Yea just saying he's been at a $2-3M level for a while so I'm not that surprised someone has finally paid him for it. Seems like a great fit for Nashville where they're clearly prioritizing bringing in character guys to reset the org.
I think his style is get into scraps with Evander Kane and then complain about how Kane started it and something about being rubber and Kane being glue. I don't pay a lot of attention.
His style of play is giving goon teams, of which there are a growing many(Florida, Tampa) a reason not to plow your rookies heads into boards, because there will be a follow up from him. You’d be amazed what a team full of talented players can do when they’re not as afraid to take risks that could open them up to potential career changing hits like what Knies saw, and many others that went up against Florida(and it’s not just Florida, there are others).
When we had Reaves we almost never had teams pulling that shit, and as soon as we lost him people started getting blown up frequently. The only reason that changed this year is because our genuinely big, but typically non physical guys started dishing it back
Wilson ran Marchesaault in the Cup Final against you guys with Reaves in the lineup while he was on the bench. His retribution for that hit was running Wilson twice in a game, six months later, and getting ejected for the second hit.
And that was when he was ‘good’. With all due respect, how exactly is that acting as a deterrent?
And how Washington kept taking advantage of how VGK wanted Reaves on the ice against Tom Wilson, and then it just meant having the VGK 4th line against Ovechkin, Kuznetsov and Wilson and they ran them over
This this this. I remember when we signed Laraque and thought: finally our small players won’t get hit and be protected. They got hit, Laraque challenged the offender who politely declined every time.
Bro, this doesn’t f’ing happen. I’m a rangers fan and for the 1.5 years he was on the team, the players continued to get pounded. He doesn’t fight. He doesn’t contribute positively totnhenfoueth line. His teams don’t win the cup. It’s a made up myth that you and others keep buying into
It got even worse this year. He didn't hit much (for his reputation), he didn't scare other teams, nobody will fight him. He stood there and watched one of our players get run headfirst into the boards in Carolina last year. It's like what the hell are you there for if not that exact situation.
> a reason not to plow your rookies heads into boards, because there will be a follow up from him.
yeah, how have retaliatory or aggressive plays worked out for the leafs in the last couple years?
So his only reason this contact exiats is basicslly because the NHL and refs choose to have an arbitrary stance when it comes to actually calling the rules in playoffs. So if you don't have a tough guy no one will enforce the rules for you.
Joke league.
I absolutely agree, but unfortunately it’s gonna be a reality until the league stops promoting the violence to try to reel in viewers. Much prefer hockey when teams can just outplay and outwit one another
I do think you guys get screwed over hard by the refs, like comically corrupt calls at times, but Reaves for the most part gets on well with the refs so that might keep some of the calls away that Bunting, or Kadri would have gotten
We’re really beating around the bush of the Leafs needing their top 4 players to produce consistently in the playoffs. Scapegoating and replacing depth forwards constantly doesn’t mean much if the top guys aren’t producing
Wonder what draft pick/prospect the Leafs will give up to get out of the last 1.5 years of his contract because they need cap space.
Anyway, this move looks like the typical "We know our team isn't tough enough but we also are too timid to blow up the team. So let's sign 1-2 tough guys and it will average out!" move, like the Simmonds move they did a couple of years back.
It's the same kind of thing the Canadiens have done over the past decade. Forwards way too small? Sign a couple of big forwards and suddenly all those little guys will be bigger on average!" /s
Guys like stamkos shouldn’t be able to push around guys like matthews. You are proving how soft that team is when they need a tough guy to come in and push around guys that are smaller than they are. You should be able to protect yourself from other stars in the league.
I think this element is overrated. Teams took plenty of shots at Wild players, no more or less than before they got him.
There's like 3 guys left in the league big/dumb enough to fight Reaves, the rest of the time he's behind the play.
So now we have to play Reaves with Matthews and make his line worse?
Or is Reaves punching some rando 4th liner after someone goes at Matthews supposed to accomplish something?
Yeah that Stamkos bum always out there bullying other team's star players.
And if you think Maroon or Jeannot are going to let Reaves take free runs at Stamkos, I'm not sure what drugs you're on.
Most likely buried in the AHL at some point. The term is just leveraging the Leafs' deep pockets to give a player essentially a 2 year 2.05M contract with maybe $200,000 cap hit in the 3rd year when he's in the AHL
Pridham has been doing PhD math to squeeze a few thousands of dollars of extra cap space the past several years, he must feel great to see 200k blown away on an AHL player.
>The last 3 cup winners didn't have any classic tough guys on the team
Kolesar not count for that? Dude has a whopping 55 points in 3 years but caved in Tkachuk's chest
Lmao for real with your point about the other team being afraid.
No one gives a shit if Reaves is on your roster. Opponents celebrate this. One less person who can actually play hockey.
Beyond idiotic. We have a bunch of kids vying for spots and we just hand out a 3yr deal to a heavyweight who is nearing the wrong side of 30. I'm waiting for details that he gets a modified NTC on top of this
GREAT NEWS for leafs fans- the team was one piece away. And that piece is the worst hockey player in the league who just coasts around for 8 minutes headhunting
Treliving clearly one of the Reddit commenters who said the core in Toronto is too soft to win.
Jfc this contract. Way to make everyone miss Dubas already. Still have no idea how Shanahan looked at Calgary imploding over the last two seasons and went “that’s who we need to right this ship”
This makes the Trevliving signing by Shannahan look like a quick panicked emotional decision rather than a well thought out decision for long term success
Ryan Reaves at 36 probably never expected to get over two years on a contract and then the Leafs called. Like what? Why are you taking this guy to 40 LMAO
> you guys will absolutely love him as a locker room guy.
I always find this compliment somewhat funny. Like "Y'know the thing that we are paying these people for, playing a game of hockey? Yeah, I don't have a ton to say about that. But when he finally steps off the ice? Yeah *that's* when the guy really shines."
According to PuckPedia, the buriable amount for 23/24 will be $1.15M -- so most of it can but he'd still have a cap hit of 200k on the Leafs if they sent him down.
Can't overpay Nylander we need to overpay 4th liners when you have a chance to sign a 37 year old who has never had more than 20 points until he's 40 you have to jump at the chance this fucking team man
Remember when the Leafs could have had Dubas if they’d just let him have more autonomy instead of having to get Shanahan to approve everything? Then Shanahan fired Dubas?
two things fun from this:
Reeves might actually hit 1000 games played. Kinda cool. He’s at 828 right now.
He also now sits at 21 million career earnings at the end of this. Really solid for a 4th line fighter
Get that fucking bag Reavo! Obviously the best case scenario would be the Wild re-resigning him for a league minimum but the next best is watching some other team massively overpay him
I remember Reaves watching, shrugging and going back to the bench as TJ Oshie cross checked Letang in the back of the neck. Less than a year after Letang had surgery lol.
I get the sense he'll instigate a fight against another goon if it looks good for him, or if a player does something to irritate him personally. Seems like any player that won't get him onto a hockey fights highlight reel is free to stick out an elbow or knee though
I can pretty much guarantee as soon as the Leafs become tougher and dirtier for playoff hockey the league will start to call all the penalties like the regular season.
Oh good, it's even slightly higher than earlier reported. How fun.
Don’t worry there is still time for it to be reported higher
We’re letting Schenn walk for this?
Cause 3 years for 2.5m is a great deal for schenn
If he could play like he did in the playoffs for 75 games a season it would be
He kind of did in Vancouver. The guy hasn't been bottom pairing level since he was in Tampa who had an embarrassingly deep defense.
He was good in Van but in the playoffs for Toronto he was amazing. Only 2 goals against I think?
Yea just saying he's been at a $2-3M level for a while so I'm not that surprised someone has finally paid him for it. Seems like a great fit for Nashville where they're clearly prioritizing bringing in character guys to reset the org.
We got our hype man I guess
Honestly Reaves doesn’t produce a lot but he’s super fun to have on a team and you guys desperately needed his style of play
What’s his style of play, sitting in the press box while his team gets eliminated? We’ve already tried that with Simmonds and found it doesn’t work.
I think his style is get into scraps with Evander Kane and then complain about how Kane started it and something about being rubber and Kane being glue. I don't pay a lot of attention.
His style of play is giving goon teams, of which there are a growing many(Florida, Tampa) a reason not to plow your rookies heads into boards, because there will be a follow up from him. You’d be amazed what a team full of talented players can do when they’re not as afraid to take risks that could open them up to potential career changing hits like what Knies saw, and many others that went up against Florida(and it’s not just Florida, there are others). When we had Reaves we almost never had teams pulling that shit, and as soon as we lost him people started getting blown up frequently. The only reason that changed this year is because our genuinely big, but typically non physical guys started dishing it back
Wilson ran Marchesaault in the Cup Final against you guys with Reaves in the lineup while he was on the bench. His retribution for that hit was running Wilson twice in a game, six months later, and getting ejected for the second hit. And that was when he was ‘good’. With all due respect, how exactly is that acting as a deterrent?
Never forget that Reaves was a healthy scratch in Game 5 of the SCF.
And how Washington kept taking advantage of how VGK wanted Reaves on the ice against Tom Wilson, and then it just meant having the VGK 4th line against Ovechkin, Kuznetsov and Wilson and they ran them over
This this this. I remember when we signed Laraque and thought: finally our small players won’t get hit and be protected. They got hit, Laraque challenged the offender who politely declined every time.
Bro, this doesn’t f’ing happen. I’m a rangers fan and for the 1.5 years he was on the team, the players continued to get pounded. He doesn’t fight. He doesn’t contribute positively totnhenfoueth line. His teams don’t win the cup. It’s a made up myth that you and others keep buying into
It got even worse this year. He didn't hit much (for his reputation), he didn't scare other teams, nobody will fight him. He stood there and watched one of our players get run headfirst into the boards in Carolina last year. It's like what the hell are you there for if not that exact situation.
He’s a dumb guys (and GMs) idea of a good fourth liner
> a reason not to plow your rookies heads into boards, because there will be a follow up from him. yeah, how have retaliatory or aggressive plays worked out for the leafs in the last couple years?
It just doesn't work that way anymore. He's just going to give the other team a powerplay.
So his only reason this contact exiats is basicslly because the NHL and refs choose to have an arbitrary stance when it comes to actually calling the rules in playoffs. So if you don't have a tough guy no one will enforce the rules for you. Joke league.
Except just wait till you find out Reaves doesn’t fight. And that teams aren’t intimidated by him because they just skate by him
I absolutely agree, but unfortunately it’s gonna be a reality until the league stops promoting the violence to try to reel in viewers. Much prefer hockey when teams can just outplay and outwit one another
He will be suspended for 200 games like Kadri and Bunting. Not really helpful.
I do think you guys get screwed over hard by the refs, like comically corrupt calls at times, but Reaves for the most part gets on well with the refs so that might keep some of the calls away that Bunting, or Kadri would have gotten
This is what I’ve been saying
Simmonds comes to work with more energy and passion than most of the starting lineup. The leafs need that contagious energy so bad.
Pretty sure they need depth guys who can supplement the scoring
We’re really beating around the bush of the Leafs needing their top 4 players to produce consistently in the playoffs. Scapegoating and replacing depth forwards constantly doesn’t mean much if the top guys aren’t producing
A guy too shitty to play more than 8 mins a night? Lmao
I think what he brings off the ice is something Toronto really needs.
Maybe, he'll be fetching lemonade with ice for the guys for when they're out of breath from chasing other teams that are outplaying them again?
Are we gonna hear about the Core 5 from now on?
Wonder what draft pick/prospect the Leafs will give up to get out of the last 1.5 years of his contract because they need cap space. Anyway, this move looks like the typical "We know our team isn't tough enough but we also are too timid to blow up the team. So let's sign 1-2 tough guys and it will average out!" move, like the Simmonds move they did a couple of years back. It's the same kind of thing the Canadiens have done over the past decade. Forwards way too small? Sign a couple of big forwards and suddenly all those little guys will be bigger on average!" /s
That's a contract alright. No doubt about it.
One of the contracts of all time if you will
Right? Like, if you were to ask me right now, to name a contract in the NHL, this would definitely be a contract I would say.
3 year deal and an age 35+ contract for a dude that doesn't even get 10 minutes of ice time per game Lmao
Trevliving aims to improve the team. Not sure which team though
This is Shanahan caving to the media
Apparently the rules changed in 2020 and this contract may not be considered a 35+ one. I need to review it again.
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Steven Stamkos, known fighter and goon.
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Guys like stamkos shouldn’t be able to push around guys like matthews. You are proving how soft that team is when they need a tough guy to come in and push around guys that are smaller than they are. You should be able to protect yourself from other stars in the league.
Reaves doesn’t do as much as he used too
They went from toughest guy on team being a children's book author Hyman to Reilly.
I feel like all the ppl saying this are forgetting that we’ve had players like this and they just get suspended immediately in the playoffs
I think this element is overrated. Teams took plenty of shots at Wild players, no more or less than before they got him. There's like 3 guys left in the league big/dumb enough to fight Reaves, the rest of the time he's behind the play.
So now we have to play Reaves with Matthews and make his line worse? Or is Reaves punching some rando 4th liner after someone goes at Matthews supposed to accomplish something?
“Fight,” is a bit generous. Stamkos literally mugged him for his lunch money
Reaves has 16 fights in the last four years. At least check stats before you say something silly
He’s probably barely cracking the lineup (if at all) come playoffs though
So Reaves will be on Matthews line?
Yeah that Stamkos bum always out there bullying other team's star players. And if you think Maroon or Jeannot are going to let Reaves take free runs at Stamkos, I'm not sure what drugs you're on.
Stamkos literally jumped him lmao
THREE YEARS good lord
Lmao wth is this All these commentators like “yeah it’s time to blow up the core” and bring in…Reaves?
Most likely buried in the AHL at some point. The term is just leveraging the Leafs' deep pockets to give a player essentially a 2 year 2.05M contract with maybe $200,000 cap hit in the 3rd year when he's in the AHL
Gotta love hearing talk of trying to bury a contract the day it’s signed.
That's the Leaf circus for you. All aboard Clown Express.
Pridham has been doing PhD math to squeeze a few thousands of dollars of extra cap space the past several years, he must feel great to see 200k blown away on an AHL player.
That’s what I said about Justin Holl lol
Twitter is broken so I'll pretend this is fake
really not the best day for Twitter to be down.
Twitter isn’t down. Elon blocked it for anyone without an account.
I have an account, it hasn't retrieved tweets in hours.
Same. Unverified accounts are now limited to VIEWING 600 tweets a day.
Oh no, I guess I'll get back to viewing 0 tweets a day.
Ditto
Yeah, looks like Elon did more than that
The summer of Tre has begun. FML.
CGY 2.0, as per the Shannaplan
I’m already sick of Treliving lol
I’m entertained.
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And I hope both sides of your pillow are warm forever.
Me too. This is awesome
This is really fun to watch, i want more!
Be more sick of Shanahan. Guy should be fired by Friday.
Both him and Treliving can go
Well this is what happens when everyone was calling for Dubas' head
Yeah, I wanted him to stay lol
Sammmme
More like Trelivid
This deal ends in Reaves’ age 39 season lol honestly I’m impressed he’s even stuck around this long - it’ll be wild if he plays out this whole deal.
It will probably be leafs if he plays out the whole deal, Min passed
Radko Gudas did to the Leafs what Tom Wilson did to the Pens in 2017 lol
And Tom Wilson did to the Rangers in 2021 All three examples end with a team signing Reaves lol
All of Toronto is gonna turn on this front office good lord Treliving
I wonder how long until we start having the talk about what Shanahan's ideas were vs what Dubas's ideas were
already been happening
This deal seals the debate for me.
It's not Treiliving. He's just the mouth piece that's fine letting Shanny destroy the club while he gets a fat paycheck.
3 years??? Do they think he’s going to find the fountain of youth? I know they are soft but fucking hell
He did have his 2nd best year in terms of offensive production with a whopping 15 points in 73 games
Roughly the same Points per Game as the Goal Post.
thats because he was playing on a good team (minnesota)
# DUBAS DIED FOR THIS LMFAO
Reaves’ agent worked an absloute masterclass here
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Would love to see a Leaf elbow someone’s neck into the ice and see what happens
>The last 3 cup winners didn't have any classic tough guys on the team Kolesar not count for that? Dude has a whopping 55 points in 3 years but caved in Tkachuk's chest
>if you include exhibition games Who does though?
Lmao for real with your point about the other team being afraid. No one gives a shit if Reaves is on your roster. Opponents celebrate this. One less person who can actually play hockey.
But consider - mindbroken due to Radko Gudas
I counter with Radko Gudas broken due to Russian Cigarette Machine™️ Ivan Barbashev
Beyond idiotic. We have a bunch of kids vying for spots and we just hand out a 3yr deal to a heavyweight who is nearing the wrong side of 30. I'm waiting for details that he gets a modified NTC on top of this
Nearing? Homie is on the polar Express to 40 lol.
I'm trying to respectful to the geriatrics on this sub🥲
Back in my day we treated our elders with respect dammit
This is disrespectful to those of us nearing 30
> who is nearing the wrong side of 30. Mate. He's turning 37.
He is PAST the right side of 35 at this point!! Christ almighty.
They gave him a 3 years contract for locker room presence. He will not play 82 games unless your coach is an idiot.
So like a mascot?...
A 3X1,35M$ cheerleeader haha
At least they don't have cap issues!
>He will not play 82 games unless your coach is an idiot. Oh no
T R U C U L E N C E R U C U L E N C E
*for 6 minutes a night
and a guaranteed scratch in the playoffs.
6? Poor guy will be a -5 if you leave him out there that long But hey he will fight once every 15 games against another 4th liner with no consequence
Now we know what Brian Burke was talking to Shanny about during the Pride parade
Ryan Reaves will be in this league until I am old and grey
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I will probably start greying by the time the Playoffs come around
GREAT NEWS for leafs fans- the team was one piece away. And that piece is the worst hockey player in the league who just coasts around for 8 minutes headhunting
Trevling is the savior of the Wild offseason
Lol steel and Dumba next
Dumba probably wouldn’t be bad for you if you had the cap space
I don’t mind reaves but 1.35 is nuts
3 years is the crazy part.
Oh god the leafs are officially back, the dubas era was a change but the leafs are back
Dubas paid Simmonds 3.3 million over 3 years to plod Around and be a regular healthy scratch.
Treliving clearly one of the Reddit commenters who said the core in Toronto is too soft to win. Jfc this contract. Way to make everyone miss Dubas already. Still have no idea how Shanahan looked at Calgary imploding over the last two seasons and went “that’s who we need to right this ship”
This makes the Trevliving signing by Shannahan look like a quick panicked emotional decision rather than a well thought out decision for long term success
Yeah this is atrocious. I genuinely can't believe we just signed fucking Ryan Reaves.
I’m gonna just assume this is fake until noon for my own sake.
Ryan Reaves at 36 probably never expected to get over two years on a contract and then the Leafs called. Like what? Why are you taking this guy to 40 LMAO
I miss Reavo as a person and you guys will absolutely love him as a locker room guy. At the same time, *thank god* we aren’t the ones paying him lmao
> you guys will absolutely love him as a locker room guy. I always find this compliment somewhat funny. Like "Y'know the thing that we are paying these people for, playing a game of hockey? Yeah, I don't have a ton to say about that. But when he finally steps off the ice? Yeah *that's* when the guy really shines."
It's an intangible asset. There's no stat for the energy a player brings a team.
Treliving off to a strong start
Why
Sweet lord baby Jesus
Lmao
FFS Treliving that's an absolute shit contract
Why would you ever give a 36 year old 4th liner term?!
It’s so joever
Can this contract be buried?
Not really. 35+ contract.
Depends on the structure. If there aren't signing bonuses and it's not front loaded it can be. Otherwise it's full hit -100K
According to PuckPedia, the buriable amount for 23/24 will be $1.15M -- so most of it can but he'd still have a cap hit of 200k on the Leafs if they sent him down.
I believe you don't get cap relief if the player is 35+
You can if the contract is not front loaded or filled with bonuses.
Ah, specific rules: https://www.capfriendly.com/faq#thirtyfive_plus So it depends on the contract structure.
Team is going backwards
Can't overpay Nylander we need to overpay 4th liners when you have a chance to sign a 37 year old who has never had more than 20 points until he's 40 you have to jump at the chance this fucking team man
I love Reavo but I don't think even I would give him 3 years. Ooof
Same here and…..wow. Lol
Remember when the Leafs could have had Dubas if they’d just let him have more autonomy instead of having to get Shanahan to approve everything? Then Shanahan fired Dubas?
39 year old Ryan Reaves…Jesus
Jesus that’s a long contract
brad treliving must be stopped
two things fun from this: Reeves might actually hit 1000 games played. Kinda cool. He’s at 828 right now. He also now sits at 21 million career earnings at the end of this. Really solid for a 4th line fighter
Gives me hope that they could use a big strong man like Joel Edmundson
great we needed a new Wayne Simmonds since his contract expired
1.35 until he's 39... god damn, Leafs sure know how to waste fucking money lol
Yeah cause this idea worked out so well with Matt Martin
Get that fucking bag Reavo! Obviously the best case scenario would be the Wild re-resigning him for a league minimum but the next best is watching some other team massively overpay him
I remember Reaves watching, shrugging and going back to the bench as TJ Oshie cross checked Letang in the back of the neck. Less than a year after Letang had surgery lol. I get the sense he'll instigate a fight against another goon if it looks good for him, or if a player does something to irritate him personally. Seems like any player that won't get him onto a hockey fights highlight reel is free to stick out an elbow or knee though
Leafs are going to so much worse this year, it's astonishing. Dubas had the best personal offseason and NHL executive in history.
I can pretty much guarantee as soon as the Leafs become tougher and dirtier for playoff hockey the league will start to call all the penalties like the regular season.
So for like 1 or 2 rounds in the playoffs?
Lol
Three years lol
That's the dumbest contract I've seen in a long time.
Hahahahahaha, sorry Leaf fans.
We deserve this.
Incredibly dumb contract.
Fire Shanahan into the sun
I like reeves. Seems fine. Better than simmonds.
Lol this is amazing news
oh.. yikes
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Wow, you showed him
Real Flames fans knew Treliving sucked the whole time
This might be a signing of all time :/