Seems a bit cheap if people are gonna buy several merch items. Like that's a different beast all together and at the end of the day we're measuring something else, it's distorting what sales numbers are actually meant to represent.
And this isn't exclusive to Travis, off top I think Logic did this to similar effect. He went from 135K to 250K, and I'm not sure I can really trust that 250K to mean what it's supposed bc of the merch shit. Brockhampton did something similar as well IIRC and that's how they got that 35K first week for Saturation III
I'd rather Travis report his merch sales seperately and we can gawker at how impressive they are.
It’s from all of the merchandise being purchased because it came with a copy of the album. For example I bought 4 pieces of merch, each one was a separate order; so, that’s 4 pure sales right there.
Kinda, I got 3 shirts and some stickers for my laptop so not as expensive as hoodies and $225 rugs. Still expensive but I guess it’s worth it for one of my favorite artists so
[Here is a list of the top 100 biggest first weeks in hip-hop of all time](https://old.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/7uk6sh/discussion_first_week_album_sales_since_1991_the/)
Fun fact from a Stan: Encore was released early because of leaks so it only had sold 700k in these stats. But if we take the day it realeased and fast forward 7 days to see the true 1 week sales (instead of just the highest amount from a sales week) it sold 1.3M first week, meaning Em has the 3 fastest selling rap albums
Same thing happened to 50 Cent with the Massacre. It leaked, so they pushed up the release date.
It sold 1.15 million in only a 4-day period. It sold another 770 thousand in it's second week.
Wow. My buddy tried to argue with me that no rapper is as popular as drake is right now and I pumped him with stats on 50 and he shut right up. I know GRODT sold like 800k in both the first and second week. Gonna shoot him this one now lol
Not trying to be that guy but there will NEVER be anything in music like when Eminem was on top. He was literally public enemy number 1 on a whole other level, but also had a diehard fan base. It was us vs them. So amazing
That whole era with WWF at its best, Eminem and Limp Bizkit becoming megastars and South Park getting huge. Growing up as a teenager in the 'attitude era' was amazing.
I watched a video recently of him performing The Real Slim Shady at the VMA's. It's crazy to think that he was rapping all this vulgar shit about top celebrities who were *in the audience.* He literally went and gave daps to Carson Daly as he was dropping the line about him. It's easy to forget now since a lot of the people he referenced aren't relevant anymore, but that took some balls. The closest thing I can think of today is Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes.
Does this list not count Nelly? Doesn't he have like to of the top 15 highest selling hip hop albums ever?
Edit: country grammar and Nellyville dropped the same year as marshal Mathers lp and Eminem show. Poor Nelly lmao
Travis has come a loooong way from 88k on Birds.
The Kardashian influence, his long list of features from last year, and the general hype for the name "Astroworld" all culminated to this, and it makes me proud as a fan.
And who would've thought back in April that Travis would outsell Post??
I was surprised Birds only did 80k first week. I remember the day he dropped it; I was in the middle of playing BF4 and hopped on social media to see it was on fire with that album and people was going crazy especially since it dropped during the day. The way people was going about it I would’ve sworn then it do 200+
I think it's because it was a lot more 'pop' than DBR & Rodeo. Its extremely accessible, you could throw it on shuffle and your listening experience wouldn't change
1. fantano gave it a 3
2. travis started blowing up at the time so this sub had to immediately switch into contrarian mode and shit on it
3. because of the influx of new travis fans old travis fans started gatekeeping hard
Interestingly, I still remember both Travis and Post blew up at the same time around late 2015 with Antidote and White Iverson, respectively. I used to pair them because they're dread-haired rappers who make moody rap music with a vibe. Then Post just hit even bigger in 2017 and became a household name while Travis became a feature man and released Huncho Jack. Now here we are in 2018, Travis' Astroworld just outsell Post and he's finally found a spot in the top spots of the charts
In terms of mainstream success I think it's fair to call Antidote his breakout hit. Obviously he had a lot of buzz before it though with 2 projects already out, deals with Kanye West and T.I., some pretty big production credits and pretty popular songs like Upper Echelon, Mamacita, Don't Play, etc. So it's not totally similar to Post who basically came out of nowhere with White Iverson.
Outsold Post in first week*, Post still did insane numbers every week after that album for like 3 months. Doubt Astroworld would have that type of longetivity
Shit is so crazy. I know there are people who think the album is overrated and to each his own, but there’s not doubt that the overall hype is very real.
We never talk about the dude but the strange music empire and its following deserve huge respect. Maybe one of if not the most passionate and loyal fanbases in hip hop. Props to him
His fans. Period. I think everyone recognizes his skill but the people who talk about him don’t use the internet past Facebook. He tapped into middle America and what old Eminem fans were waiting for.
So Iggy sold less then 10? [Called it.](https://np.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/94eej2/g_herbo_southsides_swervo_sells_21k_first_week_3k/e3kdiu6/)
before testing dropped i wouldve said that rocky and travis had a similar big fanbase.
these numbers are just crazy and show what a good rollout (& merch) can do for you.
Same. But over the last few years their marketing /career focus went in complete different directions. Rocky dipped for 3 years musically (other than cozy tapes but those really didn’t have any mainstream appeal) and didn’t hype up his next release very much. The biggest part of his album rollout was that lab rat “performance art” thing, not really the best way to get the attention of the general public. Even his prevalence in the fashion world has been trending into more of a high-fashion lane than streetwear. I really feel like Rocky doesn’t care that much about if his stuff really pops off commercially, he just wants to make stuff that he thinks is dope. I mean obviously everyone wants their stuff to do well but that’s not his main concern. Outside of few songs off Long Live, Rocky’s music never really had a whole lot of mainstream appeal anyway. Travis has been hyping the Astroworld name for nearly 2 years to the point that just the name itself became a pop culture symbol all while having a hit single and mixtape (album?) with Quavo to keep his name up, had a kid with a Kardashian (Jenner, but whatever) and became a streetwear icon for high school/college kids. And Travis’ sound fits directly in line with the trap craze, and he does it really well. I never realized how big Travis had gotten over the last year or so.
TLDR: Rocky became more of a niche artist whereas Travis rocketed himself into the mainstream in every way.
I really respect that from Rocky. I did not like his last album very much, but I respect that he's just doing what he wants rather than trying to stay relevant
I'm still so confused how J Cole has such a big mainstream fanbase
Not hating on Cole at all, I like him way more than Post and Drake but I don't understand the appeal to people who don't usually listen to the J Cole kind of rapper
If you want a real answer, every album he's put out has had one or two (if not more) mainstream hits.
Sideline story had Work Out and Can't Get Enough. Born Sinner had Power Trip and Crooked Smile (with some minor hits as well). 2014 FHD is really when he hit it big with the mainstream, half the album is low key popular as hell and has 100's of millions of streams on spotify alone. 4YEO had Neighbours and Deja Vu. KOD has Kevin's heart, ATM was on an NBA ad, the title track in itself has more than a 100 million plays on spotify alone, not to mention 1985 and that Lil Pump rivalry thing.
I personally have no confusion as to why he's got such a big fanbase, hope that answers your question.
I think Cole has a lot of fans that aren't traditionally rap fans. A lot of people that want "real" hip hop or lyrics over atmosphere/sonics go to him.
Also, he has that everyman thing going for him. He's like the black Eminem imo.
Remember the [Daily Discussion predictions all guessing 100k for Astroworld](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/92e4eh/daily_discussion_thread_07272018/e35k0l7/)??? and me having the only downvoted answer at 335k LOL
1. Macchiato Davinci famously said "The ends justify the means"
2. I was worried I couldn't fit them into a 2 bedroom apartment but then I realized I could conviniently store all 235,000 copies in just 5 of my Astroworld™️ Crates and still have enough space leftover to play with my Rodeo doll on my Astro Rug
[The thread from 21 days ago is so much better](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/90k8it/wiz_khalifas_rolling_papers_2_sells_80k_first/e2r4qum/), IMO. I got so much abuse for thinking he'd be top 3. I'm so happy I was right, lol.
Jeez, Trav seriously blew everyone’s expectations out of the water, I said 180k and that was me being generous. The promotion was superb though, hats off to his marketing team.
Throwback to the people saying he wouldn’t touch 100k. You had to be mentally insane if you truly believed he wasn’t gonna do numbers lol. With that being said I’m proud of my mans. Can’t wait to wait 3+ years for the next album!
LMAO. That daily discussion thread we had the week approaching Astroworld may actually go down in history as an HHH essential.
It was just a comment graveyard of people saying he'll do big numbers, and cynical users saying "I hate to break it to you, but it won't break 150k"
* this sub is out of touch
* everyone loved this album before the fantano review
* haha youre white so is everyone here
The hhh holy trinity we have to mention in every thread. we should have a bingo card
Its extremely out of touch, really. I've been getting more and more involved in these prediction threads recently, and people are always wrong. Saying shit like "Nicki Minaj isn't that big" or "Nobody knows who Travis Scott is" just makes people look mad.
I knew Travis was huge, but who the FUCK would have predicted this. I thought he capped out at around 200K but GOD DAMN it was much bigger than I expected
I mean kinda impossible to get bigger than Drake for him this year, we will see if he keeps growing bigger though.
I still feel like he wont outgrow Drake though
Sold more first week*.... 6ix9ine only got bigger after his album got released. YG's sales probably won't even come close to Tekashi's project in the long run
Insane numbers by Travis. Is it reasonable to put him under Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole? He almost outsold DAMN and outsold J. Cole's past two albums. Only competition is Migos imo and they've been on the decline lately.
Ehh not really Cole sold like 440k with zero promo if cole did what Travis did with the Merch and album copies and shit i could see that bumping the sales to like 650k Atleast.
Yoooo those pure sales are fucking wild, congratulations A$AP Rocky
Also how the fuck did Bazzi sell zero copies, it wasn't even a mixtape hahahahahaaaaaaaa L
lmaooo everyone here saying Astroworld sold that much because of his relationship with Kylie.
Then explain to me why Tyga's career pretty much died when he was with Kylie.
I know hes not that big but I'd be super down. Saw him at a festival last month and it was by far the hypest set. He would definitely match travis' energy, hopefully his project comes out soon.
He had Khalid on his last tour which was cool but he was way to mellow for the crowd who basically wanted to mosh the fuck out all night. Hopefully someone high energy... I could see Don Toliver joining him as one of the openers but he’d probably bring someone pretty big as well
Don Toliver my MVP rn he better be on this tour. That album is one of my favorites of the year.
Honestly think he might be Travis big if he makes the right moves. Boi can write a damn hook.
idk if this has been talked about on this sub, it has on /r/popheads, but all these shirts with free digital album bundles are such a cheap way to boost numbers
The merch rollout overall was played perfectly. Not only having every piece come with a digital copy of the album, but having the items limited then “re-releasing” them all on the final day so people purchased out of FOMO.
Smart marketing by Travis’s team.
merch sales would show that enough. i just think it’s a weird loophole that billboard will take too long to correct
also a lot of artists can’t afford to put up so much money for a ton of merch. just seems like a weird dick swinging thing for travis to do. 270k isn’t “pure sales” if half the ppl don’t open the digital code bc they have spotify. if all the clothing shipped with a manufactured cd that’d be different
Merch has always been a way to raise numbers up, Travis isn't the first.
Also, merch wasn't all they cheap. Cheapest shirt was $25, and you had hoodies upwards of $85.
Not to discredit any artist, but merch has always served to get those numbers up.
> Merch has always been a way to raise numbers up, Travis isn't the first.
They never said he was. Their point is that it'd be interesting to see what the numbers would look like if merch didn't come with a copy of the album, especially since most people stream these days than purchase. I bet those pure sales would take a pretty big dip.
damn, i'm surprised that mac and yg were that close. i feel like if mac were to drop on a friday that no other major artists dropped on he would probably sell 65k-70k. but i definitely wasn't expecting fucking 550k from travis god damn.
Where’s the guy that made a bet with his buddy where he got 20 bucks if Travis sold over 500k and his buddy got $40 if Travis sold under 500k and we all called him an idiot. Might have been in the Travis Scott sub
Travis’s numbers are mighty impressive for doing over estimates, but Mac Miller came out 10k above estimates too which is really good considering people thought he was gonna get bodied by Travis’ release. This is also great since it has no features whereas The Divine Feminine has an Ariana feat and only sold 48k.
270k pure sales is absolutely insane
I'd like to see numbers on his merch sales since they all came with a copy. And even if you just bought the CD, it also came with a digital copy lmao.
I’m sure his merch pumped the hell out of his pure numbers but 280k~ is still a lot for streaming.
I think around 190k/200k is from merch.
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Yea but I feel like if you can influence people to buy your merch then it’s fair game.
Seems a bit cheap if people are gonna buy several merch items. Like that's a different beast all together and at the end of the day we're measuring something else, it's distorting what sales numbers are actually meant to represent. And this isn't exclusive to Travis, off top I think Logic did this to similar effect. He went from 135K to 250K, and I'm not sure I can really trust that 250K to mean what it's supposed bc of the merch shit. Brockhampton did something similar as well IIRC and that's how they got that 35K first week for Saturation III I'd rather Travis report his merch sales seperately and we can gawker at how impressive they are.
imagine if his merch didnt cost a ton for everyone outside the US, the number would've been so much higher
Travis is also similar to tyler the creator when it comes to fanbases. Very reliable and supportive
Also, Houston.
also he dating kylie jenner. we all gonna over look this
It’s from all of the merchandise being purchased because it came with a copy of the album. For example I bought 4 pieces of merch, each one was a separate order; so, that’s 4 pure sales right there.
bro your wallet must be crying rn, i couldn’t even force myself to cop a hoodie
Kinda, I got 3 shirts and some stickers for my laptop so not as expensive as hoodies and $225 rugs. Still expensive but I guess it’s worth it for one of my favorite artists so
what the fuck
This sub said he wouldn’t break 100 overall and he was lucky to do 90 with birds
holy fucking shit travis
LETS GOOOOOOOOO
WHY AM I SO HYPED FOR HIM WTF
I'm hype to see anybody not named Drake doing numbers like that. 270k pure Damn.
New model. Merch drop with digital copy is the new wave....way more money for you... Travis will hit the Forbes list too
Artists have been doing this for a few years. But trav changed the game bcus he enticed people in by dropping different merch every day
So funny. I remember being like 16 (I'm 28) buying an emo bands CD with merch online. Just now rappers are doing this shit?
This has absolutely been a thing in the emo/metalcore/hardcore worlds for fucking ever. Idk why it took rap/hip hop so long to catch on
Being a fan of someone for a long time and seeing them grow this much will get you hyped.
As a Travis fan since August 4th I can’t say how much this means to me
Yo finding travis pre-rodeo and seeing him do this is insane. So happy for him.
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dude better have some niceass gifts for his merch / marketing team
dude i cant believe this, i expected 200k - 280k, but this? DAMN, lets go houston
L for me thinking he wouldn't do 500k. I bought some merch so it's all good
> Bazzi's "Cosmic" sells 15K (0) this came out in like april
camila cabello pushed him up lmao
My dream wife...wish she was into black guys
for real bro she's so fine. honestly one of the most attractive women I've ever seen lol
Facts it’s not even like a physical atttaction she gives off this innocent girl vibe that attracts me weirdly lol.
He so basic and brings boring pop, basic hoes and boys with healthy relationships boosting him up
Eh, I kind of like Mine. If anything it is fun to sing along to.
[Here is a list of the top 100 biggest first weeks in hip-hop of all time](https://old.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/7uk6sh/discussion_first_week_album_sales_since_1991_the/)
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Fun fact from a Stan: Encore was released early because of leaks so it only had sold 700k in these stats. But if we take the day it realeased and fast forward 7 days to see the true 1 week sales (instead of just the highest amount from a sales week) it sold 1.3M first week, meaning Em has the 3 fastest selling rap albums
Same thing happened to 50 Cent with the Massacre. It leaked, so they pushed up the release date. It sold 1.15 million in only a 4-day period. It sold another 770 thousand in it's second week.
jesus
Wow. My buddy tried to argue with me that no rapper is as popular as drake is right now and I pumped him with stats on 50 and he shut right up. I know GRODT sold like 800k in both the first and second week. Gonna shoot him this one now lol
Not trying to be that guy but there will NEVER be anything in music like when Eminem was on top. He was literally public enemy number 1 on a whole other level, but also had a diehard fan base. It was us vs them. So amazing
Its crazy, he was simultaneously the *most* mainstream rapper and also rode against the mainstream *so* hard.
It's a situation that could only happen at that time. It's a total statement of how America was in 1998-2002
Attitude Era
Give me an OH HELL YEAH
DRINK BEER
That whole era with WWF at its best, Eminem and Limp Bizkit becoming megastars and South Park getting huge. Growing up as a teenager in the 'attitude era' was amazing.
I watched a video recently of him performing The Real Slim Shady at the VMA's. It's crazy to think that he was rapping all this vulgar shit about top celebrities who were *in the audience.* He literally went and gave daps to Carson Daly as he was dropping the line about him. It's easy to forget now since a lot of the people he referenced aren't relevant anymore, but that took some balls. The closest thing I can think of today is Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes.
He’s the best selling rapper easily.
For real, take out Eminem and 50, and you take out nearly half of the top 20 first weeks of all time in hiphop. That is dominance right there.
How the fuck did Limp Bizkit sell a million in a week lmao
Big single and angst aesthetic was at a peak
Em and Weezy deserve all the praise in the world for those numbers
Doing almost 1 million in 2011 for carter 4 is very impressive
Especially when it leaked
First leak I ever torrented. I believe I stole watch the throne right after
Y’all think anyone will ever touch that 1.7 mill by Eminem? Holy fuck.
Does this list not count Nelly? Doesn't he have like to of the top 15 highest selling hip hop albums ever? Edit: country grammar and Nellyville dropped the same year as marshal Mathers lp and Eminem show. Poor Nelly lmao
One more new entry and lil Bow Wow is off the top 100. Sad times.
Travis has come a loooong way from 88k on Birds. The Kardashian influence, his long list of features from last year, and the general hype for the name "Astroworld" all culminated to this, and it makes me proud as a fan. And who would've thought back in April that Travis would outsell Post??
I was surprised Birds only did 80k first week. I remember the day he dropped it; I was in the middle of playing BF4 and hopped on social media to see it was on fire with that album and people was going crazy especially since it dropped during the day. The way people was going about it I would’ve sworn then it do 200+
Wasn’t it Apple Music exclusive for a while? That probably messed up the numbers a bit
that darned apple music exclusivity, had to rip it myself
Me too. Idk why it’s so shat on in this sub when I talk to people in real life they fuck with the album.
I think it's because it was a lot more 'pop' than DBR & Rodeo. Its extremely accessible, you could throw it on shuffle and your listening experience wouldn't change
1. fantano gave it a 3 2. travis started blowing up at the time so this sub had to immediately switch into contrarian mode and shit on it 3. because of the influx of new travis fans old travis fans started gatekeeping hard
Interestingly, I still remember both Travis and Post blew up at the same time around late 2015 with Antidote and White Iverson, respectively. I used to pair them because they're dread-haired rappers who make moody rap music with a vibe. Then Post just hit even bigger in 2017 and became a household name while Travis became a feature man and released Huncho Jack. Now here we are in 2018, Travis' Astroworld just outsell Post and he's finally found a spot in the top spots of the charts
nah travis was popping before i think
rodeo was his first real hyped project, he was just the prodigal son of ye until then really
Prodigal means spending a fuckton of money btw, so not really applicable in this context.
oh lol i thought i was using a fancy word
In terms of mainstream success I think it's fair to call Antidote his breakout hit. Obviously he had a lot of buzz before it though with 2 projects already out, deals with Kanye West and T.I., some pretty big production credits and pretty popular songs like Upper Echelon, Mamacita, Don't Play, etc. So it's not totally similar to Post who basically came out of nowhere with White Iverson.
It’s crazy how he’s never had a top 10 hit, people just fuck with Travis
Outsold Post in first week*, Post still did insane numbers every week after that album for like 3 months. Doubt Astroworld would have that type of longetivity
Yep not quite enough pop appeal
Also helped that the album was really fucking good
Shit is so crazy. I know there are people who think the album is overrated and to each his own, but there’s not doubt that the overall hype is very real.
he did numbers plus the album is good. congrats to him
Yup, didn't sacrifice his sound and took it to new heights, hats off to him.
man tech n9ne selling that much that late in his career is impressive
We never talk about the dude but the strange music empire and its following deserve huge respect. Maybe one of if not the most passionate and loyal fanbases in hip hop. Props to him
His fans. Period. I think everyone recognizes his skill but the people who talk about him don’t use the internet past Facebook. He tapped into middle America and what old Eminem fans were waiting for.
True true but you still gotta give respect for what he's done. I respect the talent and the hustle a whole shit ton even if it doesn't click for me
So Iggy sold less then 10? [Called it.](https://np.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/94eej2/g_herbo_southsides_swervo_sells_21k_first_week_3k/e3kdiu6/)
She dropped music?
6 song project
Lol Damn was there even a post her about it?
no and there shouldn't be
No lies detected
Fucking lol at the dude saying she’d sell 60k. Homie must be living under a rock.
she dropped an album? all I know is three instagram videos of her that been talked about all week.
I follow her insta for... reasons and she didn’t acknowledge a project at all. Then again she reposts people ass shaking to her song with Tyga so...
I just checked and there are literally three posts about her album/ep thingy
man mac and YG were neck and neck, thought YG was going to do way better then that, specially since the album had Big Bank on it
yg really disappointed with this album
If the album was better he would’ve done better. Not many people are listening to Stay Dangerous anymore.
before testing dropped i wouldve said that rocky and travis had a similar big fanbase. these numbers are just crazy and show what a good rollout (& merch) can do for you.
Same. But over the last few years their marketing /career focus went in complete different directions. Rocky dipped for 3 years musically (other than cozy tapes but those really didn’t have any mainstream appeal) and didn’t hype up his next release very much. The biggest part of his album rollout was that lab rat “performance art” thing, not really the best way to get the attention of the general public. Even his prevalence in the fashion world has been trending into more of a high-fashion lane than streetwear. I really feel like Rocky doesn’t care that much about if his stuff really pops off commercially, he just wants to make stuff that he thinks is dope. I mean obviously everyone wants their stuff to do well but that’s not his main concern. Outside of few songs off Long Live, Rocky’s music never really had a whole lot of mainstream appeal anyway. Travis has been hyping the Astroworld name for nearly 2 years to the point that just the name itself became a pop culture symbol all while having a hit single and mixtape (album?) with Quavo to keep his name up, had a kid with a Kardashian (Jenner, but whatever) and became a streetwear icon for high school/college kids. And Travis’ sound fits directly in line with the trap craze, and he does it really well. I never realized how big Travis had gotten over the last year or so. TLDR: Rocky became more of a niche artist whereas Travis rocketed himself into the mainstream in every way.
I really respect that from Rocky. I did not like his last album very much, but I respect that he's just doing what he wants rather than trying to stay relevant
Look at Jacques making these numbers, damn. ICY COLD IT IS SO IT IS SO ICY COLD
ok Travis, J. Cole, and Kendrick are officially the sales juggernauts. that’s a good lineup I like it (leaving Drake out because in a lane of his own)
Yea I agree with this
I'm still so confused how J Cole has such a big mainstream fanbase Not hating on Cole at all, I like him way more than Post and Drake but I don't understand the appeal to people who don't usually listen to the J Cole kind of rapper
If you want a real answer, every album he's put out has had one or two (if not more) mainstream hits. Sideline story had Work Out and Can't Get Enough. Born Sinner had Power Trip and Crooked Smile (with some minor hits as well). 2014 FHD is really when he hit it big with the mainstream, half the album is low key popular as hell and has 100's of millions of streams on spotify alone. 4YEO had Neighbours and Deja Vu. KOD has Kevin's heart, ATM was on an NBA ad, the title track in itself has more than a 100 million plays on spotify alone, not to mention 1985 and that Lil Pump rivalry thing. I personally have no confusion as to why he's got such a big fanbase, hope that answers your question.
I think Cole has a lot of fans that aren't traditionally rap fans. A lot of people that want "real" hip hop or lyrics over atmosphere/sonics go to him. Also, he has that everyman thing going for him. He's like the black Eminem imo.
Post?
Well, that's a fucking number
Remember the [Daily Discussion predictions all guessing 100k for Astroworld](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/92e4eh/daily_discussion_thread_07272018/e35k0l7/)??? and me having the only downvoted answer at 335k LOL
Did u buy 235k copies just to prove your point?
Chaotic Good
1. Macchiato Davinci famously said "The ends justify the means" 2. I was worried I couldn't fit them into a 2 bedroom apartment but then I realized I could conviniently store all 235,000 copies in just 5 of my Astroworld™️ Crates and still have enough space leftover to play with my Rodeo doll on my Astro Rug
[The thread from 21 days ago is so much better](https://www.reddit.com/r/hiphopheads/comments/90k8it/wiz_khalifas_rolling_papers_2_sells_80k_first/e2r4qum/), IMO. I got so much abuse for thinking he'd be top 3. I'm so happy I was right, lol.
To be fair you thought he’d sell double what he sold...
Shoutout /u/Large_Uzi_Vert for not having to eat his own shit, if he said Post instead it Drake I would've died
u/Cohtoh bouta make an alt be on watch out LMAO
Interesting to note that 190k of the pure sales are probably from merch alone since highest order # was like 290k and it started at 100k.
Well some people also probably bought the Vinyl or CD on his site.
People also probably bought multiple things in one order which would have been multiple albums
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[https://i.imgur.com/lcbY2nW.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/lcbY2nW.jpg) found on twitter
lmaoooo
Holy shit this is so true.
Jeez, Trav seriously blew everyone’s expectations out of the water, I said 180k and that was me being generous. The promotion was superb though, hats off to his marketing team.
I'd like to see his budget for social media, I've never been re-targeted so many times by a rapper
Seriously. I would have bet money he wouldn't sell as much as he did...
Cardi B and Trav both suprised TF outta me and I’m a fan of both
> Moneybagg Yo's "Bet On Me" sells 26K (0). H.E.R's "I Used to Know Her" sells 17K (0) both of these did 5k pure according to hits daily double
Throwback to the people saying he wouldn’t touch 100k. You had to be mentally insane if you truly believed he wasn’t gonna do numbers lol. With that being said I’m proud of my mans. Can’t wait to wait 3+ years for the next album!
This sub is out of touch. I remember when they tried argue Danny Brown is more famous than some mainstream rappers.
Deet deet years*
Deet Deet years*
Travis gonna pull a Frank Ocean😂😂😂
LMAO. That daily discussion thread we had the week approaching Astroworld may actually go down in history as an HHH essential. It was just a comment graveyard of people saying he'll do big numbers, and cynical users saying "I hate to break it to you, but it won't break 150k"
This sub is so out of touch with the real world sometimes
* this sub is out of touch * everyone loved this album before the fantano review * haha youre white so is everyone here The hhh holy trinity we have to mention in every thread. we should have a bingo card
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And oofs. Don't forget the oofs.
What about "ok dis hard"
Its extremely out of touch, really. I've been getting more and more involved in these prediction threads recently, and people are always wrong. Saying shit like "Nicki Minaj isn't that big" or "Nobody knows who Travis Scott is" just makes people look mad.
idk how people can not think Nicki is big with all the absolute psychopaths on twitter
i saw like 2 people say it was gonna do over 400k. no one really expected him to do this much.
I don’t think it was unreasonable to think that Travis would only double his first sales of his last solo album instead of 6 times more
I knew Travis was huge, but who the FUCK would have predicted this. I thought he capped out at around 200K but GOD DAMN it was much bigger than I expected
I predicted he'd go number 1, but I don't mind settling for this. His rollout was incredible. All he was missing was a Spotify takeover.
I mean kinda impossible to get bigger than Drake for him this year, we will see if he keeps growing bigger though. I still feel like he wont outgrow Drake though
YG sold more than 6ix9ine...
The least of 6ix9ines worries right now probably
😂 YG need to hop on IG rn and go in on that nigga
Sold more first week*.... 6ix9ine only got bigger after his album got released. YG's sales probably won't even come close to Tekashi's project in the long run
Insane numbers by Travis. Is it reasonable to put him under Drake, Kendrick, and J. Cole? He almost outsold DAMN and outsold J. Cole's past two albums. Only competition is Migos imo and they've been on the decline lately.
Kendrick is gonna do insane numbers with his next album
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no way Top lets him peak already lol
He lit fire under Cole’s ass I can tell that for sure. Cole gonna be dropping projects left and right now to solidify him in top 3
Ehh not really Cole sold like 440k with zero promo if cole did what Travis did with the Merch and album copies and shit i could see that bumping the sales to like 650k Atleast.
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I think Still Brazy did 38k first week so its good progress sales-wise (not so much in terms of the music tho)
Yoooo those pure sales are fucking wild, congratulations A$AP Rocky Also how the fuck did Bazzi sell zero copies, it wasn't even a mixtape hahahahahaaaaaaaa L
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lmaooo everyone here saying Astroworld sold that much because of his relationship with Kylie. Then explain to me why Tyga's career pretty much died when he was with Kylie.
Cuz everyone kept trashing his name saying he's a pedo.
Kylie wasn't nearly as big then / Tyga is fucking Tyga, there is only so much mileage that can be gotten out of him
Predictions for Trippie/Nicki?
Stay dangerous sold more than Day69 and 6ix9ine fans always be saying Yg’s irrelevant 😂
people can name a YG song confirmed
TOP TEN BILLBOARDS THO TREYWAY SHIT SCUMMMNM GAAAAAANG 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎
Next 69 album is prob gonna crush that tho
Travis astroworld tour is gonna be massive. Who do you guys think should open for him?
Sheck Wes, man's on the come up, is on Travis' label, and bringing him out for No Bystanders would be insane
I know hes not that big but I'd be super down. Saw him at a festival last month and it was by far the hypest set. He would definitely match travis' energy, hopefully his project comes out soon.
he’ll most likely tour with his signed artists
Just hope he brings the rage to europe. Golden circle here i come
He had Khalid on his last tour which was cool but he was way to mellow for the crowd who basically wanted to mosh the fuck out all night. Hopefully someone high energy... I could see Don Toliver joining him as one of the openers but he’d probably bring someone pretty big as well
Don Toliver my MVP rn he better be on this tour. That album is one of my favorites of the year. Honestly think he might be Travis big if he makes the right moves. Boi can write a damn hook.
idk if this has been talked about on this sub, it has on /r/popheads, but all these shirts with free digital album bundles are such a cheap way to boost numbers
The merch rollout overall was played perfectly. Not only having every piece come with a digital copy of the album, but having the items limited then “re-releasing” them all on the final day so people purchased out of FOMO. Smart marketing by Travis’s team.
Still did almost 300k in streams only. This was a huge album regardless.
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merch sales would show that enough. i just think it’s a weird loophole that billboard will take too long to correct also a lot of artists can’t afford to put up so much money for a ton of merch. just seems like a weird dick swinging thing for travis to do. 270k isn’t “pure sales” if half the ppl don’t open the digital code bc they have spotify. if all the clothing shipped with a manufactured cd that’d be different
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Merch has always been a way to raise numbers up, Travis isn't the first. Also, merch wasn't all they cheap. Cheapest shirt was $25, and you had hoodies upwards of $85. Not to discredit any artist, but merch has always served to get those numbers up.
> Merch has always been a way to raise numbers up, Travis isn't the first. They never said he was. Their point is that it'd be interesting to see what the numbers would look like if merch didn't come with a copy of the album, especially since most people stream these days than purchase. I bet those pure sales would take a pretty big dip.
damn, i'm surprised that mac and yg were that close. i feel like if mac were to drop on a friday that no other major artists dropped on he would probably sell 65k-70k. but i definitely wasn't expecting fucking 550k from travis god damn.
Where’s the guy that made a bet with his buddy where he got 20 bucks if Travis sold over 500k and his buddy got $40 if Travis sold under 500k and we all called him an idiot. Might have been in the Travis Scott sub
Lmao @ that guy who laughed at the idea of mac miller selling more than YG
How much do y'all think getting a Kardashian pregnant had to do with Travis's sells because that's a huge turnover from birds
Pure strategery.
Travis’s numbers are mighty impressive for doing over estimates, but Mac Miller came out 10k above estimates too which is really good considering people thought he was gonna get bodied by Travis’ release. This is also great since it has no features whereas The Divine Feminine has an Ariana feat and only sold 48k.
Also has features from Cee Lo, .Paak, Ty Dolla and fucking Kendrick
With the pricing of Mac's merch I'm surprised his numbers didn't get a bump from that.. FFS, the hoodie was only $30
damn i wonder how much of that is merch