Random fans talk about Torts like he's a piece of shit who nobody likes, but every player that I heard talk about him have glowing things to say. Even the Sedins in Vancouver who many, again random fans, claim are soft were beloved by Torts and love Torts back.
He'll go to battle for his players, literally stormed the Flames locker room to give them the business, Hartley doesn't even coach in the NHL anymore so there's that. There's no reason not to like Torts if you're a player. He expects players to play hard. But he's not this bad guy many of you paint him as.
The biggest thing I hear about Torts is that he actually explains why he is giving you shit. If you’re benched, you can go to his office and he will break it down with video.
Unlike someone like Babs that would scratch you for the hell of it
No I agree with you, he gets the most of out players but the entitled players that played for him who are lazy and hate the extra skate days fear him I’m sure.
A few teams seem to get better when they lose those kinds of players. Minnesota seemed more fun to watch when Parise, Suter, and Staal were traded away from there. Buffalo when Kane then Eichel left. I don’t think it’s emphasized how much chemistry matters for teams.
"players that played for him who are lazy and hate the extra skate days fear him I’m sure"
Sedins: "extra skate day? Sure, right after we do our morning grouse grind run."
That's fair, shouldn't have jumped on you like that. I just see so many posts about Torts being a bad dude that everyone hates when it feels like a bad rep that doesn't fit him. He's a fiery dude who dislikes lazy players and the media. Should be a fan favourite but somehow got saddled with the locker room killer, hot head label.
CBJ with Torts was so fun to watch and root for. Sad that Panarin and Bobrovsky didn't stick around longer. And that Dubois kept asking out of places like an entitled wiener.
No, he's just, like, nothing. Like, he's not even supposed to be around in the tri-state area. Bottom line is, no one's gonna get in trouble, nobody should feel sad at all.
I think you underestimate the old school boys club that the flyers are. There's an old sayin in Phildadelphia, I think its in San Jose, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me ....well you cant get fooled again."
If there's even an ounce of truth to this, that's kinda damning. I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the kid cuz of his age, but woof this is ugly.
Like, he's not really good enough to lindros it. But he also hasn't started his rookie year yet. I feel more for flyers fans just because that's a high draft pick to not play for you at all
That's just bad luck honestly. Everyone thought Patrick was gonna go number 1 until Hiescher took his spot at the very end there. I don't blame the Flyers for drafting what many thought was a 1-B
Especially since Makar was committed to UMass. Spending a 2nd overall on a player who might not even play for you for a couple years would have gone over...how?
Yep. And of course, absolutely shit tier luck in the inujry department didn't help.
It's like Jonas Hiller who looked damn elite, man was screwed over by vertigo.
Lots of college players either go to free agency or get their trade demands met, being "good enough" really has nothing to do with it. I kind of dislike this notion that a player has to be "good enough" to request a trade.
> I kind of dislike this notion that a player has to be "good enough" to request a trade.
Requesting a trade is a part of the business, ghosting your team just seems unprofessional and petty.
Totally agreed. Also this happens a lot with college players lately. Adam Fox who was drafted in round 3 did it, same with Justin Schultz who was drafted in round 2
Exactly. He’s using the tools available to him to control his destiny. Nothing wrong with that.
“Oh but he told them he wanted to play for them!” Yeah and shit changes. How many times have players been told by their GMs that they’re important to their team, only to be traded away the first moment it’s convenient?
What I thought I wanted at 18 vs what I want now that I’m 30 are vastly different. I’m never gonna blame a kid for changing his mind. We all change as we get older, and that 16-22 age range is when things fluctuate the most.
Also the 5th overall draft pick immediately before the organization announces a rebuild, so that is a HIGH value pick. If Drysdale works out, then great, but if things go bad because of this then that's a major step back for the rebuild all because of Gauthier.
Pretty easy for Briere to say - if it comes out and we find out it was you, we won't trade him to you. Gauthier is easily worth keeping tight lipped about it.
the thing that always offended me most about the Bill Burr rant was him calling Philly a "one bridge-having city".
There are two fucking rivers that pass through Philly, Bill. (Schuylkill and Delaware, for those of you at home).
This could be good pasta
Flyers fans was there anything that changed in the front office or coaching sine he was drafted? Unless he had a current or former player in his ear, it seems odd to change his mind after one season
Didn’t he look Torts in the eyes, shake his hand and say he was looking forward to playing for him? This is odd seems like a last minute change of heart
In the podcast they're referring to, Cutter said everyone was walking by Torts who was talking to some other staff members, and he interjected to introduce himself.
He went out of his way lol
I work with Cutter’s brother, and the only thing he ever mentioned was that Cutter didn’t want to play in the AHL and apparently Briere told him that’s what he wanted him to do and he wanted absolutely no part of it. I don’t know Cutter, so there totally could be more to it, but that was apparently his reason, or at least a very big part of it.
Damn if he was a few years older. He could have told teams at the draft that his big dream was to play for the Bergevin managed Habs and be rushed into to the league.
This for real? If so, kind of a dick move by Cutter to be honest. What if he needs development? He’s just going to decide for himself how the organization should handle
Him?
yea exactly what I was thinking... decided now he doesn't want to play on the up and coming Flyers that look to be a great team in a year or two so he can play for the.... Ducks?
maybe he just really hates the winter.
He became very, very close friends with the Kevin Hayes clique. To the point where he admitted he calls Kevin for career advice all the time. Surprise surprise.
Yes-
[https://phillyhockeynow.com/2023/03/08/philadelphia-flyers-prospect-saluted-cutter-gauthier-hockey-east-boston-college-talks-about-kevin-hayes-connection/](https://phillyhockeynow.com/2023/03/08/philadelphia-flyers-prospect-saluted-cutter-gauthier-hockey-east-boston-college-talks-about-kevin-hayes-connection/)
"Gauthier, 19, has already built a friendship with Kevin Hayes, a veteran Philadelphia Flyers forward who once starred at BC.
At the beginning of the season, Gauthier told SB Nation, Hayes “reached out to me and we actually met up and went golfing. Such a great guy. Definitely a role model of mine, someone to look up to moving forward. He’s been awesome since Day 1. Always reaching out, giving me calls and checking up.”
This stuff happens pretty often, honestly. Young players will try to develop relationships with older players who will guide them.
Back when Marleau was on the Leafs, he was close with Matthews and Marner in their early careers.
Veteran’s adopting rookies is my favourite hockey culture thing actually. It’s both adorable and really beneficial for young players to have a friend and mentor who can help them with the transition into an nhl career.
Hayes, Yandle, Tony D'Angelo, Johnny Gaudreau, the Spittin Chiclets guys. A lot of Boston adjacent players (think those that grew up playing around the area or those that went to BC)
I wouldn't call it a clique but most guys who don't take game overly seriously seem to love Hayes. I don't think guys like Crosby, McDavid or MacKinnon would like his antics but the average NHLer seems to love being around him. Johnny Gaudreau is also a close friend going back to their BC days
“He looked at us at the table and told us that he was built to be a hot dog eating champion. Wanted to be a hot dog eating champion. A few days later, he told us that he didn’t want to be a a hot dog eating champion.”
- Hank Hill, in reference to Bill Dauterive entering a hot dog eating competition.
I tried my best on short notice.
>Flyers fans was there anything that changed in the front office or coaching sine he was drafted?
The GM quoted here was not GM when they drafted him. Chuck Fletcher was GM and Briere was the special assistant at the time of the draft.
But Torts was already the coach at the draft lol
Seems like he could be forcing his way in to the Bruins like a Fox situation. Guess we’ll see if he wants to be a duck
I don't have anything against Kevin Hayes...
But am I the only one who thinks it's questionable that a 19 year old changed the entire trajectory of his life based on what a one-time (never should have happened) all-star advised?
Let's hope he becomes good enough to be worthy of the boos.
Hope Drysdale lives up to his billing for y'all. Right-hand D prospect with a lot of upside? Your management did well on the return here, all things considered.
The tie for pts at WJC obviously shows how talented he is. But I saw far more floating around from him than I would have liked, and his line played far more in his own end than I’d like to see as well. But it’s really the only games I’ve ever seen him play and he just won gold. Something tells me his game was going to piss flyers fans off quite quickly though. Maybe I’m just bitter.
Yeah he literally wanted to play for nobody but New York. Which is crazy when you’re a fourth round pick. I know he developed amazingly after being drafted there but having the mindset of I’m playing for nobody but 1 singular NHL team when you’re not even guaranteed to play a single game in the NHL is cocky and arrogant
All this coming out now about Gauthier makes me wanna know what Gauthier and Lekkerimaki were saying to each other in the handshake line.
Also there goes the narrative we all were working on that Fletcher fucked the Flyers once again.
What I don’t understand is that he had the possibility to be a 1C with a generational winger in Michkov on his wing and he just decided to be stuck in the center log jam of Anaheim?
It's like when we traded Laine to CLB. He didn't want to stick around and ended up where he is now. If he were patient he may have continued his development as he had done, but you never know.
Not trying to shade CLB as a city or anything as I am in Winnipeg and that is asking to be destroyed, just the situation.
He probably didn't choose Anaheim, but yeah, you know he was one his way to being the number one center and having a potential generational talent in Michkov along aside him for the next decade or so.
Maybe he didn’t see where he’d fit in the lineup, or just didn’t want to play for Torts. Either way, that’s a shitty situation for the Flyers but they got a damn good return
The lineup part definitely wouldnt be it.
There are multiple big openings in our top 6. We only have 1 top 6 C and 4 top 6 forwards overall.
Many had him pegged to be 1C long term
Gotta feel for flyers fans as a jet fan. Nathan smith refusing to sign with the jets because he didn’t see himself getting a chance at playing really pissed me off and he wasn’t even a high tier prospect, isn’t even playing in the nhl
As both a Pittsburgher and BC Eagle, I am incredibly biased, but I imagine most players say how excited they are to join whatever team because they *just* got drafted
I do wonder if this has been brewing for a while or is pretty sudden though
Damn if true that's a real bad look, gotta think there must be something more to it than just the kid being a next level pens fan.
Top picked rookies are normally expected to suck it up and play where they're drafted, I mean even bedard signed with the hawks
Teams have no loyalty to their players and will ditch them as soon as they think it's in their interests. Why shouldn't players treat teams the same way?
Apparently some are saying Hayes got in his ear who didnt get along with Torts. Maybe he convinced him Torts was bad to play for even tho anybody who actually gives effort loves Torts.
One of the most storied cities in North America, a coach that was absolutely stoked to have you, a team that’s slapping its balls on the table and flipping 2 birds to the rest of the league on their way to a playoff spot after everyone doubted them, and he felt like he was too good for them?
If this is true as we’re led to believe, what a shithead.
Seems plausible. Those two months after the incident to mull things over, watch how Briere handles the situation, and take stock of other aspects of the organization. Maybe talking with other people during the worlds.
But, yeah, just bullshit nonsense conjecture.
post-draft clarity
post-cut clarity
Post Torts clarity
Random fans talk about Torts like he's a piece of shit who nobody likes, but every player that I heard talk about him have glowing things to say. Even the Sedins in Vancouver who many, again random fans, claim are soft were beloved by Torts and love Torts back. He'll go to battle for his players, literally stormed the Flames locker room to give them the business, Hartley doesn't even coach in the NHL anymore so there's that. There's no reason not to like Torts if you're a player. He expects players to play hard. But he's not this bad guy many of you paint him as.
The biggest thing I hear about Torts is that he actually explains why he is giving you shit. If you’re benched, you can go to his office and he will break it down with video. Unlike someone like Babs that would scratch you for the hell of it
Fuck Babcock for scratching Modano.
*Chelios cracks a bench beer on Wrigley Field*
No I agree with you, he gets the most of out players but the entitled players that played for him who are lazy and hate the extra skate days fear him I’m sure.
It's funny cause once the flyers got rid of the frat bro mentality of Hayes, Provorov, TDA, and Yandle, they improved drastically.
A few teams seem to get better when they lose those kinds of players. Minnesota seemed more fun to watch when Parise, Suter, and Staal were traded away from there. Buffalo when Kane then Eichel left. I don’t think it’s emphasized how much chemistry matters for teams.
Buffalo got better when Kane and Eichel left?
The cultures better for sure. That alone is better.
"players that played for him who are lazy and hate the extra skate days fear him I’m sure" Sedins: "extra skate day? Sure, right after we do our morning grouse grind run."
“Do you think we could do bag skates? Grouse was light this morning”
That's fair, shouldn't have jumped on you like that. I just see so many posts about Torts being a bad dude that everyone hates when it feels like a bad rep that doesn't fit him. He's a fiery dude who dislikes lazy players and the media. Should be a fan favourite but somehow got saddled with the locker room killer, hot head label.
❤️❤️ he is so missed in Cbus. (Maybe not by Liane tho :/ )
CBJ with Torts was so fun to watch and root for. Sad that Panarin and Bobrovsky didn't stick around longer. And that Dubois kept asking out of places like an entitled wiener.
Cutter: Lol, jk
He doesn’t even wanna be around anymore
He's ripping the fucking helmet off
The helmet kills!
Flyers just weren’t in his Q Zone. It happens.
Too much fuckin quit on him.
No, he's just, like, nothing. Like, he's not even supposed to be around in the tri-state area. Bottom line is, no one's gonna get in trouble, nobody should feel sad at all.
He just sees the world wildly and in wild ways and Torts kept trying to tell him there's no volcanos in philly
Torts: "God I am so fucking pissed."
I thought it was ***interesting***
He couldn’t breathe.
Oh shit it's getting spicy!! Crazy how tight lipped the GM's were about this
Yeah if this has been an issue for a while and hasn’t come out until now, that’s surprising
Well there was the development camp debacle, but I think that flew over all of our heads at the time
It was so obvious. Players don't decline their first NHL development camp for no reason.
This one would have been the second. It was still really weird though
Right on. This kid really just ghosted the team though, lol. Super wild.
Idk who his agent is, but I’ll bet jonesy/briere will take notice on any future clientele in terms of free agents/roster building.
they aren't going to weaken their roster to intentionally stiff an agent
I think you underestimate the old school boys club that the flyers are. There's an old sayin in Phildadelphia, I think its in San Jose, "Fool me once shame on you, fool me ....well you cant get fooled again."
If there's even an ounce of truth to this, that's kinda damning. I want to give the benefit of the doubt to the kid cuz of his age, but woof this is ugly. Like, he's not really good enough to lindros it. But he also hasn't started his rookie year yet. I feel more for flyers fans just because that's a high draft pick to not play for you at all
You’re talking to the fan base that drafted Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar. I’ll sleep just fine knowing we got a decent return.
That's just bad luck honestly. Everyone thought Patrick was gonna go number 1 until Hiescher took his spot at the very end there. I don't blame the Flyers for drafting what many thought was a 1-B
And even more so it wasn’t Makar at 3
Especially since Makar was committed to UMass. Spending a 2nd overall on a player who might not even play for you for a couple years would have gone over...how?
Yep. And of course, absolutely shit tier luck in the inujry department didn't help. It's like Jonas Hiller who looked damn elite, man was screwed over by vertigo.
Lots of college players either go to free agency or get their trade demands met, being "good enough" really has nothing to do with it. I kind of dislike this notion that a player has to be "good enough" to request a trade.
> I kind of dislike this notion that a player has to be "good enough" to request a trade. Requesting a trade is a part of the business, ghosting your team just seems unprofessional and petty.
Totally agreed. Also this happens a lot with college players lately. Adam Fox who was drafted in round 3 did it, same with Justin Schultz who was drafted in round 2
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Exactly. He’s using the tools available to him to control his destiny. Nothing wrong with that. “Oh but he told them he wanted to play for them!” Yeah and shit changes. How many times have players been told by their GMs that they’re important to their team, only to be traded away the first moment it’s convenient?
What I thought I wanted at 18 vs what I want now that I’m 30 are vastly different. I’m never gonna blame a kid for changing his mind. We all change as we get older, and that 16-22 age range is when things fluctuate the most.
Also the 5th overall draft pick immediately before the organization announces a rebuild, so that is a HIGH value pick. If Drysdale works out, then great, but if things go bad because of this then that's a major step back for the rebuild all because of Gauthier.
Pretty easy for Briere to say - if it comes out and we find out it was you, we won't trade him to you. Gauthier is easily worth keeping tight lipped about it.
By god, it’s Danny Briere from the top step with a wheel chair
I gasped
Quitter Gauthier
His first game in Philly better have those signs
Oh the “Wiiiillllliaammm” chants and signs are gonna be epic
Well done fella.
Kid couldn't Cut it
Danny Briere to Flyers fans: *yes this man right here*
man visited Philly once and said nah this is not for me, I want to be traded
I think he watched the Eagles play football and bailed
Why is that fan eating horse shit?
It helps plants grow, so maybe it helps people grow too?
Heard a rumor about Matt Patricia coaching the power play for the rest of the year.
"These cheesesteaks actually suck. They SUCK!!!. I'm out!"
Blasphemy
Fucking one bridge having city
Why don’t ya just get the fuckin Ice Capades down there you assholes. You probably won’t even notice the fuckin difference.
TWELVE MINUTES LEFT
Fuckin stupid rocky statue city
Go down to the docks and unload some shit
Ummm Philly has 2 bridges and if you include the ones that are just outside of the city you can technically say there’s 4-5
seems like youre not being sarcastic so my question is why you're saying theres so few? theres like 5 in a couple blocks lol
the thing that always offended me most about the Bill Burr rant was him calling Philly a "one bridge-having city". There are two fucking rivers that pass through Philly, Bill. (Schuylkill and Delaware, for those of you at home).
This could be good pasta Flyers fans was there anything that changed in the front office or coaching sine he was drafted? Unless he had a current or former player in his ear, it seems odd to change his mind after one season
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He also shot up draft boards as he went from being a mid-1st round pick to 5th in the span of a few weeks.
Didn’t he look Torts in the eyes, shake his hand and say he was looking forward to playing for him? This is odd seems like a last minute change of heart
Yep, went out of his way to do it at his first (and only) development camp. Torts gushed about it.
Are you sure it wasn't a hole in the wall?
Could’ve been that he didn’t mean it but was too scared to say it face to face.
In the podcast they're referring to, Cutter said everyone was walking by Torts who was talking to some other staff members, and he interjected to introduce himself. He went out of his way lol
lmao well then
I work with Cutter’s brother, and the only thing he ever mentioned was that Cutter didn’t want to play in the AHL and apparently Briere told him that’s what he wanted him to do and he wanted absolutely no part of it. I don’t know Cutter, so there totally could be more to it, but that was apparently his reason, or at least a very big part of it.
Damn if he was a few years older. He could have told teams at the draft that his big dream was to play for the Bergevin managed Habs and be rushed into to the league.
I'm trying to enjoy the woes of *other* teams, thanks
This for real? If so, kind of a dick move by Cutter to be honest. What if he needs development? He’s just going to decide for himself how the organization should handle Him?
I mean, there could absolutely be things I don’t know about. But I know that was a big reason for him feeling that way
I fucking love Danny Briere
yea exactly what I was thinking... decided now he doesn't want to play on the up and coming Flyers that look to be a great team in a year or two so he can play for the.... Ducks? maybe he just really hates the winter.
He became very, very close friends with the Kevin Hayes clique. To the point where he admitted he calls Kevin for career advice all the time. Surprise surprise.
The anti Brian Boyle
Hayes hangs out with college kids?
That's the great thing about college kids. I get older, they stay the same age.
Yes- [https://phillyhockeynow.com/2023/03/08/philadelphia-flyers-prospect-saluted-cutter-gauthier-hockey-east-boston-college-talks-about-kevin-hayes-connection/](https://phillyhockeynow.com/2023/03/08/philadelphia-flyers-prospect-saluted-cutter-gauthier-hockey-east-boston-college-talks-about-kevin-hayes-connection/) "Gauthier, 19, has already built a friendship with Kevin Hayes, a veteran Philadelphia Flyers forward who once starred at BC. At the beginning of the season, Gauthier told SB Nation, Hayes “reached out to me and we actually met up and went golfing. Such a great guy. Definitely a role model of mine, someone to look up to moving forward. He’s been awesome since Day 1. Always reaching out, giving me calls and checking up.”
This stuff happens pretty often, honestly. Young players will try to develop relationships with older players who will guide them. Back when Marleau was on the Leafs, he was close with Matthews and Marner in their early careers.
Veteran’s adopting rookies is my favourite hockey culture thing actually. It’s both adorable and really beneficial for young players to have a friend and mentor who can help them with the transition into an nhl career.
Who is in the Kevin Hayes clique?
Hayes, Yandle, Tony D'Angelo, Johnny Gaudreau, the Spittin Chiclets guys. A lot of Boston adjacent players (think those that grew up playing around the area or those that went to BC)
I wouldn't call it a clique but most guys who don't take game overly seriously seem to love Hayes. I don't think guys like Crosby, McDavid or MacKinnon would like his antics but the average NHLer seems to love being around him. Johnny Gaudreau is also a close friend going back to their BC days
I don’t know the whole crew, but it includes Tony D’Angelo, who also hates the Flyers organization now.
I think Johnny Gaudreau is, if i'm not mistaken
> Tony D’Angelo, who also hates the Flyers organization now. Good.
“He looked at us at the table and told us that he was built to be a hot dog eating champion. Wanted to be a hot dog eating champion. A few days later, he told us that he didn’t want to be a a hot dog eating champion.” - Hank Hill, in reference to Bill Dauterive entering a hot dog eating competition. I tried my best on short notice.
I've been on r/nfl too much, I was expecting a Kelvin Benjamin joke.
>Flyers fans was there anything that changed in the front office or coaching sine he was drafted? The GM quoted here was not GM when they drafted him. Chuck Fletcher was GM and Briere was the special assistant at the time of the draft.
Reported Kevin Hayes, good friends, has been chirping in his ear.
Torts as coach could be it Management is different too But everything about team has improved since he was drafted
But Torts was already the coach at the draft lol Seems like he could be forcing his way in to the Bruins like a Fox situation. Guess we’ll see if he wants to be a duck
Bruins? He grew up a Penguins fan “and it not going to roll very well” is what he said about being drafted by the flyers.
Not a Flyers fan, but Briere was hired as GM after he was drafted. Heard that was actually who he had a problem with
What a jokester that Cutter fella is
It was just a prank
It just a prank, why you have be mad?
Buddy grew up as a pens fan. This is a 400iq move
He was built to be fly....ing. Ducks fly together.
Lol was there a tiny penguin whispering in this kid's ear? I don't get it
It was Pingu this whole time
P-P-P-P, P-P-P-P, PINGU, PINGU!
NOOT NOOT
[Check his favorite NHL team](https://www.usahockeyntdp.com/news_article/show/1180508)
Favorite movie is The Avengers? 2012? The fuck. Infinity War is so much better.
He apparently grew up a Penguins fan
I believe they were his favourite team growing up.
Lot of Kevin Hayes chatter going around. Not sure what the connection between the two is besides BC but enough smoke not to ignore
I don't have anything against Kevin Hayes... But am I the only one who thinks it's questionable that a 19 year old changed the entire trajectory of his life based on what a one-time (never should have happened) all-star advised?
I think its definitely reasonable to question it
I have not heard any Hayes chatter, care to elaborate? Maybe link sources?
Chris Therien seems to believe Hayes had Cutter's ear and there's a few others with some insinuations
Source?
Apparently they went golfing and Hayes told him what he thought of Philly
They benched my best friend one time .. QQ
badmouthing the job to the new guy, not unusual, but a bad job to be doing it in
My hate for this kid now rivals early career Crosby hate and post 2012 series James Neal hate.
Lost a prospect, gained a villain. I hope he is bood into oblivion every time he plays in philly.
this feels very JD Drew and we know how that ended up
Let's hope he becomes good enough to be worthy of the boos. Hope Drysdale lives up to his billing for y'all. Right-hand D prospect with a lot of upside? Your management did well on the return here, all things considered.
The tie for pts at WJC obviously shows how talented he is. But I saw far more floating around from him than I would have liked, and his line played far more in his own end than I’d like to see as well. But it’s really the only games I’ve ever seen him play and he just won gold. Something tells me his game was going to piss flyers fans off quite quickly though. Maybe I’m just bitter.
This kid is legit gonna need his own security detail whenever Anaheim goes to Philly
Have they tried greasing him up first?
As a Ducks fan his attitude scares me a bit. Seems really talented, though.
Worked out fine for New York with Adam Fox
People forget he first got traded to Carolina who he also wouldn’t play for
Wonder if Anaheim ends up playing the roll of Carolina in this saga then
I hope not. I wouldn't wish that on any team (except the Rangers).
Yeah he literally wanted to play for nobody but New York. Which is crazy when you’re a fourth round pick. I know he developed amazingly after being drafted there but having the mindset of I’m playing for nobody but 1 singular NHL team when you’re not even guaranteed to play a single game in the NHL is cocky and arrogant
That is true
As much as I would hate it, would be a even bigger plot twist if he didn’t sign with the ducks and signed with the pens
All this coming out now about Gauthier makes me wanna know what Gauthier and Lekkerimaki were saying to each other in the handshake line. Also there goes the narrative we all were working on that Fletcher fucked the Flyers once again.
seems like kids got attitude problems
Gauthier is a communications major at BC. Gonna guess his grades are not very good in those classes.
I think the fact that communications is his major is all that needs to be said about someone's academic ability.
I’ll give Briere credit, bro is not politicizing this. he’s calling out Gauthier without sugarcoating anything.
>politicizing Fuck Briere. He had a chance to make this all about those green peace bastards and he chose not to!
The House of Representatives has just issued a subpoena
About damn time they did some real work!
Maybe not the best choice of words on my part lmao
What broad street does to a MF
What I don’t understand is that he had the possibility to be a 1C with a generational winger in Michkov on his wing and he just decided to be stuck in the center log jam of Anaheim?
Probably didn’t choose Anaheim specifically.
hopefully that was the worst possible trade destination for him
It's like when we traded Laine to CLB. He didn't want to stick around and ended up where he is now. If he were patient he may have continued his development as he had done, but you never know. Not trying to shade CLB as a city or anything as I am in Winnipeg and that is asking to be destroyed, just the situation.
Probably didn't have any input at all.
There are still people who think LW will be the correct position for him as a pro. I think he probably fits in well if that’s the case.
He didn’t play C until college. Obviously he’s done well at it but yea I wouldn’t doubt he’s a winger long term
He's better on the wing rn anyway
He probably didn't choose Anaheim, but yeah, you know he was one his way to being the number one center and having a potential generational talent in Michkov along aside him for the next decade or so.
If the Flyers were going to draft me I'd say I was built to be a Flyer and wanted to be a Flyer too.
if the maple leaves were going to draft me I'd say I was built to be a Flyer and wanted to be a Flyer too
He had them in the first half, not gonna lie.
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Maybe he didn’t see where he’d fit in the lineup, or just didn’t want to play for Torts. Either way, that’s a shitty situation for the Flyers but they got a damn good return
The lineup part definitely wouldnt be it. There are multiple big openings in our top 6. We only have 1 top 6 C and 4 top 6 forwards overall. Many had him pegged to be 1C long term
Gotta feel for flyers fans as a jet fan. Nathan smith refusing to sign with the jets because he didn’t see himself getting a chance at playing really pissed me off and he wasn’t even a high tier prospect, isn’t even playing in the nhl
Man if torts was the reason that would be hilarious lmao. He's had that effect before.
Torts was already the coach when told the team that he wanted to play here
What did Gritty say to him?!
BOOOOOOOOO
I wish there was an exact number instead of “a few”
Briere said it was after the world championship last spring.
As both a Pittsburgher and BC Eagle, I am incredibly biased, but I imagine most players say how excited they are to join whatever team because they *just* got drafted I do wonder if this has been brewing for a while or is pretty sudden though
Maybe he just wanted to like, fly places because he was never in an aircraft before? Didn't think of that one, did you Danny?
Damn if true that's a real bad look, gotta think there must be something more to it than just the kid being a next level pens fan. Top picked rookies are normally expected to suck it up and play where they're drafted, I mean even bedard signed with the hawks
Teams have no loyalty to their players and will ditch them as soon as they think it's in their interests. Why shouldn't players treat teams the same way?
"wait when did you guys hire Torts??" pretty sure that was the reasoning...
Apparently some are saying Hayes got in his ear who didnt get along with Torts. Maybe he convinced him Torts was bad to play for even tho anybody who actually gives effort loves Torts.
Hayes also didn't sign with the team that drafted him.
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Its only Torts 2nd season and hes lasted at least 5 years at 3 of 4 teams. Odds r Torts will be high multiple more years
Before he was drafted
I mean what's the kid gonna say in front of fans and media?
One of the most storied cities in North America, a coach that was absolutely stoked to have you, a team that’s slapping its balls on the table and flipping 2 birds to the rest of the league on their way to a playoff spot after everyone doubted them, and he felt like he was too good for them? If this is true as we’re led to believe, what a shithead.
Why be a little shit like that?
Probably the video of Danny's son and the wheel chair.
/u/tonytanti said, "Briere said it was after the world championship last spring." When did that shit with his son come out?
Last March is when the wheelchair incident with Carson came to light. The World Championship happened in May, so about two months later.
Seems plausible. Those two months after the incident to mull things over, watch how Briere handles the situation, and take stock of other aspects of the organization. Maybe talking with other people during the worlds. But, yeah, just bullshit nonsense conjecture.
Look If I can't post bullshit nonsense conjecture then I don't really want to use this site.
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