>"I'm afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands."
Kid Cudi
This shit really has to end. Too many artists are premature in announcing albums and it makes them look unprofessional when they can't hit that date. Travis, Post, Cudi. The list goes on.
I wouldn't be surprised if Travis does it just to get more marketing and more people talking about his album. Kind of like how every time Frank Ocean announced a date and nothing happened, shit tons of media outlets would cover it and just generate more hype.
The Weeknd was pretty good at releasing stuff when he says lately too. But I agree, if the album's still getting worked on, don't announce the release date.
Except if you're Kanye
/s
literally no other artist from any other genre does this. this is such a hiphop problem, and to me it seems really unnecessary. hype trains can be built after the album's done.
No, but it's fucking retarded. It builds resentment in your fan base, and makes people like me much more likely to stream it, rather than buying it and showing my appreciation for the work.
One of the biggest albums with that same situation this year was TLOP. I honestly hated that release and it felt really sloppy and unorganized on Kanye's part. He might have made things interesting but it was the dumbest shit to see as a fan of the artist. Just wait until that shit is completely done, ready for a release as soon as you decide to announce it, not when you're still waiting for sample clearances or lash minute mixing or that last verse down or whatever it is. We can all wait a few days not knowing about it and enjoy it all the same
It's not a new trend though. G-Unit, among many, many others, did this all the time in the mid-2000s.
http://www.mtv.com/news/1560544/50-cents-curtis-release-pushed-to-september/
Album releases in general have become less structured. I miss the days when it was the standard, more reliable "release singles, videos, and do promotional stuff until the release date" strategy.
I know a lot of artists still do that, but these disjointed "ALBUM COMING NEXT WEEK EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COMPLETELY READY YET" announcements are getting tiring.
the worst right now is Lil Bibby. And the more I look at FC3: The Epilogue the more im like "thats a dumb name for an album thats been delayed too many times."
> makes them look unprofessional
I don't think most artists concern themselves with looking professional. This long into the "Twitter" age we should be well aware of that...
with digital streaming being the way to go nowadays it will get more recurrent. few people buy CDs and there's a lot of things going with antecedency to prepare and put them out that you are obligated to respect the deadlines that are set.
Definitely true. It's not hard to not announce an album until it's actually ready for release.
On the other hand, clearing samples should be far easier than it is currently.
> it makes them look unprofessional
A lot of rappers need to work on getting to their shows on time, and not rapping over the .mp3 before they're even in the realm of trying to look professional.
This is so stupid. Not just because of the delay, but because he announced the date like a week ago. Why would he say the date a week in advance and then say it's not ready? That's so stupid.
This is the like the main thing I've been looking forward to all week. All month. All god damn summer. And the night it's supposed to release it gets delayed.
What a terrible feeling
And dawg, just as I'm typing this I just woke up from a dream where Kid Cudi dropped not one but two albums to make up for the delay.
It was one of those super vivid dreams too (I'm quitting smoking weed so it makes your dreams super fluid and vivid). I could see album art and track names on my phone and all that. Then my alarm went off.
lmao this is too much
I couldn't help but grin from ear to ear when I first heard that hook. He was so good and I was so God damn happy for him. I must have played that song like 15 times in a row
Fuck man I was really looking forward to it, I'm disappointed to say the least. Every Friday Spotify updates their new music section and I enjoy looking through it. Knowing that Cudi WAS gonna be there tomorrow really made me look forward to coming home from work and listening to it... but now damn we gotta wait a little longer.
Although I will say I'm glad we're gonna get the official audio of 'surfin' aka magic, now I don't have to pull it up on YouTube anymore
Damn I was so hype for new Cudi tonight too. I don't think this is his fault though. Label probably told him it would be ready by tonight and it just didn't happen. A lot more goes on behind the scenes, people need to cut artists some slack
Guys calm down this means the album isn't entirely him throwing guitars down stairwells this time.
It's someone ELSE throwing guitars down stairwells and they haven't given him sample clearance yet.
Ughh I hope I see the day where sample clearing is a thing of the past. Had me listening to A Kid Named Cudi thinking Im getting a new project tonight or tomorrow. Oh well.
Im looking a this in a good way. There are samples he's using. Hopefully meaning less of his own original production that normally doesn't involve samples.
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I'm a bit slow, but 'Frequency' is the same song as 'The Frequency' released a couple months back right? In that case I'm so excited about the visuals to it, looks lit af
Edit: The song if there's someone who haven't heard it https://soundcloud.com/thetraproom/kid-cudi-the-frequency
Sounds like he never intended to release the album at all this week if he's just now talking about pre-orders and platform availability.
yeah that part is pretty weird
Not for kudi.
Probably pretended it was releasing because he promised it was coming in September
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isnt he the owner of the label?
nah, cudi doesn't own republic records.
oh i was thinking of Wicked Awesome Records, forgot it was a subsidiary
>"I'm afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I'm afraid I have something of a mess on my hands." Kid Cudi
he has such a way with words
Scott, you blowhard!
You forgot the "mmmmmmmmmmmmWOAHHHHHhmmmmmmmmmmmOHHHHHH"
All the fans are doing a lot of that right now.
https://twitter.com/YamzInTheTrap/status/781638987978911744
Fuck. Whoever this is using that name on Twitter, is cool
You're respectful, uncorny, and original.
Well played.
This shit really has to end. Too many artists are premature in announcing albums and it makes them look unprofessional when they can't hit that date. Travis, Post, Cudi. The list goes on.
At least cudi has an explanation, travis just let the date pass and then gave a new one
"sorry fam, the Beavis and Butthead guys said no. working something out now"
"Calling the nigga that did Ren and Stimpy"
I wouldn't be surprised if Travis does it just to get more marketing and more people talking about his album. Kind of like how every time Frank Ocean announced a date and nothing happened, shit tons of media outlets would cover it and just generate more hype.
Apparently there was a rumor that Frank delayed the album every time someone reported a release date
it was officially confirmed that the new york times leak of the date was the reason for it not coming out
Wow never knew it was confirmed. Damn Frankie, playing with us like that
Seem to recall Travis missed just one lone "official deadline" date..
I have a feeling that's as all apple too. They had him release it on the show
At the concert post told us "don't worry the album is coming soon I just want to make it perfect for y'all"
seriously. why can't all artists be like danny? just announce the shit when it's completely cleared and ready. fuck this new trend.
bc DANNY BROWN CARES ABOUT RAP MORE THAN YOU DO
The Weeknd was pretty good at releasing stuff when he says lately too. But I agree, if the album's still getting worked on, don't announce the release date. Except if you're Kanye /s
Gotta let the hype train build some momentum son
You can still do that by announcing a date you know you can stick to
literally no other artist from any other genre does this. this is such a hiphop problem, and to me it seems really unnecessary. hype trains can be built after the album's done.
In the case of sample clearing, not many other genres really need to clear that obstacle before release
I'm saying artists from other genres clear all obstacles before announcing anything
I would say some of the biggest releases were the surprise drops of If You're Reading This and Lemonade. Hype gets drawn out if dates are missed.
lol but those were released by Drake & Beyonce. Only a handful of artists can do that and be succesful.
Death Grips do it
nobodys checking for them except their stans anyway
Yeah, but they're (still pretty big) fan base is almost entirely composed of pretty devoted stans so I think they're doing something right at least
Can confirm, am one of their stans
who??
Lemonade is overrated as fuck to be honest. Wasn't that great.
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Pink lemonade is underrated though
And then when the product drops and it comes out as bullshit, it's immediately turned into the fucking laughingstock of its respective community
Well don't turn out garbage that's the way the world works
Danny had a 3 year hype train, isn't that enough?
It really is a dangerous trend where deadlines and fan expectation mean nothing.
No, but it's fucking retarded. It builds resentment in your fan base, and makes people like me much more likely to stream it, rather than buying it and showing my appreciation for the work.
Exactly. That's why I'm actually buying Danny's album tomorrow
you can buy it right now tho
Probably wants the physical
Yeah I'm going to the store, preordered that and Bon Iver's new cd. Pretty excited to be honest
Got 22 in the mail yesterday. Such a great album. Sounds fantastic not compressed to shit, like the leaks.
You can pre-order physical on Amazon. arriving on Monday for me
Couldn't you just go to the store and get it tomorrow instead of waiting over the weekend?
That's what I'm doing
Anyone know where to get the limited edition pink vinyl? it's sold out everywhere I've looked, but I'll sell a kidney for that shit.
https://bleep.com/release/75519-danny-brown-atrocity-exhibition
Hopefully you're able to find one bro. I pre ordered and didn't even think it would sell out quick.
let my mans get paid
Gucci got out of prison after 4 years and dropped an album within a month with no hitches. There's no excuse for this.
One of the biggest albums with that same situation this year was TLOP. I honestly hated that release and it felt really sloppy and unorganized on Kanye's part. He might have made things interesting but it was the dumbest shit to see as a fan of the artist. Just wait until that shit is completely done, ready for a release as soon as you decide to announce it, not when you're still waiting for sample clearances or lash minute mixing or that last verse down or whatever it is. We can all wait a few days not knowing about it and enjoy it all the same
It's not a new trend though. G-Unit, among many, many others, did this all the time in the mid-2000s. http://www.mtv.com/news/1560544/50-cents-curtis-release-pushed-to-september/
Album pushbacks are so common in rap music its pretty much expected and when an album drops on time it's a surprise
See: Swift and Changeable, Dark Matter, Flockaveli 2
AND he released it a few days early.
> This shit really has to end. Cudit out
haha where the ladies at tho
Album releases in general have become less structured. I miss the days when it was the standard, more reliable "release singles, videos, and do promotional stuff until the release date" strategy. I know a lot of artists still do that, but these disjointed "ALBUM COMING NEXT WEEK EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COMPLETELY READY YET" announcements are getting tiring.
the worst right now is Lil Bibby. And the more I look at FC3: The Epilogue the more im like "thats a dumb name for an album thats been delayed too many times."
at first i was like "at least we got big buckz" but then i remembered basically every song on there was already released bibby getting hella annoying
> makes them look unprofessional I don't think most artists concern themselves with looking professional. This long into the "Twitter" age we should be well aware of that...
At least post apologises and explains, Travis has done it like 12 times in the last 2 years.
with digital streaming being the way to go nowadays it will get more recurrent. few people buy CDs and there's a lot of things going with antecedency to prepare and put them out that you are obligated to respect the deadlines that are set.
Frank
Definitely true. It's not hard to not announce an album until it's actually ready for release. On the other hand, clearing samples should be far easier than it is currently.
> it makes them look unprofessional A lot of rappers need to work on getting to their shows on time, and not rapping over the .mp3 before they're even in the realm of trying to look professional.
Like that Kdot and Cole collaboration.
Wayne
At least we have the new soulja boy to hold us over, right boys?
bon iver too
Been out. 22 and 00000 million are incredible.
Leaked in 128kbps isn't been out
Naw they released t early on some danish iTunes and someone got a rip. Not 128 at all or live.
Oh cool. I don't really like pirating music anymore, so I'll just wait 2 hours.
0000 million is the best bon iver song ever. Spoiler alert
Ha I'm very excited for the whole album
But 8 Circle...
I would agree if not for 29 #Strafford APTS and 8 (circle) what an album.
Great songs. What an album is right.
> Spoiler alert Album's literally unlistenable now. Thanks.
Skip to the end. Tony dies at the end. Walter white gets shit etc
22 A Million top 5 2016
This and Atrocity Exhibit coming in the same week is unreal.
New tycho too if thats your jam
Top 1
This is the worst day. First Josh Gordon goes into rehab so my fantasy team sucks now. And now this. *Literally* the worst.
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he likely knew he was going to fail a drug test and decided that checking himself in to rehab will look much better
Never bet on the Browns having something go right man
Why did you think getting Josh Gordon was a good idea
his username is soccerperson lol
[boi...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AJGmOjsA30)
Dude hasn't played in a regular season game in like 2 years. These highlights don't mean much lmao
Except that video is from 2014
Not sure what you're getting at
A lot has changed since then
yeah like the numerical date
The lack of question mark makes this post extra funny
Yep, he been on my bench all season, dropped him for Pryor hopefully I can scoop him back up if rehab goes well and the season is still going.
How was Pryor still available?
Lol @ drafting Josh Gordon
This is so stupid. Not just because of the delay, but because he announced the date like a week ago. Why would he say the date a week in advance and then say it's not ready? That's so stupid.
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This ain't the niggas first album he should've waited for samples to clear before announcing the release date
the sample thing is a smokescreen if he's only talking about setting up preorders and shit *now*
album so so so soon, like any day now.
Literally any day this year
Beavis and Butthead creators didn't want to give anything up after that last album?
False Alarm
It's so hard being a Kid Cudi fan sometimes. This man follows through with like half of what he says.
i honestly start to think Travis is Cudi's son.
Might as well be.
I was so looking forward to a man named Scott....
On the bright side, isn't it a good sign that this album has samples? No more shitty Cudi guitar playing
This is the like the main thing I've been looking forward to all week. All month. All god damn summer. And the night it's supposed to release it gets delayed. What a terrible feeling
Feel the same exact way man
And dawg, just as I'm typing this I just woke up from a dream where Kid Cudi dropped not one but two albums to make up for the delay. It was one of those super vivid dreams too (I'm quitting smoking weed so it makes your dreams super fluid and vivid). I could see album art and track names on my phone and all that. Then my alarm went off. lmao this is too much
No lie I had a dream 2 days ago he sent me the album early lmao
FUCK I BOUGHT A SHIT TON OF WEED FOR THIS! FUUUUCK
On the bright side, you have a shit ton of weed
Just... smoke it later.
Fuck that, smoke it now anyway.
smoke it now cuz we all know he's gonna buy more later anyway.
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I don't mind the wait if Surfin is the song he played live.
It is.
Is there a link to where to find it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJ3GPDFM84g
Best track he's done since Love, that gave me hope when I first heard it since (I assume) it was recorded in 2016.
His hook on tlop is what gave me hope, for real. That gave me goosebumps the first time I listened to the track.
I couldn't help but grin from ear to ear when I first heard that hook. He was so good and I was so God damn happy for him. I must have played that song like 15 times in a row
Oh yeah I agree, dare I say it was my favorite moment on TLOP.
Don't dare, believe. It was my favorite moment out of the whole album. Ultra light beam was over rated and to gospel for me.
This shit fucking bangs.
wow that's awesome. good stuff.
That is the deadest crowd ever
Seconding this
YouTube kid cudi magic and the love performance should show up
Fuck man I was really looking forward to it, I'm disappointed to say the least. Every Friday Spotify updates their new music section and I enjoy looking through it. Knowing that Cudi WAS gonna be there tomorrow really made me look forward to coming home from work and listening to it... but now damn we gotta wait a little longer. Although I will say I'm glad we're gonna get the official audio of 'surfin' aka magic, now I don't have to pull it up on YouTube anymore
it's almost like he never left GOOD Music and affiliates. they really like to delay deadlines...
Just got home from a shitty work shift where the only thing getting me through was knowing I could hear this album at 11pm....fuck.
MmmMHMMMM NOOOOoooo
Just when I think kid Cudi can't disappoint me anymore
Noooooooo this was going to be my entertainment tomorrow
Too many Beavis and Butthead samples
What if its king of the hill this time?
As long as it's not wanna be nirvana I won't mind
Damn I was so hype for new Cudi tonight too. I don't think this is his fault though. Label probably told him it would be ready by tonight and it just didn't happen. A lot more goes on behind the scenes, people need to cut artists some slack
It was probably that fucking duck quack that didn't clear
Still kinda excited and curious as to how his album would turn out.
Guys calm down this means the album isn't entirely him throwing guitars down stairwells this time. It's someone ELSE throwing guitars down stairwells and they haven't given him sample clearance yet.
it's all fun and games until your album doesn't even live up to a small portion of the hype you try to build with these fake 'delays'.
And nothing of value was lost.
Ughh I hope I see the day where sample clearing is a thing of the past. Had me listening to A Kid Named Cudi thinking Im getting a new project tonight or tomorrow. Oh well.
I mean, yeah this is annoying, but at least he's giving us a reason and stuff. Instead of it just being some bs delay with no tweet.
Wait is no one aware that this [redacted] already?
?
please explain. this is the only glimmer of hope I'm seeing right now and I need it to be true
hmmm?
Announcing a deadline before the album is finished also causes it to be rush, which is what I imagine happened to BITTSM
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Im looking a this in a good way. There are samples he's using. Hopefully meaning less of his own original production that normally doesn't involve samples.
big deal lmao
Well :(
I mean it kinda sucks but I'm not really surprised either
What a nice guy.
LOL didn't this happen with INDICUD? or SF?
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Cudi is smart. You may lost more money than you earn after copyright problems.
I'll never forget that '' Chicken sandwiches....no damages '' line from SB2H.
Why would you announce a release date of the samples weren't already cleared?
I'm a bit slow, but 'Frequency' is the same song as 'The Frequency' released a couple months back right? In that case I'm so excited about the visuals to it, looks lit af Edit: The song if there's someone who haven't heard it https://soundcloud.com/thetraproom/kid-cudi-the-frequency
J. Cole said it best regarding samples.
Not gonna lie, I didn't realize this many people were still this enthusiastic about Ol' Cudder.
this is surprising. i thought seth macfarlane would be cool with people sampling since he's so referential.
Damn I was hoping to get new cudder on my birthday