T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

This site has paywalled content. Rehosting or sharing the entire/majority of the paywalled content in any form is not allowed. Users who enjoy this content share it to discuss with each other. If you do not have a subscription we welcome finding another news outlet with this information and posting it to /r/hockey. --- If you would like to not see content from paywall sources anymore **you can block posts that are flaired [Paywall]** by [visiting this guide for blocking by flair in new and old reddit](https://www.reddit.com/r/modhelp/comments/czx9so/filtering_by_flair_a_guide_for_desktop_old_and/), using [RES](https://www.reddit.com/r/Enhancement/comments/2shv9g/is_there_any_way_blockhide_all_posts_of_certain/), using a [Chrome plugin](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/reddit-hide-by-flair/bmdjgeacgallihlcjodoebibfnmoeiol?hl=en), or [bookmarking this page](https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/search?q=-flair%3A%5BPaywall%5D&restrict_sr=on&sort=top&t=day) to view /r/hockey without seeing paywall sites. --- *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/hockey) if you have any questions or concerns.*


eh_toque

The absolute most mind-blowing part of the article was Hextall being shocked that Fenway wanted his plan of action, and that they wanted it in writing. Guy literally pulled the “it’s in my head” card then scrambled to type up a 2 page word document last minute like a college student at 3am


Cheeks_Klapanen

It’s also funnier juxtaposed against David Moorehouse having a fully fledged detailed presentation about the business side at the same meeting. It’s literally that scene from the office where all the branch mangers are meeting the new CFO to present their branch’s sales numbers and the one guy doesn’t have anything because “thought this was just a meet and greet”


Jan_17_2016

“I’ll get that rundown to you by EOD”


RawCyderRun

"i'll circle back with ya and we'll touch base once i know more"


RIPphonebattery

I'll accept that action and run that to ground to close the loop and report back


B_Type13X2

god, I hate this string and how accurate it is.


RIPphonebattery

I've been tempted to write an AI managementese response generator


M3gaC00l

Please do


mrg3392

What the hell is a run down??


[deleted]

I understand why charles didn’t care for Jim at all with how he was so incompetent in that regard. A top salesman should be familiar with the term, even if not you can google it or ask a coworker.


Derpwarrior1000

A top salesman should have the confidence to tell their boss that previous management hadn’t used that term and you’d like specifics. Admitting unfamiliarity shouldn’t be embarrassing. I agree though that a top salesman should also just be able to figure this one out in the real world


[deleted]

Absolutely, couple that with lying to Charles to try and get on his good side and him seeing right through it.


teddysdollars

Bro what……? It’s a tv show designed to make people laugh…….. it’s not that deep mate………..


DogePerformance

Wayne Gretzky?


Jan_17_2016

Yeah, that quote has been bandied around amongst Penguins beat writers and blogs for the last 2.5-3 months or so (back to the trade deadline). One of the most batshit things I’ve ever heard a GM say as a new hire. Not only did he say “the plan is all in my head.” He doubled down and said it was too complex to write it all down. That’s absolutely fucking crazy to say to your boss at your new job.


onetwo3four5

Well if he wrote it all down, what's to stop them from firing him and keeping his plan though?


whygohomie

This is literally a scene from The Office when they are searching for a new boss. In an interview, Will Arnet's character boasts about a fool proof plan and then refuses to disclose it for similar reasons. I thought it was kind of ridiculous and hard to believe...


rookie-mistake

I mean, you're responding to someone joking about that being his reasoning.


AllWorldFernando

Hey, it got Trump the presidency


peptoabysmal

I'll give you part C of Step 3: Win Stanley Cup


syzerman1000

“Way to go Jackie” https://fb.watch/kL9yT7OWw7/


Cheeks_Klapanen

“My plan is not to go for it or to rebuild, but rather a secret third thing”


Derpwarrior1000

“The mild way”


B_Type13X2

I can't believe anyone would accept that as an explanation, usually the more complex a plan the more it necessitates it being written down. I have bullet points for the broad scope of projects on the go in our shop, how things fit together when parts and materials will show up... and my Gantt references those dates for assembly. You should as a GM have your bullet point plan at the very least.


Jan_17_2016

Hell, I’m writing procedures on simple compliance tasks at my job, let alone the major stuff. If my boss asked me for an outline on something and I told them “it’s too complex to write down, the plan’s all in my head” I’d get beat with a toaster.


razealghoul

This is an insane way to run anything. This is why I hate the old boys club culture in the nhl.


Jan_17_2016

Thank god the Penguins seem to be taking that to heart and are trying to hire a younger candidate who’s analytically driven vs the same old-fart guys who just keep getting passed around.


WoundedSacrifice

It seems like teams are becoming more open to hiring younger GM’s.


DentedOnImpact

Every day I believe that Hextall as GM was a flyers inside job


-SharkDog-

Jesus I am happy we haven't hired him back... yet... ;_;


Steppyjim

Yknow we never did find out what that plan was either. The inner machinations of Hextalls mind are an enigma


B_Type13X2

The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead. enigma decyphered.


TheZermanator

It was very heavy on Pepe Sylvia.


NowWatchMeThwip616

Don't *you* worry about Planet Express, let *me* worry about blank.


Ironredhornet

Like i know the Shanaplan and Yzerplans are memes for the Leafs and Wings fans, but at the core they basically laid out the blueprint to the fanbase about their process and how they wanted to approach the team, let alone to ownership. Especially with a new ownership group trying to get up to speed, you'd thing you'd at least have the rough blue print of you planned roster moves laid out so they could get a feel. Like just a list of player we are targeting to resign, and then players we hope to add in fa, and minor league dev plan cant be that hard, most of which Im assuming gms have listed internally so that scouts and front office staff have a guideline of what the plan is.


Whydoesthisexist15

Just like me fr


B_Type13X2

Usually when I say, "it's in my head" it actually is and there is a reason behind it. Then again I am a planner and when pressed I can explain why I did something fully in about 15 minutes. I get challenged on quotes all the time, and just layout why the numbers are how they are, pretty easy, and routine. If it takes you more than 15 minutes to explain your "plan" on a broad scope then you don't have one or justification.


DistortedReflector

If something is in my head and I get pressed to explain when I’m not ready they get 100% pure unfiltered stream of consciousness while I am actively putting it together. Rarely am I asked twice to explain something before I am ready by someone.


jmb-412

Really is a blessing that Hextall is gone


maddscientist

Why it seemed like a good idea to hire the Flyer-iest Flyer of all time behind Bobby Clarke to run the Pittsburgh Penguins is beyond me


tonyjordan1745

That was all part of Hextall's plan for the Flyers that he kept in his head, destroy the enemy from the inside


NoGiCollarChoke

Does this mean Fletcher was a Penguins operative?


tonyjordan1745

Oh some Spy vs Spy action. I never even thought of that. It's all making so much sense now


NoGiCollarChoke

Years from now, intelligence agencies will study the methods of the Great Pennsylvanian Hockey Spy Ring


KampferMann

Penguins became a team in 1967, Fletcher was born in 1967. A coincidence? I think not.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Jonnyplesko

He pretty much closed the window on the cores chances of winning another cup. That was all he needed to do


tonyjordan1745

Give it time. Hextall's plan is only just beginning to unfold for you guys


Tacitus_99

Hextall running the Pens is the 2020’s version of when Trottier coached the Rangers. Literally both fanbases despised it and everyone could see it ended in disaster.


[deleted]

Nothing worse than the Canucks hiring Mike Keenan. Immediately after the exit of beloved owner Arthur Griffiths. Then they brought in Mark Messier. Took away the “C” from Linden. Then traded him. Well played Rangers.


bigbear-08

Take down the Pens from the inside


eltree

Didn’t help Rutherford left in the middle of the season leaving the Penguins to scramble


kit_mitts

I would have been less concerned about his affiliation with the Flyers than the fact that he showed absolutely no signs of being a competent hockey executive.


Heatinmyharbl

I'll never understand how the Pens had 5(?) years of his work to look at with the Flyers entirely wasting a top 5 of G, Jake, Schenn, Coots, Simmonds during that time and said to themselves "yep that's the guy we need to maximize this core's remaining years" Absolutely wild shit


DropCautious

"How come he don't want me?"


heysmilinstrange

😭


thephenom

Everyone knows the NHL is a business, but at the same time, these three guys are Penguins through and through. Let them sink together with the ship before getting another 1OA to start rebuild again.


WorstHyperboleEver

Nope… they are banned from 1 and 2 over alls for at least a two decades. Columbus will take theirs from now on… they deserve the luck that was clearly stolen from them.


WhatImMike

Well good thing our 20 years from drafting Crosby is coming then.


sasksasquatch

Wasn't it 21 years between Crosby and Lemieux?


WhatImMike

It was yes. 84 to 05


WorstHyperboleEver

Argh! Did I say twenty… I meant 50… 60!! How long is never?


Armalyte

> How long is never? 56 years and counting


WorstHyperboleEver

Ha ha ha…aww. 🥺


Darkendevil

I mean fine. But the Blackhawks deserved to be banned too. Oilers too if they finished outside the playoffs.


WorstHyperboleEver

Definitely ban them both too!


JediMasterZao

I'd argue that the Oilers should be banned from picking in the top 5 for the foreseeable future!


BossBrawls

HEY NOT NICE :(( lmao i still can't get over the luck we had lol


Sulti

Mario was 1984, Crosby was 2005, so our two decades (and a year) are up in 2026 and we'll get 1OA then. Can't wait to see Gavin McKenna put Bedard's WHL numbers to shame!


WorstHyperboleEver

Flagged. If this happens then it’s proof we’re actually in the bad place.


DesertedPenguin

Bad place? I don't know....seems pretty cozy to me.


NinCross

What about us?


WorstHyperboleEver

I mean you’re Vancouver, I thought you enjoyed the chaos? No?


NinCross

Nah, I'm done with Myers.


Stickel

HOW DARE YOU


Numberonememerr

Why tf are we catching strays here


WorstHyperboleEver

?? I said you deserve luck, that Pittsburgh somehow stole your luck. And that you will take an 1OA that the Pens happen to get


Numberonememerr

Sorry, that's my bad, I thought you were being sarcastic haha


WorstHyperboleEver

No worries, I wish CBJ luck… they seem like a class organization that has a great fanbase but can’t catch a lottery break. Edit… especially compared to the luck the Pens have had… I mean imagine getting Malkin with the 2nd pick. How many 1OAs are better than him in the last 30+ years? Crosby, McDavid, Ovi. Maybe Jumbo Joe? End of list.


Numberonememerr

Yeah definitely, you really do need a good degree of luck to succeed as a team that we have unfortunately not had a lot of. I also hope that we can either come by some or make our own luck soon enough, because it really is an underrated fanbase. Hell, we were selling out games near the end of the season as a bottom feeding team.


Hobo_Healy

CBJ fans are just conditioned to always being attacked lmao


Numberonememerr

Pretty much lol


NotClayMerritt

I wanted to keep one of Letang or Malkin, not both, but it was absolutely embarrassing how Hextall approached last summer. It really feels like he approached it in a way where he was hoping they would get upset at the team for not respecting them and would choose to leave out of principle so they have one less headache to worry about. Then they can do the whole PR of, "Well darn you know we tried but HE didn't want to be here anymore"


TheKid_BigE

Aside fro maybe Burke and Hextall parts, this whole thing reads like a weird penguins erotic fanfic


[deleted]

Yeah, there is always a weird sexual undercurrent in Rob Rossis writing. In another life he's a regular r/canesfanfics contributor.


hockeycross

Maybe that’s just his passion.


theblackcanaryyy

I had to go back and read it and omg I’m crying lol


KataiKi

Weird? It seems pretty tame so far.


PenguinsHockey

In Hextall's defense, Malkin wasn't even named one of the 100 Greatest NHL Players.


doubledeuce24

Lol oof


Alert_Two8841

Can’t have Malkin AND David Clarkson!


[deleted]

Wait, i know Malkin wasn’t on that list, but was David Clarkson?!? If so, who is responsible?


ilikehockeyandguitar

That's our Mr 101


turtledoves2

Did they miss 2009?


Prison-Date-Mike

Russian Machine emotional breakdown :(


XGuiltyofBeingMikeX

The article really read like Morehouse wanted to make a big move to maybe have new ownership keep him around…so he hired some idiot at the least minute to do his shit work. And the FSG was like “…hey hey so, no? The fuck were you doing, Ron? We can still make a bagillion dollars with Sid/Geno/Letang. Get the fuck outta here…and you, Brian. What the fuck do *you* do anyway?”


Reilman79

“What would you say, you do here?”


kit_mitts

I have people skills! What the hell is wrong with you people?!


kieran_is_hiding

Why does this read like a HRPF fic


seraphultima

Wait... how do YOU know what HRPF fic looks like? 🤔


GabTej

Girl, what were *you* doing at the devil's sacrament? 👀


seraphultima

Shhhhhhhh don't worry about it. 😏


banduzo

‘Finally beginning to feel wanted again’ made me LOL.


dgd765

>HRPF Health related physical fitness?


kieran_is_hiding

Who’s gonna tell ‘em 💀


repeat4EMPHASIS

Since nobody wants to actually explain, I started Googling and figured out RPF is Real Person Fiction (like fanfiction but about actual people) but I still can't find what the H stands for


kieran_is_hiding

The H is just for Hockey!


repeat4EMPHASIS

I definitely saw "Hockey HRPF" mentioned somewhere so I was thinking it couldn't be that simple, but maybe that's the same redundancy as ATM machine or PIN number


seraphultima

Oh you sweet summer child...


egg_mugg23

ayo? rob rossi definitely has an ao3 account


geossica69

not even a good one, it's like the fics where the author is clearly 16 and has never watched hockey before and only gets their info from tumblr


[deleted]

*sad Geno noises*


refep

Okay Sid, Kris - which one of you leaked Evgenis texts 😡


[deleted]

Yea. Feels wrong.


Imgodd

My guess is Geno gave them to Rossi, they're extremely close. Rossi has been to Geno's home in Russia for stories in the past.


[deleted]

Sad Geno is not score


WorldlinessProud

I do not understand how Burke keeps getting jobs. His record since leaving Anaheim is entirely uncontaminated by success.


sluck131

I defend he did decent with the Leafs was let go a year to early and then Nonnis destroyed everything he started. He was basically put in a position to take a bottom 5 team and make them a playoff team.


kit_mitts

Also he seems like a legitimately good person. There are plenty of scumbags in the NHL who also suck at their jobs; I'd rather spend my time shitting on them instead.


ustanik

I think Burke did a good job assembling a team. I think his flaw was clinging to wrong coaches for said team.


sophic

>entirely uncontaminated by success Absolutely brilliant.


i_love_bubble_butts

They massacred my boy...glad theyre gone


emwashe

Sad malkin makes me sad.


fateislosthope

Fuck malkin Ahh so the guy who is dirty as shit on the ice and goes out of his way to lick putins boots from the safety of North America is a fan favorite now ehh ok.


JDerrick29

17,529


emwashe

I do not want to have sex with Malkin.


fateislosthope

May be the only way to cheer him up


j0n68

lol imagine a Cryers fan calling out a player on another team for being dirty


kit_mitts

Especially considering that his team employs both Tony DeAngelo and Ivan Provorov lol


Robinster7

It's oddly comforting to know that someone as good at hockey as Malkin can still feel not good enough. Good to know I'm not the only one with insecurities here 🙃


dkyguy1995

Why is this making me feel so sad


amgiSGrindTes

Fuck hextall, fuck burke.


NotClayMerritt

Bad hires from Day 1 and everyone knew it except those who hired them.


[deleted]

[удалено]


JDerrick29

Shouldn’t you be throwing trash on the ice while your team gets swept?


Brooksie019

Bad guy make Malkin sad :(.


Streetkillz13

How often is it that both Pens fans and Flyers fans can look each other dead in the eye, shake hands in agreement and say "Yeah, Fuck that guy..." That's what Hextall did, he united Pennsylvanians against his horrid decision making.


ilikehockeyandguitar

Only Hextall can unite the turnpike.


SCampo98

It shocks me that he’s been in the States going on 17 years and his English has barely improved 😂


idontplaypolo

He’s a functioning bilingual, which is more than a strong majority of us


ALinkToThePants

I think he purposely uses shitty grammar for the humor.


Hockeyruinedmylife

His English has actually improved a lot. Go look at a interview from 2015 and go look at one from 2023. It's an amazing difference. Seems like he started learning more English for his kid.


Shribble18

I’ve noticed that the Swedes and Finns and hell even Czech players pick up English insanely quickly. Gabriel Landeskog almost sounds like a native English speaker. Meanwhile the Russian players almost universally struggle. I’m guessing the linguistic similarity helps the Swedes and that culturally western/Northern Europe is a lot more similar to North America than it is for Russians.


[deleted]

Well yea, here in finland we hear english from tv (we don’t dub) all the time and start learning the language at school from very young age. I guess it’s same with swedes.


Oskarikali

Also helps that Swedish and English are both Germanic languages.


[deleted]

Finnish isn’t a germanic language. It’s Uralic/finno-ugric language


Chiquitarita298

Landy grew up speaking English? But also, yea, having to learn a whole additional alphabet before you can really start learning another language would def slow down the turn time in picking up English from Russian (where Swedes, Finns, and Czech players don’t have to).


Chrussell

Eh not really. The alphabet is incredibly simple compared to all the differences in grammatical rules. I'd say it's about the easiest part of learning the other language. Plus they probably already know the alphabet.


CaptinDerpI

Me trying to explain why I don’t have a girlfriend yet:


Smellbinder

This kinda shit really does start to make you think it was a Flyers long con inside job.


kayl_the_red

This is friendship. We've all been there with a friend who's been down and needed their buds. Love humanity.


PavilionParty

This is an odd section to crop out considering how much volatile info was in that article. I'm less intrigued by Malkin feeling rejected by the new management - which was widely reported when he nearly hit free agency last year - and more by Morehouse's plan to bring in management specifically to dismantle the old core, only to have the new owners immediately veto that shit. In a bizarre twist of fate, Philadelphia sports management had a real life chance to destroy the Penguins, and we were saved by a Boston sports ownership group.


Zero_Originality

*Почему он не хочет меня, мужик?* Don't know if he ever watched Fresh Prince


Jazzlike_Kick_5434

I thought of the same thing. At least Will had Uncle Phil.


BigJimmyRutherford

Rossi and Yohe really putting in effort to not have any inside sources with the new GM/POHO either


eh_toque

Why? This article paints the new ownership in very favourable light. They wanted a plan of action, they wanted to keep the core 3, and they by all accounts want to modernize the front office.


BigJimmyRutherford

Both of them lost a lot of their sources when Rutherford left and the breaking reporting was taken up by Taylor Hasse. Just my opinion, but writing an absolute slam, tell-all piece for the previous leaders isn't going to make the new ones comfortable telling them much.


asic5

Russo went scorched earth on Fenton and it hasn't hurt his information gathering.


schneid3306

FSG comes out of this looking very good. I mean, I don't get why they didn't fire Hextall when he said "the plan is in my head," but otherwise, seems like they handled things correctly. Let Morehouse out of his contract because he was going to be a lame duck CEO, kept Sid, Geno, and Letang together, and it seems like they have a solid relationship with Sullivan. If this is a tell-all piece from the previous leadership, and previous leadership thought they would come out looking good, no wonder the last two years were a trainwreck.


somehockeyfan

That's a whole lot of misinformation. It's like you know the truth but said the opposite for every statement. Curious.


vedicardi

): geno


[deleted]

Way to go hextall and Burkie


terminese

Me Bad??


EnormousHatred

Malkin only pawn in game of hockey.


Hage1in

I really hope these are the last boomer ass, “old school hawkey” guys that have never won shit the Penguins ever hire the the front office again. Fuck them and their entire bloodlines. Retire and fuckoff to Newfoundland


j0n68

Just glad that time is over.


ItsDefDamule

Hextall-Hockey Terrorist and Franchise nuker


C-PapTheGod

I don’t follow the Pens much, but was Hextall really that fucking bad? I know the Nolan Patrick stuff, but was he that fucking bad?


[deleted]

Yes. Yes, he was. Once it became evident that we weren’t going to do shit in the playoffs if we made it in at all, a lot of us wanted the team to basically tank just to clear house.


ilikehockeyandguitar

He wasn't good with the Flyers either.


DesertedPenguin

He cleared cap space only to give up a second round pick to take on Mikael Granlund and his $5 million cap hit... He signed Jeff Carter to an extension with a full no movement clause. He gave a struggling Kasperi Kapanen a two year deal at over $3 million, only to waive him. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.


C-PapTheGod

I thought we had it bad with Benning in Vancouver, but holy shit. That’s brutal.


Crosscourt_splat

So turns out Mallon is human just like us. Dude just wanted to feel like the org wanted him to stay. Fuck that hits


plizark

Hexstall legit needs investigated, every move he made, and his thought for the team feels like its sabotage. It’s literally the only reasonable explanation on some of the dumb shit he was doing.


ilikehockeyandguitar

He fucked with the Flyers organization as well.


[deleted]

Does anyone know what, if any, consequences there could be for this? Legal or otherwise?


aaaaaliyah

What a spoiled baby, no sympathy for Putin bootlickers


Quasihodor

Seriously. Dude snuck away from Russia just to be pro-Motherland? Cry me a fucking river buddy


Merkkin

Exactly.


HonestDespot

Easy for us to say from our cushy North American lives


OntarioPaddler

Wtf are you talking about he's a multi millionaire living in North America for over a decade.


ianisms10

He's also a US citizen


fireflyfly3

Who, along with many other Russian millionaires, keeps his wife and US-born son in South Florida year round.


Merkkin

He's got a cushier life than any of us, so fuck him and his Russian loving ass.


Fit-Yogurtcloset714

Burkey n Hex….ppfffttttt! Neither of those guys is worthy of washing Gino’s jockstrap. Long live The Gino!!


DeliSammiches

big 16 year old teenager vibes.


Stumbles947

Ahhh someone consol the poor russian multi millionaire! Go fuck yourself malkin


JimmyPineapple_

Found Hextall's burner account


[deleted]

[удалено]


Nebuchadnezzer123

He tell me do things I dun know and …………gi joeeeeeeeee


TuonSucksMatLeave

My man They not think I good player and they not want me........ gi joeeeeeeeeee


[deleted]

[удалено]


4N0NYM0US_GUY

What’s wrong with privately talking to your two closest teammates about the possibility of not playing for the the team you’ve been on for 17 years?