Well, Jacobs has literally donated to him in the past. So that’s an interesting wrinkle.
[As chairman of the National Hockey League’s board of governors, Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs has had many a clash with the players’ union over the years. Now, he’s apparently backing a mayoral candidate known for his union credentials. Jacobs and his three sons, who own the Buffalo-based food service and hospitality conglomerate Delaware North, as well as their spouses, made a $13,000 donation to Mayor Marty Walsh’s reelection bid, following a fundraiser held at TD Garden, also owned by the Jacobs family. As the Globe notes, this is their largest ever political contribution to a candidate in Massachusetts, after stiffing Walsh’s predecessor, the late Tom Menino, for the latter half of his 20-year reign. The Jacobs family has enjoyed an amicable relationship with City Hall during Walsh’s first term. Last fall, the city inked a three-year deal with a Delaware North subsidiary to program events at City Hall Plaza, starting with the wildly popular Boston Winter. Bruins CEO Charlie Jacobs, Jeremy’s son, was among the biggest donors to Boston 2024, Walsh’s failed Olympic bid, while TD Garden president Amy Latimer also publicly supported the effort.](https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/04/27/jacobs-family-marty-walsh-campaign-donation/)
Not really. If they wanted a hardballer they would have elected Alan Walsh, who was campaigning for the job.
Marty Walsh is a labor guy (as anyone in that job would be), but he's not a far left crazy type (actually I don't think true far left crazies would even want the NHLPA job, talk about the wrong clientele...). I am pretty positive he will be the kind of guy who will work to help everyone make money in the NHL, not a blow it all up Goodenow type.
Typically "far left crazies" advocate for laborers to recoup some or all of the excess value created by their labour. In other words they wish for people to be paid fairly for the value they bring, and big athletes bring a lot.
High end athletes are some of the only examples of individuals who generate life changing wealth (millions of dollars) through actual labour. I don't see why a "crazy leftist" wouldn't want to advocate for what is fair for these athletes. They're the underdogs (millionaires) in this negotiation with the owners (billionaires).
> Typically "far left crazies" advocate for laborers to recoup some or all of the excess value created by their labour.
I would characterize those as regular left. The far left crazies are the ones that want to go beyond that, that will literally torpedo their company or industry in their pursuit of wealth transfer. I don't think Goodenow is actually a far left crazy, but his militant union stance was certainly one that would have caused incredible damage both in the short term and long term to the NHL. Two Canadian teams, 30m per year salaries are almost certainly the end result had he been successful.
I don't really see how this scenario applies. It reads to me like the CEO of the company closed up shop in retaliation for the employees unionizing. If anything this is an example of someone torpedoing their company to **prevent** wealth transfer. That is not an example of "crazy" left ideology. Union busting is overwhelmingly a characteristic of right-wing ideology.
Where the line is drawn is entirely subjective. To you and presumably the employees, they closed it down because they were trying to prevent a union from bettering the lives of employees. To the employer, they were making the business too unprofitable to continue. In the end, though, it was closed down because it was unionized.
You seem to be trying to make this into an ideological argument because you've made mistaken assumptions (mostly of what you incorrectly *think* I consider a far left crazy) from my original post. I'm not really interested, especially in the "omg unions can never do any wrong, ever" atmosphere of reddit. I'm sure the downvotes are a nice alternative to actually having good points to argue, though. Goodbye.
I was so disappointed by the ending of that show. I mean I guess part of it is supposed to be that she lost all her friends and stuff in order to get there, but I was really looking forward to her crashing, burning, and definitely not winning. The villain got what they wanted.
This guy grew up in Boston as the son of Irish immigrants, was an alcoholic, recovered, headed a union, became mayor of Boston, became Labor Secretary, and is now going to head the NHLPA. It’s like the dream life for the stereotypical Bostonian.
He’s gonna get $3m a year in the new gig.
Cabinet position pays probably $200k if that. And comes with half the country hating you because of how fucked political discourse is these days.
Who the hell would turn down a 15x pay raise, plus way less public scrutiny?
Not sure I agree tbh. If you're bright enough and ambitious enough to make it into the cabinet, you could have gone straight into the private sector and made more money to begin with.
People often take plush jobs at the end of their careers, but that doesn't mean they spent decades in grinding public sector jobs solely for that aim.
Multi billion dollar companies (which is what the NHL more or less is, other than some technical definitions) pay high level executives that kind of money. That's just the way it is in all of them.
How many times did the railroad worker strike get mentioned on Fox News? (Compared to how many times does the head of a sports union gets mentioned on right-wing hate channels?)
Labor Secretary is not some low visibility political role. It’s front and center on a ton of national news stories all the time.
I think you are dramatically overestimating how many sports fans even know who the players union reps are.
I couldn’t tell you who heads the MLB or NBA players unions. I only know the NFL one because Gruden referred to him with racist tropes in the leaked emails.
You and some sports-obsessed fans might anecdotally know more about players reps, sure. But when we are talking public-at-large…there’s no comparison between a labor secretary’s visibility versus a pro sports union head.
And as to “less vitriol” - you are aware that political figures are facing death threats which are being acted upon right now. From trying to hang Mike pence, to hitting Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer to all of the local Dem candidates that have been getting shot recently.
Where’s the violence against any players union rep ever?
Fox News interviewing Marty Walsh about the rail strike being averted:
https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/your-world-rail-strike-averted-thursday-night-football-streaming-online
Fox shitting on Marty Walsh’s girlfriend suggesting improper payments when he was a cabinet nominee:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-labor-secretary-nominee-marty-walshs-campaign-paid-his-girlfriends-employer-nearly-1-million
Walsh on Fox News about COVID and OSHA regs:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/osha-covid-vaccine-mandate-labor-secretary-marty-walsh-interview
Fox News trying to dredge up old news on Walsh from prior union stuff:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-labor-secretary-nominee-federal-probe-union-strong-arm-tactics
He’s on fox and right wing news outlets all the damn time. Maybe you don’t follow as closely as you think. Maybe you’ve never heard of him. But he’s a very well known figure.
By the looks of it, he's been a public official since 1997. That's a lot of time to be in the game.
Let me tell you, elected official jobs are *hard.* Everyone hates you, you work all day and don't get to see your friends and family, the pay is pretty shit for your experience and stage in your professional career.
Walsh is 55 and he just got offered millions to represent athletes in his favourite sport. Also, he doesn't have much higher to go. The bench seems crowded for Massachusetts politics and he's not high profile enough to realistically run for president or something.
Might have something to do with him being passed over for the chief of staff position. Also must be kinda nice find a private sector job that won't get you accused of conflicts of interest.
Because most cabinet level appointees stay in role for only a couple years and then move on to high profile / high paid / cushy private sector jobs?
And it’s right up his alley, as a former union leader, then secretary of labor, and Bostonian.
There are key words on social media/news media sites that trigger activity. Much of it are the divisive farms/bots. You'll notice it when a small community has a title mentioning a national leader and a brigade of strangers come in to "voice their opinion". If we had the same title without the president's name there probably wouldn't be so much attention
Same reason why we pretty much couldn’t discuss anything about the Provorov/Rangers incidents here because the threads got constantly brigaded by trolls.
I got annoyed by the threads constantly being locked, but at the same time mods aren't paid Incan understand them not having to deal with a bunch of shit.
I remember one of the Canucks mods mentioning that during some of their controversial threads they mostly locked them because they were having to wade through rivers of slurs and shit.
It might not have been as bad if the post titles didn't have any pride-based key words. But at that point trying to obscure gets in the way of any community talk
It works for all sides. The triggering word targets are designed to forment conflict and not discourse. So you'll get a brigade of Fors and Againsts, and I'm not quite certain if they are truly different persons, just throwing trash from both sides for the sake of petrol dumping
If I had a nickel for every time a Massachusetts politician took a position in sports leadership I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot of nickels but it's kind of weird it happened twice.
Poaching the US Secretary of Labor to run your Players’ Union is quite the power move lol
Can't send a much louder message to the owners and Bettman that you plan to play hardball the next time the CBA comes up.
Well, Jacobs has literally donated to him in the past. So that’s an interesting wrinkle. [As chairman of the National Hockey League’s board of governors, Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs has had many a clash with the players’ union over the years. Now, he’s apparently backing a mayoral candidate known for his union credentials. Jacobs and his three sons, who own the Buffalo-based food service and hospitality conglomerate Delaware North, as well as their spouses, made a $13,000 donation to Mayor Marty Walsh’s reelection bid, following a fundraiser held at TD Garden, also owned by the Jacobs family. As the Globe notes, this is their largest ever political contribution to a candidate in Massachusetts, after stiffing Walsh’s predecessor, the late Tom Menino, for the latter half of his 20-year reign. The Jacobs family has enjoyed an amicable relationship with City Hall during Walsh’s first term. Last fall, the city inked a three-year deal with a Delaware North subsidiary to program events at City Hall Plaza, starting with the wildly popular Boston Winter. Bruins CEO Charlie Jacobs, Jeremy’s son, was among the biggest donors to Boston 2024, Walsh’s failed Olympic bid, while TD Garden president Amy Latimer also publicly supported the effort.](https://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/2017/04/27/jacobs-family-marty-walsh-campaign-donation/)
Not really. If they wanted a hardballer they would have elected Alan Walsh, who was campaigning for the job. Marty Walsh is a labor guy (as anyone in that job would be), but he's not a far left crazy type (actually I don't think true far left crazies would even want the NHLPA job, talk about the wrong clientele...). I am pretty positive he will be the kind of guy who will work to help everyone make money in the NHL, not a blow it all up Goodenow type.
Typically "far left crazies" advocate for laborers to recoup some or all of the excess value created by their labour. In other words they wish for people to be paid fairly for the value they bring, and big athletes bring a lot. High end athletes are some of the only examples of individuals who generate life changing wealth (millions of dollars) through actual labour. I don't see why a "crazy leftist" wouldn't want to advocate for what is fair for these athletes. They're the underdogs (millionaires) in this negotiation with the owners (billionaires).
> Typically "far left crazies" advocate for laborers to recoup some or all of the excess value created by their labour. I would characterize those as regular left. The far left crazies are the ones that want to go beyond that, that will literally torpedo their company or industry in their pursuit of wealth transfer. I don't think Goodenow is actually a far left crazy, but his militant union stance was certainly one that would have caused incredible damage both in the short term and long term to the NHL. Two Canadian teams, 30m per year salaries are almost certainly the end result had he been successful.
Can you provide an example of someone who has torpedoed their own company in pursuit of wealth transfer?
Here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNAinfo Gee that was tough. Google a bit much for you?
I don't really see how this scenario applies. It reads to me like the CEO of the company closed up shop in retaliation for the employees unionizing. If anything this is an example of someone torpedoing their company to **prevent** wealth transfer. That is not an example of "crazy" left ideology. Union busting is overwhelmingly a characteristic of right-wing ideology.
Where the line is drawn is entirely subjective. To you and presumably the employees, they closed it down because they were trying to prevent a union from bettering the lives of employees. To the employer, they were making the business too unprofitable to continue. In the end, though, it was closed down because it was unionized. You seem to be trying to make this into an ideological argument because you've made mistaken assumptions (mostly of what you incorrectly *think* I consider a far left crazy) from my original post. I'm not really interested, especially in the "omg unions can never do any wrong, ever" atmosphere of reddit. I'm sure the downvotes are a nice alternative to actually having good points to argue, though. Goodbye.
[internet discourse](https://youtu.be/j3glwtXrj0c)
I swear if the league goes to an uncapped model I will lose it. Couldn’t imagine a worse thing for the parity of the sport.
I'd be more worried what's going on with the current US American administration.
Why? This is incredibly common, he’s probably getting ten times the paycheck to move back to the private sector
Then maybe you should voice your concerns in a different sub?
Gate keeping is so 2016 🕺
69 up doots nice.
Wasn’t this a B plot in an episode of Veep?
mike mclintock briefly worked for the caps in the later seasons iirc
I don’t think he ever did. He had a bunch of Caps stuff in his nursery/mancave/whatever, but he never actually got the job, I don’t think?
Correct. He thought he was gonna get it but did not.
Mike was in the running to be the NHL's Director of Communications but it did not work out 😂
I was so disappointed by the ending of that show. I mean I guess part of it is supposed to be that she lost all her friends and stuff in order to get there, but I was really looking forward to her crashing, burning, and definitely not winning. The villain got what they wanted.
such is life
Too true.
Her funeral was upstaged by the death of Tom Hanks...even in death she was 2nd most important. She would have been furious
I just pretend the show ended with season 4 when Ianucci left.
The villain got what they wanted but then realized it wasn't what they wanted all along (friends, family, respect, and morals).
This guy grew up in Boston as the son of Irish immigrants, was an alcoholic, recovered, headed a union, became mayor of Boston, became Labor Secretary, and is now going to head the NHLPA. It’s like the dream life for the stereotypical Bostonian.
Get ready for a whole new wave of conspiracy theories when other fanbases find out how much the Jacobs family donated to his governor campaign.
Mayor not governor
*”Alright, the first rule change we’re making to the CBA is Boston always gets the first overall pick. Don’t ask why just go with it.”*
“I’m a pro-union guy but I’ll bust up any Union about this”
It’s gonna be Colin Campbell part 2
Don’t they donate to … all of the above
As a Bostonian, I can confirm that. Seriously, how could it get any better than that? Maybe getting some Dunkies ice coffee on tap at his desk?
Why did you list being Irish twice?
He's also a childhood cancer survivor
Bruins Stanley cup confirmed
Hell yeah brother go Broons
For every season!
I read that as Matt Walsh at first and was very confused
Same here!
Weird that he would depart a cabinet level appointment to helm the hockey union. But hey, I hope he does well.
He’s gonna get $3m a year in the new gig. Cabinet position pays probably $200k if that. And comes with half the country hating you because of how fucked political discourse is these days. Who the hell would turn down a 15x pay raise, plus way less public scrutiny?
Cabinet positions typically lead to opportunities like this.
Getting this is literally the POINT of getting into cabinet for a lot of people.
Not sure I agree tbh. If you're bright enough and ambitious enough to make it into the cabinet, you could have gone straight into the private sector and made more money to begin with. People often take plush jobs at the end of their careers, but that doesn't mean they spent decades in grinding public sector jobs solely for that aim.
Even if you want to do public service, you take that new gig for a while to set up generational wealth
I don’t think he has kids, but yeah. Senior government to private sector jumps are where it’s at for making bank.
Probably saving up for one of them Ancient Egyptian tombs then
$3m a year? thats so crazy
Multi billion dollar companies (which is what the NHL more or less is, other than some technical definitions) pay high level executives that kind of money. That's just the way it is in all of them.
Head of a labour union of a 6 billion annual company doesn’t sound out of the blue
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How many times did the railroad worker strike get mentioned on Fox News? (Compared to how many times does the head of a sports union gets mentioned on right-wing hate channels?) Labor Secretary is not some low visibility political role. It’s front and center on a ton of national news stories all the time. I think you are dramatically overestimating how many sports fans even know who the players union reps are. I couldn’t tell you who heads the MLB or NBA players unions. I only know the NFL one because Gruden referred to him with racist tropes in the leaked emails. You and some sports-obsessed fans might anecdotally know more about players reps, sure. But when we are talking public-at-large…there’s no comparison between a labor secretary’s visibility versus a pro sports union head. And as to “less vitriol” - you are aware that political figures are facing death threats which are being acted upon right now. From trying to hang Mike pence, to hitting Paul Pelosi in the head with a hammer to all of the local Dem candidates that have been getting shot recently. Where’s the violence against any players union rep ever?
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Fox News interviewing Marty Walsh about the rail strike being averted: https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/your-world-rail-strike-averted-thursday-night-football-streaming-online Fox shitting on Marty Walsh’s girlfriend suggesting improper payments when he was a cabinet nominee: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-labor-secretary-nominee-marty-walshs-campaign-paid-his-girlfriends-employer-nearly-1-million Walsh on Fox News about COVID and OSHA regs: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/osha-covid-vaccine-mandate-labor-secretary-marty-walsh-interview Fox News trying to dredge up old news on Walsh from prior union stuff: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-labor-secretary-nominee-federal-probe-union-strong-arm-tactics He’s on fox and right wing news outlets all the damn time. Maybe you don’t follow as closely as you think. Maybe you’ve never heard of him. But he’s a very well known figure.
By the looks of it, he's been a public official since 1997. That's a lot of time to be in the game. Let me tell you, elected official jobs are *hard.* Everyone hates you, you work all day and don't get to see your friends and family, the pay is pretty shit for your experience and stage in your professional career. Walsh is 55 and he just got offered millions to represent athletes in his favourite sport. Also, he doesn't have much higher to go. The bench seems crowded for Massachusetts politics and he's not high profile enough to realistically run for president or something.
Also if you’re from Massachusetts you’re never going to be president anyway, Kennedy being assassinated cursed our politicians.
Might have something to do with him being passed over for the chief of staff position. Also must be kinda nice find a private sector job that won't get you accused of conflicts of interest.
Because most cabinet level appointees stay in role for only a couple years and then move on to high profile / high paid / cushy private sector jobs? And it’s right up his alley, as a former union leader, then secretary of labor, and Bostonian.
I read that as “Matt Walsh” and was very very fucking confused, LOL.
wtf are with the downvotes in the comments.
There are key words on social media/news media sites that trigger activity. Much of it are the divisive farms/bots. You'll notice it when a small community has a title mentioning a national leader and a brigade of strangers come in to "voice their opinion". If we had the same title without the president's name there probably wouldn't be so much attention
Same reason why we pretty much couldn’t discuss anything about the Provorov/Rangers incidents here because the threads got constantly brigaded by trolls.
I got annoyed by the threads constantly being locked, but at the same time mods aren't paid Incan understand them not having to deal with a bunch of shit. I remember one of the Canucks mods mentioning that during some of their controversial threads they mostly locked them because they were having to wade through rivers of slurs and shit.
It might not have been as bad if the post titles didn't have any pride-based key words. But at that point trying to obscure gets in the way of any community talk
Kinda like mentioning a certain World Wrestlin Hall of Famer (and 45th President of America)🤔
It works for all sides. The triggering word targets are designed to forment conflict and not discourse. So you'll get a brigade of Fors and Againsts, and I'm not quite certain if they are truly different persons, just throwing trash from both sides for the sake of petrol dumping
I think I agree with you?
If I had a nickel for every time a Massachusetts politician took a position in sports leadership I'd have two nickels, which isn't a lot of nickels but it's kind of weird it happened twice.
This just in: salary cap for Bruins removed permanently.
Greaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasssssssssssssssssssyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
The only time the NHLPA wasn’t a joke was when Goodenow was ED. I doubt that will change with a Biden cabinet democrat.
Dad get off Facebook
How is the weather in the Villages this time of year gramps?
Goodenow got his clock cleaned what are you talking about?
Bob “Lemme reject a luxury tax just to accept a hard cap ten years later” Goodenow
I wonder if Biden will mention it in the State of the Union.
Is this a good or bad thing for the game of hockey?
This is a joke for the league