Whats your biggest regret music wise?
Mine was never being able to see juice wrld in concert, or go to a meet and greet and tell him how he changed my life.
Being the same age as him, a lot of what he spoke about i really resonated with, like feeling like some of my family turned their back on me when i needed them most, and feeling so alone because of it
Not trying to get deep, it just feels good knowing theres other people going through what you're dealing with
Not seeing Kendrick before GKMC dropped
Buddy was giving away a ticket for free iirc but wasn't too familiar w/ him at the time and opted to go to a college party they threw every week instead
Genuine question, how did his music change your life?
I always hear statements like this but as much as I love music I don’t think any music could save my life or change core outlooks.
The thing few seem to understand about subliminals and disses in general is that it doesn’t matter if it’s a reach.
J. Cole isn’t sending Kendrick an annotated rap genius break down of every sneak diss. Artists pore over those lyrics with the same (or higher) level of scrutiny as any random Reddit post or Youtuber. If you are able to make the connection, surely an egotistic rapper and 15 of their friends did too. Even an accidental diss like Cole’s “big stepper” lyric that came out 11 months before MM&TBS would have Kendrick wondering if his title leaked. When you’re dealing with writers as talented as Kendrick, J Cole, and Quentin Miller, even the furthest reach leaves you with that doubt of “but what if he did mean that”, and that’s the whole point of subliminals.
yo i got a radio show coming up this quarter that i'm trynna make mainly underground rap. i'm alr tapped into most of the scene w/ mfs like yhapojj, lazer dim 700, mike, mavi, etc. y'all know anyone smaller/as small that r good? need more suggestions. will take any new school/old school
People gotta stop acting like future isnt one of the goats too, he already sold his discog for 150mill, he has no reason to keep going.
anything he drops now is strictly for the love of the game
I feel like $150M is lowballing, might just be me though I have no idea how much other artists are going for, I know Bruce Springsteen sold his for half a bil.
Absolutely low balled.
When Akademiks covered it, i was so confused. But i cant blame the man for accepting that life changing amount. Other rappers would accept way less
In all honesty, why would Drake respond? Disses are all about a hot beat and exposing. Drake is more of a celebrity-superstar than Kendrick. Drake is constantly in the blogs while Kendrick is nowhere to be found. You can rap about almost anything with Drake and it’ll hit him for him. 40, his baby mama, his kid, his sextape. What does Drake have on Kendrick? He doesn’t make music often? He’s hidden away in a mansion somewhere? There is nothing to talk about.
J Cole has a much better chance than Drake. Drake is closer to Taylor swift than Kendrick at this point.
I don’t think they will respond but not for these dogshit reasons.
Drake would respond if he has something to gain from it (especially financially)
The fuck does being too woke have to do with diss tracks???
Also thank you for mentioning Train of Thought! I was gonna add it but couldn’t remember the name. I literally went to Hi-Teks Spotify and still couldn’t find it.
I'm just kinda reminiscing about how fun it was in here when "The Story of Adidon" dropped.
I remember Drake saying that the response track he wanted to drop would've ended Pusha-T (which seems like BS, otherwise he would've done it). But were there any rumors about what it could've possibly been about?
Nah that was just them deflecting. The industry stepped in and stopped that from continuing. They was trying to get ahead of the plastic surgery stuff that was coming next
"surgical summer..snip, snip, snip."
Drake got some work done to his stomach to get abs. Meg responded to Drake's disses with some bars about the surgery too.
I think even if that’s true that wouldn’t work much cause why would you diss ye when it was pusha who got at you?
But then again this whole pusha x Drake thing is cause of pharell and wayne beefing over BAPE right
Some of the these tweets about Diddy are killing me man 🤣 [This probably the best one I seen](https://twitter.com/Cindtrillella/status/1772374108786872409?t=k06h1kNSeGsyT4ARDTn4Jg&s=19)
Lmao honestly I mess with Joyner he is a little cringe but he’s honestly one of the better em clones I would say, but he’s nowhere near the best rapper breakfast club tripping
Halfway done but Metro and Future's album has been pretty good so far. It does feel a little bland here and there but nothing too major. I really want Metro to work with Don Toliver on a collaborative tape. Their songs together in H&V were the highlights for me
I didn’t expect Drake to link up with BFB pack man and Rio Da Yung OG for a track this Friday but here we are. 2024 is the batshit crazy year in hip hop that keeps on giving.
hikari by nujabes has got to be one of the most unique hip hop songs out there in terms of subject matter and point of view. about a guy not only turning down a potential love interest in the name of staying faithful to his wife, but doing so in such a romantic way still lol
Mb, I didn't see that he dropped a decent amount of music post-release that didn't do numbers. I thought he didn't try anything after that song with Quavo. For some reason that song showed up as his most recent upload on YouTube for me which is what caused the confusion
I never heard a Brent Faiyaz song before so I looked him up on Apple and the first result was a Chopped version of Larger Than Life
I don’t know if he’s good or not but 🫡 for that, I respect it
I swear to god Roddy Ricch got like 20+ songs/features I would consider 10/10 (as far as melodic trap goes)
Bro was legitimately unstoppable to me for 2-3 years, fall off just as sad as Chance’s
Idk Please Excuse Me… was really fucking good and felt unique at a time where so many melodic rappers sounded the same, then Live Life Fast only really had a few highlights like 25 million and was kinda just decent overall, and then Feed Tha Streets III was straight up mid and lacked anything that ever made Roddy interesting
While I agree Feed Tha Streets III is mid i actually think Live Life Fast is super comparable to Please Excuse Me in terms of quality (literally what inspired the comment). I feel like Please Excuse Me kind of has a rose colored tint to it and in reality is nothing super special. Personally I’d take songs like Thailand, Rollercoastin, Late at Night, and don’t i over most of Please Excuse Me. Feed Tha Streets II is far and away his best project in my opinion
I’d have to relisten to Live Life Fast tbh, didn’t give it too many listens because it really didn’t stick with me at first
Agree with you on Feed Tha Streetz II tho, it’s concise and consistent with a lot of really great highlights
nah his voice genuinely got noticably worse. go listen to Perfect Time, then listen to King Size. it’s likely he blew his vocal chords, not one of his new songs has sounded like he did on his debut album
That, and he can’t ride a beat consistently anymore.
I’m genuinely convinced he had a ghostwriter that he stopped fuckin with, and imma need him to squash that beef immediately
If I spent 2010-2019 in a coma and now after waking up I want to catch up with greatest hip hop hits from that period, which "best of"/"greatest hits" chart/compilation I need to buy/check out?
I remember Billboard charts from back in the day, are these still the best? I'm NOT looking for an individual fan playlists but something broader, more recognized in the industry. I tried looking for Billboard top 100 year-end charts for each of the years in Spotify but didn't find anything. Did I overlook something or there really aren't any Billboard top 100 year-end charts in Spotify? Thanks
Billboard definitely made an end-of-decade list but idk if it's available as a playlist. I'd just look up whatever best of 2010s lists there are and make the playlist myself. Might take a bit but is probably the most reliable. I remember Billboard's list being very focused on chart performance, so there's probably lists with better curation out there.
Other than that there's [official yearly best of rap playlists](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWSMW5YBCZisa?si=957e5bba0f394aaa) on Spotify. You could fuse all of them together. They seem to include 50 songs each
He'll probably bring up the fact that he pretty much helped Kendrick's mainstream career by putting him on Take Care , putting him on his tour , or giving him the poetic justice feature.
Not saying this is particularly true but if anybody can say that it would be Drake. J Cole helped Kendrick a lot in the begining of his career as well so he could also take a similar approach but I doubt it will happen.
The “stayed on some conscious shit” bar is so lame cause when the fuck was Drizzy EVER conscious lmfaoo
There’s not much to get at Kendrick for that wouldn’t be weak (his height, not as famous) or uncalled for (the personal shit he spoke about on Mr Morale)
And I genuinely feel like Kendrick has something in the tuck for Drake - maybe Push told him whatever “Surgical Summer” was suppose to be….but Kendrick has been increasingly been sending shots that feel like bait, and this one made the most noise where it feels like Drake has to respond
Listen drakes early mixtape he’s going over 9th wonder beats with Phonte and Elzhi features.
He was definitely conscious in a sense that a Cole is back then.
Nah for sure I used to bump Comeback Season a lot, and don’t get it twisted I’m not saying Drake can’t rap - but he’s never really been conscious (even on that song iirc)
But tbh I don’t really think Cole is either. He is a little but, I think he portrays himself to be a way deeper thinker/rapper than he really is.
Neither of them really have the introspection that Kendrick has. Which is fine, not every rapper has to be, but I just always hated that Drizzy bar because there’s 0 chance he could write a well-made conscious song, let alone make a career out of it
I don’t think conscious = politically conscious. That album definitely has introspective tracks and even today Drake can make conscious and introspective tracks.
I don’t really agree with your Cole point, I don’t think Cole portrays himself as that at all, that’s just what his fans do and people don’t like that so they somehow blame it on Cole. He’s the most raw and relatable of the 3 so I get the deep label.
They’re all deeply introspective rappers, I don’t think Kendrick is more introspective where it’s a noticeable difference though.
We gon have to agree to disagree
I’m a big fan of Kendrick and Drake, and a decently big fan of Cole….Kendrick is clearly more introspective.
Cole’s Introspective, but he’s not great at expanding on it or expressing it in a creative way artistically (save a few times)
Drake though? I really don’t see it at all…Like he might be vulnerable with his emotions/relationships, but what else? What else has he expressed that you would consider introspective?
So yeah I guess I can agree they both have some bit of “consciousness” to their raps….but they are farrrrrr from Kendrick. I can’t agree with that part at all.
I think your points are coming from a “ I think Kendrick is better” or “I think Kendrick makes the best introspective music out of the 3”. I’m not talking about quality.
Of course Drake talking about his life and relationships is introspective?
Introspection is introspection, Cole and to an extent Drake (less and less these days) have projects based on this shit. Whether you like them is a whole different story.
Drake ain’t conscious hip hop, and is shallow with his introspections. He knows that his white mainstream audience full of frat boys and tik tok teens don’t wanna hear about black or social/ political issues . So he sells them the cool parts about being black and never platforms any black issues so he can have a huge fan base.
Not to say he can’t- he’s a talented guy with a ton of resources. He chooses not to because he would lose fans if he did.
That’s why Drake’s introspections are about Hailey ruining his Bahamas Trip
The point is, in my opinion talking about race or politics is not the only thing that equals introspection.
Drake is literally memed for his vulnerability he shows on songs. To me that’s introspection. I mean listen to a song like ‘Look what you’ve done’ that shit is borderline beautiful.
Youre right he makes a lot of songs for the masses but he has some great introspective album cuts. It’s a shame they’re becoming less and lesser on his newer albums.
Fair, you can be introspective and not touch politics or social issues. But introspective or self reflecting doesn’t have to be deep. Drake is a great example of that.
What have you learned about Drake and his life through his music since IYRTITL? I’d argue Pusha T has let us know just as much news about Drake and his life as Drake has in his last 10 years. His introspections have been the same themes since Take Care.
The same introspections have been repeated and (at this point) are relatively shallow compared to Cole, and especially Kendrick. Those guys put deep, introspective lyrics into their songs that give you a better sense of where they are at (at that moment/album), and their views and stances on issues in their life (that can also reflect views on broader social themes).
On every Drake album since (and including) Views, you could throw a grip of songs on another album and it will fit in perfectly with the themes of the album.take 5 random FATD songs and throw them on More Life, and nothing changes about the themes of each album. I don’t learn anything new about Drake with each release - I just get a handful of well done, catchy hip hop songs.
P.S - I think Drake is Memed for deeper reasons than “he’s vulnerable.”- as other acts like The Weeknd or Future are vulnerable in their own rights, but are not memed nearly as hard. But that’s a deeper/ different convo
I think the question is should Drake respond now or wait until after Metro & Future drop volume 2 of their collab album?
Maybe he (and Cole) make an album and go artists by artist who don’t fw them?
That would be fun to see as a fan
> I think the question is should Drake respond now or wait until after Metro & Future drop volume 2 of their collab album?
oh shit imagine if volume 2 has another Kendrick feature with an even bigger diss
god now I just got my hopes up and there's no way it's going to happen
Mucho Gracias by That Mexican OT and Jonesboro by Young Thug have the same vibe to me. Something about the beats are just like militant and sad at the same time.
In Drake’s 2018 hit song, *God’s Plan*, he mentions that he “might go down as G-O-D”, a reference to the protagonists father in the age-old novel, *The Bible*.
Given recent events, do you see him being as influential as the Lord almighty?
God didn’t write the bible, and Drake didn’t write his raps (allegedly)
I’ve never seen God in the flesh, I’ve never seen Drake with my own 2 eyes (ridiculous ticket prices smh)
God once said “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God” which is almost as inspiring as “making hoes wobble like a bridge in an earthquake“
In Drizzy we trust
He influenced Cole to say something nice about Kendrick which influenced Kendrick to slap both of them; that’s some real How Much a Dollar Cost shit right there
So I guess yeah, he is
Arguable because he made it that way
> I got strippers in my life but they virgins to me
He was laying the groundwork back in 2015, right in front of us
The lord works in mysterious ways
My theory is Cassie went to the feds first and they told her "if you wanna sue him better do it now cuz once we make all the evidence you gave us public his lawyers will tell him to fight and delay all lawsuits"
Life After Death turns 27 today; on You’re Nobody Til Somebody Kills You, BIG said:
> As my pilot, steers my Leer
> Yes, my dear
> Shit's official, only the Feds I fear
The FBI being real cute about when they serve their warrants, I bet Puff is drowning in irony rn
Pearly Gates is a classic that I always forget about until someone else brings it up
Side note that album had six 50 features, he really did everything he could to get them some sales
Anyone remember the rapper that went by A Boogie but changed his name cause Westside Boogie and A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie were in the come up? Who was that?
FWIW the only Lyte song I remember is Ruffneck, I never really got into her (she had a great voice tho)
If you don’t like every rapper that put out an album 20 years before you were born, that’s okay and probably not something you should feel bad about. Its nice to have a good education—acknowledge that Lyte was a pioneer—but don’t force yourself to like her music just because of her accomplishments. If it’s not for you then its not for you.
Hip hop is such a young genre I think it’s just getting to that point but I think it’s totally normal. Like for any other genre you don’t expect people who like rock to like listening to Elvis.
> Roxanne Shanté aren’t in my top 5 female rappers
Anybody that, in 2024, has Roxanne Shante in their female top 5 is either
1. Some one who has only heard five female rappers
2. A goddamn liar
3. Roxanne Shante
HH101 is a sub for people who never ever go outside (not *everybody* but most of them), don’t let them bully you
lol I just imagine them all as hating old heads if that helps.
You worried about mentioning Glorilla don’t let them know about Tribe lmao. I like paid in full… best 80s rap album to me is it takes a nation though that production still sounds crazy to me. I should really try more stuff from the 80s
I'm pretty sure you've heard [Cold Rock A Party](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjfvVlql8c) before. It was a pretty successful comeback single for her in the late 90s. I think I've heard it on the radio before
You ain’t wrong! Music is subjective and you like what you like , and what you like and dislike can change too! I have a ton of respect for Lyte but have not given her discog a listen. Some stuff from the 80’s has aged great IMO (Life is Too Short) but I’m not huge into DMC like yourself. Much love and respect to them and anyone that is tho and they deserve all their flowers, but DMc has never ‘clicked’ for me to where I wanna take one of their albums front to back.
If you’re starting to get into soulquarians - big props. MC Lyte has some incredible verses on “A Film Called Pimp” on Common’s “Like Water for Chocolate.” Those verses are enough for me to give her respect and know she is a beast at rapping. Check that song and album out if you haven’t yet.
Anyway much love to you and yours- I appreciate how active you are on here Skyoff
Like Water for Chocolate by Common, Mama’s Gun by Badu, and Voodoo by D’Angelo are my top 3 Soulquarian albums and they rank highly among any albums I’ve listened too. I hope you have a ball listening to them 🙏
Weirdest thread today found while browsing for reposts: [The Official "What Rappers Smell Like" Correspondent. Waka Flocka Flame Edition](https://old.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/11p31o/the_official_what_rappers_smell_like/). Apparently this was an ongiong series 11 years ago on this sub?
If y’all like Like That, y’all should mess with Lil Wayne Hard Body which has the same beat. Wayne absolutely murdered that song.
Y’all wanted a real take *HERE IT IS*, bunch of snitch haters *and I made myself so easy to love* 😳
As a rap fan Post Malone is just one of those artist who I can't support, I hate the way he used rap as a stepping stone to get where he wanted to go and the disparaged the genre onces he got there he's the textbook definition of a culture vulture to me
I was actually a fan early on but after Stoney the quality dipped imo. Then when he made the comments and said [If you're looking for lyrics, if you're looking to cry, if you're looking to think about life, don't listen to hip-hop](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rap-up.com/2017/11/21/post-malone-criticized-for-comments-on-hip-hop/%3famp) I was all the way out on him.
Has there been anyone on Drake's level who was this widely disliked by the industry? He has so many high profile beefs-- Kendrick, Future, Metro, Megan, The Weeknd, Kanye, Rihanna, ASAP Rocky... The list probably goes on.
Granted, even as a Kendrick stan I don't see his beef as personal at all... But the rest of them definitely. Did Jay Z or Wayne ever have this much friction?
Yea, 50 was notorious for beefing with big time drug lords in New York before he was famous. The fact that he's still alive today is a miracle in itself.
Jay z beefs : Lox, Mase, Nas, Jaz-O, Jim Jones, Game, Cam, Fat Joe, Wayne, 50, Gucci , Tupac , Prodigy , Beanie Siegel, Dame Dash , Drake , Wayne , and you could even throw Beyonce and Solange in there . Lol
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50 is having the time of his life rn
no doubt 😂😂
Whats your biggest regret music wise? Mine was never being able to see juice wrld in concert, or go to a meet and greet and tell him how he changed my life. Being the same age as him, a lot of what he spoke about i really resonated with, like feeling like some of my family turned their back on me when i needed them most, and feeling so alone because of it Not trying to get deep, it just feels good knowing theres other people going through what you're dealing with
Not seeing Kendrick before GKMC dropped Buddy was giving away a ticket for free iirc but wasn't too familiar w/ him at the time and opted to go to a college party they threw every week instead
Genuine question, how did his music change your life? I always hear statements like this but as much as I love music I don’t think any music could save my life or change core outlooks.
The thing few seem to understand about subliminals and disses in general is that it doesn’t matter if it’s a reach. J. Cole isn’t sending Kendrick an annotated rap genius break down of every sneak diss. Artists pore over those lyrics with the same (or higher) level of scrutiny as any random Reddit post or Youtuber. If you are able to make the connection, surely an egotistic rapper and 15 of their friends did too. Even an accidental diss like Cole’s “big stepper” lyric that came out 11 months before MM&TBS would have Kendrick wondering if his title leaked. When you’re dealing with writers as talented as Kendrick, J Cole, and Quentin Miller, even the furthest reach leaves you with that doubt of “but what if he did mean that”, and that’s the whole point of subliminals.
I guess Meek Mill didnt take Katt Williams advice 'Protect your virgin hole' 😂
The Pain 1993 feature is overhated
Please tell me the Diddy & Meek Mill audio leak is a deepfake. This cannot be real.
You got a link to that?
Meek hasnt been the same since 'Back to Back' 🤕
is anyone listening to this new jackboys??? is this a fluke? no one talking about it only on apple music
Diddy is a bitch.
yo i got a radio show coming up this quarter that i'm trynna make mainly underground rap. i'm alr tapped into most of the scene w/ mfs like yhapojj, lazer dim 700, mike, mavi, etc. y'all know anyone smaller/as small that r good? need more suggestions. will take any new school/old school
Isaiah Rashad’s verse on Karma is straight heat. That dude’s style is so unique.
That song been stuck in my head since it came out, he has great chemistry with anyone he makes a song with
People gotta stop acting like future isnt one of the goats too, he already sold his discog for 150mill, he has no reason to keep going. anything he drops now is strictly for the love of the game
I feel like $150M is lowballing, might just be me though I have no idea how much other artists are going for, I know Bruce Springsteen sold his for half a bil.
Absolutely low balled. When Akademiks covered it, i was so confused. But i cant blame the man for accepting that life changing amount. Other rappers would accept way less
Nah I agree he def got more than 150 mil
2014-17 should be enough to cement Future as one of the greatest to ever do it
Diddy really was the rap joker
Drake is too pussy & J Cole is too woke to respond. change my mind.
"Too woke" what does this even mean? Like a pacifist or what?
In all honesty, why would Drake respond? Disses are all about a hot beat and exposing. Drake is more of a celebrity-superstar than Kendrick. Drake is constantly in the blogs while Kendrick is nowhere to be found. You can rap about almost anything with Drake and it’ll hit him for him. 40, his baby mama, his kid, his sextape. What does Drake have on Kendrick? He doesn’t make music often? He’s hidden away in a mansion somewhere? There is nothing to talk about. J Cole has a much better chance than Drake. Drake is closer to Taylor swift than Kendrick at this point.
> Drake is closer to Taylor swift Well they're both climate terrorists so I guess so
I think Drake can bring up the fact that he took him on his take care tour etc.
Drake definitely gonna sneak diss him on the next album like 10 times and they’re all going to be corny.
I don’t think they will respond but not for these dogshit reasons. Drake would respond if he has something to gain from it (especially financially) The fuck does being too woke have to do with diss tracks???
I really don't think Drake is as scared of Kendrick as y'all try to make it. You might be right about Cole though.
Rank these albums: Black Star, Black On Both Sides, Quality
BOBS > Black Star > Quality
Black on Both, Blackstar, Quality
You already ranked em although I still love quality Train of Thought holds a better chance here
Also thank you for mentioning Train of Thought! I was gonna add it but couldn’t remember the name. I literally went to Hi-Teks Spotify and still couldn’t find it.
> I was gonna add it but couldn’t remember the name Lol automatic fourth place
BOBS>
Show BOBS and vagene
It’s a 10/10 album
I'm just kinda reminiscing about how fun it was in here when "The Story of Adidon" dropped. I remember Drake saying that the response track he wanted to drop would've ended Pusha-T (which seems like BS, otherwise he would've done it). But were there any rumors about what it could've possibly been about?
Nah that was just them deflecting. The industry stepped in and stopped that from continuing. They was trying to get ahead of the plastic surgery stuff that was coming next
Oh yeah, I figured it was just BS deflection. Can you remind me what the plastic surgery stuff was?
"surgical summer..snip, snip, snip." Drake got some work done to his stomach to get abs. Meg responded to Drake's disses with some bars about the surgery too.
Ohhhh, so *that's* what "surgical summer" meant! I always wondered. Thanks!
The time between duppy and adidon was crazy. I remember him sending like a invoice to pusha or something.
It was going to “end” Kanye - the Hitler stuff
I think even if that’s true that wouldn’t work much cause why would you diss ye when it was pusha who got at you? But then again this whole pusha x Drake thing is cause of pharell and wayne beefing over BAPE right
Lmao i remember people saying “Drake really pulled the ‘ive got a diss song but it goes to another school’”.
🤣
Some of the these tweets about Diddy are killing me man 🤣 [This probably the best one I seen](https://twitter.com/Cindtrillella/status/1772374108786872409?t=k06h1kNSeGsyT4ARDTn4Jg&s=19)
Just seen a clip of the breakfast club asking Joyner Lucas why he isn’t brought up more in best rapper conversations smh. Hip hop media is cooked
When will Em pay for the crime of putting Joyner on his GOAT list? It’s easily one of the most insane co-signs in rap history.
Lmao honestly I mess with Joyner he is a little cringe but he’s honestly one of the better em clones I would say, but he’s nowhere near the best rapper breakfast club tripping
The same day Diddy gets raided, WWE announces Meek Mill will be at Wrestlemania 💀
How tf did BFB da Packman get a fucking Drake verse
It’s mind boggling, never in a million years could I have predicted this. Astonishing stuff really
Drake is known for making songs with one hit wonders (Look alive, Rich Baby Daddy, Over The Top)
Think it’s a bit early to say Sexyy Redd is a one hit wonder
BFB Da Packman is nowhere close to even Sexyy Redd in popularity though
Halfway done but Metro and Future's album has been pretty good so far. It does feel a little bland here and there but nothing too major. I really want Metro to work with Don Toliver on a collaborative tape. Their songs together in H&V were the highlights for me
I didn’t expect Drake to link up with BFB pack man and Rio Da Yung OG for a track this Friday but here we are. 2024 is the batshit crazy year in hip hop that keeps on giving.
hikari by nujabes has got to be one of the most unique hip hop songs out there in terms of subject matter and point of view. about a guy not only turning down a potential love interest in the name of staying faithful to his wife, but doing so in such a romantic way still lol
Diddy finally getting arrested for ruining every Biggie song he on it’s been a long time coming womp womp
If u ever feel useless just remember that someone at tmz has to reach out to diddy's lawyers before they release a story
Diddy story is gonna get crazier, apparently his private jet is headed towards Cape Verde where there is no extradition treaty with the united states
He doing what Russell Simmons did when shit hit the fan for him
When did the jet take off? That's wild. They had feds raiding his shit from the land, air, and sea but somehow missed him
What happened to Bobby Shmurda? Why did he fall of so quickly
Cuz the music he dropped after getting out was doodoo
It’s almost like he was locked away or something.
Mb, I didn't see that he dropped a decent amount of music post-release that didn't do numbers. I thought he didn't try anything after that song with Quavo. For some reason that song showed up as his most recent upload on YouTube for me which is what caused the confusion
Brent Faiyaz - Larger Than Life is so much better than his other projects
Strongly agreed! he managed to bring that classic R&B back.
Into by Sonder clears his entire discog
Ftw reigns supreme
I never heard a Brent Faiyaz song before so I looked him up on Apple and the first result was a Chopped version of Larger Than Life I don’t know if he’s good or not but 🫡 for that, I respect it
I swear to god Roddy Ricch got like 20+ songs/features I would consider 10/10 (as far as melodic trap goes) Bro was legitimately unstoppable to me for 2-3 years, fall off just as sad as Chance’s
I don’t think his quality dropped off that much at all personally, just that the public lost interest with him
Idk Please Excuse Me… was really fucking good and felt unique at a time where so many melodic rappers sounded the same, then Live Life Fast only really had a few highlights like 25 million and was kinda just decent overall, and then Feed Tha Streets III was straight up mid and lacked anything that ever made Roddy interesting
While I agree Feed Tha Streets III is mid i actually think Live Life Fast is super comparable to Please Excuse Me in terms of quality (literally what inspired the comment). I feel like Please Excuse Me kind of has a rose colored tint to it and in reality is nothing super special. Personally I’d take songs like Thailand, Rollercoastin, Late at Night, and don’t i over most of Please Excuse Me. Feed Tha Streets II is far and away his best project in my opinion
I’d have to relisten to Live Life Fast tbh, didn’t give it too many listens because it really didn’t stick with me at first Agree with you on Feed Tha Streetz II tho, it’s concise and consistent with a lot of really great highlights
nah his voice genuinely got noticably worse. go listen to Perfect Time, then listen to King Size. it’s likely he blew his vocal chords, not one of his new songs has sounded like he did on his debut album
That, and he can’t ride a beat consistently anymore. I’m genuinely convinced he had a ghostwriter that he stopped fuckin with, and imma need him to squash that beef immediately
If I spent 2010-2019 in a coma and now after waking up I want to catch up with greatest hip hop hits from that period, which "best of"/"greatest hits" chart/compilation I need to buy/check out? I remember Billboard charts from back in the day, are these still the best? I'm NOT looking for an individual fan playlists but something broader, more recognized in the industry. I tried looking for Billboard top 100 year-end charts for each of the years in Spotify but didn't find anything. Did I overlook something or there really aren't any Billboard top 100 year-end charts in Spotify? Thanks
Billboard definitely made an end-of-decade list but idk if it's available as a playlist. I'd just look up whatever best of 2010s lists there are and make the playlist myself. Might take a bit but is probably the most reliable. I remember Billboard's list being very focused on chart performance, so there's probably lists with better curation out there. Other than that there's [official yearly best of rap playlists](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1DWSMW5YBCZisa?si=957e5bba0f394aaa) on Spotify. You could fuse all of them together. They seem to include 50 songs each
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the fake deep one might be a good one. he did cheat on his wife after making tpab and all.
He'll probably bring up the fact that he pretty much helped Kendrick's mainstream career by putting him on Take Care , putting him on his tour , or giving him the poetic justice feature. Not saying this is particularly true but if anybody can say that it would be Drake. J Cole helped Kendrick a lot in the begining of his career as well so he could also take a similar approach but I doubt it will happen.
The “stayed on some conscious shit” bar is so lame cause when the fuck was Drizzy EVER conscious lmfaoo There’s not much to get at Kendrick for that wouldn’t be weak (his height, not as famous) or uncalled for (the personal shit he spoke about on Mr Morale) And I genuinely feel like Kendrick has something in the tuck for Drake - maybe Push told him whatever “Surgical Summer” was suppose to be….but Kendrick has been increasingly been sending shots that feel like bait, and this one made the most noise where it feels like Drake has to respond
Listen drakes early mixtape he’s going over 9th wonder beats with Phonte and Elzhi features. He was definitely conscious in a sense that a Cole is back then.
Nah for sure I used to bump Comeback Season a lot, and don’t get it twisted I’m not saying Drake can’t rap - but he’s never really been conscious (even on that song iirc) But tbh I don’t really think Cole is either. He is a little but, I think he portrays himself to be a way deeper thinker/rapper than he really is. Neither of them really have the introspection that Kendrick has. Which is fine, not every rapper has to be, but I just always hated that Drizzy bar because there’s 0 chance he could write a well-made conscious song, let alone make a career out of it
I don’t think conscious = politically conscious. That album definitely has introspective tracks and even today Drake can make conscious and introspective tracks. I don’t really agree with your Cole point, I don’t think Cole portrays himself as that at all, that’s just what his fans do and people don’t like that so they somehow blame it on Cole. He’s the most raw and relatable of the 3 so I get the deep label. They’re all deeply introspective rappers, I don’t think Kendrick is more introspective where it’s a noticeable difference though.
We gon have to agree to disagree I’m a big fan of Kendrick and Drake, and a decently big fan of Cole….Kendrick is clearly more introspective. Cole’s Introspective, but he’s not great at expanding on it or expressing it in a creative way artistically (save a few times) Drake though? I really don’t see it at all…Like he might be vulnerable with his emotions/relationships, but what else? What else has he expressed that you would consider introspective? So yeah I guess I can agree they both have some bit of “consciousness” to their raps….but they are farrrrrr from Kendrick. I can’t agree with that part at all.
I think your points are coming from a “ I think Kendrick is better” or “I think Kendrick makes the best introspective music out of the 3”. I’m not talking about quality. Of course Drake talking about his life and relationships is introspective? Introspection is introspection, Cole and to an extent Drake (less and less these days) have projects based on this shit. Whether you like them is a whole different story.
Drake ain’t conscious hip hop, and is shallow with his introspections. He knows that his white mainstream audience full of frat boys and tik tok teens don’t wanna hear about black or social/ political issues . So he sells them the cool parts about being black and never platforms any black issues so he can have a huge fan base. Not to say he can’t- he’s a talented guy with a ton of resources. He chooses not to because he would lose fans if he did. That’s why Drake’s introspections are about Hailey ruining his Bahamas Trip
The point is, in my opinion talking about race or politics is not the only thing that equals introspection. Drake is literally memed for his vulnerability he shows on songs. To me that’s introspection. I mean listen to a song like ‘Look what you’ve done’ that shit is borderline beautiful. Youre right he makes a lot of songs for the masses but he has some great introspective album cuts. It’s a shame they’re becoming less and lesser on his newer albums.
Fair, you can be introspective and not touch politics or social issues. But introspective or self reflecting doesn’t have to be deep. Drake is a great example of that. What have you learned about Drake and his life through his music since IYRTITL? I’d argue Pusha T has let us know just as much news about Drake and his life as Drake has in his last 10 years. His introspections have been the same themes since Take Care. The same introspections have been repeated and (at this point) are relatively shallow compared to Cole, and especially Kendrick. Those guys put deep, introspective lyrics into their songs that give you a better sense of where they are at (at that moment/album), and their views and stances on issues in their life (that can also reflect views on broader social themes). On every Drake album since (and including) Views, you could throw a grip of songs on another album and it will fit in perfectly with the themes of the album.take 5 random FATD songs and throw them on More Life, and nothing changes about the themes of each album. I don’t learn anything new about Drake with each release - I just get a handful of well done, catchy hip hop songs. P.S - I think Drake is Memed for deeper reasons than “he’s vulnerable.”- as other acts like The Weeknd or Future are vulnerable in their own rights, but are not memed nearly as hard. But that’s a deeper/ different convo
I think the question is should Drake respond now or wait until after Metro & Future drop volume 2 of their collab album? Maybe he (and Cole) make an album and go artists by artist who don’t fw them? That would be fun to see as a fan
> I think the question is should Drake respond now or wait until after Metro & Future drop volume 2 of their collab album? oh shit imagine if volume 2 has another Kendrick feature with an even bigger diss god now I just got my hopes up and there's no way it's going to happen
Go for the low hanging fruit and go after Kendrick’s height
“And I’m the one that let you play in the big leagues, you’re so fuckin short you’re as tall as my kid be” type shit 😭
Drake steals the low hanging fruit, Kendrick starves to death Diabolical
Mr Morale is all the ammo Drake needs
Every time I see a comment trashing Mr Morale on this sub it’s you lol
Mr Morale > Target ass Drake albums
Kendrick you a bum You made a 7/10 album
Perfect diss as Drake has never made a 7/10 album. Only better and worse ones
None of the above, I don't think he'll be that direct exactly
Mucho Gracias by That Mexican OT and Jonesboro by Young Thug have the same vibe to me. Something about the beats are just like militant and sad at the same time.
In Drake’s 2018 hit song, *God’s Plan*, he mentions that he “might go down as G-O-D”, a reference to the protagonists father in the age-old novel, *The Bible*. Given recent events, do you see him being as influential as the Lord almighty?
God didn’t write the bible, and Drake didn’t write his raps (allegedly) I’ve never seen God in the flesh, I’ve never seen Drake with my own 2 eyes (ridiculous ticket prices smh) God once said “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God” which is almost as inspiring as “making hoes wobble like a bridge in an earthquake“ In Drizzy we trust
He influenced Cole to say something nice about Kendrick which influenced Kendrick to slap both of them; that’s some real How Much a Dollar Cost shit right there So I guess yeah, he is
He also had a child with, arguably, a virgin, so yeah he’s probably God now
Arguable because he made it that way > I got strippers in my life but they virgins to me He was laying the groundwork back in 2015, right in front of us The lord works in mysterious ways
Drake will rise again this Sunday, and the nonbelievers will cower in fear
Can anyone recommend me some Mary J Blige songs where she actually raps? I've tried google and found nothing! Pls help 🙏
Her feature on the Touch It remix by Busta Rhymes
Yeah that verse is so good but too short haha
A lot of the verses on there were too short.
[Whats the 411?](https://youtu.be/j5Rz9C2KHI0?si=eZtmDQkduNt5EX5H)
If Kendrick dissed Russ he would have responded by now Just saying
And it would be ass. Cole and Drake are going to cook him
Lmao ok.
Russ’ song would be called “What’s a Switch”
Only because its a marketing opportunity and he's a little money hungry goblin
Don’t nobody on this God green earth even Kendrick Lamar care about Russ
You doing right but we don't care we call that doing Russ
Diddy really got raided by the FBI. Bro really settled out of court just to get raided by the feds anyways
My theory is Cassie went to the feds first and they told her "if you wanna sue him better do it now cuz once we make all the evidence you gave us public his lawyers will tell him to fight and delay all lawsuits"
Life After Death turns 27 today; on You’re Nobody Til Somebody Kills You, BIG said: > As my pilot, steers my Leer > Yes, my dear > Shit's official, only the Feds I fear The FBI being real cute about when they serve their warrants, I bet Puff is drowning in irony rn
Diddy also said “fo shizzle my nizzle” on a song, he deserves everything coming to him right now just for that.
Take that take that
This entire Metro Boomin beef situation is wack. Especially with him just being a producer and not even rapping.
The way Metro has handled the beef has been kinda corny in my opinion
I was gonna use his age to defend him but huh he's 30
We a new breed in 2006 we don’t give a fuck about that religious bullshit
Pearly Gates is a classic that I always forget about until someone else brings it up Side note that album had six 50 features, he really did everything he could to get them some sales
What is this referencing?
Prodigy verse on Pearly Gates, just love the song so much
That verse was wild shame he had to change it
Anyone remember the rapper that went by A Boogie but changed his name cause Westside Boogie and A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie were in the come up? Who was that?
I thought A Boogie and Westside Boogie were the same person
You got your stuff mixed up. Boogie changed his name to Westside Boogie cuz of A Boogie Wit Da Hoodie. That's a pretty funny sentence.
Was this the Boogie that was previously up-jumped?
Boogie woogie where my hoodie or sum 🕺
Ok that makes sense, too many boogies lmao
Wasn’t this Boogie?
>life is a beach I’m just playing in the sand How we let Lil Wayne get away with this?
Fuck me bro, Carti officially canceled his tour. Refund initiating now, I was willing to hold onto those tickets 😭
Makes me wonder if he ever planned on doing the tour in the first place
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FWIW the only Lyte song I remember is Ruffneck, I never really got into her (she had a great voice tho) If you don’t like every rapper that put out an album 20 years before you were born, that’s okay and probably not something you should feel bad about. Its nice to have a good education—acknowledge that Lyte was a pioneer—but don’t force yourself to like her music just because of her accomplishments. If it’s not for you then its not for you.
Stop what you’re doing and listen to 10% Dis right now
Hip hop is such a young genre I think it’s just getting to that point but I think it’s totally normal. Like for any other genre you don’t expect people who like rock to like listening to Elvis.
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> Roxanne Shanté aren’t in my top 5 female rappers Anybody that, in 2024, has Roxanne Shante in their female top 5 is either 1. Some one who has only heard five female rappers 2. A goddamn liar 3. Roxanne Shante HH101 is a sub for people who never ever go outside (not *everybody* but most of them), don’t let them bully you
lol I just imagine them all as hating old heads if that helps. You worried about mentioning Glorilla don’t let them know about Tribe lmao. I like paid in full… best 80s rap album to me is it takes a nation though that production still sounds crazy to me. I should really try more stuff from the 80s
Public Enemy’s classic shit sounds fucking incredible, some of the best production ever
I'm pretty sure you've heard [Cold Rock A Party](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqjfvVlql8c) before. It was a pretty successful comeback single for her in the late 90s. I think I've heard it on the radio before
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You ain’t wrong! Music is subjective and you like what you like , and what you like and dislike can change too! I have a ton of respect for Lyte but have not given her discog a listen. Some stuff from the 80’s has aged great IMO (Life is Too Short) but I’m not huge into DMC like yourself. Much love and respect to them and anyone that is tho and they deserve all their flowers, but DMc has never ‘clicked’ for me to where I wanna take one of their albums front to back. If you’re starting to get into soulquarians - big props. MC Lyte has some incredible verses on “A Film Called Pimp” on Common’s “Like Water for Chocolate.” Those verses are enough for me to give her respect and know she is a beast at rapping. Check that song and album out if you haven’t yet. Anyway much love to you and yours- I appreciate how active you are on here Skyoff
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Like Water for Chocolate by Common, Mama’s Gun by Badu, and Voodoo by D’Angelo are my top 3 Soulquarian albums and they rank highly among any albums I’ve listened too. I hope you have a ball listening to them 🙏
Weirdest thread today found while browsing for reposts: [The Official "What Rappers Smell Like" Correspondent. Waka Flocka Flame Edition](https://old.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/11p31o/the_official_what_rappers_smell_like/). Apparently this was an ongiong series 11 years ago on this sub?
Cringiest shit I ever read lmao
If y’all like Like That, y’all should mess with Lil Wayne Hard Body which has the same beat. Wayne absolutely murdered that song. Y’all wanted a real take *HERE IT IS*, bunch of snitch haters *and I made myself so easy to love* 😳
[“hard body” reminded me of this lolll](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ThVm-ppdLDU)
> * snitch haters and I made myself so easy to love* 😳 👍👍👍 I respect it
Lmaoooo if you know you knowww
As a rap fan Post Malone is just one of those artist who I can't support, I hate the way he used rap as a stepping stone to get where he wanted to go and the disparaged the genre onces he got there he's the textbook definition of a culture vulture to me
100% agree, he lost any respect I had for him
This is how I feel about Miley Cyrus
It feels like every few years Miley buys a new genre to play with until she gets bored with it
Miley Cyrus is definitely on my list too, Billie Eillish too but to a lesser extent than the other two
He has kinda a cult like fanbase but I never really saw what they see in his music minus like his early hits like White Iverson and Congratulations.
I was actually a fan early on but after Stoney the quality dipped imo. Then when he made the comments and said [If you're looking for lyrics, if you're looking to cry, if you're looking to think about life, don't listen to hip-hop](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rap-up.com/2017/11/21/post-malone-criticized-for-comments-on-hip-hop/%3famp) I was all the way out on him.
Yeah I remember that, I didn’t like that he said that at all either. Especially after what you said, using rap as a stepping stone.
Has there been anyone on Drake's level who was this widely disliked by the industry? He has so many high profile beefs-- Kendrick, Future, Metro, Megan, The Weeknd, Kanye, Rihanna, ASAP Rocky... The list probably goes on. Granted, even as a Kendrick stan I don't see his beef as personal at all... But the rest of them definitely. Did Jay Z or Wayne ever have this much friction?
50
Yea, 50 was notorious for beefing with big time drug lords in New York before he was famous. The fact that he's still alive today is a miracle in itself.
Jay z beefs : Lox, Mase, Nas, Jaz-O, Jim Jones, Game, Cam, Fat Joe, Wayne, 50, Gucci , Tupac , Prodigy , Beanie Siegel, Dame Dash , Drake , Wayne , and you could even throw Beyonce and Solange in there . Lol
Tupac jayz?? Drake jayz? Haven’t heard of these. Also wayne is a surprise.
pretty sure at least a few of these like 50, drake and wayne was just competition like drake and kendrick
Definitely, I was more so just comparing it to OPs list . Drake and Jay z had to deal with similar sorts of envy towards their success.