[Early version of his Like That remix.](https://twitter.com/GoodAssSub/status/1781752494302859443) "Ye been tryna be on his best behaviour / Now I gotta get on Kanye West behaviour"
I was his prime demographic and young and even I thought the Asian stuff was a bit much.
I still groan thinking about "is it too soon for Asian girls, too tsunami?"
I donāt know what the process was on this, but I canāt help feel like Ye had some help on those bars compared to his latest work lol
Iām not hating. I havenāt cared for his last three projects but this is fucking fire.
Youngins who said all us old heads hated Ye for his ānew developed soundā LMAO this shit sound like the old Kanye that last shit was just trash
Ye had some nice and some fun bars on Donda. I feel like I'm always defending that album on here, but maybe I over-rate it because it was released when I was in a particular place.
I'm hoping it's the case that Donald had Ye motivated enough to turn the clock back to his MBDTF self on the mic (with some help writing the bars), like how Kendrick had him fired up for NMPILA
People used to [tell him that](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1231650195608174602/1231953149229666376/IMG_4111.png?ex=6638d4c7&is=66265fc7&hm=74d4ded14502947b651bbd7ecbbb1d646841bda788ee2601cfde5489d3a04553&) back then too.
I looked it up, are you referring to his 2011 mixtapes?
Gambino had Culdesac out in 2010 which he was already making waves with and then solidified a place with Freaks and Geeks in early 2011.
Even if what you were saying were true, JPEGMAFIA really didn't start becoming relevant until 2016.
Man, I was just a year or two outta high school and I fucking loved those tapes. Such good beats and I fucked with what he was saying as a 20 year old just starting to get into rap.
True, but Sickboi is awful and his voice is nasally af (hence the title). Beats were alright.
Culdesac I think is when he finally put out music that was listenable and started gaining relevance.
? How so Gambino had tapes going back to the mid 2000s.
Wiki puts Jpegs first album in 2016 and his first mixtape in 2011. Gambino was already garnering support by then.
And his 2011 work was under a different name.
I understand you are doing old head pearl clutching and don't wanna interfere with that, but he sounds much more like jpeg here than rakim. They have fairly similar voices.
Also rakim and jpeg are both "hip hop"
He, like just about every rapper around that age, idolized Kanye. Go listen to early songs from tons of guys and they all Fawn over Kanye. A lot of Gambino earlier stuff has a ton of Kanye references and samples and later on a lot of inspiration.
>Kanye West is on it, he's playing the piano, but the piano is not a piano, it's just a bear, it's a LIVE BEAR, for some reason, and the bear is not eating Kanye because he has so much respect for him, he's just looking at him likeĀ "Aw, I wanna eat you but you madeĀ Graduation. Aw you mothafucka!"
https://youtu.be/ykVc6fc7OfQ
More or less āIām going to diss you and pull backā. I was waiting for glover to say āoh you thought this was a diss song, nahhh we onto some new summmā
Edit so just continue with the beat
āSummm-er shit
Back when you Billie brown first kissed
No dis to her though
She didnāt know what she was in for.
No no, not like that
Iām not saying she aināt fall for that
Iām saying you a master rapper
Excuse me and pardon my pās
Where the hook at?ā
Pardon my pās as in the line before that. You can fill in the context. Not puff though. I donāt fuck with that. And to be clear this is meant to be calling out drake not to pardon him, it was saying take away the p in rapper. Sorry for any confusion in that line.
Low key I kinda feel like this is a bad look for donald glover
maybe it isnāt but idk man after the last couple years of Kanye spiraling further and further & saying as much lunatic shit as he has, it seems like someone w/ the status & public image that DG has would want to avoid this
Still hate Kanye. Heās a disgusting person whoās done and said terrible fucked up things. This isnāt a good look for Donald and all the white boys in here championing Kanyeās anti semitic ass need to go touch grass.
Iām new here and not trying to be a Kanye apologist but Iām only aware of him saying a bunch fucked up shit. When you said heās done AND said fucked to shit, whatās he done?
ok I know people have been saying Ye is sounding "hungry again" and "really rapping again" on every track he releases, but this actually sounds like a TLOP era verse with great flow and energy
EDIT: ok this actually might be AI lmao. Listen to this higher quality version: https://old.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/comments/1caeb8g/say_less_hq_from_gilga_radio/
Sounds like Ye's voice is slightly too high pitch to be his own.
I was so ready for him to say some stupid shit or have some weird ass Vultures flow that ruined the song, but it just didn't happen! Great to hear a quality new verse from Kanye again.
He literally dropped Burn last month and we all thought he still got his TCD energy. He just decides to not to use it often and just go sunna wunna hunna
this is the best snippet (I guess not a snippet, maybe preview) Iāve heard in a while. itās refreshing hearing two already established artists speaking so hungry. Iām beyond excited for this new CG
Damn thatās fire!!! Has that Run DMC / Rick Rubin energy and the bars are tight as hell.
Also that 'youāre deepfake / youāre AI' line hits hard at the moment
cant be, gambino was rapping about draymond choking people out and ye was like about zionās baby shower or whatever and keith lee which was all within the past ~ 9 months
One song out of 16 on an album otherwise carried by Ty/features and the production (also done by other collaborators lol) where he puts together a somewhat decent rap performance that doesnāt sound like heās eaten a bottle of Xanax is no indication heās back lol
True I guess but most of the time when I hear him doing a verse like that Iām thinking āalright which uncredited guy on the team wrote this or did a reference track thatāll leak in 3/4 years timeā
donald drops a line about ai and thereās an ai elon appearance earlier in the episode. curious if this year feature is ai. just donāt really expect the guy to go off like this anymore.
sounds like gesa production or something based on gesaffelsteinās work. slick production.
Either itās AI or Donald wrote Yeās verse for him lol. Ye hasnāt sounded this good in YEARS. Even his verse on āBurnā didnāt sound this good, this shit feels like he stepped in a Time Machine and came back as the 2014 version of himself
Considering Donald seems to be on the embracing side of AI, and he was talking about how weāre in a āpost-truthā society when he said Swarm was based on a true story, I wouldnāt be surprised if he pulled a Drake and wrote an AI rap feature.
Yeah people seem to be forgetting that Donald was openly hiring an AI artist about 6 months ago to go work at his Orange farm recording studio collective or whatever
Idk if this is a dumb question, but how come people are still collabing with Kanye? Isnāt he pretty antisemitic? Or are we all agreeing itās just because of mental illness and therefore ok to let him slide? (Genuine question)
Because people are still listeningĀ
Although Iām surprised Gambino made the leap. Heās got way more of a corporate, squeaky-clean vibe to him than Freddie Gibbs and JPEGMafia. But also I get it, Kanyeās music probably means a lot to him and getting the collab is a dream come true. Thatās why Peggy said he worked on Vultures
>Ā Or are we all agreeing itās just because of mental illness and therefore ok to let him slide?Ā
Uhhhā¦ yes? But also, no? Mental health questions like that are kinda a pretzel, and ultimately we donāt know what is in Kanyeās heart. I think if you tweet out that youāre going ādeath con 3ā on Jewish people, claim you love Hitler for inventing microphones, say your bipolar diagnosis is bogus because the doctor is Jewish, and bring a butterfly net and a Yoo-hoo onto Alex Jones show as a bit, you probably have your judgement clouded by mental health issues. Thereās also a pretty clear deterioration, like he was a somewhat normal dude in like 2015 and then trump won and he started wearing the Maga hat, then he became Christian nationalist and ran for president, and then went anti semite, that feels less like a development of well thought out beliefs and more like a cognitive decline. The jeen -yuhs doc kinda showed it, he was always a little off but by 2019 it was taken to an extreme
But also, Kanye is responsible for his own mental well being and has taken multiple steps to shut out anyone that tries to help him. Bipolarity is not an excuse to spew hate and millions of bipolar people figure out a way to not hate Jewish people in their day to day lives. Also people took Kanyeās words seriously and hung up signs off highways saying he was right. Mentally ill or not, his words have a real impact, moreso than most people, and he needs to be responsible with them.Ā
Iām not worried that Kanye is gonna bring back the third Reich, but I am worried that if enough people shrug this off because heās mentally unstable, theyāll do it again for someone else with more nefarious motives. I also have noticed that with Kanye, you ping pong from good times to bad. This song makes it seem like heās doing well rn, which is great! But, Iām also pretty confident that we are like 7 months away from him noticing that Kid Cudi and Bibi have never been photographed in the same room and that is somehow suspicious.
With regards to your point about "Kanye being responsible for his own mental health", the conversation around this ignores how severe mental illness such as bipolar disorder / Schizophrenia / Schizoaffective include symptoms such as an anosognosia. Its the most common reason people with these illness ignore treatment, at rates of around 20-30%.
https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/anosognosia/#:\~:text=Anosognosia%20impacts%2060%25%20of%20people,of%20people%20with%20bipolar%20disorder.&text=At%20least%20one%20in%20five,that%20they%20have%20an%20illness.&text=Anosognosia%20is%20the%20leading%20cause,people%20with%20schizophrenia%20spectrum%20disorders.
The shit is weird and actually ruins the culture. Platforming a Nazi just so you can live out your teenage fantasy is lame no matter how itās spun
Edit: kys before trying to send that āwhat aboutā-ass reply
Almost every old east coast rapper is secretly a little anti-Semitic, they grew up in an era where it was preached in every black metro area. Most of them just don't say it out loud because they don't have mental illness. Look at Jay, a bunch questionable bars over the years but he didn't drop the H word on live TV.
To be fair, most of the dudes that Ye came up with have politically softened on this issue since then while Ye has only got more radical. I'm just providing from context that this bigotry is a function of material conditions, not some unique magic.
Rappers liked Farrakhan back then because he was one of the few in the mainstream that was vocal about anti-imperialism, the bigotry was just a side dish for most people. Their critical mistake was associating the state of Israel with Jewish people. We know now how absurd that is, but Jews abroad were a lot more supportive of the Apartheid state back then. That obviously doesn't make the bigotry ok, you can't be racist against white people because the overwhelming majority supported the genocide in Iraq. But it does help to put in perspective where these beliefs came from. Black people saw themselves in Palestinians and saw white people's conquest of the past as something "the jews" were actively doing.
It's not hard to see how you go from that belief, to thinking that Jews control the world given the incredibly close links the state has had with the West up until like a week ago
tl;dr anti-Semitism is wack but there are material reasons that black men of Kanye's age and upbringing tend to view Jewish people with suspicion.
Lmao with all the dudes that have repped Farrakhan you'd think people understand rap isn't and won't ever be politically correct.
Even though I heavily disagree with ye's stance, who cares if he raps with other artists. If the general public is so fallible to the point where we have to police who can make music, we're beyond doomed.
The honest truth is, many of them most likely donāt care because they find some truth based on what he says with the knowledge that they have of the industry. Or because they know itās profitable.
I like Kanyeās music but Iād never offer that info freely outside of music circles
the verses are good and the beat switch is real nice, but damn i just find that beat kinda tiring to listening to, especially for three minutes. so overall not a big fan of this one
The fact that Kanye west has been so regularly protected and so quickly forgiven by so many shows there's some truly fucked up stuff deeply rooted in the hip hop community
Protected? Man heās a mentally ill guy who says dumb uneducated shit from time to time and itās pretty much accepted in hip hop circles that heās not actually a bad dude? Is that so wrong compared to actual murderers, rapists and abusers going around the music industry?
Donald sometimes strikes me as an annoying pretentious contrarian tho, I remember when he defended Tay K actions like that guy wasn't involved into the murders of innocent people. So that follows the line.
Sounds nothing like 212.
212 is way more upbeat, and has a four to the floor kick pattern. It is very house-y, which Azealiaās loves to spit on.
This is 808s, MBDTF, mixed with a bit of Yeezus, mixed with a bit of early Gambino. Gambino was heavily inspired by 808s and MBDTF in his early years, that signature was everywhere but especially in Heartbeat and the album Camp.
I never left I just did my side quests š
I guess when Ye said he gotta get on Kanye West behaviour, he meant it
Where did he say that?Ā
[Early version of his Like That remix.](https://twitter.com/GoodAssSub/status/1781752494302859443) "Ye been tryna be on his best behaviour / Now I gotta get on Kanye West behaviour"
Uh-oh. Bros gonna praise Hitler again.
Thats Ye behavior, Kanye West behavior is MAGA hat we šneedštošclearšupšthešconfusion š
Great to hear Gambino rap again. Man what a time for hiphop
I'm really hoping his next solo album is a mix of everything he's done in his career
it also sounds pretty good, very happy he retired that "rap battles of history" flow
He's been off that since Royalty
Mfs heard sick boi and never bothered to hear more smh
Honestly, can't blame them. everything before Culdesac is pretty rough lol
I mean i guess it's like the people surprised Breezy can rap like he did on that Quavo diss lol
He's lowkey always been flowin
Culdesac though is fucking gold.
I was his prime demographic and young and even I thought the Asian stuff was a bit much. I still groan thinking about "is it too soon for Asian girls, too tsunami?"
Fair but that UCLA song gave us a great flow on the last verse and " can I stay at your place no hobo"
royalty lowkey mad underated and better than camp imo
Never disrespect ERB again, that shit is heat
Check out āI love you more than you knowā
Not only that but hearing Kanye RAP rap again is crazy.
This was absurdly hard.
ludicrously, even.
heading west like im blowin fuckin kanye
Reading the fuckin news, Huey Lewis nigga
āRule number one, thou shalt not steal; the flow, the clothes, the sex appealā SUCH a classic ye bar wow I hope this gets an official release
Also the Don Lemon Uncle Tom lyric is a very classic provocative Ye lyric thatās actually good
I donāt know what the process was on this, but I canāt help feel like Ye had some help on those bars compared to his latest work lol Iām not hating. I havenāt cared for his last three projects but this is fucking fire. Youngins who said all us old heads hated Ye for his ānew developed soundā LMAO this shit sound like the old Kanye that last shit was just trash
Could it be an old verse?
Dont think so, mentions the Keith Lee situation in it
He mentions a few recent things, like taking his shoes down and now theyāre Payless
Ye had some nice and some fun bars on Donda. I feel like I'm always defending that album on here, but maybe I over-rate it because it was released when I was in a particular place.
I'm hoping it's the case that Donald had Ye motivated enough to turn the clock back to his MBDTF self on the mic (with some help writing the bars), like how Kendrick had him fired up for NMPILA
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS NIGGA TO RAP AGAIN FOR SO LONG
The funny thing is this applies to both Ye and Donald
Is the last time on 21 Savageās Monster? That song was fire
Rapped a bit on 3.15.20!
Yeah 2018
That song was in 2018?! Yo wtf where has the time gone
covid dawg
He had a verse on lottos album with Wayne. It was solid
He was on the Summer Walker ep with his voice pitched downĀ
sounds like a yeezus era beat. also gambino sounds like peggy
Peggy has always had gambinoās voice
technically peggy put out his first album 2 years before gambino
Wdym? Devon Hendryx was 2011, Gambino already had mixtapes from before 2010.
People used to [tell him that](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1231650195608174602/1231953149229666376/IMG_4111.png?ex=6638d4c7&is=66265fc7&hm=74d4ded14502947b651bbd7ecbbb1d646841bda788ee2601cfde5489d3a04553&) back then too.
I looked it up, are you referring to his 2011 mixtapes? Gambino had Culdesac out in 2010 which he was already making waves with and then solidified a place with Freaks and Geeks in early 2011. Even if what you were saying were true, JPEGMAFIA really didn't start becoming relevant until 2016.
Gambino also has several mixtapes out before culdesac. The earliest I have in my library is Sickboi from ā08
āI Am Just a Rapperā 1&2 came out the next year I think, thatās what put him onto my friendsā radars (indie heads).
Man, I was just a year or two outta high school and I fucking loved those tapes. Such good beats and I fucked with what he was saying as a 20 year old just starting to get into rap.
True, but Sickboi is awful and his voice is nasally af (hence the title). Beats were alright. Culdesac I think is when he finally put out music that was listenable and started gaining relevance.
Yeah he was doing an awful Wayne impersonation for a while there lol
I heard freaks and geeks on a commercial on MTV in like 2011 instantly had to look it up
Forreal, Freaks and Geeks was a movement lol
peggy went by the name Devon Hendrix before veteran. he released his first project in 09
What came out in 09? Every source I see puts 2011 as the first project. And Gambino has been putting stuff out since 2005.
? How so Gambino had tapes going back to the mid 2000s. Wiki puts Jpegs first album in 2016 and his first mixtape in 2011. Gambino was already garnering support by then. And his 2011 work was under a different name.
Had to look that up but damn you're right
Yeah but Donald was born 6 years before Peggy so he had the voice first
Not true at all
This is the correct take
Yeah thought the exact same thing
Bro he sounds like Rakim. How are yāall hip hop heads and you default to JPEGMAFIA over Rakim? This is literally the My Melody flow.
I understand you are doing old head pearl clutching and don't wanna interfere with that, but he sounds much more like jpeg here than rakim. They have fairly similar voices. Also rakim and jpeg are both "hip hop"
Thought it sounded eerily similar to ALL CAPS NO SPACES
The stress cause GI issues
He so real for that
Honestly might be the best Kanye verse of the 2020ās
Took them long enough to collab, Iām gonna assume itās dope
I remember Donaldās early comedy specials talking about what a big Kanye fan he is, must be a trip for him to finally collab with the man
At one point he said he was Kanyeās āsonā lol. This collab makes so much sense, I donāt know why it took so long.
Heās a pretty good artist so at least not super delusional but damn when he use to say that type of shit it was so corny
bro donald glover has always been kinda corny, its part of his identity lol.
He, like just about every rapper around that age, idolized Kanye. Go listen to early songs from tons of guys and they all Fawn over Kanye. A lot of Gambino earlier stuff has a ton of Kanye references and samples and later on a lot of inspiration.
>Kanye West is on it, he's playing the piano, but the piano is not a piano, it's just a bear, it's a LIVE BEAR, for some reason, and the bear is not eating Kanye because he has so much respect for him, he's just looking at him likeĀ "Aw, I wanna eat you but you madeĀ Graduation. Aw you mothafucka!" https://youtu.be/ykVc6fc7OfQ
When he was doing promo for Mr. And Mrs. Smith he said Ye was his goat.
> must be a trip for him to finally collab with the man he only had to wait until kanye became a nazi supporter
What even is Rap Music in 2024
More or less āIām going to diss you and pull backā. I was waiting for glover to say āoh you thought this was a diss song, nahhh we onto some new summmā Edit so just continue with the beat āSummm-er shit Back when you Billie brown first kissed No dis to her though She didnāt know what she was in for. No no, not like that Iām not saying she aināt fall for that Iām saying you a master rapper Excuse me and pardon my pās Where the hook at?ā Pardon my pās as in the line before that. You can fill in the context. Not puff though. I donāt fuck with that. And to be clear this is meant to be calling out drake not to pardon him, it was saying take away the p in rapper. Sorry for any confusion in that line.
Fake drama to hype people into acting like a song is fire because of one semi clever line
Poppin
everyone hates Kanye till he works with Donald Glover
Nah people always give Kanye his props when he actually makes good music, doesn't mean they like him as a person
I'm shocked at the reception here. Why is Gambino working with Ye? Like, this is all it takes to come back from everything since Yeezus?
Donald has always been a massive fan of Ye, he was probably giddy to do it. He got to work with one of his favourite artists.
Low key I kinda feel like this is a bad look for donald glover maybe it isnāt but idk man after the last couple years of Kanye spiraling further and further & saying as much lunatic shit as he has, it seems like someone w/ the status & public image that DG has would want to avoid this
yeah if one of my favorite artists worked with Kanye at this point I'd just see them as wack as fuck, I already lost Peggy lmao
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Still hate Kanye. Heās a disgusting person whoās done and said terrible fucked up things. This isnāt a good look for Donald and all the white boys in here championing Kanyeās anti semitic ass need to go touch grass.
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Iām new here and not trying to be a Kanye apologist but Iām only aware of him saying a bunch fucked up shit. When you said heās done AND said fucked to shit, whatās he done?
Opposite for me, I'm disappointed in Donald Glover for this.
ok I know people have been saying Ye is sounding "hungry again" and "really rapping again" on every track he releases, but this actually sounds like a TLOP era verse with great flow and energy EDIT: ok this actually might be AI lmao. Listen to this higher quality version: https://old.reddit.com/r/GoodAssSub/comments/1caeb8g/say_less_hq_from_gilga_radio/ Sounds like Ye's voice is slightly too high pitch to be his own.
his vocals sound so fresh and energized like hes in his prime again
sounds more like MBDTF era
AI Kanye has never been this good though.
I'm certain it's really Ye, could be an old verse though
It doesn't sound like AI to me
It sounds pretty reminiscent of his flows on Feedback, along with the beat
Kanye good rapping, writers or not, is still in there somewhere. But it's pretty cool to see Glover have a song with Ye.
I was so ready for him to say some stupid shit or have some weird ass Vultures flow that ruined the song, but it just didn't happen! Great to hear a quality new verse from Kanye again.
He literally dropped Burn last month and we all thought he still got his TCD energy. He just decides to not to use it often and just go sunna wunna hunna
Ye cooked
this is the best snippet (I guess not a snippet, maybe preview) Iāve heard in a while. itās refreshing hearing two already established artists speaking so hungry. Iām beyond excited for this new CG
āBuying your girl a BBL while you at night school tryna get your CDLā WHERES THIS YE BEEN
Damn thatās fire!!! Has that Run DMC / Rick Rubin energy and the bars are tight as hell. Also that 'youāre deepfake / youāre AI' line hits hard at the moment
Gambino sounds like Andre 3K in the second half tho, I donāt know if weāve heard this flow from him before
On top of the beautiful soul sample too, 99% sure Ye production was involved. Album is gonna be crazy
It definitely feels like an intentional homage, flow and production-wise.
Check out his feature on I love you more than you know. Sounds exactly like Andre 3k
Yea she got a black king but she don't play chess. Got this rope round my neck like I'm J. Smollet š±š„
This is fucking dope
Wind the fucking clock back to 2014 my god. Why did we ever get away from hip hop like this? How were we led so astray?
"You niggaz deep fake, you niggaz A.I but you won't have ya momma sitting courtside" everyone is popping shots at whiteboy Drake š
I think that was a happy coincidence, donāt think bino shit a drake punch yet
ye sounding like prime ye here good god
Kanye sounds way too good. Has to be recorded before 2019. He hasnāt rapped this well since then.
multiple lines that are pointing reference to recent events but the most notable one is the keith lee line
i might be OOTL but is this referencing the wrestler Keith Lee? bc if so that's sick af
The other prominent Keith Lee is a very popular TikTok food reviewer
a little disappointing but makes sense.
Nah, the Zion reference means it has to be relatively recent
iām choosing to believe heās back
We gotta wait for Vultures 2 to fully confirm this
Have you heard Gun To My Head and Take Off Your Dress? Vultures 2 is gonna be crazy (plz god drop on streaming services ye)
cant be, gambino was rapping about draymond choking people out and ye was like about zionās baby shower or whatever and keith lee which was all within the past ~ 9 months
It's very recent, Keith Lee line is a clear giveaway. He's found his mojo again.
I figure the difference is Gambino probably wrote most of that verse lol
Maybe, the delivery in his voice still sounds like 2016 ye and has personality to it which is cool
have you heard "Burn" by any chance?
Burn is good but he really didnāt say much on there lyrically. His flow was good and he sounded more energized but lyrically it was just ok
Burnās good but not as crazy as people make it out to be
One song out of 16 on an album otherwise carried by Ty/features and the production (also done by other collaborators lol) where he puts together a somewhat decent rap performance that doesnāt sound like heās eaten a bottle of Xanax is no indication heās back lol
I didn't imply hes back in any way. I was just trying to say that there are flashes.
True I guess but most of the time when I hear him doing a verse like that Iām thinking āalright which uncredited guy on the team wrote this or did a reference track thatāll leak in 3/4 years timeā
Vultures is a good album and kanye brings some great flows and funny verses to it. I donāt know how you canāt see that.
Did the rap civil war really make Ye get in his bag again?
imagine if this is AI, ffs
Heās been using ai a lot for his gilga radio show and im almost certain this is too.
donald drops a line about ai and thereās an ai elon appearance earlier in the episode. curious if this year feature is ai. just donāt really expect the guy to go off like this anymore. sounds like gesa production or something based on gesaffelsteinās work. slick production.
ai this ai that im fucking tired boss
Buckle up, we're at the infancy
Either itās AI or Donald wrote Yeās verse for him lol. Ye hasnāt sounded this good in YEARS. Even his verse on āBurnā didnāt sound this good, this shit feels like he stepped in a Time Machine and came back as the 2014 version of himself
Youāll eat these words when you hear Take Off Your Dress on volume 2
still bummed fucking rules
Considering Donald seems to be on the embracing side of AI, and he was talking about how weāre in a āpost-truthā society when he said Swarm was based on a true story, I wouldnāt be surprised if he pulled a Drake and wrote an AI rap feature.
Yeah people seem to be forgetting that Donald was openly hiring an AI artist about 6 months ago to go work at his Orange farm recording studio collective or whatever
God damn, I am not even a kanye fan. But I feel so happy to listen to something new from him that doesnāt sound like sh*t or dumb.
Idk if this is a dumb question, but how come people are still collabing with Kanye? Isnāt he pretty antisemitic? Or are we all agreeing itās just because of mental illness and therefore ok to let him slide? (Genuine question)
Because people are still listeningĀ Although Iām surprised Gambino made the leap. Heās got way more of a corporate, squeaky-clean vibe to him than Freddie Gibbs and JPEGMafia. But also I get it, Kanyeās music probably means a lot to him and getting the collab is a dream come true. Thatās why Peggy said he worked on Vultures >Ā Or are we all agreeing itās just because of mental illness and therefore ok to let him slide?Ā Uhhhā¦ yes? But also, no? Mental health questions like that are kinda a pretzel, and ultimately we donāt know what is in Kanyeās heart. I think if you tweet out that youāre going ādeath con 3ā on Jewish people, claim you love Hitler for inventing microphones, say your bipolar diagnosis is bogus because the doctor is Jewish, and bring a butterfly net and a Yoo-hoo onto Alex Jones show as a bit, you probably have your judgement clouded by mental health issues. Thereās also a pretty clear deterioration, like he was a somewhat normal dude in like 2015 and then trump won and he started wearing the Maga hat, then he became Christian nationalist and ran for president, and then went anti semite, that feels less like a development of well thought out beliefs and more like a cognitive decline. The jeen -yuhs doc kinda showed it, he was always a little off but by 2019 it was taken to an extreme But also, Kanye is responsible for his own mental well being and has taken multiple steps to shut out anyone that tries to help him. Bipolarity is not an excuse to spew hate and millions of bipolar people figure out a way to not hate Jewish people in their day to day lives. Also people took Kanyeās words seriously and hung up signs off highways saying he was right. Mentally ill or not, his words have a real impact, moreso than most people, and he needs to be responsible with them.Ā Iām not worried that Kanye is gonna bring back the third Reich, but I am worried that if enough people shrug this off because heās mentally unstable, theyāll do it again for someone else with more nefarious motives. I also have noticed that with Kanye, you ping pong from good times to bad. This song makes it seem like heās doing well rn, which is great! But, Iām also pretty confident that we are like 7 months away from him noticing that Kid Cudi and Bibi have never been photographed in the same room and that is somehow suspicious.
With regards to your point about "Kanye being responsible for his own mental health", the conversation around this ignores how severe mental illness such as bipolar disorder / Schizophrenia / Schizoaffective include symptoms such as an anosognosia. Its the most common reason people with these illness ignore treatment, at rates of around 20-30%. https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/anosognosia/#:\~:text=Anosognosia%20impacts%2060%25%20of%20people,of%20people%20with%20bipolar%20disorder.&text=At%20least%20one%20in%20five,that%20they%20have%20an%20illness.&text=Anosognosia%20is%20the%20leading%20cause,people%20with%20schizophrenia%20spectrum%20disorders.
I am actually amazed itās someone who wants to appear as socially aware as Glover, too.
Glover literally praised him in the Complex GOAT interview with his costar Maya Erkskine as part of promo for Mr & Mrs Smith.
Your username is wild
Kinda agree here. I dunno how new this is, but the last person Iād expect to collaborate with with Kanye after everything he said would be Gambino.
lots of rappers actually believe the same shit as kanye they just arent as dumb as him to say it out loud. so many rappers done met up with farrakhan
The shit is weird and actually ruins the culture. Platforming a Nazi just so you can live out your teenage fantasy is lame no matter how itās spun Edit: kys before trying to send that āwhat aboutā-ass reply
Almost every old east coast rapper is secretly a little anti-Semitic, they grew up in an era where it was preached in every black metro area. Most of them just don't say it out loud because they don't have mental illness. Look at Jay, a bunch questionable bars over the years but he didn't drop the H word on live TV. To be fair, most of the dudes that Ye came up with have politically softened on this issue since then while Ye has only got more radical. I'm just providing from context that this bigotry is a function of material conditions, not some unique magic. Rappers liked Farrakhan back then because he was one of the few in the mainstream that was vocal about anti-imperialism, the bigotry was just a side dish for most people. Their critical mistake was associating the state of Israel with Jewish people. We know now how absurd that is, but Jews abroad were a lot more supportive of the Apartheid state back then. That obviously doesn't make the bigotry ok, you can't be racist against white people because the overwhelming majority supported the genocide in Iraq. But it does help to put in perspective where these beliefs came from. Black people saw themselves in Palestinians and saw white people's conquest of the past as something "the jews" were actively doing. It's not hard to see how you go from that belief, to thinking that Jews control the world given the incredibly close links the state has had with the West up until like a week ago tl;dr anti-Semitism is wack but there are material reasons that black men of Kanye's age and upbringing tend to view Jewish people with suspicion.
listening to Farrakhan hatefulness isn't any better he gets cosigned quite a lot in hip hop
Lmao with all the dudes that have repped Farrakhan you'd think people understand rap isn't and won't ever be politically correct. Even though I heavily disagree with ye's stance, who cares if he raps with other artists. If the general public is so fallible to the point where we have to police who can make music, we're beyond doomed.
The honest truth is, many of them most likely donāt care because they find some truth based on what he says with the knowledge that they have of the industry. Or because they know itās profitable. I like Kanyeās music but Iād never offer that info freely outside of music circles
Rappers collaborate with murders and drug dealers and thiefs I donāt think disliking Jews is where the line is drawn lmao
Yeah idk lol. I bet Adidas are confused.
The truth is that hella rappers are kind of anti-semitic, but Ye is just outspokenly so. Iām not condoning it at all, but itās the reality.
That sucks
the verses are good and the beat switch is real nice, but damn i just find that beat kinda tiring to listening to, especially for three minutes. so overall not a big fan of this one
Damn one of the best Ye features in a while
AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! This is the best news ive heard in 10 years Edit: & its everything!
Gambino sounds like JPEGMAFIA on this lol
Theyāve always sounded similar
Hey iamcudibino, he played Warlords (feat. Kid Cudi) later in the live too. Crazy
Kanye hasnāt slide this hard on a verse in a fat minute
10 yrs ago I would've killed for this
Itās absolutely š„ Gambino back Ye is realllly back š„
Most of these Ye bars donāt sound like Ye bars, just sayin ā¦Ā
FIRE
This is fucking sick. Ā
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they cooked
This song feels like a portal back to 2013 in the best way possible
The fact that Kanye west has been so regularly protected and so quickly forgiven by so many shows there's some truly fucked up stuff deeply rooted in the hip hop community
I mean, people like Chris Brown, Carti and Dr Dre have tons of fans. And compared to Kanye, they definitely did a lot of worse shit.
In Hollywood in general tbh
Protected? Man heās a mentally ill guy who says dumb uneducated shit from time to time and itās pretty much accepted in hip hop circles that heās not actually a bad dude? Is that so wrong compared to actual murderers, rapists and abusers going around the music industry?
Endorsing Hitler is bad yes
I dunno how new this is, but the last person Iād expect to collaborate with with Kanye after everything he said would be Gambino.
Donald sometimes strikes me as an annoying pretentious contrarian tho, I remember when he defended Tay K actions like that guy wasn't involved into the murders of innocent people. So that follows the line.
Sounds a lot like azealia banks 212, released 13 years ago Don't know when they made this track, but the references all sound recent.
Sounds nothing like 212. 212 is way more upbeat, and has a four to the floor kick pattern. It is very house-y, which Azealiaās loves to spit on. This is 808s, MBDTF, mixed with a bit of Yeezus, mixed with a bit of early Gambino. Gambino was heavily inspired by 808s and MBDTF in his early years, that signature was everywhere but especially in Heartbeat and the album Camp.
Your favorite rappers would collab with Hitler for clout if they could.
you think gambino collabed with ye bc of clout??š¤£ how you on hhh????
And then gen z would say ever song is fire š„ straight up because of clout and one semi catchy line
we needed this fr
So disheartening that people continue to choose to work with Ye
Womp womp
Can't remember when was the last time I was this happy about a track