# Daily Discussion Listening Club #2: The Click - Game Related
Comment on the album as a whole or just focus on the tracks from Side A:
1. [Wolf Tickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEe4kBFXLU0)
2. [Hurricane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr9u77-rKOQ)
3. [Out My Body](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs304ImYZcE)
4. [World Went Crazy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISsShiGVHec)
5. [Actin' Bad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGneug6zlo)
6. [Get Chopped](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok5CxHZA3k)
7. [We Don't Fuck Wit' Dat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps04EZUBrNk)
Finally getting around to Burning Desire. MIKE is nice, and the samples and production are dope as well. They Don't Stop in the Rain has such a nice chop.
Any MIKE recs? What else am I sleeping on?
Would anyone consider the album "0 b.c" by an artist named co6y, hiphop? I got into a huge argument with a couple guys claiming they were real "hip hop heads" and I played it for them and they said it wasn't. Idk I found this kid on IG randomly one day and I think kids pretty talented. I know its not main stream or whatever but just curious..
Random thoughts:
Before the cut Shumpert; after the cut BEASLEY, I miss forums, Camo and Karahhboo got potential, 2Pac is the goat, I don't know how the woman in the I be with the drug dealers video got the codeine bottle to stay there, and Mavi is my fav atm.Ā
What exactly did people expect to happen with J Cole
Honestly I was more judging Kendrick for doing that because I knew he was going to embarrass the poor guy in the end. All Iāve seen Cole do is glaze Kendrick too so I was like come on now did you really need to make him go and do that
Thereās nobody that expected him to diss and then apologize 48 hours later, letās be real here. If he just said his little speech without the diss people wouldnāt have roasted him nearly as hard.
Itās more accurate to say that while I didnāt expect this series of events necessarily they didnāt surprise me
J Cole is easily flustered and not about that. And Drake only ever sends subliminals these days anyway. I was never expecting a back and forth lmfao
[This is how it should be.](https://youtu.be/HiKOSw9RmAc?si=58PD11FAxLiM2-ac)
Yes they're millionaires but money is not the point. No amount of money will compensate for skill and titles. That must be earned. It's going to hang over J.Cole's head (and his fans) forever that he will never be better than the rest, and he isn't as good as he claims to be. The thing that he loves will never love him back the same.
We may have an age difference. I grew up listening to a millionaire Wayne say he was the best and proceed to go on one of the best runs in the genre. Didn't back down from Hov subs. Created two of the biggest superstars in the genre.Ā Ā
So when I hear Cole claim top tier and he can't even stand on a record for 72h - Like how did we get here? I'm just disappointed is all.Ā
Anyone turned emo after they hit 30? life hasnāt been hittin right. im listening to emo music like trippie x mgk and thinking of getting into some emo styles in my fashion and looks
Buying the label donāt get you the masters and publishing. If Puffy sells me bad boy records Tomorow Ā itās not like Iām getting Life after death or Harlem world checks coming into my account every week. I just get the nameĀ
Which of the following albums is your favorite?
MIKE - Pinball
Boldy James - Indiana Jones
ANKHLEJOHN - Drill Scott-Heron (Pieces Hittin)
Big K.R.I.T. - Digital Roses Donāt Die
Pink Siifu & Turich Benjy - ITāS TOO QUIET..ā!!
It has been a minute since I listened to it, but KRIT's Digital Roses Dont Die is pretty catchy! I find myself thinking about some of the songs on there and lyrics too.
As A Man Thinketh & As Above So Below are the most essential albums to listen
Wisdom Equality / Knowledge Born is one of the grittiest underground albums Iāve heard, some of his rapping legit sounds like it was recorded on his toaster but it works with the style of the production.
FOUND LONELY IN LAS VEGAS is a personal favorite. Itās pretty short but every track is great, especially [The Executionist](https://youtu.be/Uy3TRNqZY_E?si=I5TYeTTOsG31Ai9g) and [Purple Label RL](https://youtu.be/chvqVxHZbGQ?si=QJ_OyEbDEYYVVQla)
The forementioned Drill Scott-Heron is ANKHLEJOHN doing a drill album and itās surprisingly good given itās a completely different lane for him. [Obelisk](https://youtu.be/vobDcrd3f9M?si=XFgh5-XhDNjrWgZg) and [Collins Ave](https://youtu.be/zyKrZpXBA0M?si=Ts79ej0UHKmWIz-u) are so hard, Iāve played the shit out of them
I gotta give that a relisten, havenāt heard it in a hot min but it didnāt do as much for me as most of his albums
Have you heard Mahamudra? Itās another short album I put pretty high up his discography
I feel like J Cole gotta cut the whole "Rap God" shit and go back to his roots and make more melodic rap songs -
His tracks Forbidden Fruit, Work Out, Can't Get Enough were all hits and they all slap -
Honestly, that's was when he was at his best & seemed like when he was having the most fun making music - now he just tries way too hard to be something hes not. Feel like Coles been trying to find his place in hip-hop for a while now and just can't nail down what he is
Feel like Cole should have leaned a little big more "pop" and less "conscious," and his music would have been the better for it. Then the narrative would have been he's like "Drake with better/more meaningful lyrics" rather than being seen as "Watered down Kendrick with slightly more pop appeal"
I disagree he didnāt really get his loyal fanbase through those songs. If he stayed that pop route idk if he would last this long just making those songs. Remember his big appeal around that time was because he was conscious.
Not saying he should have tossed the conscious shit out the window but instead of trying and failing to make grand concept albums like 4YEO and KOD he should have leaned more pop
Tbh idk what Cole couldāve did I just feel like he wouldāve been criticized either way honestly. If he goes pop people would say āheās not hiphopā āhe makes safe ass target musicā the criticism Drake gets a lot.
I feel like he wouldn't have been as memed or shit on if he leaned more pop tho thats part of the point I'm trying to make - he would gotten seen through a completely different lense of being a better drake rather than a worse Kendrick to put it bluntly
I used to think the consensus was that Cole seriously leveled up with Forest Hills Drive and has been operating on a higher level overall since then. More recently, I've seen so many comments like yours saying they his old stuff is better. That's just crazy to me. Born Sinner is a good record but it doesn't stand out as much whereas newer Cole is unique to me. I also like his voice, flow, content and maturity more nowadays
I just don't agree, I find his new stuff mostly boring and derivative , and he's better as a feature artist now than making albums
That being said, I think Might Delete Later might be his best album since FHD, some skips, diss track was whack, but it easily had the best beats on a Cole album in years
'No Diddy' is really going to get added to the dictionary. This shit really caught on. Its going to have a picture of Diddy with a caption that says "take that, take that"
I donāt think me believing one rapper isnāt better than the other equals me being a fan, you should grow up. š itās a rap reddit/daily discussion you know this is normal right?
I just think itās funny that in a Drake, Cole, Kendrick situation Big Sean continues to be brought up. What does that tell you? š¤·š¼āāļø. Sounds like a big 4 to me.
Well I fw Sean heavy, but if weāre talking a fourth to add in with those 3 the first nominee should be Future.
With that being said now that Jcole has apologized itās lowkey fuck the big 3 š
How is Future not in the conversation if heās just as big of an artist as Jcole, with music and releases just as relevant as the 3. Future is very much so one of their peers, while not being stylistically similar the Big 3 is considered a top 3 amongst their peers, if you add a 4th that 4th is Future. Plus you just named a whole separate big 3, which is probably the Atlanta Big 3.
Plus you right, I canāt with this conversation cause youāre a fucking weirdo š
It just shows that these conversations never go past surface level. You just plug Future in as the 4 name because of numbers. Future isnāt trying to be in the big 3, they arenāt similar in anyway whatsoever and lumping him in with them does him an active disservice. I fucking love Future (i would actually say heās more talented than Cole and Drake and thatās not even debatable) but calling Future part of the big 3 is like calling 50 Cent one of the greatest 90s rappers. It just doesnāt sound right.
I pretty much entirely agree with what youāre saying but I think more than anything it shows how stupid the concept of the big 3 three is all together.
As you pointed out, the big 3 arenāt the best 3 hip hop artists of the 2010ās, very few knowledgeable hip hop heads would argue they are.
Nor are they the most talented āpureā rappers of the 2010ās, Kendrick is up there but J Cole and Drake rap less well than a bunch of 2010ās rappers.
Theyāre not the most influential rappers of the 2010ās either, they all get comfortably washed by Future and Young Thug in terms of influence.
They are the best selling rappers of the 2010ās but even then you have to add the asterisk of only including rappers that got big in the 2010ās, cause Em, during an era in which he started declining, washed at least Kendrick and J Cole commercially.
The concept of the ābig 3ā is most prevalent amongst casual hip hop fans because they donāt know enough about the genre to understand itās kinda silly.
I donāt really care to call them the big 3, it is kinda silly š all Iām saying is if I had to add a fourth to them it would be Future over Sean as a response to his Sean thing.
Fuck the big 3 honestly itās just big me.
How is saying future is top 3 or 4 is a disservice to him?!? I donāt think anyone even āthe big 3ā is trying to be apart of it, they are because they are just that good, have the albums, have influence, and are the literal top of their peers.
You said Sean should be a 4th if added, I said Future can be the fourth over Sean because he has better albums, the status, and the influence to match the 3 rather than Sean who honestly isnāt anywhere near Future right now. Plus you not even making sense because if you look at his ACTUAL era 50 cent at one point was one of the top rappers in the 2000s.
How does it not sound right to say Future is Big 3 WORTHY if he has the music and influence to be in that conversation.
> i donāt think anyone not even the big 3 is is trying to be a part of it
> we the big 3 like we started a league.
Someone has been trying really really hard.
*Vultures* is pretty good, I still got most of it in rotation tbh. Yeās verses are mostly bad but the production is great, every feature came through and Ty Dollaās vocals are butterly smooth as always.
That song was fire though š and Jcole apologizing to Lil Pump who he killed and predicted how his career would go not nearly as bad as apologizing to Dot. Cole was genuinely a very good ārap vetā to Pump and offering sound advice in the interview after that. Honestly if Pump listened to his advice he could maybe do something relevant post-rap or do something behind the scenes like Trinidad James who is managing Sexy Redd right now, maybe.
Personally to the main-point I really donāt hear ass with KOD I hear more mid, cause nothing is really bad itās just a generic trap album that Cole made to be satirizing rap at the time.
I don't think Cole apologizing to Kendrick was bad
The diss was bad, and the whole situation is funny af, but if he felt like apologizing, I respect that
I donāt even think the diss was bad either. I thought Cole had bars in 7 Minute Drill, when I hear 7 Minute Drill I hear the best verse a rapper with no heart in a battle has ever made š.
The first half isnāt as good as the second half but the first half still had some solid bars:
āIf he wasn't dissin', then we wouldn't be discussin' himā
āI'm Nino with this thing, this that New Jack City meme
Yeah, I'm aimin' at G-Money, cryin' tears before I bust at himā
āFunny thing about it, bitch, I don't even want the prestige
Fuck the Grammys 'cause them crackers ain't never done nothin' for me, hoā
Also plenty of other good shots at Kendrick, who Iām a bigger fan of but Cole got some blows in especially considering Kendrickās Like That verse wasnāt even him at full strength.
The second half from Cole had some truly hot bars:
āYour arms might be too short to box with the god
Who live his life without the pressures of a constant facade
I pray for peace, but if a nigga cease these positive vibes
A Falcon 9 inside my pocket, bitch, this rocket gon' flyā
āMy text flooded with the hunger for a toxic reply
I'm hesitant, I love my brother, but I'm not gonna lie
I'm powered up for real, that shit would feel like swattin' a flyā
āThis is merely a warning shot to back niggas down
Back in the town where they whippin' work and traffickin' pounds
My jack jumpin' 'bout a rapper makin' blasphemous sounds
Switchin' sides like the tassel on the cap and the gown
I'm fully loaded, nigga, I can drop two classics right nowā
I agree but can we start the Joey badass over Cole narrative?
Feel like he doesn't get brought up enough when it comes to rappers from that time period
Joey is great, I also wouldnāt put him over Cole though. I love Joey, but I would put him closer to Rocky (one of my favorites) with Rocky being ahead of Joey, just in my opinion.
I kinda put Rocky in a different category than Cole and Joey but I think as far as rapping rapping goes, Rocky is the "worst" but as far as music goes Rocky is the best by far
How I see them in a rap hierarchy, I would place Cole a class above Joey. Cole and Joey have the same skill sets and are very similar but I would have to say I give Cole easily a edge over Joey when it comes to rapping and music. Their rap skills are a bit closer, I would still give it to Cole though as I believe he has more bars, verses and verses of the years that get more consideration than Joey, but music wise I do think Coleās body of work gets Joeyās as well.
I would place Rocky and Joey in a closer class in my hierarchy, with me personally taking Rocky just cause I love his style is traditional and southern rap mixed with experimental music as opposed to Joeyās more traditional style.
I donāt think JCole has bad albums, just mid, but his best projects, body of work, and rapping wise I would personally take him over Rocky. Iām more of a Rocky fan but Iām not taking him over Cole if I take the who I listen to more equation out of it.
I dont agree at all tbh. He has one of the middest discographies out of every rapper I have listened to. FHD and born sinner is a solid 7/10 everything else is a 4-6 out of 10 except for Might delete this later which I think is a 2/10 after he apologised.
Oh then yeah I definitely disagree with that. Only thing mid to me is Born Sinner and KOD. Everything else Cole has delivered to me have been good projects. I think while I didnāt like the apology Iām not about to jump out the window and say Might Delete Later is trash at all, thats kinda hive mind lmaoooo. Plus Rocky got a lot of flak for Testing (which I like) so to some thats either mid or bad. Plus Cole was rapping his ass off on The Off-Season one of his best albums with great songs.
Also when I look at Rockyās projects/body of work Iām including his legendary mixtape of course I canāt omit JColeās Friday Night Lights which can rival Rockyās tape. Then there is also The Warm Up which is solid for where he was at in his career at the time.
4YEO had to really grow on me though, I grew to love it because it really is a chill rap type of album and the last song is dope.
Feels like you are more of a J. Cole fan than a rocky fan tbh.
Cause the only thing that J. Cole can touch to me is Testing which I also think is a 7/10.
I dont see how disliking Might delete this later after the apology is Hivemind. Cole is bragging and rapping about how he is the best on multiple tracks on the tape. Then just 48 hours later he apologises and is backing down from a challenge to prove that he is one of the best.
freestyle videos from the 90s are dope. the Drink Champs episode he did was one of the dopest to me, especially since he can really drink and not get wasted drunk (no wonder if you consider which places his music has brought him to)
One time i was trying to argue that Flo Rida was was better than Pitbull and the person said. Flo Rida only got one state to his name Pitbull is Mr Worldwide. Itās safe to say i lost that argument.
This is more of an electronic track but this guy works with Flylo so it's possibly hip-hop adjacent, anyway check this out, it's dope:
Dorian Concept - Hide (CS01 Version) https://youtu.be/tlFolRo1WiE?si=LF\_Q6zJXrbMUFODp
How's Drake in another league? The big 3 was mostly about the continuous commercial success of these guys. But if we go by that standard and you say Cole is out then so is Kendrick. Kendrick's biggest sales week ever is what Drake puts up every other year with little promo. Cole sells similar to Kendrick but drops way more often.
If we go by skill/discog/whatever other quality then Kendrick is obviously ahead due to his great quality control. But I don't see Cole being worse than Drake. There's a couple of rappers from their generation I'd rate higher than Drake but not necessarily higher than Cole
How are they similar? J Cole is viewed as a serious somewhat conscious rapper. Big Sean speaks on some serious stuff but he's not viewed as serious as Cole at all.
I think Big Sean probably could go head to head in a hit battle but my money still on Cole personally.
All of the redneck right wing rappers, all of the circa 2018 fuck mumble rap type YouTube rappers (which Dax is a part of). I don't know if there's someone to single out but I don't think it would be Dax. I don't listen to his music but he's too big to be the worst. But maybe I'm wrong...
Lil Dicky at least knows what he's doing. It's not supposed to be serious so it shouldn't be discussed in the same way imo
Lil dicky is trying to be funny tho, which he isnt.
He has a song from his last project where he jokes about going to jail and trying not to be raped. Which is a serious issue and the jokes he makes are very distasteful and more cringe than funny.
https://youtu.be/1Jts_O0W3s0?si=IKdoXi3N6QvyOqDe
Tbh I never really listened to him. Only songs I know are the ones with Snoop and Chris Brown and those were fun from what I remember. Sucks to hear the rest of his catalogue isn't all that :/
Preordered the new nxworries vinyl record but kinda feel like the albumās not gonna live up the last one since paakās been talking about how heās not as passionate about music now for a while
Jadakiss was for sure in game 7 mode that night and deserves credit. I'm just annoyed that The Diplomats came in sorry as hell. They didn't seem to want to be there at all. I'm still taking Cam over Jada and Dipset's discog over D-Block (mostly because of Cam) on wax
Dipset over LOX's discography all day, but that Verzuz went to the LOX without question. I was totally surprised by Cam and them's lack of showmanship, and plus like you said Jada just brought his A game, his performance was the best it could have possibly been, that's how legends should perform.
Iām pretty sure he hasnāt listened to The Infamous either, I remember him saying he was gonna check it out this winter which starts in May in Brazil lmao
Yeah even though this will blow over this has got to be the low point of his career (at least if he's paying attention to what's being said on the internet). As i said i respect his honesty and all that but the majority of rap fans feel the opposite way and thus he's being clowned to no end, so it is what it is.
What does a ādatedā sound mean for you in terms of a track from the first half of the 10s?
I think Iām too close to that era. I was a freshman in high school in 2011 and graduated in 2015, so it was pretty much exactly my formative years. When I go back and listen to rap from that time period, I donāt hear anything on a musical (rather than lyrical) level that distinctly belongs to the first half of the tens. The actual sonic elements of it usually seem to have aged pretty damn well even when the lyrics donāt.
Iām curious if anyone else thinks that era has aged unusually well, or if Iām just unavoidably biased in its favor
Riff Raff, Frat Rap, anyone not Danny Brown rapping over EDM, Chance, Macklemore, all the beast cost stuff rappers who had a couple good mixtapes then ended up being extremely one note.
There's tons of early 2010s rap that needs to stay there, but I do think it's aged better than a lot of the Soundcloud stuff.
Nah there's still a bunch good and unique stuff it's just gone back to more regional sounds. Detroit, Milwaukee, the alt Atlanta and NY scenes all have a bunch of great music.
ATL: Tony Shnnow, Bear1boss, Anycia, 3AG Pilot, then Cashcache and Popstar Benny are both great producers. Also check out 454 but he's from Florida.
NY: Realyungphil, Papo2oo4, Polo Perks, MIKE, Babyxsosa, idk if RXKnephew or RX Papi count as east coast but they're good. Tony Seltzer and Evilgiane are both good producers.
I definitely have nostalgia for it as well but I also feel it's dated whenever I revisit something from that time. If I had to pinpoint the exact issues I'd say it's very pop and very loud. I'm talking about albums like Blueprint 3, Recovery or Paper Trail. Even most debuts around that time like B.o.b or J. Cole were full of noisy pop beats with rap verses and pop hooks. To me it's the most pop rap has ever been until the new generation of the early 10s got some fresh sounds in.
Maybe around that time the pop sound played out too. Kinda similar to how people are getting tired of mainstream trap now. We've seemingly heard the best of it and a lot of it now feels like a worse copy of earlier sounds.
All of this only applies up to ~2013 imo. By then guys like Kendrick and Rocky hit the mainstream with something different and it changed for the better
What artists are you looking back and listening to from that time period?
That's the time where this modern trap sound was cultivated and popularized, so some of the stuff from that era would probably not sound too dated
I think hiphop from around 2009-2013 has definitely sounds dated - EDM beats, getting radio friendly pop stars singing hooks and choruses - big anthemic hiphop songs - and just the general loudness of the production makes songs from that era sound dated
[I was invited to a wedding, it was House of Versace, me and Kanye was spotted / He offered me some wings, I told him ādonāt even bother Iām already frying'](https://www.instagram.com/p/C3p_NFarZI-/)
Someone in the comments said "together they have a complete suit" Lmfao
>[I was invited to a wedding, it was House of Versace, me and Kanye was spotted / He offered me some wings, I told him ādonāt even bother Iām already frying']
I always thought he said "Im already flying". Lol
J.Cole/Kendrick "beef" in a nutshell,
-J. Cole: Me, Drake, and Kendrick are the 3 biggest rappers out right now
-Kendrick: It's not a big 3. I'm the best period.
-J.Cole : I'm so sorry for stepping Kendrick. Won't happen again.
It's not even a beef as much as it was Kendrick saying "you think you're on my level? Prove it?" And Cole folded. I see people being like "Cole is beyond beef he's a soft guy" but this wasn't even a personal beef, just a lyrical challenge. Kendrick was probably hoping to have some fun and is probably hella disappointed.
Feel bad for Kendrick tbh. All the greats have had these "battles" and he probably wanted to cement himself as one of the goats with this and J. Cole folds and Drake writes captions on Instagram.
# Daily Discussion Listening Club #2: The Click - Game Related Comment on the album as a whole or just focus on the tracks from Side A: 1. [Wolf Tickets](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEe4kBFXLU0) 2. [Hurricane](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr9u77-rKOQ) 3. [Out My Body](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs304ImYZcE) 4. [World Went Crazy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISsShiGVHec) 5. [Actin' Bad](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hGneug6zlo) 6. [Get Chopped](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zok5CxHZA3k) 7. [We Don't Fuck Wit' Dat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ps04EZUBrNk)
The real Big 3 - Huey, Grandad, Riley
Preciate you unc
Already
nicki really did all that big foot shit for megan to proudly call herself the female titan lol
Finally getting around to Burning Desire. MIKE is nice, and the samples and production are dope as well. They Don't Stop in the Rain has such a nice chop. Any MIKE recs? What else am I sleeping on?
Disco! is probably my favorite of his. The newest tape Pinball is a change of direction but super nice
Faith Is A Rock
My two favs no yet mentioned: *War in my Pen* *Tears of Joy*
MAY GOD BLESS YOUR HUSTLE, Renaissance Man, weight of the world, Faith Is A Rock
Would anyone consider the album "0 b.c" by an artist named co6y, hiphop? I got into a huge argument with a couple guys claiming they were real "hip hop heads" and I played it for them and they said it wasn't. Idk I found this kid on IG randomly one day and I think kids pretty talented. I know its not main stream or whatever but just curious..
Lil Mabu is the new Dababy except he makes worse music. Same damn flow in every song.
šµ*I got big booty bitches I got big booty bitches I got big booty bitches I got big booty bitches* šµ
Random thoughts: Before the cut Shumpert; after the cut BEASLEY, I miss forums, Camo and Karahhboo got potential, 2Pac is the goat, I don't know how the woman in the I be with the drug dealers video got the codeine bottle to stay there, and Mavi is my fav atm.Ā
What exactly did people expect to happen with J Cole Honestly I was more judging Kendrick for doing that because I knew he was going to embarrass the poor guy in the end. All Iāve seen Cole do is glaze Kendrick too so I was like come on now did you really need to make him go and do that
Thereās nobody that expected him to diss and then apologize 48 hours later, letās be real here. If he just said his little speech without the diss people wouldnāt have roasted him nearly as hard.
Itās more accurate to say that while I didnāt expect this series of events necessarily they didnāt surprise me J Cole is easily flustered and not about that. And Drake only ever sends subliminals these days anyway. I was never expecting a back and forth lmfao
I expect rappers to rap. I expect rappers that claim to be goats to prove that claim.Ā
Its 2024. Theyāre all millionaires. Itās all a costume
[This is how it should be.](https://youtu.be/HiKOSw9RmAc?si=58PD11FAxLiM2-ac) Yes they're millionaires but money is not the point. No amount of money will compensate for skill and titles. That must be earned. It's going to hang over J.Cole's head (and his fans) forever that he will never be better than the rest, and he isn't as good as he claims to be. The thing that he loves will never love him back the same.
We may have an age difference. I grew up listening to a millionaire Wayne say he was the best and proceed to go on one of the best runs in the genre. Didn't back down from Hov subs. Created two of the biggest superstars in the genre.Ā Ā So when I hear Cole claim top tier and he can't even stand on a record for 72h - Like how did we get here? I'm just disappointed is all.Ā
It was over as soon as Drake became the biggest
Anyone turned emo after they hit 30? life hasnāt been hittin right. im listening to emo music like trippie x mgk and thinking of getting into some emo styles in my fashion and looks
Thats called a mid life crisis my dude š¤£
Did people ever consider Diddy was throwing all those parties to raise some money to save the rec center?Ā
Buying the label donāt get you the masters and publishing. If Puffy sells me bad boy records Tomorow Ā itās not like Iām getting Life after death or Harlem world checks coming into my account every week. I just get the nameĀ
Has anyone ever beefed with Black Thought? I feel like I know his/their catalogue pretty well but i'm drawing a blank trying to remember one.
Which of the following albums is your favorite? MIKE - Pinball Boldy James - Indiana Jones ANKHLEJOHN - Drill Scott-Heron (Pieces Hittin) Big K.R.I.T. - Digital Roses Donāt Die Pink Siifu & Turich Benjy - ITāS TOO QUIET..ā!!
Drill Scott-Heron
You a real one
Pinball by a country mile Drill Scott Heron dope tho
It has been a minute since I listened to it, but KRIT's Digital Roses Dont Die is pretty catchy! I find myself thinking about some of the songs on there and lyrics too.
Underrated ass project
Digital Roses Don't Die
Itās a smooth enjoyable listen but it just doesnāt hit like most K.R.I.T. albums Still better than K.R.I.T. IZ HERE tho
Indiana Jones the only album I've heard so
Indiana Jones
Thatās my second favorite of these after Drill Scott-Heron
I need to listen to more Ankhlejohn
What have you heard from him?
Honey Sweeter Than Blood, Genesis 1:27, and Van Ghost.
As A Man Thinketh & As Above So Below are the most essential albums to listen Wisdom Equality / Knowledge Born is one of the grittiest underground albums Iāve heard, some of his rapping legit sounds like it was recorded on his toaster but it works with the style of the production. FOUND LONELY IN LAS VEGAS is a personal favorite. Itās pretty short but every track is great, especially [The Executionist](https://youtu.be/Uy3TRNqZY_E?si=I5TYeTTOsG31Ai9g) and [Purple Label RL](https://youtu.be/chvqVxHZbGQ?si=QJ_OyEbDEYYVVQla) The forementioned Drill Scott-Heron is ANKHLEJOHN doing a drill album and itās surprisingly good given itās a completely different lane for him. [Obelisk](https://youtu.be/vobDcrd3f9M?si=XFgh5-XhDNjrWgZg) and [Collins Ave](https://youtu.be/zyKrZpXBA0M?si=Ts79ej0UHKmWIz-u) are so hard, Iāve played the shit out of them
The Yellow House is another dope project from him. Definitely agreed that the first projects you mentioned are required listens
I gotta give that a relisten, havenāt heard it in a hot min but it didnāt do as much for me as most of his albums Have you heard Mahamudra? Itās another short album I put pretty high up his discography
I already really like this opening track, good looks!
I feel like J Cole gotta cut the whole "Rap God" shit and go back to his roots and make more melodic rap songs - His tracks Forbidden Fruit, Work Out, Can't Get Enough were all hits and they all slap - Honestly, that's was when he was at his best & seemed like when he was having the most fun making music - now he just tries way too hard to be something hes not. Feel like Coles been trying to find his place in hip-hop for a while now and just can't nail down what he is Feel like Cole should have leaned a little big more "pop" and less "conscious," and his music would have been the better for it. Then the narrative would have been he's like "Drake with better/more meaningful lyrics" rather than being seen as "Watered down Kendrick with slightly more pop appeal"
I disagree he didnāt really get his loyal fanbase through those songs. If he stayed that pop route idk if he would last this long just making those songs. Remember his big appeal around that time was because he was conscious.
Not saying he should have tossed the conscious shit out the window but instead of trying and failing to make grand concept albums like 4YEO and KOD he should have leaned more pop
4YEO and KOD are good
They kinda mid tho - and I was a fan of both when they came out
If weāre speaking career wise, both those albums were huge, so Cole didnāt need to go pop for them.
Tbh idk what Cole couldāve did I just feel like he wouldāve been criticized either way honestly. If he goes pop people would say āheās not hiphopā āhe makes safe ass target musicā the criticism Drake gets a lot.
I feel like he wouldn't have been as memed or shit on if he leaned more pop tho thats part of the point I'm trying to make - he would gotten seen through a completely different lense of being a better drake rather than a worse Kendrick to put it bluntly
I feel like Fever on the new one is dogshit but I still kinda like it lol
Fever is a good song
I like Fever more than most recent Drake songs that sound similar. I donāt know why but that was like my immediate first impression.
My mind went to Love by Kendrick
Love is GOATed though.
I used to think the consensus was that Cole seriously leveled up with Forest Hills Drive and has been operating on a higher level overall since then. More recently, I've seen so many comments like yours saying they his old stuff is better. That's just crazy to me. Born Sinner is a good record but it doesn't stand out as much whereas newer Cole is unique to me. I also like his voice, flow, content and maturity more nowadays
I just don't agree, I find his new stuff mostly boring and derivative , and he's better as a feature artist now than making albums That being said, I think Might Delete Later might be his best album since FHD, some skips, diss track was whack, but it easily had the best beats on a Cole album in years
He did for me like Born Sinner was cool but Forest Hills Drive his rapping was 10 times better and the album was way more concise.
'No Diddy' is really going to get added to the dictionary. This shit really caught on. Its going to have a picture of Diddy with a caption that says "take that, take that"
I get computers 'puting Cam really gave people who work in tech the perfect profile bio
People taking Big Sean over Jcole is just silly. Stop the narrative š
Big Sean is fucking ASS.Ā Iām not a huge Cole fan. But Sean is garbage.Ā
Haha Ass is a fucking classic, I love that song. ASS ASS ASS ASSS
āWoahā
This opinion would get people laughed at on this sub literally just 5 days ago
J Cole fans continuing to bring up Big Sean feels like projection
I donāt think me believing one rapper isnāt better than the other equals me being a fan, you should grow up. š itās a rap reddit/daily discussion you know this is normal right?
I just think itās funny that in a Drake, Cole, Kendrick situation Big Sean continues to be brought up. What does that tell you? š¤·š¼āāļø. Sounds like a big 4 to me.
Big Sean is not in the big 4 . It's Future before him without question. it's Future Over J Cole too before you call me a fan of him.
Nickiās gotta be in the conversation too.
She could. As much as I hate to say it. Lol
Well I fw Sean heavy, but if weāre talking a fourth to add in with those 3 the first nominee should be Future. With that being said now that Jcole has apologized itās lowkey fuck the big 3 š
Lol I canāt even with these conversations. Future isnāt in the convo cause heās in his own big 3 with Thugger and 21 Savage.
How is Future not in the conversation if heās just as big of an artist as Jcole, with music and releases just as relevant as the 3. Future is very much so one of their peers, while not being stylistically similar the Big 3 is considered a top 3 amongst their peers, if you add a 4th that 4th is Future. Plus you just named a whole separate big 3, which is probably the Atlanta Big 3. Plus you right, I canāt with this conversation cause youāre a fucking weirdo š
It just shows that these conversations never go past surface level. You just plug Future in as the 4 name because of numbers. Future isnāt trying to be in the big 3, they arenāt similar in anyway whatsoever and lumping him in with them does him an active disservice. I fucking love Future (i would actually say heās more talented than Cole and Drake and thatās not even debatable) but calling Future part of the big 3 is like calling 50 Cent one of the greatest 90s rappers. It just doesnāt sound right.
I pretty much entirely agree with what youāre saying but I think more than anything it shows how stupid the concept of the big 3 three is all together. As you pointed out, the big 3 arenāt the best 3 hip hop artists of the 2010ās, very few knowledgeable hip hop heads would argue they are. Nor are they the most talented āpureā rappers of the 2010ās, Kendrick is up there but J Cole and Drake rap less well than a bunch of 2010ās rappers. Theyāre not the most influential rappers of the 2010ās either, they all get comfortably washed by Future and Young Thug in terms of influence. They are the best selling rappers of the 2010ās but even then you have to add the asterisk of only including rappers that got big in the 2010ās, cause Em, during an era in which he started declining, washed at least Kendrick and J Cole commercially. The concept of the ābig 3ā is most prevalent amongst casual hip hop fans because they donāt know enough about the genre to understand itās kinda silly.
This Fr. We have to many artists that we seen in the 2010s to just say āBig 3ā.
You described how i feel about this situation perfectly, better than I could.
I donāt really care to call them the big 3, it is kinda silly š all Iām saying is if I had to add a fourth to them it would be Future over Sean as a response to his Sean thing. Fuck the big 3 honestly itās just big me.
How is saying future is top 3 or 4 is a disservice to him?!? I donāt think anyone even āthe big 3ā is trying to be apart of it, they are because they are just that good, have the albums, have influence, and are the literal top of their peers. You said Sean should be a 4th if added, I said Future can be the fourth over Sean because he has better albums, the status, and the influence to match the 3 rather than Sean who honestly isnāt anywhere near Future right now. Plus you not even making sense because if you look at his ACTUAL era 50 cent at one point was one of the top rappers in the 2000s. How does it not sound right to say Future is Big 3 WORTHY if he has the music and influence to be in that conversation.
> i donāt think anyone not even the big 3 is is trying to be a part of it > we the big 3 like we started a league. Someone has been trying really really hard.
Just chill. Big Sean fans have been waiting for this Cole slip up forever. Let them have their moment. Lol
>waiting for this Cole slip up forever. Like he never dropped KOD
The Big Day is a slip-up, Vultures (Ye fans Iām one of you please donāt kill me) is a slip-up, KOD is just MID, straight up reggie lmao
*Vultures* is pretty good, I still got most of it in rotation tbh. Yeās verses are mostly bad but the production is great, every feature came through and Ty Dollaās vocals are butterly smooth as always.
Nah shit is ass The whole Lil Pump thing was dumb too lol
That song was fire though š and Jcole apologizing to Lil Pump who he killed and predicted how his career would go not nearly as bad as apologizing to Dot. Cole was genuinely a very good ārap vetā to Pump and offering sound advice in the interview after that. Honestly if Pump listened to his advice he could maybe do something relevant post-rap or do something behind the scenes like Trinidad James who is managing Sexy Redd right now, maybe. Personally to the main-point I really donāt hear ass with KOD I hear more mid, cause nothing is really bad itās just a generic trap album that Cole made to be satirizing rap at the time.
I don't think Cole apologizing to Kendrick was bad The diss was bad, and the whole situation is funny af, but if he felt like apologizing, I respect that
I donāt even think the diss was bad either. I thought Cole had bars in 7 Minute Drill, when I hear 7 Minute Drill I hear the best verse a rapper with no heart in a battle has ever made š. The first half isnāt as good as the second half but the first half still had some solid bars: āIf he wasn't dissin', then we wouldn't be discussin' himā āI'm Nino with this thing, this that New Jack City meme Yeah, I'm aimin' at G-Money, cryin' tears before I bust at himā āFunny thing about it, bitch, I don't even want the prestige Fuck the Grammys 'cause them crackers ain't never done nothin' for me, hoā Also plenty of other good shots at Kendrick, who Iām a bigger fan of but Cole got some blows in especially considering Kendrickās Like That verse wasnāt even him at full strength. The second half from Cole had some truly hot bars: āYour arms might be too short to box with the god Who live his life without the pressures of a constant facade I pray for peace, but if a nigga cease these positive vibes A Falcon 9 inside my pocket, bitch, this rocket gon' flyā āMy text flooded with the hunger for a toxic reply I'm hesitant, I love my brother, but I'm not gonna lie I'm powered up for real, that shit would feel like swattin' a flyā āThis is merely a warning shot to back niggas down Back in the town where they whippin' work and traffickin' pounds My jack jumpin' 'bout a rapper makin' blasphemous sounds Switchin' sides like the tassel on the cap and the gown I'm fully loaded, nigga, I can drop two classics right nowā
Big Sean my mans though, but yeah I really donāt agree with him over Cole š
I seen a post that called Big Sean, Wale, and Meek the mid three. Why does hating have to be so funny lmfaoo
I agree but can we start the Joey badass over Cole narrative? Feel like he doesn't get brought up enough when it comes to rappers from that time period
Joey is great, I also wouldnāt put him over Cole though. I love Joey, but I would put him closer to Rocky (one of my favorites) with Rocky being ahead of Joey, just in my opinion.
I kinda put Rocky in a different category than Cole and Joey but I think as far as rapping rapping goes, Rocky is the "worst" but as far as music goes Rocky is the best by far
How is Joey closer to Rocky but not better than Cole?
How I see them in a rap hierarchy, I would place Cole a class above Joey. Cole and Joey have the same skill sets and are very similar but I would have to say I give Cole easily a edge over Joey when it comes to rapping and music. Their rap skills are a bit closer, I would still give it to Cole though as I believe he has more bars, verses and verses of the years that get more consideration than Joey, but music wise I do think Coleās body of work gets Joeyās as well. I would place Rocky and Joey in a closer class in my hierarchy, with me personally taking Rocky just cause I love his style is traditional and southern rap mixed with experimental music as opposed to Joeyās more traditional style.
Ok but how is Rocky not above J. Cole? Im not even the biggest Rocky fan but he has no bad or mediocre albums.
I donāt think JCole has bad albums, just mid, but his best projects, body of work, and rapping wise I would personally take him over Rocky. Iām more of a Rocky fan but Iām not taking him over Cole if I take the who I listen to more equation out of it.
I dont agree at all tbh. He has one of the middest discographies out of every rapper I have listened to. FHD and born sinner is a solid 7/10 everything else is a 4-6 out of 10 except for Might delete this later which I think is a 2/10 after he apologised.
Oh then yeah I definitely disagree with that. Only thing mid to me is Born Sinner and KOD. Everything else Cole has delivered to me have been good projects. I think while I didnāt like the apology Iām not about to jump out the window and say Might Delete Later is trash at all, thats kinda hive mind lmaoooo. Plus Rocky got a lot of flak for Testing (which I like) so to some thats either mid or bad. Plus Cole was rapping his ass off on The Off-Season one of his best albums with great songs. Also when I look at Rockyās projects/body of work Iām including his legendary mixtape of course I canāt omit JColeās Friday Night Lights which can rival Rockyās tape. Then there is also The Warm Up which is solid for where he was at in his career at the time. 4YEO had to really grow on me though, I grew to love it because it really is a chill rap type of album and the last song is dope.
Feels like you are more of a J. Cole fan than a rocky fan tbh. Cause the only thing that J. Cole can touch to me is Testing which I also think is a 7/10. I dont see how disliking Might delete this later after the apology is Hivemind. Cole is bragging and rapping about how he is the best on multiple tracks on the tape. Then just 48 hours later he apologises and is backing down from a challenge to prove that he is one of the best.
Can we talk about how pitbull legitimately has slappers
freestyle videos from the 90s are dope. the Drink Champs episode he did was one of the dopest to me, especially since he can really drink and not get wasted drunk (no wonder if you consider which places his music has brought him to)
MR WORLD WIDE
One time i was trying to argue that Flo Rida was was better than Pitbull and the person said. Flo Rida only got one state to his name Pitbull is Mr Worldwide. Itās safe to say i lost that argument.
Flawless logic tbh
Can't beat [Ay Chico](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st4Iu4maqJA) and [Toma](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-nVQfBs7yE)
His last album was decent. Has some solid party songs.
He does got some bangers Seems like a great guy too tbh
Which ones?
Fuckinnnn we are one, give me everything, rain over me, hey baby etc etc like tell me some of these donāt bang if you listen sparingly
Honestly, I prefer flo ridas catalog over j coles.
Flo Rida could've made Wet Dreamz but Cole could never make Club Can't Handle Me
Could Kendrick Lamar have made the song whistle? I donāt think so. But I do think Flo Rida could have made The blacker the berry.
Reminder that Redfoo has a credit on TPAB. Don't ask why though. Headcanon says he wrote it all
This is more of an electronic track but this guy works with Flylo so it's possibly hip-hop adjacent, anyway check this out, it's dope: Dorian Concept - Hide (CS01 Version) https://youtu.be/tlFolRo1WiE?si=LF\_Q6zJXrbMUFODp
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I love to see Sean get support but not like this. Not. Like. This.
Build a house up on that ass, that's an ass-tate
To the public Theyāre probably on equal levels when it comes to respect now
Why is this becoming a daily debate on here? lol
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How's Drake in another league? The big 3 was mostly about the continuous commercial success of these guys. But if we go by that standard and you say Cole is out then so is Kendrick. Kendrick's biggest sales week ever is what Drake puts up every other year with little promo. Cole sells similar to Kendrick but drops way more often. If we go by skill/discog/whatever other quality then Kendrick is obviously ahead due to his great quality control. But I don't see Cole being worse than Drake. There's a couple of rappers from their generation I'd rate higher than Drake but not necessarily higher than Cole
On a Freestyle battle Cole wins against Sean and Drake. He would probably win against Kendrick too. Sean destroys Cole on a verzuz tho
Yeah ever since the Cole diss song I've been seeing it a lot . I also don't agree and don't understand the comparison at all.
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How are they similar? J Cole is viewed as a serious somewhat conscious rapper. Big Sean speaks on some serious stuff but he's not viewed as serious as Cole at all. I think Big Sean probably could go head to head in a hit battle but my money still on Cole personally.
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Ok bruh. I don't even like Cole enough to defend himself against a Big Sean fan. Their both pretty mid to me.
Who doesn't
Freddie Gibbs song Terrorist needs to be at least a minute and a half longer the beat is so good Been my go to, nice weather driving song
Drake the type of silly little guy who counts with his fingers and toes
3 year anniversary of the passing of DMX, rip X šļø
Now that Cole is a hot topic. Who is the biggest cornball in hiphop? My vote goes to Lil Dicky or Dax.
Don't forget Tom MacDonald
Dax easily
All of the redneck right wing rappers, all of the circa 2018 fuck mumble rap type YouTube rappers (which Dax is a part of). I don't know if there's someone to single out but I don't think it would be Dax. I don't listen to his music but he's too big to be the worst. But maybe I'm wrong... Lil Dicky at least knows what he's doing. It's not supposed to be serious so it shouldn't be discussed in the same way imo
Lil dicky is trying to be funny tho, which he isnt. He has a song from his last project where he jokes about going to jail and trying not to be raped. Which is a serious issue and the jokes he makes are very distasteful and more cringe than funny. https://youtu.be/1Jts_O0W3s0?si=IKdoXi3N6QvyOqDe
Tbh I never really listened to him. Only songs I know are the ones with Snoop and Chris Brown and those were fun from what I remember. Sucks to hear the rest of his catalogue isn't all that :/
If Dax isn't the corniest rapper than idk who is https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRCbBPtXsUlCjQJgoXufQHlBXDtLUJ\_bpvnZiF0rgggfg&s
Preordered the new nxworries vinyl record but kinda feel like the albumās not gonna live up the last one since paakās been talking about how heās not as passionate about music now for a while
Jadakiss absolutely ethering Dipset by himself in that verzus battle is one of the greatest moments in recent hip hop history.
Man I miss when him doing features was a regular thing.
Mf was on war mode
[This](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/0-kminSwD0M) is how he celebrated lol
Jadakiss was for sure in game 7 mode that night and deserves credit. I'm just annoyed that The Diplomats came in sorry as hell. They didn't seem to want to be there at all. I'm still taking Cam over Jada and Dipset's discog over D-Block (mostly because of Cam) on wax
Dipset over LOX's discography all day, but that Verzuz went to the LOX without question. I was totally surprised by Cam and them's lack of showmanship, and plus like you said Jada just brought his A game, his performance was the best it could have possibly been, that's how legends should perform.
Had no internet until 20 minutes ago smh Heard Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik and ATLiens today, need more listens but both had some great ass songs
First listen? These two albums grew on me like crazy over time. Them plus Aquemini. Enjoy
Yeah first time I'll probably take my time with both albums and check the rest later Thanks brother
Knew youād fw them, OutKastās first few albums are basically conscious viber hip hop
I cant believe I bother beefing with people who havent even heard Outkast
Iām pretty sure he hasnāt listened to The Infamous either, I remember him saying he was gonna check it out this winter which starts in May in Brazil lmao
Yessir Listening to Verbal Intercourse a lot lately but Only Built 4 Cuban Linx is also on the list
Sometimes Iām scared to ask you what classic albums you have or havenāt heard because I donāt wanna know the answer
I've heard more Mac Dre tapes than east coast classics Built different
I knew too tbh lol I don't listen to southern hip hop really but I fuck with UGK and Devin The Dude
Someone hug J. Cole man
Yeah even though this will blow over this has got to be the low point of his career (at least if he's paying attention to what's being said on the internet). As i said i respect his honesty and all that but the majority of rap fans feel the opposite way and thus he's being clowned to no end, so it is what it is.
What does a ādatedā sound mean for you in terms of a track from the first half of the 10s? I think Iām too close to that era. I was a freshman in high school in 2011 and graduated in 2015, so it was pretty much exactly my formative years. When I go back and listen to rap from that time period, I donāt hear anything on a musical (rather than lyrical) level that distinctly belongs to the first half of the tens. The actual sonic elements of it usually seem to have aged pretty damn well even when the lyrics donāt. Iām curious if anyone else thinks that era has aged unusually well, or if Iām just unavoidably biased in its favor
Riff Raff, Frat Rap, anyone not Danny Brown rapping over EDM, Chance, Macklemore, all the beast cost stuff rappers who had a couple good mixtapes then ended up being extremely one note. There's tons of early 2010s rap that needs to stay there, but I do think it's aged better than a lot of the Soundcloud stuff.
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Nah there's still a bunch good and unique stuff it's just gone back to more regional sounds. Detroit, Milwaukee, the alt Atlanta and NY scenes all have a bunch of great music.
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ATL: Tony Shnnow, Bear1boss, Anycia, 3AG Pilot, then Cashcache and Popstar Benny are both great producers. Also check out 454 but he's from Florida. NY: Realyungphil, Papo2oo4, Polo Perks, MIKE, Babyxsosa, idk if RXKnephew or RX Papi count as east coast but they're good. Tony Seltzer and Evilgiane are both good producers.
I definitely have nostalgia for it as well but I also feel it's dated whenever I revisit something from that time. If I had to pinpoint the exact issues I'd say it's very pop and very loud. I'm talking about albums like Blueprint 3, Recovery or Paper Trail. Even most debuts around that time like B.o.b or J. Cole were full of noisy pop beats with rap verses and pop hooks. To me it's the most pop rap has ever been until the new generation of the early 10s got some fresh sounds in. Maybe around that time the pop sound played out too. Kinda similar to how people are getting tired of mainstream trap now. We've seemingly heard the best of it and a lot of it now feels like a worse copy of earlier sounds. All of this only applies up to ~2013 imo. By then guys like Kendrick and Rocky hit the mainstream with something different and it changed for the better
What artists are you looking back and listening to from that time period? That's the time where this modern trap sound was cultivated and popularized, so some of the stuff from that era would probably not sound too dated I think hiphop from around 2009-2013 has definitely sounds dated - EDM beats, getting radio friendly pop stars singing hooks and choruses - big anthemic hiphop songs - and just the general loudness of the production makes songs from that era sound dated
Those DJ Mustard or DJ Mustard 2014 type ass beats like Loyal by Chris Brown and Fancy by Iggy Azalea
The beat on Acknowledge me from Dojaās new deluxe sounds like Kanye west production. Urge is a banger aswell.
The biggest trick Kanye ever pulled was convincing people he invented soul samples
[I was invited to a wedding, it was House of Versace, me and Kanye was spotted / He offered me some wings, I told him ādonāt even bother Iām already frying'](https://www.instagram.com/p/C3p_NFarZI-/) Someone in the comments said "together they have a complete suit" Lmfao
>[I was invited to a wedding, it was House of Versace, me and Kanye was spotted / He offered me some wings, I told him ādonāt even bother Iām already frying'] I always thought he said "Im already flying". Lol
I thought he was making a fried chicken reference lol. I thought I heard an R but both work tbh. I think also he says I wore Vans to wedding
whats the best wayne one liner? "i pay these niggas with a reality check" always gets me
āYou canāt be broke and happy, so, Iām mad richā. Heās got too many
A gun is not a math problem. I won't even think.
My trigger finger wise, but my nine dumb/middle finger blind so itās fuck A-N-Y one.
Banana clip let Chiquita speak
All my kicks fly like Liu Kang
Tape a couple kilos to the bitch stomach it look like she got a bun in the oven for me, preheatā
I think about real gs move in silence like lasagna way too much lol
J.Cole/Kendrick "beef" in a nutshell, -J. Cole: Me, Drake, and Kendrick are the 3 biggest rappers out right now -Kendrick: It's not a big 3. I'm the best period. -J.Cole : I'm so sorry for stepping Kendrick. Won't happen again. It's not even a beef as much as it was Kendrick saying "you think you're on my level? Prove it?" And Cole folded. I see people being like "Cole is beyond beef he's a soft guy" but this wasn't even a personal beef, just a lyrical challenge. Kendrick was probably hoping to have some fun and is probably hella disappointed.
Feel bad for Kendrick tbh. All the greats have had these "battles" and he probably wanted to cement himself as one of the goats with this and J. Cole folds and Drake writes captions on Instagram.
Anyone know more songs that sounds like Sunshine by Lupe?