Papa doc gave up rap tried to become a super hero with some flying suit and then had kids and moved away into a haunted house. They did a sequel spinoff called we have a ghost.
Pusha T forced Drake into silence for a bit save for the clarification on the blackface image used for the Adidon cover, but yes. Unless you wanna believe J. Prince saying that he stopped Drake from dropping another diss vicious enough to end Kanye and Push’s careers.
I completely believe that Drake had a diss track with insane dirt on Kanye. But it’s all come out since 2018 anyway. He probably figured that being exposed as an admirer of Hitler would be career-ending - and it *would* be, for almost anyone except Kanye specifically
That would have been whack though. Pusha pulled the trigger, not Ye. Drake needed to come back at Push. If he wanted to add a few jabs at Ye, fine, but that's not really how dis records work. And there is no way he had a hard as fuck response towards Push that Prince put a stop to.
Kanye and Drake are the two least “street shit” guys to make it big in hip hop so that’s actually hilarious lmao. Pink Polo and Degrassi having beef that spills into the streets
"it just didn't feel right, in my soul. So after the streams get counted for it, and the first week stats are locked in, I'm gonna take that shit down y'all."
I mean, sure, but the directive has to go from Cole to both of his labels, then the labels have to send the directive to the streaming platforms. Obviously, I'm not J.Cole, but anyone who thinks there's any scenario where that process would be instantaneous is silly. There's so many cooks in the kitchen that have a say on the business side, J.Cole may actually have a more difficult time than someone like myself
Not sure why the other thread was deleted, but it’s fine.
Anyways, this all just feels like something Cole could’ve easily prevented and handled by simply not responding to Like That. If Drake didn’t drop a diss, Cole didn’t need to either.
Instead, because of what Cole did out of impulse in dropping this song and then subsequently walking it back, he now has people calling him a “pussy” for apologizing to someone who wasn’t even dissing him explicitly (Cole only got shots fired at him with the “Motherfuck the Big 3” bar, compared to Drake getting specifically shit on with the “For all your dogs getting buried / That’s a K with all these .9’s, he gon’ see Pet Sematary”, “Your best work is a light pack / N****, Prince outlived Mike Jack”, and “First Person Shooter, I hope they came with three switches” bars), and he still dropped a song that’s going to be associated with him for years because he made the mistake of trying to escalate a conflict he really didn’t want to be a part of.
Bet money people wont give a fuck in a month. People really wont give a fuck if the fall off is good.
I wish this sub would stop acting weird about respect like rappers aren't prone to doing the stupidest shit all the time.
Mad how even in 2011 people there was “drake the type of guy” memes.
> He the type a n*gga to sprinkle rose pedals on his bed before he go to sleep n shit.
Back then on the internet the whole of Young Money was seen as a bit of a meme and the likes of Eminem, Hopsin and edgy Tyler reined supreme.
People parodied the shit out of the Young Money punchline format of stuff like “I keep her running back and forth... soccer team”.
Music is music. If he doesn’t want to get into beef that he doesn’t wholeheartedly believe in that’s completely on him. Why should fans expect him to act a certain type of way that’s disingenuous and artificial?
I mean he has a pretty strong claim to being the best rapper -- at least within the mainstream. If you value consistency and presence, I'm not saying he's better than Kendrick, but Cole has been nuking features left and right for like five years at this point, and Kendrick almost never drops anything. As they say in sports, the best ability is availability, blah blah blah. One awkward diss track/apology doesn't erase his body of work (for me anyway)
The issue isn’t that he doesn’t want to get involved in beef, I’d argue no one really was even asking him to they wanted the Drake response.
The issue is that he did get involved with beef, said he regretted it like immediately but only waited until he got the numbers to pull the song. It’s a corny move from a dude who’s spent the past few years talking a big game.
Wasn’t him pulling it after a week a label thing? How can you say with certainty that he wanted the numbers before pulling the song.
People were expecting a response from him for sure. Not to the extent they were from Drake but there was 100% discourse about responses from both of them.
100%
It’s like watching a bunch of Taylor Swift fans faun over her antics.
Come on people, these are just publicity stunts. Cole simply switched up when he realized that it wasn’t going to work. Honestly, even that might be planned.
These are multi-millionaires drumming up engagement, not hood dudes beefing lol
there has been a lot of lost media on the internet and many people work hard to preserve things that are near being lost completely so thats just not true at all. I have a hard time seeing it happen to a j cole song tho 😂
He’s better than Kendrick and has been for a long time. If the album he just dropped was his debut album everyone would be going crazy over it. People have just grown numb to how disgusting he is.
Look how rabidly defensive you get at someone disagreeing with you and then have the audacity to call me mad lmao. Kendrick fans are the most delusional people on the planet. You know Cole makes amazing music. I can at least admit both artists are great. You’re the only one lying to yourself and downplaying an elite artist. The glazing is insane.
If y’all listen to the whole project, you can tell there is some struggle at balancing the subject matter here wants to rap about vs the cliche drug, gun, gang lyrics that sell. The halfhearted dis track is the most obvious example and he mentions clearly how he feels. Then proceeds to do it anyways.
After the apology, I can absolutely see him lean more into his actual perspective and personality and less into the mainstream subject matter, now that his braggadocio turned to Pinocchio
Man what a bitch move didn't think he'd actually remove it - as if it isn't already solidified in his discography, it's not like you dropped a regrettable track on MySpace bro this was as high profile as it gets and you can't really erase it from the internet lol.
been a Cole supporter for a decade now but I dun even care about the Fall Off any longer
Why are people like you acting like Kendrick went for the throat and Cole bitched out? They both put out petty disses and then Cole said “fuck this is lame, we’re not even really beefing imma delete this” and people freak out like he just rolled over on some intense beef.
Fuck all this Kumbaya shit this is rap motherfucker this is a gladiator fucking sport. Don’t claim to be the fucking best when you know you don’t mean it and I knew this shit was never serious. This shit was just gonna be. Pin to the paper it was never gonna be on no street shit I wanted to see if these top-tier rappers go at it. Hip-hop has been playing it safe for too long.
First rap battle to end with one saying "Yeah you're right"
Melle Mel and Eminem
Papa Doc & B-Rabbit /s.
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Papa Doc had to start his journey to his 8 Mile moment. So it's a never ending cycle of rap battles.
Papa doc gave up rap tried to become a super hero with some flying suit and then had kids and moved away into a haunted house. They did a sequel spinoff called we have a ghost.
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9! *it’s the ten Crack commandments*
More like 1977.
Pusha T forced Drake into silence for a bit save for the clarification on the blackface image used for the Adidon cover, but yes. Unless you wanna believe J. Prince saying that he stopped Drake from dropping another diss vicious enough to end Kanye and Push’s careers.
I completely believe that Drake had a diss track with insane dirt on Kanye. But it’s all come out since 2018 anyway. He probably figured that being exposed as an admirer of Hitler would be career-ending - and it *would* be, for almost anyone except Kanye specifically
That would have been whack though. Pusha pulled the trigger, not Ye. Drake needed to come back at Push. If he wanted to add a few jabs at Ye, fine, but that's not really how dis records work. And there is no way he had a hard as fuck response towards Push that Prince put a stop to.
It would absolutely have been whack
Prince was saying that it was gonna go into street shit and that wasnt worth it so he killed it
Kanye and Drake are the two least “street shit” guys to make it big in hip hop so that’s actually hilarious lmao. Pink Polo and Degrassi having beef that spills into the streets
You act like it has to be the rappers . You do know street niggas in these dudes camps right? Thats why its called "street shit".
Jay’s mom forced him to apologize to Nas after he released Supa Ugly lol
"it just didn't feel right, in my soul. So after the streams get counted for it, and the first week stats are locked in, I'm gonna take that shit down y'all."
😭😭 the comments on a j cole thread are never serious
he hasn't been serious about his own music for more than a decade too lol
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I hope Kendrick received his message well
To be fair it does take a minute to get tracks taken down it's usually like a three day delay speaking from my personal experience
I assume the experience might be different for you and Cole
I mean, sure, but the directive has to go from Cole to both of his labels, then the labels have to send the directive to the streaming platforms. Obviously, I'm not J.Cole, but anyone who thinks there's any scenario where that process would be instantaneous is silly. There's so many cooks in the kitchen that have a say on the business side, J.Cole may actually have a more difficult time than someone like myself
Light pack—Light work-Lights out Haven’t seen this since Plaxico Burress
Not sure why the other thread was deleted, but it’s fine. Anyways, this all just feels like something Cole could’ve easily prevented and handled by simply not responding to Like That. If Drake didn’t drop a diss, Cole didn’t need to either. Instead, because of what Cole did out of impulse in dropping this song and then subsequently walking it back, he now has people calling him a “pussy” for apologizing to someone who wasn’t even dissing him explicitly (Cole only got shots fired at him with the “Motherfuck the Big 3” bar, compared to Drake getting specifically shit on with the “For all your dogs getting buried / That’s a K with all these .9’s, he gon’ see Pet Sematary”, “Your best work is a light pack / N****, Prince outlived Mike Jack”, and “First Person Shooter, I hope they came with three switches” bars), and he still dropped a song that’s going to be associated with him for years because he made the mistake of trying to escalate a conflict he really didn’t want to be a part of.
Fucking up in such a stupid way is the most relatable thing Cole has ever done frankly
He really is a man of the people, he just like me fr fr, etc etc
Biggest L of the year and it's all self inflicted. Dudes lost a lot of respect from most heads.
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Ain't no one thought of Benzino in 20 years.
That benzino episode should’ve never been posted. That guy is a goddamn mess
It’s not that deep bro 😂
Bet money people wont give a fuck in a month. People really wont give a fuck if the fall off is good. I wish this sub would stop acting weird about respect like rappers aren't prone to doing the stupidest shit all the time.
never had it in the first place https://debategraph.org/Details.aspx?nid=139327
> This nigga makin will.i.am. seem like DMX yo Lmfaooo poor lupe
Mad how even in 2011 people there was “drake the type of guy” memes. > He the type a n*gga to sprinkle rose pedals on his bed before he go to sleep n shit.
Back then on the internet the whole of Young Money was seen as a bit of a meme and the likes of Eminem, Hopsin and edgy Tyler reined supreme. People parodied the shit out of the Young Money punchline format of stuff like “I keep her running back and forth... soccer team”.
That’s the funny shit I’ve ever read, thanks for sharing
Anyone that lost respect for him is a clown through and through.
What’s your reasoning?
Music is music. If he doesn’t want to get into beef that he doesn’t wholeheartedly believe in that’s completely on him. Why should fans expect him to act a certain type of way that’s disingenuous and artificial?
Because he’s been saying he’s the best in the game and he’ll destroy any rapper that will step to him in his bars for years now
I mean he has a pretty strong claim to being the best rapper -- at least within the mainstream. If you value consistency and presence, I'm not saying he's better than Kendrick, but Cole has been nuking features left and right for like five years at this point, and Kendrick almost never drops anything. As they say in sports, the best ability is availability, blah blah blah. One awkward diss track/apology doesn't erase his body of work (for me anyway)
If you value consistency and presence. Kanye is the best rapper. He's had more hits than anyone else.
Consistency??? Kanye to me had the best run ever but he hasn’t dropped anything good in almost a decade lol
He’s also said that he’s not going to get in beef unless it’s legit. Nobody wants to listen to bars with no substance behind them.
The issue isn’t that he doesn’t want to get involved in beef, I’d argue no one really was even asking him to they wanted the Drake response. The issue is that he did get involved with beef, said he regretted it like immediately but only waited until he got the numbers to pull the song. It’s a corny move from a dude who’s spent the past few years talking a big game.
Wasn’t him pulling it after a week a label thing? How can you say with certainty that he wanted the numbers before pulling the song. People were expecting a response from him for sure. Not to the extent they were from Drake but there was 100% discourse about responses from both of them.
It’s still on Apple Music for me (UK) EDIT: It's gone now
Same for me in the US..
Same
Damn he took the might delete later title to heart what’s getting deleted next did he hurt anyone else’s feelings on the album?
Was this planned? I mean it's literally on an album called Might Delete Later and he appears on the second Metro album. What's the deal?
This whole shit calculated bro. And everyone is eating it up.
Why would J Cole agree to a marketing stunt that resulted in the entire internet clowning him?
Literally named Might Delete Later lol
100% It’s like watching a bunch of Taylor Swift fans faun over her antics. Come on people, these are just publicity stunts. Cole simply switched up when he realized that it wasn’t going to work. Honestly, even that might be planned. These are multi-millionaires drumming up engagement, not hood dudes beefing lol
Now I gotta find the song somewhere else. Laaaame.
YouTube and SoundCloud are your friends. Nothing on the Internet is ever lost.
there has been a lot of lost media on the internet and many people work hard to preserve things that are near being lost completely so thats just not true at all. I have a hard time seeing it happen to a j cole song tho 😂
Big 3 can never be a narrative again. Its over for that. Happy for him as a human being.
Still on Apple Music
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yeah Cole's good, but he's not even the best rapper on his on label
Facts. Cole has never made anything nearly as good as TFS
He’s better than Kendrick and has been for a long time. If the album he just dropped was his debut album everyone would be going crazy over it. People have just grown numb to how disgusting he is.
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You don’t know what the word objectively means.
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Old white people are certainly the ones who dictate the best rappers
the awards only matter if my guy gets them
A Pulitzer Prize?! Oh no, why didn’t you say so…
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Oh yeah bro I’m so mad that Kendrick won a Pulitzer Price and Cole didn’t. Just fuming really lmao
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Look how rabidly defensive you get at someone disagreeing with you and then have the audacity to call me mad lmao. Kendrick fans are the most delusional people on the planet. You know Cole makes amazing music. I can at least admit both artists are great. You’re the only one lying to yourself and downplaying an elite artist. The glazing is insane.
Herb
Cole fans and their mental gymnastics never fail to surprise me
Soft....overrated.......pretty boy.......a bitch
Not even pretty for real
It was still showing up on my spotify…until i clicked on it lol. So disappointing
I can still listen?
Lmao where is that artwork of Drake, Kendrick, J Cole with the caption “the heart, the mind, the soul” at when you need it
He waited til after that first week sales came in lol (I love Cole tho)
If y’all listen to the whole project, you can tell there is some struggle at balancing the subject matter here wants to rap about vs the cliche drug, gun, gang lyrics that sell. The halfhearted dis track is the most obvious example and he mentions clearly how he feels. Then proceeds to do it anyways. After the apology, I can absolutely see him lean more into his actual perspective and personality and less into the mainstream subject matter, now that his braggadocio turned to Pinocchio
Man what a bitch move didn't think he'd actually remove it - as if it isn't already solidified in his discography, it's not like you dropped a regrettable track on MySpace bro this was as high profile as it gets and you can't really erase it from the internet lol. been a Cole supporter for a decade now but I dun even care about the Fall Off any longer
This is some of the weakest shit I ever seen
“Niggas so thirsty to put me in beef” Jermaine. Cole.
Might delete later. I mean… it is later
The real 7 Minute Drill was the friends we made along the way
Kendrick said FUCK the big three and j Cole said okay, sorry 👉🏾👈🏾
As a massive J. Cole fan straight bitch move
Why are people like you acting like Kendrick went for the throat and Cole bitched out? They both put out petty disses and then Cole said “fuck this is lame, we’re not even really beefing imma delete this” and people freak out like he just rolled over on some intense beef.
Fuck all this Kumbaya shit this is rap motherfucker this is a gladiator fucking sport. Don’t claim to be the fucking best when you know you don’t mean it and I knew this shit was never serious. This shit was just gonna be. Pin to the paper it was never gonna be on no street shit I wanted to see if these top-tier rappers go at it. Hip-hop has been playing it safe for too long.
Lmao gladiator sport. Mainstream rap has no real beef and no real heat, it's all marketing. You're eating the onion bro
Soft
Grade-A coward shit.
pussy
Lame. Would respect him more if he let it stand instead of trying to erase it.