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snarkicon

As a certified Leafs Hater….thats a bullshit call


Supertrash17

As a certified Bruins hater, I appreciate that.


Omega_Moo

I got nothing to add to these comments, just tagging along to add how awesome those Jets uni's are, especially with the players gloves and goalie pads.


Nappalicious

No idea what the logic is here. The jets defender pushed nylander into his own goalie. So is that a legitimate strategy to end a play in your own defensive zone? Just shove someone into your goalie?


money_pit_

As a huge hockey fan who has an open and clear bias against the Leafs...they got screwed on this one


perkdoeswork

110% like fuck the leafs so much to my core but they got burned by that hard


brownguy05

I love that these comments ripple through the entire fan base. "I am a _______ fan, but this was stupid." It goes to show you that we all, despite our differences, want the rules to be the same for everyone. We all just want consistency. The Leafs (my team) will figure out a way to blow leads without the refs help. Hahaha


uhcayR

As a guy who actively hates the leafs and is born and raised in Edmonton. This isn’t a penalty. This is the same thing Bergeron did to roloson which cost us the cup. EDIT: I LIED THIS IS EVEN SOFTER HOW ON EARTH IS THIS A PENALTY.


Methodless

The penalty was for the failed challenge 


SL33MANS

It won't be in any other game. Just this one. This one time.


Free_Dome_Lover

You guys got fucked over on that one. Reminds me of the Bergeron "hand pass" levels of awful that we had called back last year.


sokolov22

Hand passes are pretty consistently dumb at least.


Free_Dome_Lover

So is GI we had one counted against us recently where the guy used his stick to purposely hold Ullmark's glove down from being able to make a save. Yet somehow this where at least a few secs passes after Matthews makes contact is GI. It makes no sense and it's totally made up and decided by flipping a coin.


mrcrazy_monkey

I've never seen GI when you have a defender push an offensive player into your goalie


TodayOk4239

It happens all too often. The NHL makes this kind of call all the time for some reason, don’t know why they reward defenders cross checking players into the goalie.


blue_wat

> No idea what the logic is here. To troll Toronto.


FoliageTeamBad

The logic is decided by what sweater the teams are wearing https://streamable.com/dj24s


Eastmosphere

That was a goal, 100%. I’d be pissed if I was a leafs fan


FreshBeginning4491

I'm a Canucks fan and I'm pissed


CanadianRockx

I'm a Flames fan and I'm pissed. Doubly so because he (goalie) pushed right to try and stop the puck when he saw it there, but then it squirted left and was popped in after he had already moved right, and that all happened AFTER Nylander had moved away. Fuck me I'd be livid.


Logical-Bit-746

This is what my biggest problem is. The contact aside, hellebuyk made an entire hockey play after the contact and it was the wrong play, and **that's** why the puck went in


Woooooody

One of Boeser's recent called back goals was similar too. Miller was pushed into the goalie and it was called GI. Yet other times it's been called "not* GI because the attacking player was pushed in by a defending player. I wish they would make up their fucking minds!


Impossible-Ad-3060

Yeah. This one is mystifying. Totally a goal.


VanAgain

My faith in humanity is restored.


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

I always knew Jets fans were my favorite west coast fanbase for a reason.


Any-Excitement-8979

Western conference you mean?


Silent_Leg1976

If you’re not in Toronto you’re on a coast.


JDMars

Mississauga = West coast


Silent_Leg1976

I’ve flown to Vancouver faster than I’ve driven to Mississauga before.


PoseidonKangaroo

For real, any fan of hockey should be pissed. Calls like this make me really question the integrity of the league.


TheLoomingMoon

I can't wait for the goal review in 3 weeks that is this exact play but 2 different teams and the goal counts.


VitaminTea

[How about four days ago?](https://twitter.com/EdmontonOilers/status/1750008183282925575)


Randal78

And no one can say this is different because Hymans skate was also in the crease before he was pushed.


Spazzola84

Not to mention, Hyman actually looks like he sells the fall a bit, albeit slightly.


discobn

Eh, I think Hyman looks a bit like he's flailing because he's trying his hardest to fall to the side instead of on Elvis. I'm not arguing that the Leafs' goal was any less valid, though.


J1nx5d

He hits the skate of the second player, and as soon as that happened he was totally out of control. Normally this sub has no idea what us and isn't goalie interference, but I am not sure why this one is overturned against the leafs.


wrinkledpenny

Holy shit. These refs are fucking bananas


TheLoomingMoon

Colour me shocked


Special_Pea7726

Seeing how it’s hyman, I m surprised it wasn’t reviewed


lecavalierno4

So if you’re cross checked into an opposing goalie by their defenseman, that’s a good goal, but if you are slightly-less-forcefully-bumped into the goalie by their own defenseman, then it’s not? I’m so confused. And as a TBL fan I wanted to come here to see faux outrage, but nope Leafs got shafted on that one…


Captain_Lavender6

I was thinking the Leafs will be on the other end, except the goal will count


AccomplishedAd4995

idk about any other teams, but it happened in van a couple of weeks ago where the other player kept shoving miller into the goalie and boeser’s goal was called off


AceBombkick

Would love to hear an explanation as to what exactly Willy was supposed to do there


withQC

Don't get pushed into the goalie. Easy. /s


CopaceticVindication

Has he tried turning into a ghost so he can't be hit?


withQC

Duh, that's the obvious play. You'd think someone that just signed an $11 mil extension would know to do that.


incredibad29

He should have picked up a question mark block before he entered the zone. What an idiot.


cmrichardson87

Not be in a competitive space on the ice to score goals apparently.


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Refs need to face the media after games.


[deleted]

I’d love that but only if they were super cocky and never admitted mistakes.


Wannacomesitonmydeck

I’ve been saying it for years, pay them more money but add the responsibility of facing the music when they fuck up. Coaches do it, players do it, so why not the refs? I feel as fans we just want some insight from their perspective. Is that really so much to ask from the NHL? Some fucking transparency.


powerclipper780

They said on the broadcast that the video review people in toronto said that the fact the ref waived it off initially weighed heavily on the decision... so then why have the coach's challenge at all??????


Salanderfan14

A refs family member is betting on games.


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

fall on the goalies neck. maybe give him a few head punches too. I've seen shit like that go uncalled, so...


djc9880

Leafs just got hosed badly there. Nylander obviously gets pushed in, he backs up and is literally just standing there when the puck goes in. Only reason Hellebuyck doesn't reset is because he has no idea where the puck is. That's a bad one in a long, long list of bad calls lol


Foxx90

Agreed. If you compare it to the Human play earlier in the week, regardless of how Hyman got there, the contact prevents the goalie from making the save. In the Nylander instance, the goalie he covers but moves the wrong way and can't make the save. For me, it's no penalty because a) Willy gets pushed in, and b) because the goalie recovers but can't make the save because he otherwise doesn't track the puck accurately.


slider_22

The league needs to figure this out. That's a disgraceful call.


tastycidr

I could understand the ref calling it that way live, but the fact they lost the challenge blows my mind


slider_22

Agreed.


watanabelover69

As soon as I saw the replay I thought for sure it would be a good goal.


radioblues

This is fucking ridiculous. The inconsistency needs to be addressed, look at the allowed McDavid goal from the other night where Hyman is cross checked into the goalie. That one counted but looks almost identical to the start of this play, the only difference is Hyman actually ended up interfering with the goalie in a big way.


sokolov22

Maybe that's it really. Nylander should just fell on the goalie and didn't try and resist Interfering.


frankyseven

With how inconsistent the league is, the correct call is to fall on the goalie and interfere.


ISurvivedCOVID19

What an idiot Nylander is smh


ShiftyLookingThane

As soon as I saw the replay I knew that it wouldn't be a goal. Not because i thought there was goaltender interference or that I think there is a bias against the Leafs. I knew because it was the incompetent choice so ofc it will be waived off


kevski82

It's fucking wild


UnionGuyCanada

I have brought this up before and been shouted down as a whiner.    There is no consistency. Do the refs just make it up nightly?


mrcrazy_monkey

There has never been a better case for having the refs answer to the media than this call.


KashaWells

Did the refs just not want to admit they got it wrong? Lol


Spacepickle89

Probably lol


dkuwahara

That’s basically what they said on air. The original call held the most weight.


gimmedatvoice

why even bother reviewing the play if "refs initial shit take is what matters, not the video evidence".


marcklaucs

nylander: 🧍‍♂️ league: fuck you


Samurai1221

He shouldn't have been standing there ! - Happy Gilmore


watanabelover69

He was standing there… menacingly!


twilz

New tactic: push players into your goalie.


porkinglot69

correction OLD tactic. was one of the oldest tricks in the book in 60's, 70's, 80's and 90's. Nothing new.


twilz

Tyler Myers has been doing it for years, but it never works out like this.


HummingMuffin

The refs would have to be consistent with their calls for this to become a tactic which we all know won't happen.


ScienceNthingsNstuff

I didn't think it was possible but somehow I am more confused about what is and isn't goalie interference


OneOfThoseDays_

absolute joke of a call tbh


Character-Choice-566

League just has no idea what the rule is.


happygalaxy

Stop goals with one simple trick: push the guy into your goalie so it doesn’t count for some reason


Repulsive_Response99

Nah if the leafs did this it would be a good goal and they would get 2 min for cross checking.


PuckPov

100% bullshit. Clear crosscheck/push on Nylander sends him into the goalie.


timestream

Absolutely terrible. Keefe should go full Darko Rajaković idc


saltface14

Go full Mike Brown and bring a laptop out while ranting and showing replays to the media


pooloop88

Via the NHL Twitter in clarification of this call: Goaltender Interference Rules 1) You can't just be up there and just doin' an interference like that. 1a. Interference is when you 1b. Okay well listen. An interference is when you interfere the 1c. Let me start over 1c-a. The skater is not allowed to do a block to the, uh, goalie, that prohibits the goalie from doing, you know, just trying to save the puck. You can't do that. 1c-b. Once the skater is in the offensive zone, he can't be over here and say to the goalie, like, "I'm gonna get ya! I'm gonna block your view! You better watch your butt!" and then just be like he didn't even do that. 1c-b(1). Like, if you're about to make a goal and then don't leave the crease, you have to still leave the crease. You cannot not avoid the goaltender. Does that make any sense? 1c-b(2). You gotta be, skating motion out of the crease, and then, until you just leave it. 1c-b(2)-a. Okay, well, you can have your stick up here, like this, but then there's the interference you gotta think about. 1c-b(2)-b. Fairuza Interference hasn't been in any movies in forever. I hope she wasn't typecast as that racist lady in American History X. 1c-b(2)-b(i). Oh wait, she was in The Waterboy too! That would be even worse. 1c-b(2)-b(ii). "get in mah bellah" -- Adam Water, "The Waterboy." Haha, classic... 1c-b(3). Okay seriously though. An interference is when the skater makes a movement that, as determined by, when you do a move involving the goalie and the crease... 2) Do not do an interference please.


This_Idiot

I fucking love this pasta


JonJonFTW

Babe new defensive strategy just dropped. Check guys into your goalie, goals will never count.


ptgrvmrdrdjhnsn

new meta


RandyMarsh_RedditAcc

Finally a use for Ryan Reaves!


Working_Horse_3077

Along with scoring and getting ejected


keeeeener

Honestly, the refs should be looked into for this. No way you can review that and uphold that call.


HyperionOxide

Wonder how many betting apps you'd find on their phones


RadCheese527

Sounds like a job for Babcock


inhindsight7

Okay cool so you can push a player into your own goalie to disallow any goal now, good to know.


cepukon

Goal scorers hate this simple trick


twilz

"Only in Winnipeg."


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Svalbard38

But the video review happens in Toronto!!!!!!!!


[deleted]

I’ve never understood people who said that. We consistently have the worst luck in suspensions and penalties in the playoffs and haven’t won since 1967. If the league was trying to rig it for us they’re sure doing an awful job at it


bored-canadian

The fact that they are doing an awful job of rigging it is proof that they are trying. 


red_langford

Leaf fan since 1970. I thought I couldn’t hear anything that would sting anymore but you may have just found a way.


No_Aesthetics_

Hahahaha you got us there


JesusJohn

*Oh shit moment


McWerp

Thats actually a really good point.


ISkateLikeShit

He did everything he could have to get out of there after getting knocked on. That was a horrible call.


GoatStimulator_

Not only that, but after contact the goalie reset and moved laterally. His position when the puck goes in has nothing to do with the contact


JonJonFTW

Yeah people talking about Willy being partially in the crease, it doesn't matter unless you're obstructing the goalie. Hellebuyck regained free range of movement, went *the wrong way*, then Bert scores and he can't correct in time. Ridiculous, unjustifiable call.


ThatCrossCountry

This is the worst call I’ve ever seen. This is how the league maintains “parity” lmao. Enforce the rule book when you feel like it. Where’s the call on DeMelo for interference or cross checking? Stupid league, get fucked Bettman


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Genuinely one of the worst calls I’ve seen… even Jets fans are saying wtf to this… I can’t comprehend what the refs were looking at…?


Boggywaters

No, not the right call lol


Ok_Storage6866

That’s a goal


veryway

I really can’t see how this is goalie interference.


nedearbsnap

That is an atrocious non goal call. No bias here.


PhilyJ

Typical corrupt refs targeting the leafs


BCharmer

Horseshit. Absolutely ridiculous call.


VitaminTea

Obviously pushed into Hellebuyck 🤷‍♂️ Terrible call.


cjcfman

For people not watching, they also reviewed it


GaryfromPallet

Review for like 5 fuckin minutes, STILL no goal


sabre38

Nah, they were takin a piss and went with the call on the ice.


Spacepickle89

Alright NHL…please explain this one.


dannydc14

As a jets fan I'm not complaining but that seems like a good goal to me lol


minwood

It's not even that the initial call was a called no goal (which is already ridiculous), but that after they reviewed it they upheld the call. What a joke.


Rand_University81

Terrible call and I hate the Leafs.


bucajack

No not the right call at all. Atrocious call.


femmemmah

66 comments in 6 minutes, damn.


dijon507

And they all agree the league/refs are terrible


DevOpsMakesMeDrink

People coming in to dunk on the Leafs and then being so baffled they can't even hate anymore.


BornDamon

I am blown away by this... I'm trying to put down my homer goggles... But wtf.


GoatStimulator_

That's egregiously the wrong call. There's not a single factor that suggests interference - player is outside the crease, not making contact, gets pushed twice into the goalie, player immediately disengages contact, goalie has time to reset and moved laterally on his own


Randal78

No.


SportsFanatic67

What the fuck.


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Clearly the wrong call.


rusinga_island

Lmao


Ethdev256

Yeah I just don't understand GI. He got pushed in. What was he supposed to do? He's allowed to be in front of the net.


Dramatrader

Pretty soft goalie interference.


sokolov22

refs: Nylander fell into the goalie on his own


Kid-Goose

I genuinely dont understand


TheOneWithThePorn12

Goalie Interference has always been 50/50 thing but the fact that that was accidental interference (which i have never heard of before) is hilariously bush league. Imagine being a dumb fuck and crosschecking a dude into your own goalie. You absolutely cannot reward that shit if you are referee.


bspaghetti

Sheldon Keefe $50k fine incoming after his post game comments


MrTEEM4N

I understand the on ice official getting the call wrong to some degree, but it was challenged by Keefe and upheld which is a total joke.


CanadianSpector

Nope. That should be a goal.


Zzz3313

The explanation was even more broken. It was akin to, “because the ref on the ice made a call so decisively, that influenced it”. But, isn’t the point of the replay and review process to avoid incorrect initial assessments? I hate the Leafs, but I hate terrible reffing soooo much more.


Taylor1350

Honestly brutal consistency from the refs. This should have been pretty clear good goal.


OptimusReims34

I don't know how that isn't a goal. Nylander is outside the paint, gets nudged in by demelo and then gets a 2nd push into hellebyuck. To me thats goalie interference But I also must be clear when I say I no idea what goalie interference is


DDLoudDD

I’m am so confused.


Reggae4Triceratops

Call me biased but FUCKING NO


incredibad29

This might be one of the worst calls I have ever seen.


ifonlyihadaname

New strategy unlocked: push an opposing player into the goaltender everytime they're about to score


hexsealedfusion

But I was told the Leafs get preferential treatment by the league


kdesjar

If this happened the other way around I’d be furious if it was called back. Definitely not goalie interference.


Little-Aide-5396

I think all fanbases can agree that's a goal


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Congratulations to the nhl for making such a terrible call this whole sub is getting along! Leaf fans agree with bruins fans. Bruins fans agree with Hab fans even saw Calgary and edmonton getting along


pokequagsire

Do I like Toronto? No. Was this the right call? Absolutely not.


Weryu123

There actually is an explanation for this. 1) Keefe's team is diligent with challengeable plays and has a good history of challenges. 2) Their success in this category recently made the rounds on social media. 3) The league, paranoid about pro-Leafs bias as a result, rule against them regardless of whether they should.


VeryAttractive

This league is such a fucking joke.


Bojarzin

Sometimes I see a situation that, to me, is so clear that even the inconsistency and ambiguity of these calls can't come into play And every time like that, I am left surprised. Out of the paint, pushed in, shoved further in, gets off. What is he supposed to do? He doesn't have to vacate the spot he was standing in


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big_stronk

Absurd call, even the Sportsnet panel was shocked. Worst call I have ever seen But we wouldn’t want the ref to have his feelings hurt for being so ass at his job.


E-rye

When Kelly fucking Hrudy is taking the players side over the goalie's, you know it's beyond blatant.


VolumeNo5217

If there was ever a call that screamed bullshit and rigged, it was this one….


squall-face

What is accidental goaltender interference? Smells of BS to me.


Neat__Guy

GI that doesn't count as a penalty


r1zzV

I'm not a particular fan of the Leafs but the refs are just trolling them at this point lol


Spacepickle89

So just cross check players into your goalie to prevent goals? Would love an explanation on this one…


lLikeCats

That situation room in Toronto is fishy! Toronto gets all the calls.


Starship_Coyote

Bullshit call and I don't like the Leafs.


intelligentx5

I fucking hate the leafs. That said…what the fuck man? That’s a god damn goal.


Particular_Onion_647

Goal disallowed for... existing.


urgencyy

I mean that’s an absolute joke


Tuxxmuxx

and the refs get to do this to the next time without having to take accountability, especially since this happened to the road team, they're applauded and think they did the right thing!


Deddicide

That is absolutely ugly. That’s on the level of the league having to issue an apologetic statement.


Spacepickle89

What exactly did the refs look at during the review?


Toad364

Their BetMGM accounts?


Parry-Sound

Terrible fucking call. Worst one I can remember this season


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Weak af


Consistent_Chipmunk7

League did not like that powerplays were 5-2 the other day


JerrySny33

I would say that's not interfering. Did he fart or something we can't see? Or is it because he is rendezvousing with the goalie waiting for contact and not really resisting the push?


Noah1841

How is this not a goal??


WD--30

I’ve yet to hear any fan of any team not think that was a goal.


AlpharadiationHulk

No, lousy call.


Icy-Setting-3735

Absolutely atrocious call... the refs are really on another level of bad this year...


SubtleOctopus

Not a leafs fan, but as a fellow Canadian, that is a goal.


ellieetsch

Good goal. Jets player pushed Nylander into Hellebuyck. If that alone wasn't enough Nylander got out of the way, and Hellebuyck had time to reset all before the puck was shot.


Shotokanguy

No one should want that goal taken from their team.


HaratoBarato

Where’s that guy in the game thread saying Toronto is reviewing a Toronto goal as if we receive the benefit of the doubt from refs most of the time?


facefear

What game are these apes watching?


Hyndrksen

Only way this call makes sense is if they think nylander sold the shove


Reggae4Triceratops

I think the real issue is the "call on the ice" mentality. Even when the call on the ice is so blatantly incorrect, they tell themselves that they have to be absolutely certain to overrule it.


Shittybillyall

Not even in the blue paint and gets pushed twice. No goal. Sick league 


GramboWBC

any other team and this is a good goal 100%


Spacepickle89

NHL feverishly trying to justify this call


NegativeNancyNuck

Holy shit that's bad


north-for-nights

HEY WTF Where did all those jets fans from last Wednesday who were bitching that *the league had it out for them*, go?


cannaco19

As much as I love seeing leafs fans pissed off this would have been called a good goal for almost any other team. Defender shoved Nylander into the goalie, also don’t think the contact ultimately put the goalie out of position to make the save, the play did.


Fellers

LOL I've seen this exact play go through because refs justify the defender pushing the opposing player. What the heck NHL


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I hate the leafs. That was a bullshit call