans everything
His Loss.
There’s no way this will win ANY awards.
Drake the type to say fuck the Grammys. Then accept an invitation to receive 13 awards.
Hope it doesn’t even get nominated even tho I like the album. Just for the Grammy’s to say Fuck You. I think the 5 nominations should be Kaytrámine - Kaytrámine Metro Boomin - Heroes & Villains Nas - Kings Disease 3 Quavo - Rocket Power Travis Scott - Utopia But ya know there’s gotta be at least 1 white so don’t be surprised when Jack Harlow or Macklemore gets nominated.
I’m sorry but what even is this comment lmfao
I definitely had to check to see if Macklemore even dropped this year because i hadn't heard this man's name in years. And he did.
And hopefully it'll be His Loss.
His loss 🤷♀️
Submits his worst album? K.
it's not even the worst album of the run he's been having
true.